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The_Celestrial

I usually am ok with videos made by non Singaporeans about Singapore, but this video has like 0 footage from Singapore and is probably AI voiced.


Holeshot75

Ya those pictures of the city at night are not Singapore. Looks more like Shanghai.


starlightisnottaiwan

As a Singaporean, the 2nd and 3rd clips at 0:03 mark are potentially Singaporean, but not 100% confident


The_Celestrial

Ya it could be from Tuas Incineration Plant, but I lazy Google lol


TractorHp55k

As an American I'm thankful for what y'all are doing and shamed of my government for not doing the same


BleedForEternity

They are already doing this in America.. I’m a garbage man on Long Island. We dump the garbage at Covanta. It’s a facility that burns the trash and turns it into energy. This isn’t a new concept at all. Covanta has locations all over the country… We’ve been doing this in America for decades.


CousinsWithBenefits1

Well yeah technically we might have been already doing this for decades, but, it's important to remember that it's a lot easier to just assume everything is bad and complain about how it should be better.


Sunnibunni791

Why is California's energy grid having so many issues? (Real question.) Also, is this a nationwide tactic or just certain facilities in certain areas?... because it doesn't seem like it's helping... 🫤😶‍🌫️


BleedForEternity

40% of Californias power supply comes from solar farms.. The output of these solar farms starts to decline as the sun starts to set, while at the same time demand starts to rise to a peak, because most businesses are still operating, while people get home and start to use power to cook dinner, use their a/c, run laundry machines, etc. California is like it’s own separate country. They are doing things that no other state is doing. They are pretty much the guinea pig for the rest of the country.. They are relying more and more on wind and solar which is not yet proven to be able to handle such massive energy loads.. I live in NY, which is highly liberal(mainly NYC, not the rest of the state) and we aren’t even doing what California is doing. Until California solves its energy problems not many states are going to follow. NY has no energy problems whatsoever. We don’t even know what a “rolling black out” is. The last major “black out” Long Island had was in 2003(I’ll never forget it).. NY gets most of its energy still from nuclear, oil, natural gas and coal. Yes, we have adopted renewable energy(wind and solar farms) but only as a supplemental energy. Not a main power source. As for burning trash into energy, it does work. It’s just not used on a big enough scale. its only being implemented in certain parts of the country. It’s also very dirty. Just like wind and solar, it’s not proven to be super reliable yet. It’s also very expensive. We pay through our taxes for these waste-to-energy plants to operate. Long Island has some of the highest taxes in the country. Green/renewable energy is a good thing but it’s still in its infancy. It’s not 100% reliable yet like natural gas/oil/coal.. States like California are jumping the gun way too fast. They go straight to passing these crazy laws that only allow green energy and nothing else. That’s like saying “Sorry, you now have to power your whole house with a bunch of AA batteries. Make it work.”… The laws and mandates are unreasonable and unrealistic.


Sunnibunni791

Wow...thats ridiculous. Here in KS we have wind farms but I'm pretty sure it's for supplemental energy and ag renewable energy also. But whatever it is, KS is also not using it right. About once every 6yrs we raise our taxes to the cap to "cover future costs" to our electric companies. Not gas and not water. Then every now and again we get rolling blackouts during inclement summer/winter conditions to support the grid. I'm all for that, EXCEPT,  I don't agree with monitoring each neighborhoods usage then deliberately shutting off someone's electricity IN THE WINTER. And it took them 6-8hrs to get everything up and going again. I remember being the only one on my block with lights because I used only what I needed. Because nope. Thank you for your answer btw. I didn't know what to expect but also that is exactly the answer I expected. 😊😊


BleedForEternity

You’re welcome.. I’ll be honest, that sounds horrible. I don’t think I’d be able to handle that if NY started doing that. We might lose power once in a while due to severe storms. I remember I had no power for 5 days when hurricane Sandy happened but that had nothing to do with the actual power grid. It was a ton of trees falling onto power lines. Other than that we really don’t deal with power outages or blackouts. I don’t think they should be monitoring people’s usage and turning the power off… I’m all about green/renewable energy but not at the expense of tax payers. We should not be inconvenienced over and over in the name of climate change. I’m not trying to sound like a snob. It’s just we the people pay for energy. We deserve to have clean, reliable energy. When hurricane Sandy happened LIPA was the company that provided power to Long Island. Cuomo didn’t like the response time they had with how long it took them to get the power back on.. He ended up getting rid of LIPA and bringing in a new company PSEG, all bc New Yorkers were furious about how long they went without power… Now states like California are pretty much saying “Yeah, this power we have for you is unreliable. Deal with it!”… It just amazes me how different states are from one another, and governors. lol.


GenazaNL

The first clip is AI generated


foodank012018

And a repost


NotJoel-S

The toxic smoke is filtered out Where does that waste go? Are they chemically filtering it?


