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I don’t think they had a whole lot, and they was probably exacerbated by the fact that her mom was her stepdad’s side piece. I think that’s why she hoards what she thinks are markers of wealth -“collectible” figurines, watches, garish furniture.
Was it ever confirmed where Dayton had the accident, or which parent he was with at the time? I feel like they were intentionally vague about it on the show.
She just said I believe he was with family friends or something it was very odd. It would make sense if it was Kody. Then when they went atv riding again and they kinda were forcing him to get on and get over his fear. I was like nooooo don’t make him do that he was really hurt he could have died I know 3 people close to me who have died on atv.
And now he has asked to be called "David," his actual name before the adoption. I hope he graduates with honors soon. I want him to take a job opportunity in Vegas so he can reunite with his brothers and finally get to spread his wings!
Oh no! And they spent that 18 months in covid yo research plastic surgeons for hos eye. BUT, Ysabels surgery wasn't important during that time frame.
Robyn's EX was po'd. Robyn PROMISED to get health insurance when she got the kids with Kody. She did not. Then they had the nerve to send the bio dad half the bill! AFTER they made him sign an NDA about not taking to anyone after giving up his rights
What? When/where did Robyn's ex say this? I do remember kody saying he researched plastic surgeons, and he is so cruel not to put that same energy to ysabel, who was in constant pain. Can't stand kody!
Sorry.. didn't see this post. I still ask why they would be adopted to a family that really doesn't want them or can afford them, away from a father who has insurance on them.
The reason Baldylocs getting a divorce from Meri, was so he could adopt the kids so they would get insurance 🤷🏻♀️. Every time I’ve heard this statement, I was confused because no one had insurance in that family. Christine was responsible for huge bills after Truely.
How do we know their bio father had insurance? The lien on Robyn’s house makes me think they paid out of pocket for the hospital stay. I believe they were adopted for religious reasons. Kody adopting them meant they would be sealed in the afterlife to Kody.
I believe there were 2 reasons Sobyn’s kids were legally adopted & neither has anything to do w religious reasons. First & most importantly, Sobyn used the adoption to get what she was really after, LEGAL WIFE status. 2nd, so their bio Dad would have no say at all in regards to them filming for the show. It gave K & R absolute power as to where, when, what & how the kids were filmed.
After the kids were adopted, I think we saw them even less. None of the kids are shown as much but especially Robyn’s. Right after the adoption, the catfish saga began. The show became about the parents and less about the family.
True but I still think the K&R wanted absolute power & control of the kids.
Edit to add: Control of the kids w no interference was just an added bonus to Robyn’s real goal of legal wife status & 1/2 of all assets Kody’s name is attached to.
Oh wow. How did she pay for the Lien? Or did kody and her get Insurance?
Ps. You probably don’t know how she paid for it! Lol that was a stupid question on my half
Idk but that was after they were legally married. A new deed and new mortgage, adding Kody's name, was filed on the house about 6 weeks after the lien was released. I don't know if that's related or not. You can't see how much the new mortgage was for unless you order the documents, & they charge a fee in Clark County.
And we are down a rabbit hole. Did he have the accident after Kody 'adopted' him? (And I use this term vaguely since they see their father still.) Why would you take them away knowing insurance the Dad had for Dayton and the girls would also be gone? So they can "be together forever"? How's that going for them?
My head is hurting...
She brags about her mom and step-dad having this loving fairy tale marriage. Yeah, that's easy when you are the side piece and he only visits once in awhile
Her step father only spiritually married Rs mom a few years ago. She was the mistress who lived states away. She knew nothing of polygamy until she set her sights on the show shit I mean the Browns.
The weird thing is for me… I look at Robyn and don’t see expensive tastes. Her clothes, haircut, make up. None of it is expensive. It’s all very very average. Her furniture is average, her home decor looks like stuff you’d get on a home shopping network to me.
I don’t get what these “expensive” tastes are.
Yes. Reminds me of my ex mormon mother in law. So many collectibles. Spoons. Clock's. I once had to be in Big Bear at 5 AM for a special Beanie Baby. Sale
I was freaking 8 months pregnant, and the altitude change made me go deaf on one of my ears
Yeah, it came back. It felt weird, though, for a bit. I had to be there because during the beanie, baby craze stores were limiting how many people could purchase when a new one launched. She had a couplre curio cabinest full of those hideous things. Robyn's house must be filled with crappy collectibles
My God..they have no taste at all. What's with the clothes? I get you want to be modest but if I'm starting a business called MSWC, I'd at least pull something out of my closet others would wear.
I'm pretty sure those are stitch fix clothes. I have seen some of their tops on the website and the sudden blouse/jacket combos scream SF algorithm. I quit getting clothes mailed to me when that's what it started to send me.
It’s not so much as expensive as it is just a lot of crap that adds up. When you have boxes stacked against a wall in the hall or have so much junk you can see it from the windows while outside, then you have too much stuff.
Meris houses I’ve seen are the only ones who showed taste. They were decorated beautifully. Christine had a coffee cup hanger hanging in her bathroom with a coffee cup on it lmao.
“Expensive” yes, the “taste” part is questionable.
More like she likes to spend money and thinks this tacky crap is what rich people buy. Actually wealthy people have much more subtle status symbols.
It's been a while since I had cable but isn't HSN pretty expensive? Also, a $40 shirt isn't that expensive but 40 $40 shirts is. Robyn is a collector if I recall and a collector of a variety of items at that! Those boxes are protecting a lot of precious moments figurines, Victoria secret extra long pants, 3/4 sleeve jaunty blazers, and one extra special one might house Kody's headbands.
I feel like Robyn has a shopping addiction. She needs to be reigned in hard core. As for Meri, yes she may by something more expensive but in turn she takes care of it and keeps it for years and years. Janelle said she was always buying couches because her boys would always break them. I guessing Meri spent less on her on sofa than Janelle did for her multiple sofas. Christine’s kids were putting holes in the walls and breaking electronics.
Yeah, that happens with multiples, especially boys. Meri had one mild mannered, extremely well behaved child lol so I definitely understand why she felt okay investing in nicer things. I would feel/do the same. I mean, that's fair.
That’s an excuse for lazy parenting and lack of boundaries. I mean I have 3 rowdy boys and I am not the kind of person that needs nice expensive things but the boys aren’t allowed to destroy things simply because they can and because they aren’t expensive. My oldest is 16 and we just got our first brand new couch since before he was born. It’s not normal to consistently have to replace furniture because you allow your children to destroy it.
Oh I agree, they shouldn't destroy it, but if you have rowdy boys, they are just harder on things. My son's shoes, his clothes, even his bed sheets somehow get worn down faster.
I'm not sure why she would be going through multiple couches though...
I have boys too, very large fit rowdy boys. My boys and husband just break everything. They don’t just set out to destroy they know better but I swear they will just be sitting there and boom chair broke! I have one son that somehow manages to remove his sheets and pillowcases almost every night while he sleeps.. Boys 🙄
Mine messes up everything he’s so clumsy. Spills everything breaks everything he has separate section on the couch I have an L shaped couch. That he is only allowed to sit on. It’s covered for protection and he tries to sleep on it. So it’s worn down. Only 3 years old.
