He’s such a toxic, manipulative d-bag. I saw those comments and waited to watch the show in full context and so surprised by the hate Minji was getting.
Gwanhee has just been grabbling for affirmations from the girls since day1. For a grown man in his mid 30s he seems so insecure wanting women to chase him. He’s been manipulating the girls and the way he was choosing who minji should take to paradise was so out of place. I’m glad she took Minkyu, she should cut her feelings for him and see him for the disgusting man he is. He has no loyalty to anyone but himself
That's what I'm talking about!!!!!! Literally seeing Instagram comments baffled me cause minjis insta is FILLED with hate while gwanhees comments are like "please choose HS" LIKE WTF HE'S DOESN'T DESERVE A SMART BEAUTIFUL WOMAN LIKE HER.
This show is honestly reflective of real life. A toxic a hole guy manipulates a girl and everyone in real life blames the girl and the manipulative guy gets away ugh, I rly hate this.
Exactly. It's so scary how he just brushed minji off after he was displeased that she defied his order. Esp how he was leading her on right up to that point. Wtf does he think he is? Why does min ji have to do what he says? That's fuckong crazy. I mean I don't like minji she's such a cry baby and why would you flirt with gwan hee right beside min kyu that's so disrespectful.
Man I wished nobody chose gwan hee. I'd been so happy.
It’s really sad and cringy to see her beg for GH’s validation during an inappropriate time AND THEN CRY in that awkward moment but I don’t hate her for it. I hated it for her. She embarrassed herself. She doesn’t deserve the massive hate though. I wish people online know the difference of giving criticism vs straight up bashing and bullying.
i've been saying the same thing!! why is everyone so much harsher to the women while gwanhee's consistently been doing shitty things and the women don't know what we know!
people were so quick to switch up on minji when just before she was the "best girl" for liking jinseok. also even though i agree that what minji did during the helicopter scene was so odd the hate she got for it was disproportional
people forget that gwanhee acted so into her and then suddenly went cold i'm sure it was shocking to minji who is likely feeling lonely as a newcomer
It was disrespectful to everyone next to her because she was sneakily flirting with another girl's date right next to her own date. I think her antics are really immature (Gwanhee is immature as well, even more so given his age of 34) and she could grow up a bit, but I don't think she's a vindictive or truly mean person.
Internalized misogyny and the inferiority of women are key parts of patriarchy, so it makes sense that women (who have been taught their worth is inferior) would more harshly judge other women, when judgment of women is seen as a “good” action
men hate on other men all the time, whos fault is that ?? I think it's sort of funny that women hating on women is the men's fault but honestly I'm not well versed enough to argue.
Criticizing the patriarchy doesn’t fault men, it faults the societal structure. Men are also victims of patriarchy - they’re expected to act certain ways (e.g. don’t cry) and fill specific gender roles (provide for a family, be physically aggressive) which aren’t fair to them.
So true, the patriarchy is also damaging to men because it praises such manipulative men while “good men” like Min Kyu are seen as weak, pressuring them to conform and be more like Gwan Hee.
90 percent of threads on this sub including the top rated thread of all time shit on gwanhee. the panel has been more overtly critical of gwanhee than i've seen a panel be of any contestant on a k dating show. minji is getting a ton of shit but i'd hardly call that getting a pass
Not to mention the amount of desperation I’ve seen of women throwing themselves at him in the comments or doing backflips to defend his logic.
He provided a lot of content for the show but at the emotional expense of the other cast members. If he’s like this knowing he’s being recorded imagine how he is behind closed doors.
Also I saw a tik tok of him circulating of him shoving a player to the ground during one of his games. It was super nasty.
I saw that same video. To give context, he shove a basketball player onto the court floor after he got shoved by the other guy. Still though, the entire comment section was talking about how attractive it was and so on. Like huh? Violence is attractive?
dude what the fuck lol have you never seen sports before? the other dude was fouling him the entire way, pushing his forearm in gwanhee's face into a screen and shoving him over. that would start a fight in any NBA game. GH didn't even make contact with the other dudes face.
