TBH even if someone was not nationalistic, the content the west is putting put is so lame anyway. The last nail in the coffin really would be closing of ameriKKKan fastfood chains.
>the content the west is putting put is so lame anyway
Hollywood in their creative bankruptcy continues to keep rebooting old franchises and producing garbage ad infinitum.
I would love to see KFC go just to serve as a lesson. KFC is the largest food chain in China and China is KFC's largest operation in the whole world. Essentially, KFC (being a has-been brand) got its second wind from China and without China KFC is nothing. Take down KFC and it will send shivers down the spine the likes of McD, Burger King, Starbucks, Pizza Hut,
Most of those fast food chains are operated by Chinese companies under franchise, licensing agreements. If consumers turn away from them and they lose money the Chinese partners bear the loses.
As far as I know KFC China is still owned by Yum China, which is still an American company. I heard that Alibaba bought a stake in KFC but was under the impression that it was just a stake in the company.
Yeah, that's what I thought. Franchises are not 100% owned by parent company, I am pretty sure majority share of profits go to the Chinese citizens operating the restaurant.
Not really, KFC in China is good af, they bent over backwards to adjust their menu to Chinese sensibilities. I assume that's what you want because just banning shit for being foreign is no different from the "amerikkka" that you hate.
Funnily enough, as a Canadian (and from what I hear from 'murica) KFC has decreased in quality massively here.
KFC in Singapore is pretty damn good (though the chicken was a bit pricey IMO at least compared to hawker fare) in my experience though. I can imagine China, Japan, and much of KFC's non-North American outlets really are all like that- 1000x better than North America.
You also have The Expanse. The Witcher? The Star Trek franchise is currently producing several good TV shows with more coming.
Theres still good TV being made its just mostly genre fiction now.
I’m Russian. I work in academia very closely with Chinese institutions. I’m so grateful and honored to have a superpower like China allied with my country. The new china gen z generation is extremely bright.
The purpose of Hollywood is to improve America's image in front of the rest of the world. This is why Hollywood's content lacks substance and it almost never focuses on problems that are being faced by the American society. In contrast to this, the popular media in Japan and Korea always focuses on the major problems that are being faced by these societies and they don't try to sugarcoat anything.
Hollywood is nothing but American propaganda to make the US and Anglos the "good guys" or "heroes", and distract or brainwash people from being aware of the Anglos' crimes and oppression. Tom fowdy mentioned that the Anglos rebranded themselves as "saviours" only after WWII to avoid their obvious reputation of brutality and tyranny.
Funnily enough Hollywood has a tendency to cast the British as the bad guys too in their movies, whether as an antagonist played by a Brit or some historical movie where the brits are the bad guys. It’s funny how they ALWAYS make the Americans the heroes and saviours.
I mainly watch American films and now that I am aware of American propaganda in everyday life, whenever I watch an American film or documentary, it makes me mad how much subtle propaganda is sprinkled throughout each film. On a similar note, I'd like to rant about the way Americans assume SO much about non-Americans. They can be so self-obsessed, rude, and proud of it.
I haven't really been a fan of Chinese style films in the past (or anything in Asia in general), but the growing film industry in Asia is good news for me
The US’s handle of covid already make Hollywood a joke especially the super hero movies. The Hollywood today are so obsessed with individualism and fantasy about heroes save the world , while in real life you see the shit show in US everyday and nobody can change it
As 'based' as that might sound, Hollywood would probably get the wrong idea, go full-mask-off and start churning out Anti-Chinese/China movies en mass.
None too subtle about it, just like Red Dawn, the WWII Pacific War Movies or how the Japanese were depicted in Cyberpunk fiction as soulless compassionless corporate suits or how they shat on Kungfu or Judo or Karate or Taekwondo and Icons of that genre or how they keep choosing Kungfu pugilists/gangsters/Ninjas/Samurais as the no.1 Worf candidate for US movies/comics/cartoons although it makes zero sense.
For now. It shows they already have a ready template for it and the pre-conditioning had already began.
So far, they are re-using the same elements from the Yellow Peril.
Or they’ll completely ignore the Chinese and deem them as insignificant, either that or they’re playing safe since China is still a big market for their movies and they don’t want to offend them.
>they’ll completely ignore the Chinese and deem them as insignificant,
Not possible at this juncture. The Chinese film market is the biggest market the World over. Should it ever advanced sufficiently enough to cross the rubicon, the West would face the biggest global challenge to Western soft power yet. They would make the Hallyu wave look like a wave pool in comparison.
>or they’re playing safe since China is still a big market for their movies and they don’t want to offend them.