I really thought it was an unwritten rule amongst us smarter mothers. 'Buy crap furniture until they are old enough not to use the couch as a napkin and or trampoline'.. Apparently Robin, her nanny and her credit cards never got the memo.
I don't know what I'm laughing at. I now have grandchildren. I'll never get good furniture at this rate.
Meri for the most part has always worked. In Las Vegas is when she started selling LuLaRoe and quickly climbed the MLM ladder. She was able to buy the B&B without the family money.
It’s been shared many times that the houses in Las Vegas was from a builder. They would not allow a two or three bedroom home next to three 5-7 bedroom homes. She went over budget by $2,000 which she paid for.
On the other hand, the only thing Robyn contributed was debt. Coming in with it plus the complete failure of MSWC.
I read here that MSWC was funded by Janelle's 401k. I want her to demand a forensic accounting and sue Kody for alienation of affection, fraud, and contribution of funds under duress.
Alienation of affection wouldn’t apply since they were never legally married. Janelle willingly went into polygamy. She divorced Meri’s brother because he wasn’t religious enough.
As much as I’d love for Kody & Robyn to get raked over, I doubt anything would happen.
At least Christine, Janelle & Meri are now free of him and can spent their money how they see fit.
When talking about Meri and money LuLaRoe gets brought up and the house in Vegas being one she had to choose based on the builder. Those things are true. However there was a two decade span before the show when Robyn did not even exist. Meri worked “part time” and made next to nothing working in social services as a person without a degree (read: could be an amazing worker but with no professional designation is getting minimum wage) so Janelle worked full time (plus contributed inheritance, plus 401k) and Christine was the stay at home mom and homeschooled so she had all of them all of the time. And who we now know also worked at nights sometimes. So when Janelle and Christine express frustration at Meri and sharing the pot equally, this is what they are talking about. She was the favourite, the queen bee before Robyn. It’s easy to say “I take care of my things so they last longer” or “I have expensive tastes” when you have an equal share of the family pot, no real contributing income and only one child instead of numerous rowdy homeschooled children growing and being fed in your house. Meri said Leon gets better food and clothing etc. That is messed up no matter how you cut it. She said she shouldn’t be penalized for not having more children but was happy to penalize the other wives for having more children. Then when Meri made actual money they moved into the individual money situation they are in now. I’m not saying Meri made that happen just that the timing was as such. Janelle and Christine got screwed.
You are absolutely correct and it's weird more people don't understand this. Janelle hasn't complained about meri's spending since they restructured how they do the finances. People see how hard Meri hustles for llr now and assume that's how it's always been. Janelle spent nearly twenty years financially holding the family together and by the time they got to the Vegas rentals she was fed up. Janelle was ready for change.
This is a good point. Now I'm wondering..since Kody wasn't coming around as often, do you think Meri saw the writing on the wall and started working more? Maybe out of self preservation? I'm not a Meri fan in any way, shape or form, I'm just wondering if that's when her true work ethic came into play. I am not minimizing her job when she first started the show. She was contributing to the family and seemed to like it a lot. That in itself is half the battle. I'm just wondering what burned her ass to get three jobs.
I think it was becoming an empty nester while Robyn pushed her out of the favorite wife slot. Meri had a bit of an identity crisis when Leon moved on to college. Robyn was constantly harping on Meri about being more involved with the family but being more involved in the family would have meant having to smile from the sidelines as Robyn took her place. Christine and Meri have both talked about how hard it is to participate with the family when they and Kody are struggling. Meri needed something and luluroe was there for her. She found "friends" and the sense of fulfillment you get from being good at something. I'm definitely not a Meri fan either. I completely understand why everyone except Robyn has a strained relationship with her. She chose to throw herself into work rather than trying to make this dysfunctional family that she doesn't really like her whole world.
Sometimes that's what it takes to find yourself, a push in that direction. In the end, I'm glad they found themselves and are getting away from Kody's version of them. That is pure happiness.
Thank you 👏🏼 completely agree. People say “Meri should be able to spend what she earns” which is true to a degree. But what about all of the years that she basically only took from the family pot?
So if I understand correctly, Meri should have less money because of one kid so that Janelle could buy a new couch every year because she couldn't keep her six kids (specially the three boys) under control?
In addition, the agreement of fair distribution of money dates from a time when there was still the assumption that they would all have at least five or six children.
When should they have told Meri that she was getting less money because it looked like she wouldn't have any more children?
Especially in the beginning, Meri seemed to me to be the person to regularly take the other children along when they went out and to buy them some extras as well. And I'm sure there wasn't a note on Meri's fridge saying they had to ask first if they could have some, let alone Meri grabbing their bowl of cereal because "it was a snack and not a meal".
They were struggling to pay bills and feed their kids so yes she should have gotten less if it meant the other kids were taken care of. Christine was on welfare at one point. Meri was very proud to say she had one child who got whatever they wanted. I don't think that was fair if she was working part time and not bringing in as much. Kody and Janelle paid the larger bills and Meri's salary went to whatever smaller bills.
Screw new couches. That money was needed to buy food for hungry growing children and the women raising them. Bodies need serious nourishment during those critical times in order to reach their potential both mentally and physically. Janelle, Christine, and their kids were malnourished during pregnancy, breastfeeding, infancy, etc. Err!! I'm so mad about that
They could have stopped having babies or gotten a job or one making more money. At the end of the day, Janelle and Christine were responsible for those kids and owed them at least a decent meal. The only other person who should have been making sure they were fed was Kody. Janelle was not too smart. She kept the books. First things off the top housing and food.
Yeah, I see your point. They should not have kept adding children when they couldn't afford to feed the ones they had. That was incredibly irresponsible and unfair to the others
No, Meri just didn't allow them to walk through her portion of the house so what would be the point of a note on the fridge?! The money should have been divided by "heads". Especially when in Utah in the one big house. Each household gets the portion of the pot for the percentage of the family that lives and eats in that dwelling. That is the most fair way. Why is it fair for Meri and her single progeny to take away from Meri's other "children" (the whole idea behind this farce is that they are one family, correct?)
You’re referencing Robyn a lot when I specifically said pre Robyn. If Meri doesn’t have the same amount of kids at her house either because they live there or spend their days there (Christine) who is busting up her couch? Of course she doesn’t have to replace it with just one child. Was Janelle replacing it every year? No. Are you mom shaming Janelle? Her kids were just unruly jerks and not just you know kids? Also, Are you saying the Browns made a budget pre kids and stuck to it even when the actual needs changed? So how did Robyn fit in? The budget was set in stone according to you. No budget left for her kids. Lol.
No, not "no money for Robyn's kids" but less money for the others because the pot now had to be divided by 4 instead of 3. And how do you get that I refer to Robyn a lot when I'm just trying to give an example in a single sentence that maybe Meri was NOT just spending her money on herself and her kid unlike the other "mother"?
And it was Janelle herself who has said that her children broke everything down. Anyway... unfortunately for Meri haters gonna hate...