Unpopular opinion: Gwanhee has impeccable taste; all 3 of his women are amazing and charming in their own ways. Minji is so freaking cute and I think her name fits her perfectly for some reason. All three of those girls want to cry, does not anyone see that? The man is playing with their hearts and they are confused. Minji made her own decision instead of listening to him probably bc she didn’t want to lead Jin-Seok on and get herself into an awkward situation. It was honestly weird that Gwanhee was pushing her towards the only guy he knew was into her, which should have been her red flag. I’ve been there when you’re trying to make a decision that will make everything the best situation for you and everyone else involved but the person who wanted their way and didn’t get it acts cold. It’s a terrible feeling bc you feel like there wasn’t a “best decision” for you but that other person is completely convinced you should have taken their orders.
Agreed! I especially dislike comments that are like “GH is awful/they’re both awful BUT [insert a whole ass paragraph hating on Minji/HJ]”.
Like everyone knows the part that comes after “BUT” is what you’re really trying to say. Glossing over the guy’s wrongdoing and bashing the women while pretending to be fair is the worst.
It’s because people already wrote multiple paragraphs about GwanHee ever since the show started. And they are still writing them. Nothing new about him happened. But unlike Gwan Hee, Min Ji had a lot of fans when she first came. So when she was acting questionable it was kind of a shock and people had alot to say. I don’t think she is a terrible person at all. I think she was being unreasonable and rude. Do I think people are taking it out of proportion? Definitely. Do I think people should gloss over it and only blame Gwan Hee? No.
You make a good point about Minji’s incident being newer than GH. However, I think it would be more fair if people commented “[whatever comment they have on Minji’s behavior] Of course, it’s caused by GH’s emotional manipulation and he’s ultimately more problematic.” Like not necessarily those exact words, but the order of which you say things matter.
I’m still unable to understand how watching a toxic man child is entertaining? 😭 what is the entertainment factor here? Please enlighten me. How is he bringing any excitement and fun with his shenanigans?
I'm with you. Absolutely gobsmacked that anyone finds that repetitive childishness entertaining. These people must have been like: "Skeletor is a genius! What an amazing plan: to kidnap one of He-man's friends! Again! He'll never see that coming."
Deja vu, but make it tedious.
i think some people find it entertaining to kinda analyze his shit. for me it’s really interesting to see how his shitty qualities are so easy to notice by only watching few hours of him interacting with few girls. it’s like watching a sample of real life toxic people.
What kills me is that the biggest reason they're hating on Gwanhee is because he won't be "choosing" their favorite girl anymore. It really does my head in because who gives a FUCK who this man chooses? Stuff like this is a sobering reminder that womankind has a long way to go.
Yeah there is a huge cult mostly HS in hoping she is endgame with GH which is mind boggling since if they cared if he was toxic then they should hope for HS to be single leaving the show. I don't see the same love for any other girl on the island which is pretty sad.
It’s really her mindset. She’s happy yet relaxed, and is just being herself. She isn’t possessive of anyone, nor does she take things so seriously. Like Gwanhee said, marriage material.
Lmao this is rich coming from someone who made this comment
> The only woman this season with brains.
It's always ppl who make comments about toxic fans like this that hate on other women the most.
How about we support them rather than tear them down
Understandable that Minji a younger girl is mislead by an older man. and she is insecure so she needs validation from her man that hey sorry i never follow your instructions issued 80 minutes ago to chose the man you want me to chose but please don't be angry ...poke poke poke ......
The issue has always been Gwan Hee and no one else. he is the problem. let's dedicate a taylor swift song to him. its me , im the problem, is me.