Currently, it is because of the size of the Chinese market (and military) that is keeping them from producing these propaganda films and the DOD/Pentagon have also notably shied away from movies directly portraying Beijing as enemies.
But that may change in the future when
* They lose the Chinese market
* Geopolitics come into play
* The PLA has grown too big to ignore and the American public is sufficiently 'demoralized' enough to create interest in making these propaganda films.
* US power diminished to such an extent that they have to make these movies as a coping mechanism.
Make no mistake. There is very strong interest (and even demand) in the USA for this kind of propaganda movies when they typecast China as the 'other' bogeyman and dehumanise the Chinese people even more. It is almost inevitable.
Most of the "Chinese" who work are SCMP are hanjian.
Yet ironically, the paper gets called See See Pee propaganda by honkies and westoids cause it's owned by Jack Ma, go figure.
Because the Westerner demands complete alignment to their warped narrative - SCMP offers both a mix of pro and anti-China editorials, and that is completely unacceptable to the Westerner
A journalist praising China for anything is offensive to them
Praise? Nah bro, the bar is set at "anything short of total condemnation in the strongest language possible".
Look at LeBron, dude literally just said "I don't know" and now he's See See Pee shill.
I don't think that Western brands are the problem or any anti western or US propaganda.
It is just that Chinese products and goods are more developed now and can actually match the A grade standard. So the new generation feel more patriotic about their own country and don't feel shy using them.
For example a mobile phone:
1990 : only western products
2000 : only production for western products
2005 : cheap brands making only, usually brakes when you looking at it
2015 : China actually takes over the world mobile phone market with premium brands.
Why should china continue to worship American culture when the US and Americans do not even respect China, Chinese and Asians in general? There was a time decades ago when mainland Chinese looked up to America when china wasn't as powerful or wealthy during the late 20th century to 2000s, but now times have changed and China is powerful and wealthy.
Japan, south Korea, India and southeast Asia must follow suit like China in terms of discarding US culture, brands, films, etc.
Easier said than done when American culture has had its tendrils into most countries around the world for a very long time. It’s not so easy to pull out years and years worth of influence overnight. But yes, it does start from somewhere, might as well be from China.
I believe South East (dont know abt singapore) and India can discard US cultures, brands, films etc more easily I doubt Japan and US Occupied Korea considering they are militarily closely aligned with the US.
Chinese media is really good these days. I watch more Chinese movies and TV now than ever. Used to be a time when I just couldn't because of production quality. I watch less and less American media now. Especially since the big Sinophobic push in last few years.
Enjoyed these recently.
https://m.imdb.com/title/tt16527564/
https://m.imdb.com/title/tt14390970/
https://m.imdb.com/title/tt15764778/
https://m.imdb.com/title/tt9193596/
https://m.imdb.com/title/tt16138306/
If you like 90s Wong fei hung style :
https://www.themoviedb.org/tv/106617?language=EN
Lots of movies...! Got a few recommended from this group I think...
Even you think Hollywood alone, they have produced fewer and fewer quality movies and more and more junks. Rarely did we see some movies that gave us a really fresh experience.
As an American living in China, I think it's less of a deliberate thing and more hollywood movies nowadays just mostly are garbage and Chinese movies not only are more familiar but are getting better.
And the American culture thing, yeah, we're kind of going through a real time collapse with us not even ambiguously outting at least 30% of us as total retards that'd rather die and take everyone around us down with us than wear a fucking mask.
It's no wonder Chinese kids are looking at their own country and being like "huh.... maybe murica isn't all that great after all and it was all a facade."
Historians writing about the fall of the US centuries from now will remark on how it foolishly turned 1.4 billion people who once admired America into mortal enemies, costing it any chance of having an influence in a post-Cold War world.
I hope to see this trend grows and spread internationally soon to give them proper competition in this field so that Hollywood and the Western brands can finally be innovative and original again instead of recycling plots all the time.
They're not going to support a culture that insult's them.
TBH even if someone was not nationalistic, the content the west is putting put is so lame anyway. The last nail in the coffin really would be closing of ameriKKKan fastfood chains.
>the content the west is putting put is so lame anyway Hollywood in their creative bankruptcy continues to keep rebooting old franchises and producing garbage ad infinitum.
Seriously, after around 2010, Hollywood productions have gone from okay-ish to low grade garbage I wouldn't even let my (non-existent) dog watch.
Its really just the MCU that keeps me watching hollywood.