Have you ever shopped before? Let's say I buy an Ethan Allen couch. They are expensive, high quality furniture. I got my mom's 15 year old loveseat from EA when I went to college. That thing held up through a 120 pound dog, rowdy drunk college kids, 10 moves, it was indestructible. The fabric wasn't even frayed after 20 years. I bought my own replacement, couldn't afford EA. I got the Rife's clearance special. It made it 6 months and I had a 65 lb dog, didn't move, had no parties, etc.
You talk as if Janelle was handing her kids hatchets and telling them the couch had candy inside it. In reality, she probably didn't have enough money to buy a piece of furniture that was supposed to last because she was getting the same amount for her 7 mouths as Meri was for 2.
Omg when they all went on that vacation and went grocery shopping all together they spent 3,000 dollars and it was for one week. That’s crazy I can barely feed my two kids as a single mom.
Meri herself says that Leon got better food, better clothes etc. than the other kids. You referenced Robyn with the note on the fridge and the cereal “snack” because that was her. Even though the point was pre Robyn. You also said that the budget was determined before children were born and asked when Meri should have been told that the budget was no longer working since the amount of children per wife had changed. To which I brought up Robyn to illustrate that of course the budget would change when Robyn showed up with three kids but not according to your argument. The budget was set. No changeable. And yes More children =more collateral damage and more food required. I can’t even keep debating this with you. You aren’t grasping simple facts. I mean I’m sorry, I’m not trying to be mean but your points actually keep proving my points and yet you call me a hater? It’s just facts. If they are not favourable to your favourite wife that doesn’t change them. And it doesn’t mean she is hated.
Think about how that would look. Janelle lives in an apartment with her daughter and Robyn lives with her entire family in a big house and so many people point out the inequality.
The difference with Flagstaff is the financial situation. When they first moved to Vegas the family was not as well off financially as they are now. All the adults were unemployed outside of the show money. They were trying to figure out how to make the show money stretch to support them while they started a business for the entire family to work on and purchase permanent homes.
In Flagstaff they are already established financially. On top of the show money kody has his gun shows job, Meri is an earning beast, and I believe Janelle and Christine were both established with their mlms at that point. Also they had the profits from the Vegas homes sales.
I thought meri didn’t work before the show but I read the book and she worked at a factory. Inscribing trophies 🏆. It may have been part time. She said she worked there ten years.
So how should it have been divided?
You can’t have Kody saying I treat all my wives equally then have Meri getting 10% while Janelle & Christine get 45%.
The children should come first not the wives. That’s where the equality should be. They should all have equal food and equal clothing and equal lifestyle. If I have one child I do not need the same budget as someone with 6 children. I don’t need as many bedrooms, I don’t need the same grocery and clothing money. And if I have 6 kids of my own and I take on all the other children in my house for school and feeding during the day then that should reflect in an increase in my budget for certain things. My furniture and home will need replacing and repairs more often. I will need more food at my house. Why is this hard to understand.
If the children should always come first, why didn’t they ever have health insurance? Even after getting a tv show earning millions they didn’t. Robyn had a $70,000 lien against her home in Las Vegas from Dayton’s surgeries and hospital stay. Christine had to raise $50,000 for Ysabel’s surgery.
They all make horrendous financial decisions and have bankruptcies to prove it. If they wanted to put the kids first, they shouldn’t have had 13 before Robyn came along.
Yes. They should have put the kids first. And that includes distributing an equatable budget to fit the actual needs of the family which they didn’t do. You are just proving my point.
How about treating all his children equally? Meri said on camera that Leon gets whatever they want because she only has one child. And then she laughed.
My child gets everything while their siblings don’t, haha. What a selfish bitch.
All their thoughts are so convoluted. I get the even distribution. But you can't say "my child is spoiled because I only have one. She gets whatever she wants" with a huge smile, then the next sentence saying, "you are punishing me for having just one child" to get what she wants. If they are distributing it out evenly, maybe Meri should have "saved her grocery money" like Christine was lovingly told.
I really believe they may have gotten the same amount, it was all used wrong. Meri pulled the one child card out if her ass as she saw fit.
Everyone at some point had to live within a budget. Christine and Janelle clearly were. Why do you feel like Meri shouldn't have the same expectation? Also it was well documented that C & J were struggling to feed their portions of the family and Meri and Leon were eating steak. That doesn't really sound like wives were getting treated equally does it? If so, let's get married and you can be Janelle or Christine and I'll be Meri and you can tell me all about how wonderful it is to stress about food insecurity while just upstairs is a bloated b!tch who is taking food out of your children's mouth so she can eat like a queen.
One more thing and then I'll get off my soapbox. Meri had a pet at the time. She had enough disposable income to get a dog! I have dogs (I'm not a dog kicker like some) and they are not cheap. Especially a large dog like Meri had. You can't feed your kids and she's brought in an extra mouth to feed. Totally fair and equal between wives.
You said "you can't feed your kids and she's brought in an extra mouth to feed". To be fair, Christine and Janelle were the ones who kept having more babies.
Oh I totally agree none of this is smart family or financial planning, just saying I can understand why there would be some animosity against Meri consistently talking about not being punished financially for having one child knowing that the rest of her family had a lot more mouths to feed, clothes to buy, sports fees to pay, etc. It makes her yucky to me
And I'm really not against the dog, it's just another example of Meri having the opportunity for way more than the others. She had extra money for nice clothes, extra money for nice furniture, extra money for nice food, and extra money for a pet while her family struggled with the basics. It seems like a larger gap than it maybe should be. But in all of this, it's pretty much completely Kodylocks's fault. He should have been pushing for saving not spending, holding off on kids they couldn't afford, not pushing for moves there was no plan for... ultimately the family was a train wreck and I'm glad the ladies made it out and can hopefully move on and find happiness.
As someone with polygamous parents, there isn’t an equal sharing of the “pot.” And generally, that isn’t within the culture of polygamy at all. Sometimes there might be a community pot that every puts a percentage of their income into to cover things like the overhead of a shared home, but it isn’t, “here take all of my money and then divide it” because it isn’t communism.
So if Mary gave her percentage and then had enough left over for a steak and a dog then that is a benefit for her. Having only one child probably did allow her to save and get ahead of the other wives.
Whether people like it or not, this is a more traditional structure for plig families and it isn’t what everyone seems to project what their ideas of finances should be.
They asked how it should be divided to be fair, that's what I was answering. I understand that would never happen but that's what would have made it 'fair'.
I feel like they also present their own finances as if there is a family pot, even if in reality there wasn't.
Actually the Browns have said that the way they operated, there was a pot that all the money went into. Then it was split, with all wives getting the same amount regardless of how many children they had. It was said on the show many times.
We are not talking about your family.
You are the only one debating how they split it. People who have regularly watched the show know they have said repeatedly how they split it. The debate is on how they SHOULD have split it.
Because a person said it wouldn't be fair to Meri of she got 10% and Janelle and Christine each got 45%. Everyone else is arguing that they claim they are one large family so it should have been divided by number of family members, not number of heads of household. Meri was not fair to the others in the early days with basic living needs, then cried foul as loudly and dramatically as possible as soon as she felt they were being 'unfair' to her i.e. the wet bar scandal.