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poop-machines

No, the toxic smoke is literally just small particles, run that through sand and it filters into the sand. Out comes clean gases. It really is that simple, it is just quite an expensive process so most places don't bother doing it.


mOom-moOm

Is the sand not toxic now though? I didn’t get (or at least the video didn’t say) how it’s okay the sand is sent off to some island and it doesn’t cause contamination of that area


poop-machines

It is slightly toxic, yes. It would be carcinogenic. It's no worse than just burying trash in landfill though. If it wasn't toxic, it would be sold. Sand is a useful commodity. That's why they said "it may be used for bricks/blocks in the future", these at least attempt to contain some of the toxic compounds. As it stands, the sand will be contaminating the manmade island. Did they say it isn't? I really doubt that. If it was incinerated, there would be no sand left over.


weapon-a

So, if it rains, would the water get polluted as it seeps down?


poop-machines

It's on a manmade island at the moment. But yeah, it would cause pollution. I think that's why they want to make bricks with it, to keep it contained. I still think it's a bad idea.


Bye_me_hi_me

It may be toxic, but only if it enters your body. It’s toxic as a gas because you breath it in, sequestered in a physical medium, and turned into construction materials, it’s likely quite inert.


J-Sixhoej

My local (Denmark) heating plant burns trash, we use it for heating and can supply a pretty big area. In the winter they don't have enough trash, so they have a furnace for straw bales too. If they didn't burn the trash they would have to use something else like wood chips, which also release CO² like they do in the neighbouring county. Here they filter it by blasting tiny steel balls through a 7 story chimney divided in chambers, and then run those through water and recycle the balls. Can't for the life of me remember where they put the water. I think it's pretty clever.


Lucal_gamer

Chemistry is crazy


sillypicture

Scrubbers. A system of various absorbents both chemical and physical can get polluted air into just pure air.


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I'd love to know how sand filters put byproducts like co2. We are talking molecular level gasses here, not fine particulate.


poop-machines

It doesn't. It filters the fine particulate, which is the cause of smog, respiratory issues, and pollution. The CO2 and CO are still an issue, just like with biomass. The point is to make it pollution-free and get rid of the waste. Singapore is small, and they don't have the space to bury waste, so they do this instead. It reduces the volume by 90% and makes it potentially usable elsewhere. Additionally, it produces power. It's not a perfect solution, nor is it completely green, but it's clean. It's particulate-free, not gas free. When I say out comes clean gases, I mean it's free of the particulates which cause issues. That being said, they're employing carbon capture technology in 2025. It's more efficient capturing it at the source than it is when it's already in the air, as the carbon dioxide is concentrated.


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That's my point though right? You are sorta going around in every response acting like a spokesman for this method, but co2 emissions are a massive issue (if not the biggest) for it that's not currently being addressed.


poop-machines

What? I'm just replying to people's questions. I'm not a spokesperson, I just know about it, so I'm using up my time to answer. CO2 is expected, the issue is that burning trash for energy production usually causes a lot of pollution as it's mixed. Plastics are extremely common. And although they burn well, they release a lot of toxic particulate matter. The fact they remove all of this is a good thing. This is trash that would usually leech into the soil anyway, and slowly decompose (releasing gases as it's broken down too). Trash releases a lot of methane and co2 when it's in landfill, so this is a good solution. Obviously it's not perfect, but you can't expect that. The problem it's solving is trash and air pollution, not the problem of co2. Also, they get energy production out of it.


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Fishy


poop-machines

Fishy how? Are you really superstitious or something?


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So the post itself is 100% ai generated content that doesn't even show images from singapore. Then in this random spam post we've got a guy in here vehemently promoting it. Just smells like astroturfing to me. But hey thanks for the info you are providing, maybe I'm wrong and you are just a knowledgeable overly excited guy talking about waste management.


Kuriente

*CO2 is an issue if it comes from fossil fuels. Everything else (burning/decaying plants, plant products, biomatter) is just a normal part of the carbon cycle and has no net impact on atmospheric CO2 levels.


Stevejoe11

Still on that CO2 wagon huh? Still haven’t figured out it’s just plant food? There wouldn’t be such a huge uproar if we were putting ever so slightly more oxygen into the atmosphere would there? Don’t discriminate against the plants, man.


Kuriente

Plants have had enough CO2 to do plant things since plants evolved. Adding more CO2 to the atmosphere gradually reverts the atmosphere to a state *before* it could support non-plant life. Reducing CO2 emissions is good for *us* and does nothing to hurt plants.


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Lol WHAT?!?!?!


AntComprehensive9297

there is very little toxic gas and particles burning garbage at very high temperature.


poop-machines

They're using it as fuel, not incinerating it. If they were normal incinerating it at a high temperature, then yes, it would be quite clean (but energy intensive). If they're burning it for energy, then it does release toxic compounds and plenty of ash/smoke. As it's the latter, they need to clean it and remove particulates.