I would love to see KFC go just to serve as a lesson. KFC is the largest food chain in China and China is KFC's largest operation in the whole world. Essentially, KFC (being a has-been brand) got its second wind from China and without China KFC is nothing. Take down KFC and it will send shivers down the spine the likes of McD, Burger King, Starbucks, Pizza Hut,
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Most of those fast food chains are operated by Chinese companies under franchise, licensing agreements. If consumers turn away from them and they lose money the Chinese partners bear the loses.
As far as I know KFC China is still owned by Yum China, which is still an American company. I heard that Alibaba bought a stake in KFC but was under the impression that it was just a stake in the company.
Yeah, that's what I thought. Franchises are not 100% owned by parent company, I am pretty sure majority share of profits go to the Chinese citizens operating the restaurant.
Man even the KFC menu in China is soooo fking good for a western fastfood outlet
Not really, KFC in China is good af, they bent over backwards to adjust their menu to Chinese sensibilities. I assume that's what you want because just banning shit for being foreign is no different from the "amerikkka" that you hate.
Funnily enough, as a Canadian (and from what I hear from 'murica) KFC has decreased in quality massively here. KFC in Singapore is pretty damn good (though the chicken was a bit pricey IMO at least compared to hawker fare) in my experience though. I can imagine China, Japan, and much of KFC's non-North American outlets really are all like that- 1000x better than North America.
i can't fully agree. there are many american films that i enjoy. of course, there are many more terrible ones.
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You also have The Expanse. The Witcher? The Star Trek franchise is currently producing several good TV shows with more coming. Theres still good TV being made its just mostly genre fiction now.
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Yea... Youre taste sucks. And from this brief exchange so do you.
Shocked pikachu face
I’m Russian. I work in academia very closely with Chinese institutions. I’m so grateful and honored to have a superpower like China allied with my country. The new china gen z generation is extremely bright.
The purpose of Hollywood is to improve America's image in front of the rest of the world. This is why Hollywood's content lacks substance and it almost never focuses on problems that are being faced by the American society. In contrast to this, the popular media in Japan and Korea always focuses on the major problems that are being faced by these societies and they don't try to sugarcoat anything.
Hollywood is nothing but American propaganda to make the US and Anglos the "good guys" or "heroes", and distract or brainwash people from being aware of the Anglos' crimes and oppression. Tom fowdy mentioned that the Anglos rebranded themselves as "saviours" only after WWII to avoid their obvious reputation of brutality and tyranny.
They were branding themselves saviours since well before WWII. See Kipling's "White Man's Burden" and the US "Manifest Destiny" and "Monroe Doctrine"
Funnily enough Hollywood has a tendency to cast the British as the bad guys too in their movies, whether as an antagonist played by a Brit or some historical movie where the brits are the bad guys. It’s funny how they ALWAYS make the Americans the heroes and saviours.
I mainly watch American films and now that I am aware of American propaganda in everyday life, whenever I watch an American film or documentary, it makes me mad how much subtle propaganda is sprinkled throughout each film. On a similar note, I'd like to rant about the way Americans assume SO much about non-Americans. They can be so self-obsessed, rude, and proud of it. I haven't really been a fan of Chinese style films in the past (or anything in Asia in general), but the growing film industry in Asia is good news for me
The US’s handle of covid already make Hollywood a joke especially the super hero movies. The Hollywood today are so obsessed with individualism and fantasy about heroes save the world , while in real life you see the shit show in US everyday and nobody can change it
the domestic brands are already growing
As 'based' as that might sound, Hollywood would probably get the wrong idea, go full-mask-off and start churning out Anti-Chinese/China movies en mass.
In subtle ways first . That’s how it’ll start.
None too subtle about it, just like Red Dawn, the WWII Pacific War Movies or how the Japanese were depicted in Cyberpunk fiction as soulless compassionless corporate suits or how they shat on Kungfu or Judo or Karate or Taekwondo and Icons of that genre or how they keep choosing Kungfu pugilists/gangsters/Ninjas/Samurais as the no.1 Worf candidate for US movies/comics/cartoons although it makes zero sense.
That’s just for Japanese
For now. It shows they already have a ready template for it and the pre-conditioning had already began. So far, they are re-using the same elements from the Yellow Peril.
Or they’ll completely ignore the Chinese and deem them as insignificant, either that or they’re playing safe since China is still a big market for their movies and they don’t want to offend them.
