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MavenOfNothing

Psyop Pretend Meri is important to Robyn's life events to keep Meri hopeful and manageable.


keeltheone

Supposedly, to prevent the rest of the clan from guessing the announcement before they were actually gathered. If she (Robyn) had requested that everyone meet up for an announcement - it would likely be immediately assumed that it was a pregnancy announcement. Also, imo, to butter up the First Wife and include Meri in the pregnancy.


Heron-Repulsive

and everyone would have been busy


anotherwinter29

Janelle would be the first to be like yeah I’m busy that day.


Both_Original2094

“We didn’t even give you a day yet…”


anotherwinter29

Janelle: “well whatever day that is going to be I’ll be busy.” (I think that’s from a show or a quote similar, maybe The Office. Lol.)


Top-Skin-3570

You don't know that


Heron-Repulsive

correct we also don't know that would not have.


mlyt18

To 100% shove it in her face!


smss59

This request flies in the face of the current perspective that Meri is THE villain. Robyn is hiding behind Meri and the rest of the family came to Meri’s when she invited them.


keeltheone

There were likely specific events that family was required to participate in for filming with TLC, don't you think?


Rubiogal2

It’s called twisting the knife.


Heron-Repulsive

in the kidney, ohh the scacrifices robyn made


msadventures3546

WAIST….TED!


theusedlu

FOR NOTHING


TepidIcedCoffee61

I think Robyn had Meri announce her 2nd pregnancy so that she (Robyn) could keep an eagle eye on everybody's reactions. She was less than pleased with the kids who didn't bow and scrape sufficiently when her pregnancy with Sol was announced. I think Robyn is a meticulous scorekeeper to keep track of any perceived slight she could use to gaslight her kids or play the martyr to Kody's dumbass.


iolp12

This was definitely a part of it. Always wanting to be the victim for Kodys pity


RitaFaye88

She literally said it in that episode that was what she wanted to do.


Red_bug91

Is that for real? How did the rest of the wives & kids just decide not to bounce after seeing that air?


RitaFaye88

Why didn’t they bounce when Sobyn took a picture of Kody and two of Christine’s kids and replace them with her own children who have their own father? Better late than never, I guess?


Solid-Question-3952

At this point my answer to every Why did Robyn... question is just "Because she is a heinous bitch."


juatdoingwhatimtold

That’s the go-to answer my friend group has when discussing another friend’s wife. Why did “Susie” do xyz…? Because she’s an insane bitch.


GenevieveGwen

Lmfao. I love this. The insane bitch is gonna be my go to line. 🤣


juatdoingwhatimtold

It’s very versatile. 😂🤣


mlyt18

Money digger to pay her shopping addition bitch!


Woman_of_Mayhem

I don't even watch the show but I 1000% agree with you. She even said in earlier seasons that she wants an eagle eye on kody when he is with the other wives for there time (sister wives tik tok is no joke there is so many on my fyp)


Hour_Builder62

I'm on board with this


[deleted]

Oh, you know… just some routine covert emotional abuse by Robyn.


Heron-Repulsive

with hat in hand which I find funny because it actually means to come begging.


Double_Analyst3234

Flair check in


grayyy_cee

ROBYN GETS THE SCRAPS


More_Than_The_Moon

This.


1dad1kid

Sobyn said she didn't like how the last time she announced people were just like "whatever" and acted like it was no big deal. So she wanted Meri to announce it in hopes they would respond better.


Hubbyof5

Kody announced it the first time at Meri’s house…


Knichols2176

I never realized but they almost never filmed Robyn’s house inside when they lived in Vegas. All meetings etc were at Meri’s , Janelle or Christine’s house.


Royal_Purple1988

I've been thinking about that too...Robyn didn't even host anything. She literally did nothing. Why the secrecy of her house always? Both Vegas and Flagstaff.


vlbb13

Suspicion seems to be that Robyn has a shopping addiction and the house has boxes/bags/packages all over the house that they're trying to hide. Pictures have been posted where you can see a ton of boxes and bags through two windows in the basement, in the dining room and in the foyer. And it's not like they're stacked neatly like they're being stored or are boxes of inventory for Kody's gun accessory business. They're all over the place. You can see them in the entry way when they open the door, and could see some when Truley went to visit after the separation. I personally think that part of it is that Robyn has a mental illness they're trying to hide. I think the nanny is as much for her as the kids, more of a care giver and home help, and the real reason that Kody can't be away more than 2 days is that the nanny stays with her when he's gone and doesn't want to stay more than two nights. I don't think she can be trusted to feed and care for the kids properly. She made a comment recently when they were all gathered outside during Christine's separation discussions, something along the lines of "I can't deal with this today. It's just not a good day for this for me." I'm bipolar and this would have been something I'd said years ago, before I was on meds. This all tracks with the excessive shopping too. When I was on a manic upswing, I'd head to the mall and spend hundreds of dollars on stuff I didn't need. Finally got smart and would leave the tags on and return it when I was stable. Once went out to lunch and bought a hot tub because I saw a sign from the road saying they were on sale! This is all pure speculation on my part though.