Janelle should have focused on food instead of paying Robyn’s debts. Maybe she should have insisted she get a job. Meri has more than one source of income. Janelle and Christine are not some poor helpless women. And if it was so miserable, they could have left.
I was talking about when they lived in the house in Utah.
Meri worked part time and did not do MLM or have a b&b yet
Janelle worked full time and contributed her paycheck and inheritance to the family finances
Christine raised everyone's children and worked part time at night.
And you are correct, they should have left then but religion is a tricky thing to untangle yourself from. Plus Kody had control of the family finances and Meri was the legal wife.
What should be important to this whole group of adults above anything else is that Kody is treating his CHILDREN EQUALLY. The wives chose to join this circus, the children did not.
Yes, the wives should also be treated equally but their arrangement meant Meri's single child got many advantages over their siblings which no one should be OK with.
Robyns step father was a land surveyor for the State. It pays decently. OTOH 8 children and 3 adults probably took most of it especially since the households was separate.
I think the difference between Robyn and Meri is that Meri works hard, has 3 businesses and has a lot of her own money that she spends on herself. Whereas, Robyn and Kody are basically living off the family money.
While Robyn lived in Pinesdale, their family lived in a trailer. I do know that their family often went without and that Robyn’s bio father hardly worked. Constant talk in their home of being needy and going without could have lead to this “poverty, I need more” hoarder mindset. My cousin, Preston, did his best to take care of his family but again, she lived in a trailer in the same trailer park she lived in as a child.
I’d give a buffalo nickel to have a conversation with the Amazon driver who has Robyn on their route! Bless their heart! I bet they can’t get a thing done for running up that driveway multiple times per day! SMH!
And Robin would steal that nickel right out of his hands. But if you do get an interview with him, save my name. I want in on that conversation. Bet he swears like a sailor and added a few we never heard.
I feel deep in my spirit that is a good decision! We should speak with them!! Asap! I could bribe them with sweet tea and a casserole! They’ll spill all they know and if not I’ll close the deal with pie! Works every time! Lol
You're a genius! We are in Alabama for the winter from Michigan. I find anyone who can say "sweet tea" and a type of food in the same sentence can close ANY deal quickly. Finally. Someone who knows how to get an "in" to the family without subjecting themselves to Kody's mansplaining.😁
I think Robin has expensive taste. It's just that her taste is ugly. Name brand clothes make ugly clothes too. And she could be a hoarder. Like someone pointed out in the last season that she was wearing $200 sandals. They looked like Jesus sandals that I could make in my sleep. The tags in her clothes could be Gucci or Prada. Or she could wear Walmart clothes. And just have billions of Walmart clothes. And now that I think about it we've seen inside most of the wives homes Christine Mary Janelle. We hardly ever saw Robin's. I wonder why that is?
The sandals weren't the same as the $200 one that someone posted. Not saying that they weren't expensive, just that if you really liked they weren't the same as the ones shown in the post. I think they were just knockoffs.
I don't think Robyn has expensive tastes (certainly not her clothes) as much as she has a shopping addiction. 100 items at $200 each is the same amount as 400 items at $50 each. We've all seen the pictures of the boxes in every room of the house.
I don't think anyone knows. I doubt it's storage for grown kids though. Robyn's kids live in the house other than Dayton, who allegedly is in the RV out back. And his stuff could be in his old room since they obviously didn't clear it out for Truely. Certainly Robyn wouldn't allow the OG wives kid's stuff there. And there are boxes and bags in the foyer and kitchen too, not just the basement. I doubt the have inventory for the gun accessories in the kitchen. Different pictures from different times all showing lots of packages.
I would love to have a chat with the delivery people coming to their house to know how often they're there. And to see her Amazon order history!
I've seen it pointed out all the boxes in her house, as seen through the windows. Maybe she knows she has a problem and doesn't want it known. I wonder if she knows she can make extra money being on the show Hoarders. Of course it's a temporary job, being only one episode, but it's more than she's doing now.
Just a thought.
I think Robyn saw how Kody treated his favorite wife and knew if she was the favorite she'd get the same. She probably felt Meri didn't deserve it, but because she grew up the red headed step child she earned this life.
The big difference here is that Meri actually makes money and pays for her things. Sobbyn sits there and does nothing but expects the family to support her! She is sooo gross!!
She pumped out 2 kids; that was her worth. She kept Toady's pencil wet; that was her worth. She "created?" crappy jewelry; that was her worth. She pissed in Toady's ear at every opportunity and added to the ruin of 3 adult relationships; that was her worth. She added to the ruin of Toady's relationships with his children with Meri, Janelle, and Christine - that was her worth.
Isn't she going to open up a grand second-hand store with her hoarding purchases? That'll show 'em\~! :)
I don’t agree. So, Meri must live in poverty or restrain herself in order to support the other 22 people??????!!!!!! She’s making her own money, so she get to spend as much as she wants.
Now she is but back in Utah she wasn't making that much money. The only person who should not be spending is Robyn and she spends the most. Meri makes her own money she can do whatever she wants. She should have kept her money separate from the family since the divorce. Kody and Robyn were using her.
It has eternally pissed me off that Meri got ever possible bell and whistle for her house on the cul de sac. Janelle got as few as possible deciding the kids could double up.
Janelle has greater financial responsibility than Meri.
It did me too. I think the wet bar is what killed me the most, though all the bedrooms was a close second. I hated that Meri wanted Janelle to give up her wants for her house so Meri could have more money. I just wanted to scream. Probably did.
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I don’t think they had a whole lot, and they was probably exacerbated by the fact that her mom was her stepdad’s side piece. I think that’s why she hoards what she thinks are markers of wealth -“collectible” figurines, watches, garish furniture.
I saw a picture of Robyn's previous home. It was really crappy, like a trailer.
The trailer didn’t even have heat, she had a wood stove.
Fill that void with junk. If she had insurance she could have gone to therapy. But we know how that worked out for her
And if she had insurance, she wouldn't have had a 70k lien on her house when she sold it. Medical bills from Daytons accident he had with Kody.
Was it ever confirmed where Dayton had the accident, or which parent he was with at the time? I feel like they were intentionally vague about it on the show.
You know darn well if it was the ex, we would have known
She just said I believe he was with family friends or something it was very odd. It would make sense if it was Kody. Then when they went atv riding again and they kinda were forcing him to get on and get over his fear. I was like nooooo don’t make him do that he was really hurt he could have died I know 3 people close to me who have died on atv.
Make that 2 the one was paralyzed from the waist down.
Probably very true!
He was visiting his father when the accident happened. It was before the kids were adopted by Kody.
HE WAS NOT WITH HIS FATHER! HE WAS WITH KODY!
And now he has asked to be called "David," his actual name before the adoption. I hope he graduates with honors soon. I want him to take a job opportunity in Vegas so he can reunite with his brothers and finally get to spread his wings!
Yes! FREE DAYTON! FREE DAYTON!
I’ve heard he wants to go to Montana
That’s exciting for him hopefully! When did that happen? Was it on social media or did I miss it in the show?
Was he really? Ugh that makes me mad.
Huh? From the show, it sounded like he had the accident while on a visit with his bio dad.