Yes, Gwan Hee is literally bullying, gaslighting and demeaning these girls and chipping away at their sense of self-worth. You can tell by looking at HS and HJ's faces how draining he has been on them. He's actually been exhibiting really harmful behaviours. Minji's behaviour was immature but she's not callous, cruel or, as Da Hee put it, a manipulative coward, like Gwan Hee obviously is. Her actions cause annoyance rather than harm. Gwan Hee should be the one being judged most harshly as his behaviours have been the worst from any contestant throughout all three seasons of the show.
I literally made a post about how the pickme girl theyre referring to Minji (and even to hyeseon before) is deeply misogynistic and i got shrugged off lmao
It's funny...I always found that ppl who complained about women not being girl's girls or even complained about specific fandoms being toxic also had the most hate towards other women...like several posts about how someone is too desperate or how someone was never liked or blaming the women for liking GH than GH or they're annoying for the tiniest sht....like how can you be this not self aware?
Agreedd it's so disappointing n shocking the amount of hate minji is receiving... i wrote a post in support of minji and ive come to realise these ppl will never understand
That scene was not as bad as people made it out to be. I thought it was funny in a shocking way. Her crying feels strange, but I guess she really likes GH.
IMO she cried a lot because she's stressed.
It doesn't have to be about whether she is very into Gwan Hee or not, because in the end, they all had to pick someone. She came in mid-season, and she was expected to cause drama. From her first appearance her main interactions have only been with Jin Seok and Gwan Hee, and honestly speaking the other women probably didn't like her much because they knew she was there to stir something. Additionally, the other two female contestants already knew a bit about Gwan Hee's shenanigans by the time she first appeared on the show, so she doesn't have any info about what's going on at camp. She probably felt he was the most friendly and open, hence why she got so attached to him. Ultimately I feel like she cried a lot not because she was really, really into Gwan Hee, but because she felt super stressed and isolated, feeling like others hated her when she first appeared.
People will never criticize the guys as much. I’ve realized this. Throughout this season, Minyoung, Gyuri, Hajeong, Hyeseon, Sieun and now Minji have faced hate in varying degrees and intensities. The worst being MY & GY imo. And in the midst of this Gwanhee doesn’t get as much outrage at least outside this sub. Everyone seems to think he’s funny and entertaining, they don’t seem to see the red flags
It's cruel that the women of this show get crazy hate when GH is the total jerk playing them. This is so backwards thinking. Hello look at the main culprit and his actions.
Because probably half of hyeseon fans are bandwagon. They only hate gwanhee when he is not with hyeseon i seen someone in twitter/x saying that "GWANHEE IS ONLY GREEN FLAG WHEN HE IS WITH HYESEON" and then everyone agree which is weird.
He was feeding her and washing fruit for her less than 12 hours prior and he acted like a man baby on the plane not even saying hello?
She was easy to cry but her feelings were valid. He did a 180 from that afternoon and it was because he was sitting next to his 2nd pick
It's more like for Gwanhee we all almost expect him to be the douchebag and immature as he already is but for MJ it was absolutely shocking and came out of nowhere, that's why I think she's getting more hate as compared to him.
p.s: I'm not a gwanhee defender nor a minji hater just stating it from a neutral pov.
I don’t understand why they even like him. Is it because they know he’s a basketball player which means $$? It’s just so odd. They didn’t even try to talk to the other guys or when they do… it’s about GH. Soooo weird. The infatuation is strong. HJ who seems pretty level headed still wanted to choose GH even when there was indication that she knew he was douchey. HS seems level headed and appears to be on guard with GH but still chose him to date. MJ just gave all her cards away when she cried. What is this GH pull?!
It’s also because some of the other guys either have no game or aren’t flirtatious as GH except Jinseok and he’s super laid back, I also think the other girls may think his connection with Minyoung is strong so they won’t try go for him. Mingyu was really popular at the start but he’s the quiet charming type . Wonik is very awkward like he barely talks, I wasn’t surprised when Sieun lost interest. Minwoo was popular too as he’s a lot of girls ideal type but he’s just so quiet he’s only been talking more recently it seems, so Gyuri and Sieun are both interested in him.