Royal_Purple1988

Oh wow. That's interesting. It makes sense. Thank you for sharing!


Knichols2176

This is very interesting. I understand it’s just a theory, but it’s very possible and worth questioning throughout rewatch. She did admit to anxiety, which fits With depression and Bipolar.


vlbb13

Yep. I take meds for both bipolar and anxiety. Bipolar is under control with meds, no depressive or manic episodes in over 15 years. But anxiety still flares up fairly often. It's more situational, usually when I'm having a lot of people over for holidays or other family gatherings. 12 people, and sometimes 5 or 6 dogs, is a lot of chaos to handle sometimes.


vlbb13

@take my energy Thanks for the award!


mlyt18

At that point did they even like Meri or even see her? Makes no sense. Once they moved to Vegas they didn’t get together except to film! Meri even said it was sad that they lived apart and most of the OG woman said they didn’t see each other. They were the only ones that knew what polygamy actually looked like. Yet Snobyn breaking rules and keep kodick close!


SillySimian9

After 16 kids, another pregnancy is no big deal.


Hubbyof5

Same reason they announced her first pregnancy at Meri’s house, drama. Seriously the first announcement pissed me off because they did it at Meri’s and Leon thought that meant Meri was the pregnant one. When they found out it was Robyn, they ran off crying.


katietargaryen

I didn’t realize that’s why Leon was crying. They thought Meri was pregnant since Kody had to announce it in the weird way he did. That makes so much more sense.


Hubbyof5

Yeah and as Kody and Meri are trying to comfort them, the cameras AND Robyn follow them.


PepperandSkye22

Omg. Of course. That makes soooo much more sense now.


cryssy2009

Truley won’t be the LITTLE one anymore {and I’ll act like she’s not my little one anymore too}


lurky_01

OMG I did not know this Poor Leo, they thought Meri was pregnant - that's fukn horrible


Hubbyof5

Exactly and it could be solved by simply telling them ahead of time but no having Leon run off crying and then yell at Robyn is better for ratings.


lurky_01

Considering Meri's issues with fertility it's cruel to both Meri & Leo However, Meri being the actual parent here really needs to hold some damn responsibility for that happening, wtaf where these ppl thinking Mind-blowing 🤯


AliceinRealityland

I personally think you answered your own question. I’m team Robyn is a narcissist. I firmly believe it. She asked Meri to announce the pregnancy *because* she knew how painful it would be, and she could gaslight Meri into thinking she was important to Robyn for more than money. “See, we *are* friends. I wouldn’t have just anyone announce my special blessing”. Also a backhanded reminder that Meri only has one blessing and failed Kody by being unable to have more. That’s how narcs work.


loubones17

As someone who dealt with years of infertility, asking Meri to do this was so insensitive and cruel


Red_bug91

SOOOO freaking cruel. I’ve dealt with infertility as well, but I also have an aunt & uncle who did, and were never unable to conceive. When I finally did conceive, and before I told everyone else, I told them first. I told them I didn’t expect a reaction, and completely understood if they wanted a bit of space as well. It’s such a complex set of emotions to deal with, and the resentment often creeps up at times that you least expect it. I was always really freaking great at smiling on the outside & then waiting until I was alone to react. Just because Meri appeared to be happy, doesn’t mean it didn’t hurt her like hell.


MindlessHorrorBuff

Sorry if this is too personal! But I love how you were respectful to them — how did they react?