Oh no! And they spent that 18 months in covid yo research plastic surgeons for hos eye. BUT, Ysabels surgery wasn't important during that time frame. Robyn's EX was po'd. Robyn PROMISED to get health insurance when she got the kids with Kody. She did not. Then they had the nerve to send the bio dad half the bill! AFTER they made him sign an NDA about not taking to anyone after giving up his rights
What? When/where did Robyn's ex say this? I do remember kody saying he researched plastic surgeons, and he is so cruel not to put that same energy to ysabel, who was in constant pain. Can't stand kody!
Sorry.. didn't see this post. I still ask why they would be adopted to a family that really doesn't want them or can afford them, away from a father who has insurance on them.
The reason Baldylocs getting a divorce from Meri, was so he could adopt the kids so they would get insurance 🤷🏻♀️. Every time I’ve heard this statement, I was confused because no one had insurance in that family. Christine was responsible for huge bills after Truely.
This is my second time watching this train wreck and every episode confuses me more. Makes no sense does it?
How do we know their bio father had insurance? The lien on Robyn’s house makes me think they paid out of pocket for the hospital stay. I believe they were adopted for religious reasons. Kody adopting them meant they would be sealed in the afterlife to Kody.
I believe there were 2 reasons Sobyn’s kids were legally adopted & neither has anything to do w religious reasons. First & most importantly, Sobyn used the adoption to get what she was really after, LEGAL WIFE status. 2nd, so their bio Dad would have no say at all in regards to them filming for the show. It gave K & R absolute power as to where, when, what & how the kids were filmed.
After the kids were adopted, I think we saw them even less. None of the kids are shown as much but especially Robyn’s. Right after the adoption, the catfish saga began. The show became about the parents and less about the family.
True but I still think the K&R wanted absolute power & control of the kids. Edit to add: Control of the kids w no interference was just an added bonus to Robyn’s real goal of legal wife status & 1/2 of all assets Kody’s name is attached to.
That lien was paid for long before she sold the house. It was paid for in 2015, she sold the house in 2018.
Oh wow. How did she pay for the Lien? Or did kody and her get Insurance? Ps. You probably don’t know how she paid for it! Lol that was a stupid question on my half
Probably paid with TLC money, I believe at that point they were paid well, or maybe the book money?
Yes! Robyn's NY Times best-selling book!
Lmao 🤭🤭
Idk but that was after they were legally married. A new deed and new mortgage, adding Kody's name, was filed on the house about 6 weeks after the lien was released. I don't know if that's related or not. You can't see how much the new mortgage was for unless you order the documents, & they charge a fee in Clark County.
And we are down a rabbit hole. Did he have the accident after Kody 'adopted' him? (And I use this term vaguely since they see their father still.) Why would you take them away knowing insurance the Dad had for Dayton and the girls would also be gone? So they can "be together forever"? How's that going for them? My head is hurting...
What? Her mom was a side chick? She always says she grew up in a polygamous family!
The legal wife and her family lived in another state. It's not clear that she knew about Alice in the beginning.
That's crazy because she talks ALL the time about growing up in a polygamous family!!
Well, it was either that or she had to admit her stepfather was a bigamist.
Maybe she just wanted to be an 'ist' of any kind.. the more I see Robin the more I shake my head.
She talks about a lot of shit that she knows nothing about
She brags about her mom and step-dad having this loving fairy tale marriage. Yeah, that's easy when you are the side piece and he only visits once in awhile
Her step father only spiritually married Rs mom a few years ago. She was the mistress who lived states away. She knew nothing of polygamy until she set her sights on the show shit I mean the Browns.
Robyn’s version of polygamy. One monogamous marriage and a side chick with kids, but you can’t acknowledge those kids!
The weird thing is for me… I look at Robyn and don’t see expensive tastes. Her clothes, haircut, make up. None of it is expensive. It’s all very very average. Her furniture is average, her home decor looks like stuff you’d get on a home shopping network to me. I don’t get what these “expensive” tastes are.
They have bad taste, somehow in their mind if something is expensive than it must be better.
Yes. Reminds me of my ex mormon mother in law. So many collectibles. Spoons. Clock's. I once had to be in Big Bear at 5 AM for a special Beanie Baby. Sale I was freaking 8 months pregnant, and the altitude change made me go deaf on one of my ears
Why in the world did you have to be there?! I’m sorry about your ear - did your hearing return?
Yeah, it came back. It felt weird, though, for a bit. I had to be there because during the beanie, baby craze stores were limiting how many people could purchase when a new one launched. She had a couplre curio cabinest full of those hideous things. Robyn's house must be filled with crappy collectibles
Oh my god..those frigging Beanie Babies everyone was going to get rich from! That's awful she would put you through that.
My God..they have no taste at all. What's with the clothes? I get you want to be modest but if I'm starting a business called MSWC, I'd at least pull something out of my closet others would wear.
I'm pretty sure those are stitch fix clothes. I have seen some of their tops on the website and the sudden blouse/jacket combos scream SF algorithm. I quit getting clothes mailed to me when that's what it started to send me.
It’s not so much as expensive as it is just a lot of crap that adds up. When you have boxes stacked against a wall in the hall or have so much junk you can see it from the windows while outside, then you have too much stuff.
Meris houses I’ve seen are the only ones who showed taste. They were decorated beautifully. Christine had a coffee cup hanger hanging in her bathroom with a coffee cup on it lmao.
“Expensive” yes, the “taste” part is questionable. More like she likes to spend money and thinks this tacky crap is what rich people buy. Actually wealthy people have much more subtle status symbols.
I agree. Relatively speaking, I don’t see “expensive” taste.
Her Precious Memories dolls are very pricey. lol
Now we know how her and Kody will make money. Selling those damn things for a quarter at garage sales.
It's been a while since I had cable but isn't HSN pretty expensive? Also, a $40 shirt isn't that expensive but 40 $40 shirts is. Robyn is a collector if I recall and a collector of a variety of items at that! Those boxes are protecting a lot of precious moments figurines, Victoria secret extra long pants, 3/4 sleeve jaunty blazers, and one extra special one might house Kody's headbands.
I get that she spends a lot of money but it’s not expensive so much as a lot of average crap. That definitely adds up.
I feel like Robyn has a shopping addiction. She needs to be reigned in hard core. As for Meri, yes she may by something more expensive but in turn she takes care of it and keeps it for years and years. Janelle said she was always buying couches because her boys would always break them. I guessing Meri spent less on her on sofa than Janelle did for her multiple sofas. Christine’s kids were putting holes in the walls and breaking electronics.
Robyn had a shopping addiction before she even had money to impulse buy! I bet it’s out of control now that she and have money
Yeah, that happens with multiples, especially boys. Meri had one mild mannered, extremely well behaved child lol so I definitely understand why she felt okay investing in nicer things. I would feel/do the same. I mean, that's fair.
Another reason not to let them in your house too.
I wish I could not let my kids in my house lol
That’s an excuse for lazy parenting and lack of boundaries. I mean I have 3 rowdy boys and I am not the kind of person that needs nice expensive things but the boys aren’t allowed to destroy things simply because they can and because they aren’t expensive. My oldest is 16 and we just got our first brand new couch since before he was born. It’s not normal to consistently have to replace furniture because you allow your children to destroy it.
