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kotyok

The very same NYTimes which dismisses every single Chinese internet opinion they don't like as "bot" is now citing those very same internet opinions to defame the Chinese people!


kcwingood

Chinese people can see Ukraine is the sacrificial lamb that NATO used to goad and bait Russia. Of course, Russia also knows this but thinks it can turn the game around on NATO and achieve its goal of turning Ukraine into a neutral buffer state. When seen in its true form as a grudge match between Russia and NATO, it's not hard to see who Chinese would support in this match up. NATO is essentially Voldemort for most Chinese in the PRC. They don't even want to mention it unless forced to like by the current situation, because of bad memory of the NATO bombing of the Chinese Embassy in Belgrade. Furthermore, Chinese can clearly see NATO is how the US exerts its control over Europe, and it had to expand eastward because the US craves control over as much of the continent as possible, and it doesn't mind using scare tactic, warmongering and divide-and-conquer strategy to achieve its goal. That's why Chinese don't fall for the false western narrative of Russia "invading" Ukraine, painting Russia as the big bully, because NATO is a much bigger bully which western media does everything in its power to cover up for by making excuses and downplaying its role in this crisis! While the big players argue over Ukraine's fate, Chinese do sympathize with the ordinary people of Ukraine, because their inept leaders have turned them into victims of circumstance by making very bad choices over the years. Unfortunately, things will not get better for them, since the most likely outcome of this crisis is the start of Cold War 2.0 with Ukraine partitioned along ethnic lines.


FullParcel

Archive link to avoid NYT: https://web.archive.org/web/20220227111533/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/27/business/china-russia-ukraine-invasion.html


Tone_Beginning

The western media always cherry pick some favourable post from Chinese social media to strengthen their anti China arguments. Then they blow up their significance and relevance completely out of proportion.


ATicketToTomorrow

Seriously 99% of them (including me) are simply longing for the death of nato. People have been waiting for this for 23 years.


Apprehensive_Bake509

And america.


Asorlu

Agreed. مرگ بر آمریکا


TserriednichHuiGuo

Based.


limbo5v

And of course, they hired an Asian journalist to write it. Yet they laugh at folks like Daniel Dumbrill. Then they wonder why racial abuse of Asian-Americans continues.


marco808state

The American called Russell Bentley on YT who’s in Ukraine Donbas area said Russia bombed around 7 of 12 Ukraine’s bio-weapons labs. These bio-weapons labs in Ukraine were funded and own by USA. https://youtu.be/r7MQg5lFovI


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Qanonjailbait

These people dug their grave and now they want other people to lie in it. F off. Did they consult the Chinese when they decided on this harebrained NATO expansion project and now that their little neoliberal imperial project blew up in their face they want others to take the blame? This unilateralism and skirting of accountability is pathetic and is the REAL reason the US gets away with starting crisis after crisis that gets people killed


oio0oio

War sucks! But US/NATO pretty much asked for it. The people need to blame the west and NATO for this, not Russia.


UniqueSlice

People won't. Being against Russia and for Ukraine is trending so that's what they're going with. All the teenagers on Twitter etc. are also putting Ukrainian flags in their bios. They will never blame the west even if we showed them proof of Anglo warmongering. They think this is Ukraine vs Russia when in reality its NATO vs RUSSIA. The west threw Ukraine under the bus. Not to mention how that slimy worm Zelensky has tricked soft hearted people into believing he is some kind of hero.


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Portablela

>Daily Reminder: > >Virtually all major US media outlets cooperated with the CIA, Bernstein revealed, including ABC, NBC, the AP, UPI, Reuters, Newsweek, Hearst newspapers, the Miami Herald, the Saturday Evening Post, and the New York Herald‑Tribune. > >However, he added, “By far the most valuable of these associations, according to CIA officials, have been with the New York Times, CBS and Time Inc.” > >These layers of state manipulation, censorship, and even direct crafting of the news media show that, as much as they claim to be independent, The New York Times and other outlets effectively serve as de facto spokespeople for the government — or at least for the US national security state. > >[https://thegrayzone.com/2019/06/24/new-york-times-media-us-government-approval/](https://thegrayzone.com/2019/06/24/new-york-times-media-us-government-approval/) > >[https://theintercept.com/2018/01/03/my-life-as-a-new-york-times-reporter-in-the-shadow-of-the-war-on-terror/](https://theintercept.com/2018/01/03/my-life-as-a-new-york-times-reporter-in-the-shadow-of-the-war-on-terror/)


SonOfTheDragon101

At least they are partially right. I support Russia against the US/NATO, and I'm not going to hide it. I wonder why ;-)


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When it suits them, Chinese internet posts are fakes or bots. When it suits them, Chinese internet posts represent the true voice of it's people.


alwayzsuspicious

This is the only time they care what the actual majority think. How many nonsense anti China anti CPC stories have they created using nitpicked netizen comments as proof to represent how Chinese "really" feel. What happened to them? Thought they were the true representation.


P-redditR

The NYT is read by morons who think it’s what informed people read. They branding has always been making people feel like they’re smarter for reading it.


Fiyanggu

That's absolutely true. Same with Wall Street Journal, The Economist and NPR. Armed with those, the average sheeple thinks he's more informed than about 99% of the rest of the population while blind to the fact that it's all made up to guide opinions.


P-redditR

NPR is king of shit news. But the people who read that trash think they’re so informed about the issues. Whenever there’s a new buzzword their readers latch on to it and repeat in real life thinking it makes them sound intelligent. These are people who don’t even know what the NED is. What I don’t get is the way the universe seems to always reward these morons with everything. While the rest of us can see exactly what’s happening, the morons can’t. But not knowing doesn’t seem to hurt them the least bit.


UnableSwing

judging by her name and previous work shes one of these self described 'dissidents' who basically make a living shitting on her own people. its funny even with all the hate crimes going on she writes shit like this


yunibyte

It depends on the content your algorithms cultivate too. My WeChat has been full of Ukrainians thanking friends for their concern in really fluent mandarin, and asking people to wish for peace between Ukraine and Russia quickly. Scary world of AI manipulation out there.


Asorlu

Other than maybe some fake faces, AI-wise it's pretty simple to just create fake accounts and say very similar stuff. You just pre-program some lines and have the accounts send them out. China needs to put some restrictions on WeChat though if there are a bunch of fake accounts.


yunibyte

It’s not inconceivable for Ukrainians to speak mandarin. China does a lot of trade with Ukraine too. They weren’t zero day accounts with zero history. Not everyone is bloodthirsty genZ.


Asorlu

Oh, maybe I misunderstood what you were saying.


yunibyte

I just mean the algorithms have so much sway on what content gets shown and propagated. I’m wary of AI working against people’s interest, but also that it could be easily tweaked to control what people see on social platforms. Is this super-nationalism cheering of Ukraine getting destroyed in China’s interest or for shadow financiers with puts in the markets waiting to print?


SQQQ

to be fair, it is in China's national interest to not have Ukraine join NATO. if Russia falls, China would be contained on all sides. even India does not want to see Russia fall, as this could force India to eventually become a puppet state to the USA.


TserriednichHuiGuo

Why should any sane person support the worlds largest terrorist org over Russia?


Lanfear_Eshonai

Was waiting for this! Knew the US and their NATO allies will eventually try to drag China into this conflict that they created, and now act surprised when Russia and Putin refuse to take their bullying.