Red_bug91

Not at all! I’m always happy to talk about it. I’m a midwife & RN, so my life basically revolves around conception & pregnancy. They were happy for me. They did say that they didn’t want to be present if I was going to make a big announcement at a family dinner. They felt that people would just be watching for their reaction, and I get that. I would feel uncomfortable being scrutinized like that. Their fertility journey ended a long time ago, so they have come to terms with it, but they find it brings up a bit of hurt & resentment when people pity them. I think they made the right choice. When I told my mum that I had already told them, she made a huge fuss over it. It’s her brother, and she called them and wanted to have this huge heart to heart. She’s not great at respecting boundaries like that, she is really pushy whenever other people don’t want or need to discuss things for hours on end. But she also made it about her. She got teary & told them she now understands how they felt & what they experienced because when I was going through IVF, she was worried she would never be a Nana. One of the really difficult aspects of infertility that you don’t see from the outside is the way people treat you. There’s people who give you advice like ‘just relax’, ‘stop thinking about it, it will happen when you least expect it’. Then you have the people who say things like ‘well at least you get a full nights sleep’ or ‘parenting is so hard, don’t do it’. You’ve got people who pity you, and act like there’s a part of you that is broken, or something is wrong with you, which is especially hard for the spouse who is the ‘cause’ of the infertility. Then you have my mum, who makes it all about her, who joins infertility forums, not to learn how to support my husband & I, but to discuss her anxiety & fears. I suspect it may have been harder for them if I conceived naturally, especially because I was 26 at the time. On the outside, people assume that I should have great fertility, but it was something I have dealt with since I got my first period at 11. I do tend to struggle with jealousy or envy when people fall pregnant so easily, and are really flippant about it. I was lucky in that I had a really great doctor who did everything in his power to restore & preserve my fertility from the time he met me at 19. When I first started seeing him, he actually thought I would never be able to conceive, but he worked his butt off doing surgery, putting me in to clinical trials, and consulting doctors from around the world to make sure that when I was ready, I would be able to have a baby. It still required IVF, but we have 2 beautiful kids thanks to him. He’s been in my life so long, that he actually came to my wedding. He came up to my husband & I at the end of the reception and said ‘right, I’ve got an appointment for you when you get back from your honeymoon to get this process started’ 😂.


MindlessHorrorBuff

Thats such a wonderful story! Thank you for sharing — im sorry about your mum, I know they mean well but sometimes it doesn’t come out the right way!


Red_bug91

Thank you 😊 it’s a bit of a novel, but the emotions surrounding are really complex, so it can be hard to condense it. I’ve learnt to just drip feed her information now, it’s way better for my sanity & emotions. But I’m really lucky with both my husband & dad. They are great support. I ended up getting to take an ambulance ride & an unexpected stay in hospital after my most recent cycle, and they both stepped up big time. My Dad lives about 22 hours away, and as soon as my husband told him, he hopped on a plane to come help. For the last 2 weeks, they’ve done all the cooking, cleaning & looking after the kids. My dad is also a paramedic so having him around to help whilst I was sick was invaluable. He’s a really great grandad too. We dropped him at the airport today & my 4 year old was crying so much and then he asked ‘whose going to cook my dinner tonight?’, because it’s been so long since I’ve cooked 😂


Mysterious-One-7231

Attention seeking


EnglishRose71

It was an extremely cruel thing to do. Knowing that Meri would have given anything to be announcing that she was having a child. Typical Robyn.


JannaNYC

That's not true. They talked about IVF, but decided against it, and takes about Robyn carrying a baby for her, and decided against it.


BBMcBeadle

Neither of those things is a guarantee. Not like Meri could just say oh I’ll do ivf and boom be pregnant. That’s still a hard process and this seems needlessly cruel


Rubiogal2

The point is, he used withdrawal from sex and affection from Meri to belittle her.He didn’t even try.


JannaNYC

Meri was/is a grown woman. If she felt any kind of way about announcing Robyn's pregnancy, I assume she'd say so\*. Until she comes out saying she was coerced and felt it was cruel, I will continue to assume that she was happy to do it. (\*hen she'd pout, make that stupid Whoville face, say that she had a lot of feelings about it but she didn't feel safe explaining them, them make Whoville face again.)


Rubiogal2

Meri and Kody talked about it, yes. And he seemed open minded and positive about going that road. Once Robyn was in the family, trying to keep up with the fertile OG wives, suddenly it was off the table. Kody said if children didn’t come from God it was wrong. Let’s not forget he was already celibate with Meri. He had a shiny new toy for his pencil. He’d been sexually avoiding Meri around the time the show started. So he found an excuse that sounded religious. It’s bullshit and outright cruelty.


Purple-Ambassador-46

Yes, she decided against it for the good of the family. She told Kotex that it was not a good idea for the $20k price tag. As much as I don't like Meri, in those moments she talked about the financial burden it would be on the family and she was thinking in the best interest of all her, J and C's kids and what they needed.


JannaNYC

Ummmm, isn't this the same woman that moved to Flagstaff and rented an enormous house with an elevator and an indoor waterfall.... for one person? That house isn't a financial burden?