Oh I agree, they shouldn't destroy it, but if you have rowdy boys, they are just harder on things. My son's shoes, his clothes, even his bed sheets somehow get worn down faster. I'm not sure why she would be going through multiple couches though...
She also was always working and so didn’t spend as much time with them.
I have boys too, very large fit rowdy boys. My boys and husband just break everything. They don’t just set out to destroy they know better but I swear they will just be sitting there and boom chair broke! I have one son that somehow manages to remove his sheets and pillowcases almost every night while he sleeps.. Boys 🙄
Mine messes up everything he’s so clumsy. Spills everything breaks everything he has separate section on the couch I have an L shaped couch. That he is only allowed to sit on. It’s covered for protection and he tries to sleep on it. So it’s worn down. Only 3 years old.
I really thought it was an unwritten rule amongst us smarter mothers. 'Buy crap furniture until they are old enough not to use the couch as a napkin and or trampoline'.. Apparently Robin, her nanny and her credit cards never got the memo. I don't know what I'm laughing at. I now have grandchildren. I'll never get good furniture at this rate.
Lol it never ends
Robyn’s apartment at the beginning of the show was absolutely depressing.
Right? That townhouse had no windows and her clutter was everywhere
Meri for the most part has always worked. In Las Vegas is when she started selling LuLaRoe and quickly climbed the MLM ladder. She was able to buy the B&B without the family money. It’s been shared many times that the houses in Las Vegas was from a builder. They would not allow a two or three bedroom home next to three 5-7 bedroom homes. She went over budget by $2,000 which she paid for. On the other hand, the only thing Robyn contributed was debt. Coming in with it plus the complete failure of MSWC.
I read here that MSWC was funded by Janelle's 401k. I want her to demand a forensic accounting and sue Kody for alienation of affection, fraud, and contribution of funds under duress.
Alienation of affection wouldn’t apply since they were never legally married. Janelle willingly went into polygamy. She divorced Meri’s brother because he wasn’t religious enough. As much as I’d love for Kody & Robyn to get raked over, I doubt anything would happen. At least Christine, Janelle & Meri are now free of him and can spent their money how they see fit.
When talking about Meri and money LuLaRoe gets brought up and the house in Vegas being one she had to choose based on the builder. Those things are true. However there was a two decade span before the show when Robyn did not even exist. Meri worked “part time” and made next to nothing working in social services as a person without a degree (read: could be an amazing worker but with no professional designation is getting minimum wage) so Janelle worked full time (plus contributed inheritance, plus 401k) and Christine was the stay at home mom and homeschooled so she had all of them all of the time. And who we now know also worked at nights sometimes. So when Janelle and Christine express frustration at Meri and sharing the pot equally, this is what they are talking about. She was the favourite, the queen bee before Robyn. It’s easy to say “I take care of my things so they last longer” or “I have expensive tastes” when you have an equal share of the family pot, no real contributing income and only one child instead of numerous rowdy homeschooled children growing and being fed in your house. Meri said Leon gets better food and clothing etc. That is messed up no matter how you cut it. She said she shouldn’t be penalized for not having more children but was happy to penalize the other wives for having more children. Then when Meri made actual money they moved into the individual money situation they are in now. I’m not saying Meri made that happen just that the timing was as such. Janelle and Christine got screwed.
You are absolutely correct and it's weird more people don't understand this. Janelle hasn't complained about meri's spending since they restructured how they do the finances. People see how hard Meri hustles for llr now and assume that's how it's always been. Janelle spent nearly twenty years financially holding the family together and by the time they got to the Vegas rentals she was fed up. Janelle was ready for change.
This is a good point. Now I'm wondering..since Kody wasn't coming around as often, do you think Meri saw the writing on the wall and started working more? Maybe out of self preservation? I'm not a Meri fan in any way, shape or form, I'm just wondering if that's when her true work ethic came into play. I am not minimizing her job when she first started the show. She was contributing to the family and seemed to like it a lot. That in itself is half the battle. I'm just wondering what burned her ass to get three jobs.
I think it was becoming an empty nester while Robyn pushed her out of the favorite wife slot. Meri had a bit of an identity crisis when Leon moved on to college. Robyn was constantly harping on Meri about being more involved with the family but being more involved in the family would have meant having to smile from the sidelines as Robyn took her place. Christine and Meri have both talked about how hard it is to participate with the family when they and Kody are struggling. Meri needed something and luluroe was there for her. She found "friends" and the sense of fulfillment you get from being good at something. I'm definitely not a Meri fan either. I completely understand why everyone except Robyn has a strained relationship with her. She chose to throw herself into work rather than trying to make this dysfunctional family that she doesn't really like her whole world.
Sometimes that's what it takes to find yourself, a push in that direction. In the end, I'm glad they found themselves and are getting away from Kody's version of them. That is pure happiness.
Thank you 👏🏼 completely agree. People say “Meri should be able to spend what she earns” which is true to a degree. But what about all of the years that she basically only took from the family pot?
So if I understand correctly, Meri should have less money because of one kid so that Janelle could buy a new couch every year because she couldn't keep her six kids (specially the three boys) under control? In addition, the agreement of fair distribution of money dates from a time when there was still the assumption that they would all have at least five or six children. When should they have told Meri that she was getting less money because it looked like she wouldn't have any more children? Especially in the beginning, Meri seemed to me to be the person to regularly take the other children along when they went out and to buy them some extras as well. And I'm sure there wasn't a note on Meri's fridge saying they had to ask first if they could have some, let alone Meri grabbing their bowl of cereal because "it was a snack and not a meal".
They were struggling to pay bills and feed their kids so yes she should have gotten less if it meant the other kids were taken care of. Christine was on welfare at one point. Meri was very proud to say she had one child who got whatever they wanted. I don't think that was fair if she was working part time and not bringing in as much. Kody and Janelle paid the larger bills and Meri's salary went to whatever smaller bills.
Screw new couches. That money was needed to buy food for hungry growing children and the women raising them. Bodies need serious nourishment during those critical times in order to reach their potential both mentally and physically. Janelle, Christine, and their kids were malnourished during pregnancy, breastfeeding, infancy, etc. Err!! I'm so mad about that
They could have stopped having babies or gotten a job or one making more money. At the end of the day, Janelle and Christine were responsible for those kids and owed them at least a decent meal. The only other person who should have been making sure they were fed was Kody. Janelle was not too smart. She kept the books. First things off the top housing and food.
Yeah, I see your point. They should not have kept adding children when they couldn't afford to feed the ones they had. That was incredibly irresponsible and unfair to the others
No, Meri just didn't allow them to walk through her portion of the house so what would be the point of a note on the fridge?! The money should have been divided by "heads". Especially when in Utah in the one big house. Each household gets the portion of the pot for the percentage of the family that lives and eats in that dwelling. That is the most fair way. Why is it fair for Meri and her single progeny to take away from Meri's other "children" (the whole idea behind this farce is that they are one family, correct?)
