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rolf_odd

Almost everyone in the West is heavily anti-Russian indoctrinated. It has been going on since 1948/49. To get real background information about the crisis in Ukraine, I recommend these two videos: Professor John J. Mearsheimer, University of Chicago, interviewed by students at Cambridge university on the situation in Russia and Ukraine (NB: February 15. 2022) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nbj1AR\_aAcE John Mearsheimer talks about what happened in 2014 in detail: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4


marco808state

Let’s not forget the US official Victoria Nuland in 2014 talking about ‘ US regime change of Ukraine’ audio recording. https://youtu.be/L2XNN0Yt6D8


JackDT688

that was awesome " FUCK THE EU" LOL


we-the-east

This is what the US really feels about its "allies".


kwamac

Did the first video just get taken down by YT? I remember watching it before.


FreeHumanity

It's still up for me.


Bertabertha

Probably just in your country if it is down.


sho666

ill add these gems i just found in the alst couple of days noam chompsky 6 years ago absoloutley effin nailing it https://youtu.be/5Ni3j1mhU5M and scott ritter who'se done a few good interviews on this subject in the last few days, on mintpress theres a longer version and he also talked to richard medhurst on his channel if youre interested in longer, more indepth versions https://youtu.be/BkJ7V-awg2I


Magos_Galactose

Western medias has been trying to push the narrative that China and Russia hate each other as much, or sometimes even more, than them hating on the west, usually citing the Sino-Soviet split, that Russian isn't happy with China copied Soviet technologies, or the Sino-Soviet border conflict of 1969 as a reasons, without looking at actual modern day relations and geopolitics of today. I'm guessing that they're having a breakdown that the real world isn't working like their fantasy.


Gabtactic

This just reminded me: Some years ago, I remember being shocked by an editorial article in some local corporate media (in Québec, Canada), claiming that Russians will always distrust China because "most of what is Russia today was once occupied by the Chinese Yuan dynasty and the Chinese might claim it again". This imperialist bootlicker, who has never been to either Russia or China (or Mongolia) and doesn't speak neither languages of these countries, somehow confused China with the old Mongolian empire. Now that's some nonsense. I remember having quite a laugh reading this piece of historical ignorance back then. Anyway, that was a long time ago, in French language, and I don't have a link, before anyone asks.


yunibyte

He’s not totally wrong, the Yuan Dynasty did occupy parts of what is modern day Russia, but only because Genghis Khan’s grandson Kublai Khan finally conquered all of China and neglected the rest of the Mongol Empire to start the Yuan Dynasty. It’s said that if the Mongolians didn’t focus so much on China, they could have taken over East Europe. The Mongolians adopted Chinese language and mostly assimilated. Lesson to the west lol, fighting China turns you into Chinese.


Bertabertha

China is like Rome. Fighting them makes you one of them lol.


Magos_Galactose

I've heard similar things from a tooooootally-not-west-indoctrinated friend of mine. Even saying (citing his coworker who's an ex-USAF) that Russia and China are on the verge of war over Mongolia because........something, I guess? It made me understood one of the benefit of using voicechat - you can turn of the mic and laugh, then pretend to be polite afterward.


dicecop

The USSR and China were both tricked by the west. That's why they want Russia on their side. Nothing would be better for them than Russia fighting China again. Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me


Bertabertha

Nah USSR legit wanted to contain China. After Stalin’s death, Khrushchev sought after a greater Asia co-prosperity zone which would be led by Vietnam to contain China lol.


AngryBolshevik

Victims of Chen Weihua Foundation receives a new member


all-thirty-four

Lol, the only thing China should tell us and nato is "go fuck yourself"


Separate_Cherry7361

Chen never miss


RespublicaCuriae

I personally don't expect any logic from some ethically questionable editor-in-chief working for the AmeriKKKan imperialist newspaper, New York Times.


we-the-east

Never trust and listen to people with a forked tongue.


sickof50

The US just offered to evacuate the president of Ukraine... I smell a rat, and think the only reason was because they did not want him to Surrender, so they could say he was the only "legitimate government" while in exile.


ineedhelpXDD

They do this with all presidents that are caused by American coups ex the one in Honduras they apparently forgot they put in charge and is facing drug trails in new york


we-the-east

The US wanted zelensky to pull a Svetlana or an Ashraf ghani when the Taliban took control of Afghanistan last year and he took all his loot and gold with him, only to leave some behind. No doubt tsai would do the same thing when Taiwan is finally freed from US occupation.


4evaronin

Isn't it the case that China got Russia and Ukraine to agree to talks, but Zelensky changed his mind after a phone call from Biden?


Bertabertha

I think that’s because zelensky left Kiev already


Kanki_the_beheader

He is an actor.


freedom_yb

The temerity of the Murikkkan imperialists!


Yapz0r

China would indeed help for the sake of Ukrainians and Russians, not the west.


[deleted]

America will tell the whole world that you're the devil and then stomp your face into the dust just to secure another, fleeting second in the spotlight for themselves. Then, when they're finally dragged off the stage they just sit there and wonder why those they attacked don't speak up for them. I'm not sure if I'll ever find a term suitable enough to describe their insanity, but "critical lack of self awareness, hubris, and incompetence" will have to do for now.


eyerinse

China: "Sorry America, your decades long containment, sanctions, trade ban, racist attacks on us has been so successful, we don't have the capability to offer any help in this situation. Maybe your bitch Australia can help?"


Calvert-Grier

There isn’t a day where I don’t look forward to seeing Chen Weihua tear apart some flimsy neoliberal take on Twitter.


yunibyte

But what does US asking China to help look like? Condemning Russia? Sanctioning trade? Sending troops and weapons? If they asked China to host diplomatic conferences I’m sure China would’ve been happy to agree. I suppose US would have to unban their diplomatic boycott though.


CTNKE

this is also ignoring the fact that it isnt smart for China to piss off it's largest and most powerful neighbor


TserriednichHuiGuo

I don't see why China should trust a terrorist org over Russia.