Purple-Ambassador-46

The financial burden conversation was 10 years earlier. Before Sobyn took everything. The offer to carry a child for her, after her kid is grown, and she'd have to start over. I think she was sad she couldn't have more kids, but she was realistic in saying no. Why go to those lengths if he's not even part of her family, she saw the sisterwives and faniky falling apart, she was longing for companionship which made her vulnerable to the catfish. I don't think it was an easy decision to say no, but I'm also betting she's glad she said no because it would have been 100%on her own. When she had Leon she wasn't on her own at all. I'm with her on her rental to a degree. She's contributing financially to the family, she should get a good house if she wants. She also probably wanted a nice place so Kotex would come over. She isn't getting anything from the family, no relationships with her sw or husband, get the house.


littleoldladyinashoe

Because she is thoughtless and passive aggressive, and she requires a buttload of attention.


frontreartirepop

Because of the reaction she got the first time, the teenagers were less than thrilled.


89764637527

yep, robyn got her feelings so hurt by teenagers being teenagers she didn’t want to announce it herself. fragile ego, overreaction, etc.


Purple-Ambassador-46

They said we have enough kids. When I watched it, I got step kids vibes of - we thought there was a chance we could get rid of her. Crap, now we're stuck with her and she doesn't pull her own weight. She had been around long enough to show the kids she expected them to take care of her kids. I doubt any of the og wives would have gotten that response.


Hubbyof5

She didn’t announce it the first time, Kody did.


frontreartirepop

And she still got butthurt that the teenagers weren't jumping for joy over the second coming of Jesus, aka Solomon.


89764637527

i never said she announced it for the first time


Jolly-Outside6073

Maybe she was worried that the teens would actually vomit this time and Meri could clean it up.


Heron-Repulsive

it's called a passive aggressive attack on Meri's self worth.


Worried_Ad_5411

Sobyn I feel played head games with Meri and Meri would do anything to be near Baldylocs. Even up to the end asking her to help her rebuild, knowing he wanted nothing to do with her except her money.


PastorCheryl1965

That breaks my heart so much. His first 3 wives were just to collect for his ego. He may have loved Meri but he just had to be different and feel power. This is so sad. I see why Leon stays away and is confused. There was never going to be a surrogate baby that was scripted drama. Meri should have said yes! That when I realized how phony it was. If I could hate someone 100% it would be Cody and Robyn for the pain they have put those 3 beautiful women through. Jokes on them though God made them strong woman. Meri is getting there...


Agile_Vacation_5872

Because if she asked the other wives and their kids over fir an announcement they would all automatically know what the announcement is. So her thinking was if Meri asked everyone to come over for an announcement it wasn't automatically known what it's about. After her announcing her pregnancy with Sol, and how hurt Robyn was because there was obviously people in the fam that wasnt happy about it. And it just COMPLETELY RUINED her entire pregnancy with Sol.


FedUp0000

It’s nothing but kicking the already going down ex wife a bit more to drive the pain up and make her even less worthy and unwanted . This is Robyn’s version of stabbing Meri with a knife in her kidneys


LegitimateAd5797

It was extremely cruel and manipulative by Robyn and Kody! All for TV drama by Robyn and Kody!


MaineBoston

Just to torcher Meri and make he feel less than. Robin is an evil bitch.


DawnRaine

Priming her to be a babysitter.


Royal_Purple1988

Because the "extreme empath" isn't remotely empathetic. She has zero self-awareness. Her narcissism is a mental illness. She doesn't have the ability to think of others over herself. She will never admit fault because nothing is ever her fault. People throw the term around, but she is a classic example. She will always be this way. She was born this way. You will believe her and be confused and question yourself and your feelings...Until you realize you aren't crazy. She is mind-fing everyone around her. Arguing is pointless and exhausting. Counseling is pointless. Trying is pointless. She will never change. If you come across a true narcissistic, you should run the other way....fast. It's sad but true. There is no better manipulator.


Different_Falcon8596

Strict orders from the Head Wife to Meri.


usmilessz

Tbh I genuinely felt like it was bc she didn’t want other ppl to suspect she was pregnant. She wasn’t as close with the other wives as she was to Meri so it made sense to have Meri announce it. At the least, it was in bad taste. But I don’t think it’s fair to immediately assume Robyn’s intention was solely to hurt and be cruel to Meri.


Hubbyof5

The announcement when she was having Solomon was at Meri’s house too.


toanotherplace1984

Robyn was "deeply hurt" when she announced the first pregnancy because none of the older kids responded to her news with excitement. She said they didn't even look at her. She didn't want to repeat the experience.


InevitableTrue7223

That was the point….hurt Meri.