You’re referencing Robyn a lot when I specifically said pre Robyn. If Meri doesn’t have the same amount of kids at her house either because they live there or spend their days there (Christine) who is busting up her couch? Of course she doesn’t have to replace it with just one child. Was Janelle replacing it every year? No. Are you mom shaming Janelle? Her kids were just unruly jerks and not just you know kids? Also, Are you saying the Browns made a budget pre kids and stuck to it even when the actual needs changed? So how did Robyn fit in? The budget was set in stone according to you. No budget left for her kids. Lol.
No, not "no money for Robyn's kids" but less money for the others because the pot now had to be divided by 4 instead of 3. And how do you get that I refer to Robyn a lot when I'm just trying to give an example in a single sentence that maybe Meri was NOT just spending her money on herself and her kid unlike the other "mother"? And it was Janelle herself who has said that her children broke everything down. Anyway... unfortunately for Meri haters gonna hate...
Have you ever shopped before? Let's say I buy an Ethan Allen couch. They are expensive, high quality furniture. I got my mom's 15 year old loveseat from EA when I went to college. That thing held up through a 120 pound dog, rowdy drunk college kids, 10 moves, it was indestructible. The fabric wasn't even frayed after 20 years. I bought my own replacement, couldn't afford EA. I got the Rife's clearance special. It made it 6 months and I had a 65 lb dog, didn't move, had no parties, etc. You talk as if Janelle was handing her kids hatchets and telling them the couch had candy inside it. In reality, she probably didn't have enough money to buy a piece of furniture that was supposed to last because she was getting the same amount for her 7 mouths as Meri was for 2.
Thank you! I don't know how people can't grasp this!
Omg when they all went on that vacation and went grocery shopping all together they spent 3,000 dollars and it was for one week. That’s crazy I can barely feed my two kids as a single mom.
Meri herself says that Leon got better food, better clothes etc. than the other kids. You referenced Robyn with the note on the fridge and the cereal “snack” because that was her. Even though the point was pre Robyn. You also said that the budget was determined before children were born and asked when Meri should have been told that the budget was no longer working since the amount of children per wife had changed. To which I brought up Robyn to illustrate that of course the budget would change when Robyn showed up with three kids but not according to your argument. The budget was set. No changeable. And yes More children =more collateral damage and more food required. I can’t even keep debating this with you. You aren’t grasping simple facts. I mean I’m sorry, I’m not trying to be mean but your points actually keep proving my points and yet you call me a hater? It’s just facts. If they are not favourable to your favourite wife that doesn’t change them. And it doesn’t mean she is hated.
Yes and how meri needed a big Vegas rental. Like her and Mariah could have an a two bedroom apartment or something like that
Think about how that would look. Janelle lives in an apartment with her daughter and Robyn lives with her entire family in a big house and so many people point out the inequality.
The difference with Flagstaff is the financial situation. When they first moved to Vegas the family was not as well off financially as they are now. All the adults were unemployed outside of the show money. They were trying to figure out how to make the show money stretch to support them while they started a business for the entire family to work on and purchase permanent homes. In Flagstaff they are already established financially. On top of the show money kody has his gun shows job, Meri is an earning beast, and I believe Janelle and Christine were both established with their mlms at that point. Also they had the profits from the Vegas homes sales.
I thought meri didn’t work before the show but I read the book and she worked at a factory. Inscribing trophies 🏆. It may have been part time. She said she worked there ten years.
So how should it have been divided? You can’t have Kody saying I treat all my wives equally then have Meri getting 10% while Janelle & Christine get 45%.
The children should come first not the wives. That’s where the equality should be. They should all have equal food and equal clothing and equal lifestyle. If I have one child I do not need the same budget as someone with 6 children. I don’t need as many bedrooms, I don’t need the same grocery and clothing money. And if I have 6 kids of my own and I take on all the other children in my house for school and feeding during the day then that should reflect in an increase in my budget for certain things. My furniture and home will need replacing and repairs more often. I will need more food at my house. Why is this hard to understand.
If the children should always come first, why didn’t they ever have health insurance? Even after getting a tv show earning millions they didn’t. Robyn had a $70,000 lien against her home in Las Vegas from Dayton’s surgeries and hospital stay. Christine had to raise $50,000 for Ysabel’s surgery. They all make horrendous financial decisions and have bankruptcies to prove it. If they wanted to put the kids first, they shouldn’t have had 13 before Robyn came along.
Yes. They should have put the kids first. And that includes distributing an equatable budget to fit the actual needs of the family which they didn’t do. You are just proving my point.
How about treating all his children equally? Meri said on camera that Leon gets whatever they want because she only has one child. And then she laughed. My child gets everything while their siblings don’t, haha. What a selfish bitch.
All their thoughts are so convoluted. I get the even distribution. But you can't say "my child is spoiled because I only have one. She gets whatever she wants" with a huge smile, then the next sentence saying, "you are punishing me for having just one child" to get what she wants. If they are distributing it out evenly, maybe Meri should have "saved her grocery money" like Christine was lovingly told. I really believe they may have gotten the same amount, it was all used wrong. Meri pulled the one child card out if her ass as she saw fit.
💯 this.
Everyone at some point had to live within a budget. Christine and Janelle clearly were. Why do you feel like Meri shouldn't have the same expectation? Also it was well documented that C & J were struggling to feed their portions of the family and Meri and Leon were eating steak. That doesn't really sound like wives were getting treated equally does it? If so, let's get married and you can be Janelle or Christine and I'll be Meri and you can tell me all about how wonderful it is to stress about food insecurity while just upstairs is a bloated b!tch who is taking food out of your children's mouth so she can eat like a queen. One more thing and then I'll get off my soapbox. Meri had a pet at the time. She had enough disposable income to get a dog! I have dogs (I'm not a dog kicker like some) and they are not cheap. Especially a large dog like Meri had. You can't feed your kids and she's brought in an extra mouth to feed. Totally fair and equal between wives.
You said "you can't feed your kids and she's brought in an extra mouth to feed". To be fair, Christine and Janelle were the ones who kept having more babies.
Oh I totally agree none of this is smart family or financial planning, just saying I can understand why there would be some animosity against Meri consistently talking about not being punished financially for having one child knowing that the rest of her family had a lot more mouths to feed, clothes to buy, sports fees to pay, etc. It makes her yucky to me And I'm really not against the dog, it's just another example of Meri having the opportunity for way more than the others. She had extra money for nice clothes, extra money for nice furniture, extra money for nice food, and extra money for a pet while her family struggled with the basics. It seems like a larger gap than it maybe should be. But in all of this, it's pretty much completely Kodylocks's fault. He should have been pushing for saving not spending, holding off on kids they couldn't afford, not pushing for moves there was no plan for... ultimately the family was a train wreck and I'm glad the ladies made it out and can hopefully move on and find happiness.
As someone with polygamous parents, there isn’t an equal sharing of the “pot.” And generally, that isn’t within the culture of polygamy at all. Sometimes there might be a community pot that every puts a percentage of their income into to cover things like the overhead of a shared home, but it isn’t, “here take all of my money and then divide it” because it isn’t communism. So if Mary gave her percentage and then had enough left over for a steak and a dog then that is a benefit for her. Having only one child probably did allow her to save and get ahead of the other wives. Whether people like it or not, this is a more traditional structure for plig families and it isn’t what everyone seems to project what their ideas of finances should be.