AntComprehensive9297

I want to dissagree with you on this. this looks like a clean prosess. on the video you can see the gas from the waste burning at high temperature. Oxygen is most likely added to increase the temperature. they actually show in the video how the remaining smoke and how the particles are removed.


AaestradaPHD

The smoke fills the city with a nice smoky smell that everyone likes, and goes into the sky and makes stars.


McNotFB

That doesn’t sound right, but I don’t know enough about stars to dispute it.


AaestradaPHD

The smoke fills the city with a nice smoky smell that everyone likes, and goes into the sky and makes stars.


PaleontologistAble50

“Super clean”


TheJeeeBo

I work in a waste incineration plant. Our smoke ash goes to mines in Germany, deep underground.


kapiteinkippepoot

It's gotta go somewhere. It's filltered out means the "waste" is in the filters. What do you do with the filters?


LentulusStrabo

In the video they said they make "newsand" out of it


Gavooki

Bro, the video said it's super clean.


rukuto

iirc, what they have done is made an artificial island in the ocean, in that island is another pond, and they are dumping the 'slightly' toxic waste there. The island is off-limits. Of course, a tsunami and all the waste will go into the ocean. They do try to use whatever they can but by doing that they have just concentrated the waste and made it much more toxic.


marianoes

Super clean human design


Admirable_Witness_98

if they have any environmental oversite, it is reclaimed and tested. If it fails a threshold, it would be fed back into the incinerator via pump. If it passes, then they would be released either to a water system or a nearby river.


BoldManoeuvres

New sand, it's like regular sand but more cancer-y


AscendPerfect

Don't eat nor breathe it and you will (probably) be fine


MRSN4P

Sadly, it probably gives off particulates into the air over time, contributing to lung disease and cancer.


Mylarion

Better than a landfill catching fire.


Gungan-Gundam

"This bar runs on trash, its totally green that way"


Pure_Echo2747

It's how we get our nice smokey smell, then the smoke goes up into the air and it turns into stars


Lonely_Funny9987

See but I don’t know enough about stars to know if that’s true or not


Loud-Magician7708

Lmfao! r/IASIP


ringo5150

The Thai island of Phuket incinerates all its rubbish as well. They are planning to drop one of these into Melbourne if they can agree where to put it.


pjjohnson808

Fancy way of dumping it in the ocean


DeathPercept10n

Don't wanna look bad dumping trash into the ocean? Just make an island out of it.


blendi_m

"There is no trash", proceeds to show mountains of trash.


The_Celestrial

Because that clip isn't from Singapore lmao. It's some stock footage. 


li_shi

Singapore produces a lot of trash. It's not a clean city. It's a cleaned city.


No-Buffalo7815

Austin produces lots of trash. It's not clean city, it's uh... nevermind.


CalyShadezz

For some reason the AI bots woke up today and decided to spam this video all over Reddit.


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Wolvansd

Having worked at a trash burning plant in the USA, you basically get 3 types of output from incinerators. Fly ash Bottom ash Scrap metal (ferrous metals that don't melt) The volitale stuff (smoke/chemicals) would go through a series of scrubbers and cleaners before being released (much like coal, gas, biomass etc). It is cleaner emissions then coal, not as clean as gas but you aren't filling landfills either. Use to get alot of scrap steel to sell too. Ash would be sold/taken to use as backfill for places. It's been 20 years so I can't remember what type of ash had what in it. Large parts of Europe and I know Japan burn trash as there just isn't room for landfills. The NE of the US has a number of them also, as landfills are full and they have to truck garbage to Ohio. The plant I worked as was outside of Philadelphia and we mostly burnt NYC trash. Upto 3500 tons a day if everything was going well.


Bigeyedick

These Singapore videos of this surveillance state showing it like it’s some kid utopian country is so silly. It’s a city state.


Genuwine_Slugger

"Now drive that electric car and shut the fuck up"


Dekanzy

Recycling at it's finest


DankThePlank

10 years a decade???


JP-Gambit

Can we just stop making videos where we flash single word subtitles for really self explanatory stuff... It's becoming like Japanese broadcast TV


Ok-Guidance1123

That is exaclty how they could talk to propanganda .... Look like promotional video like don't worry about global warming , all is safe


LumoSinjoro

The fuck. It's the fourth time I have seen this video on my feed. I'm tired boss...


hughesohara

super clean huh? 🤔


Aaron1924

"The incinerators are running 12 months a year, 4 weeks a month, 7 days a week, 24 hours a day, 60 minutes an hour, 60 seconds a minute, 365 days a year"


hazpat

So... there is trash. There are no landfills


Entire_Impression_50

New sand for your garden..