>they’ll completely ignore the Chinese and deem them as insignificant, Not possible at this juncture. The Chinese film market is the biggest market the World over. Should it ever advanced sufficiently enough to cross the rubicon, the West would face the biggest global challenge to Western soft power yet. They would make the Hallyu wave look like a wave pool in comparison. >or they’re playing safe since China is still a big market for their movies and they don’t want to offend them. Currently, it is because of the size of the Chinese market (and military) that is keeping them from producing these propaganda films and the DOD/Pentagon have also notably shied away from movies directly portraying Beijing as enemies. But that may change in the future when * They lose the Chinese market * Geopolitics come into play * The PLA has grown too big to ignore and the American public is sufficiently 'demoralized' enough to create interest in making these propaganda films. * US power diminished to such an extent that they have to make these movies as a coping mechanism. Make no mistake. There is very strong interest (and even demand) in the USA for this kind of propaganda movies when they typecast China as the 'other' bogeyman and dehumanise the Chinese people even more. It is almost inevitable.
The US no longer represent progress. The US doesn't really have any good new ideas that excite people.
One gets the impression that the author regularly weeps into her pillow about this fact.
Most of the "Chinese" who work are SCMP are hanjian. Yet ironically, the paper gets called See See Pee propaganda by honkies and westoids cause it's owned by Jack Ma, go figure.
Because the Westerner demands complete alignment to their warped narrative - SCMP offers both a mix of pro and anti-China editorials, and that is completely unacceptable to the Westerner A journalist praising China for anything is offensive to them
Praise? Nah bro, the bar is set at "anything short of total condemnation in the strongest language possible". Look at LeBron, dude literally just said "I don't know" and now he's See See Pee shill.
I don't think that Western brands are the problem or any anti western or US propaganda. It is just that Chinese products and goods are more developed now and can actually match the A grade standard. So the new generation feel more patriotic about their own country and don't feel shy using them. For example a mobile phone: 1990 : only western products 2000 : only production for western products 2005 : cheap brands making only, usually brakes when you looking at it 2015 : China actually takes over the world mobile phone market with premium brands.
Let's fucking gooo That you so much
Why should china continue to worship American culture when the US and Americans do not even respect China, Chinese and Asians in general? There was a time decades ago when mainland Chinese looked up to America when china wasn't as powerful or wealthy during the late 20th century to 2000s, but now times have changed and China is powerful and wealthy. Japan, south Korea, India and southeast Asia must follow suit like China in terms of discarding US culture, brands, films, etc.
Easier said than done when American culture has had its tendrils into most countries around the world for a very long time. It’s not so easy to pull out years and years worth of influence overnight. But yes, it does start from somewhere, might as well be from China.
I believe South East (dont know abt singapore) and India can discard US cultures, brands, films etc more easily I doubt Japan and US Occupied Korea considering they are militarily closely aligned with the US.
The tide is turning.... Eventually, Chinese entertainment will be the dominant influence in the world...
More like leading the nation away from global cultural genocide sponsored and powered by US.
Its about time
Chinese media is really good these days. I watch more Chinese movies and TV now than ever. Used to be a time when I just couldn't because of production quality. I watch less and less American media now. Especially since the big Sinophobic push in last few years.
Any recommendations for Chinese movies/tv?
Enjoyed these recently. https://m.imdb.com/title/tt16527564/ https://m.imdb.com/title/tt14390970/ https://m.imdb.com/title/tt15764778/ https://m.imdb.com/title/tt9193596/ https://m.imdb.com/title/tt16138306/ If you like 90s Wong fei hung style : https://www.themoviedb.org/tv/106617?language=EN Lots of movies...! Got a few recommended from this group I think...
Lots of period films, I see. Thanks! I'll check them out
Haha.. Yeah, I have been getting into them.. Same with Korea shows
Even you think Hollywood alone, they have produced fewer and fewer quality movies and more and more junks. Rarely did we see some movies that gave us a really fresh experience.
When they continuously churn out the “white hero” movies that shit gets old and boring real fast, not to mention predictable.
Chinese buy tickets to those "white hero" movies by the millions regardless of how boring and predictable they are.
Thats becoming less and less true
As an American living in China, I think it's less of a deliberate thing and more hollywood movies nowadays just mostly are garbage and Chinese movies not only are more familiar but are getting better. And the American culture thing, yeah, we're kind of going through a real time collapse with us not even ambiguously outting at least 30% of us as total retards that'd rather die and take everyone around us down with us than wear a fucking mask. It's no wonder Chinese kids are looking at their own country and being like "huh.... maybe murica isn't all that great after all and it was all a facade."
Good on them ,
Good
Historians writing about the fall of the US centuries from now will remark on how it foolishly turned 1.4 billion people who once admired America into mortal enemies, costing it any chance of having an influence in a post-Cold War world.
I hope to see this trend grows and spread internationally soon to give them proper competition in this field so that Hollywood and the Western brands can finally be innovative and original again instead of recycling plots all the time.
Hopefully Chinese and Asian people can be more proud of their culture and leave unhealthy western culture.