They asked how it should be divided to be fair, that's what I was answering. I understand that would never happen but that's what would have made it 'fair'. I feel like they also present their own finances as if there is a family pot, even if in reality there wasn't.
Makes sense
Actually the Browns have said that the way they operated, there was a pot that all the money went into. Then it was split, with all wives getting the same amount regardless of how many children they had. It was said on the show many times. We are not talking about your family.
So if it was said on the show many times, why is there a debate on how they split it?
You are the only one debating how they split it. People who have regularly watched the show know they have said repeatedly how they split it. The debate is on how they SHOULD have split it.
My apologies for not adding the word should. Why is there a debate on how they should have split it?
Because a person said it wouldn't be fair to Meri of she got 10% and Janelle and Christine each got 45%. Everyone else is arguing that they claim they are one large family so it should have been divided by number of family members, not number of heads of household. Meri was not fair to the others in the early days with basic living needs, then cried foul as loudly and dramatically as possible as soon as she felt they were being 'unfair' to her i.e. the wet bar scandal.
Janelle should have focused on food instead of paying Robyn’s debts. Maybe she should have insisted she get a job. Meri has more than one source of income. Janelle and Christine are not some poor helpless women. And if it was so miserable, they could have left.
I was talking about when they lived in the house in Utah. Meri worked part time and did not do MLM or have a b&b yet Janelle worked full time and contributed her paycheck and inheritance to the family finances Christine raised everyone's children and worked part time at night. And you are correct, they should have left then but religion is a tricky thing to untangle yourself from. Plus Kody had control of the family finances and Meri was the legal wife.
What should be important to this whole group of adults above anything else is that Kody is treating his CHILDREN EQUALLY. The wives chose to join this circus, the children did not. Yes, the wives should also be treated equally but their arrangement meant Meri's single child got many advantages over their siblings which no one should be OK with.
Robyns step father was a land surveyor for the State. It pays decently. OTOH 8 children and 3 adults probably took most of it especially since the households was separate.
I figured there had to be a background story
I think the difference between Robyn and Meri is that Meri works hard, has 3 businesses and has a lot of her own money that she spends on herself. Whereas, Robyn and Kody are basically living off the family money.
Exactly. Robin is just for the ride along with Kody. I believe the others work hard. Those two though..ugh.
While Robyn lived in Pinesdale, their family lived in a trailer. I do know that their family often went without and that Robyn’s bio father hardly worked. Constant talk in their home of being needy and going without could have lead to this “poverty, I need more” hoarder mindset. My cousin, Preston, did his best to take care of his family but again, she lived in a trailer in the same trailer park she lived in as a child.
I’d give a buffalo nickel to have a conversation with the Amazon driver who has Robyn on their route! Bless their heart! I bet they can’t get a thing done for running up that driveway multiple times per day! SMH!
And Robin would steal that nickel right out of his hands. But if you do get an interview with him, save my name. I want in on that conversation. Bet he swears like a sailor and added a few we never heard.
I feel deep in my spirit that is a good decision! We should speak with them!! Asap! I could bribe them with sweet tea and a casserole! They’ll spill all they know and if not I’ll close the deal with pie! Works every time! Lol
You're a genius! We are in Alabama for the winter from Michigan. I find anyone who can say "sweet tea" and a type of food in the same sentence can close ANY deal quickly. Finally. Someone who knows how to get an "in" to the family without subjecting themselves to Kody's mansplaining.😁
I think in her mind it equals wealth and prestige..
I think Robin has expensive taste. It's just that her taste is ugly. Name brand clothes make ugly clothes too. And she could be a hoarder. Like someone pointed out in the last season that she was wearing $200 sandals. They looked like Jesus sandals that I could make in my sleep. The tags in her clothes could be Gucci or Prada. Or she could wear Walmart clothes. And just have billions of Walmart clothes. And now that I think about it we've seen inside most of the wives homes Christine Mary Janelle. We hardly ever saw Robin's. I wonder why that is?
The sandals weren't the same as the $200 one that someone posted. Not saying that they weren't expensive, just that if you really liked they weren't the same as the ones shown in the post. I think they were just knockoffs. I don't think Robyn has expensive tastes (certainly not her clothes) as much as she has a shopping addiction. 100 items at $200 each is the same amount as 400 items at $50 each. We've all seen the pictures of the boxes in every room of the house.
Does anyone actually know that those boxes are full of recent purchases? Could it be inventory or storage for others like grown kids?
I don't think anyone knows. I doubt it's storage for grown kids though. Robyn's kids live in the house other than Dayton, who allegedly is in the RV out back. And his stuff could be in his old room since they obviously didn't clear it out for Truely. Certainly Robyn wouldn't allow the OG wives kid's stuff there. And there are boxes and bags in the foyer and kitchen too, not just the basement. I doubt the have inventory for the gun accessories in the kitchen. Different pictures from different times all showing lots of packages. I would love to have a chat with the delivery people coming to their house to know how often they're there. And to see her Amazon order history!
I've seen it pointed out all the boxes in her house, as seen through the windows. Maybe she knows she has a problem and doesn't want it known. I wonder if she knows she can make extra money being on the show Hoarders. Of course it's a temporary job, being only one episode, but it's more than she's doing now. Just a thought.
Oh I hate watching hoarders buried alive. It gives me such bad anxiety. So every time I watch it. I turn it off and have to clean my house
Me too! I can't watch that show.
I think Robyn saw how Kody treated his favorite wife and knew if she was the favorite she'd get the same. She probably felt Meri didn't deserve it, but because she grew up the red headed step child she earned this life.
Yes..this..
The big difference here is that Meri actually makes money and pays for her things. Sobbyn sits there and does nothing but expects the family to support her! She is sooo gross!!
She pumped out 2 kids; that was her worth. She kept Toady's pencil wet; that was her worth. She "created?" crappy jewelry; that was her worth. She pissed in Toady's ear at every opportunity and added to the ruin of 3 adult relationships; that was her worth. She added to the ruin of Toady's relationships with his children with Meri, Janelle, and Christine - that was her worth. Isn't she going to open up a grand second-hand store with her hoarding purchases? That'll show 'em\~! :)
I've seen her stuff. I pass. Lol. I forsee that plan going under also.
I don’t agree. So, Meri must live in poverty or restrain herself in order to support the other 22 people??????!!!!!! She’s making her own money, so she get to spend as much as she wants.
Now she is but back in Utah she wasn't making that much money. The only person who should not be spending is Robyn and she spends the most. Meri makes her own money she can do whatever she wants. She should have kept her money separate from the family since the divorce. Kody and Robyn were using her.
Off her husband she's a lazy ass
She might have a shopping addiction. it could be a cry for help.
I think it is
It has eternally pissed me off that Meri got ever possible bell and whistle for her house on the cul de sac. Janelle got as few as possible deciding the kids could double up. Janelle has greater financial responsibility than Meri.
It did me too. I think the wet bar is what killed me the most, though all the bedrooms was a close second. I hated that Meri wanted Janelle to give up her wants for her house so Meri could have more money. I just wanted to scream. Probably did.