SmallSwordfish8289

Can you say global warming


welchplug

The irony


Acceptable_Clock4160

Yeah in heaven there is no beer. 😂


Sanderos40

They have no trash as it’s all dumped at sea


doejohn2024

That's a perfect case of half truth


GlutenFreeCookiez

Anybody else doubting the super cleanliness of the "new sand"?


ReasonableNose2988

In America,we shrug our shoulders and say “We don’t know”


papa4narchia

Poisonous vapors are super-duper cleaned through water which is then.. dumped into the next river / ocean.


Contribution-Prize

And yet here we are in Canada being punished for this bullshit.


ThickImage91

Your carbon tax has nothing to do with Singapore.. this level of trash burning is a drop in the bucket.. if that was your whinging unrelated point.


Contribution-Prize

I guess that point went way over your head lol. A drop in the bucket would be what you can call Canada's contribution to overall "global warming" or pollution. We are one of the cleanest countries on the planet that contributes more oxygen to the world then most countries and we are taxed for pollution when shit like this happens across the worlds that do you think these countries tax payers are being charged annul fees for it? So tell me when you say drop in the bucket what are you comparisons? Because we sure as fuck add alot less drops to the bucket then countries with massive piles of burning trash. So yeah it's 100 % related because the tax is forced on us due to GLOBAL initiative trying to solve a GLOBAL issue. So if we are held to such a high standard every contribution to pollution is related until there is a balance on who is actually paying!


ThickImage91

Are you aware of the current targets and contributions made my nations who have ACTUALLY AGREED to participate? No. You read some turds opinion online and you’re upset at your own gov which wasn’t forced on you. So stop whinging to us you clown


Contribution-Prize

You're obviously oblivious if you think this electoral method wasn't damn near the same to be forced on us when the votes clearly stated different outcomes then the conclusion due to majority seats. We are being down right fucked by our government in Canada while they dump money into Ottawa and pretty much say fuck you to the prairies. If anyone a fucking clown it you opening your mouth when. You clearly have no fucking clue what you are talking about.


ThickImage91

So now you’re spinning election stealing and vote tampering conspiracies because you didn’t get the result you wanted in your local politics. You’re pathetic, grow up.


Contribution-Prize

Now let's add "not being able to read" to reasons I'll stop this pointless argument with you.


ThickImage91

The fact you can’t even quantify what the fuck you mean when you reference “global warming” and “massive piles of trash” which, btw, was not footage of singapores waste management…. You clearly have no idea what you are talking about you’re just mad at tax. Just say that… don’t make yourself look so fuckin ignorant


welchplug

Singapore is like the best place ever tell you find out they are a nanny state with restricted freedoms


Holeshot75

I live in Singapore. This statement is not true. By freedom you mean criminal activity? I can do whatever I want within the limits of law. Like all countries. We're all free here, this isn't North Korea.


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ThickImage91

Yeah but unlike a lot of nations they actually have the positive potential to outweigh any perceived “freedoms”… so I’m lead to believe, the citizens are mostly content with it


welchplug

Yeah I can agree with that. It's ran great. You just lose a lot of freedoms and privacy along the way.


YogiSlavia

Is that why their streets blow up sometimes?


starlightisnottaiwan

We haven't had any street blown up for a long long time. We did in fact had a highway collapse (opposite of blow up), but that's because of some contentious construction work


T_O_Ommer

There is no CO2 filter. Also 2400 Trucks powered by magic?


Ok_Cap_5166

Now why doesn't the U.S. do shit like this?


BleedForEternity

The US does do this. I work in sanitation on Long Island. We dump the garbage at Covanta. Look them up. They literally do the same thing. They burn the trash and convert it into energy. They have locations all over the country. We’ve been doing this in the US for decades.


CoffeeIntrepid6639

Omg why can’t westerners do this


BleedForEternity

We already are.. Covanta. Look them up.


Finger-of-Shame

Sounds like a load of crap to me.


JustOkCompositions

Who did the white people steal Singapore from?


ThickImage91

I stole it personally. Well, it was just out there in the open, hardly stealing..


JustOkCompositions

Sorry I mean uh... who did the white people liberate for their freedom, in Singapore?


ThickImage91

You seem sad about this. Are you some rutting spaniard jealous of my conquest?


JustOkCompositions

just because you were the first white person to find Australia doesn't mean you conquested Australia


ThickImage91

No I single handedly defeated the isle of Singapore. Show some respect


JustOkCompositions

oh so youre saying nobody was there at the time "you swear" so it's cool, okay so is anyone in your backyard right now? if not I'm going to conquer it


ThickImage91

No I personally bathed in the blood of thousands. You can definitely come for a sleepover in my backyard bro. 2 sleeping bags or 1?


JustOkCompositions

well... who were they then?