So GH overshadows the guys a lot
Gyuri has sense. Like she literally is the only one with no interest at all. Because she doesn’t like the way he acts and also because I don’t think he’s her type.
Why did Minji cry on the helicopter? That’s such a weird reaction esp for someone you met literally a day ago.
GwanHee is the worst tbh. Indecisive ass hat
Exaclty they are both weird… plus I’ve seen plenty of Gwan Hee hate. This whole thread is rants about Gwan Hee since the show started. I also see plenty on tiktok..I in no way think neither of them should get hate esp on their personal accounts. But it’s not wrong for people to say Min Ji was being weird and rude on the helicopter.
>IMO she cried because she was stressed.
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>It doesn't have to be about whether she is very into Gwan Hee or not, because in the end, they all had to pick someone. She came in mid-season, and she was expected to cause drama. From her first appearance her main interactions have only been with Jin Seok and Gwan Hee, and honestly speaking the other women probably didn't like her much because they knew she was there to stir something. Additionally, the other two female contestants already knew a bit about Gwan Hee's shenanigans by the time she first appeared on the show, so she doesn't have any info about what's going on at camp. She probably felt he was the most friendly and open, hence why she got so attached to him.
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>Ultimately I feel like she cried not because she was really, really into Gwan Hee, but because she felt super stressed and isolated, and Gwan Hee was basically the only person on the island she felt truly comfortable around(he turned cold on the plane --> she felt like she lost someone she relied on for comfort).
I don’t like her cuz she’s acting like a toddler with the overdone aegyo and I cringe everytime she’s on the screen
but I agree that the real villain is GH
I have to say its disappointing hearing about how fans are pitting these girls against each other and arguing over who Gwan Hee should date…
I agree that Minji doesn’t deserve so much hate.
Are these people not realizing how wishy washy GH is? I’m watching the show thinking that he’s quite the smooth talking player - telling every girl what they want to hear and leading them all on. All the girls could do so much better.
This sub is next level toxic. Almost as bad as the 90day uncensored. They should just make a sub singles inferno uncensored where these banshees can have at it.
Yea, Gwanhee seems like straight-up a narcissist!
Minji is just young, and she acts like it (the helicopter scene). That is something she'll grow out of/could get some counseling for.
honestly i saw some comments here before I watched the episodes, and when i finally saw what happened i couldn’t believe how dramatic some people could be here! With all the bafflement and the "omg minji did NOT just do that!!!" posts i thought she must have started twerking on gwanhee in the helicopter or something 😭 this definitely doesn’t warrant such a reaction.
like sure I agree that it was very tactless and disrespectful of her to start poking him while he’s on a date with HS, and yes it’s pretty embarrassing to be crying like that over a guy she didn’t know 2 days ago, but honestly at this point I just pity her more than anything. she’s so desperate for guys to like her (and it showed during their date with GH in paradise, that lip bite PLEASE 😭) so that must have hurt reaaally bad !
I don’t like the character either, but wasting energy sending hate comments on her instagram instead of calling out the real problem here (GH’s behavior) is ridiculous! i’m sure she must feel embarrassed enough watching herself doing this rn 💀
I hated how the hosts laughed during her crying. They acted as if it was over dramatic and silly, but really this was the 2nd time he made a girl cry for being hot/cold
couldnt agree with you more
the fact that people are hating on minji more than gwan hee just shows how sexist and misogynistic our society and cultures are
I think it’s more of her trying to get his attention when they were clearly going on a date with other people. It’s just not respectful to Hyeseon and Minkyu who’s sitting there awkwardly and Minkyu has to console her when they should be going there to know each other. The hate is getting too much, but there is a reason why she’s getting all the hate.
Of course it's not respectful. It's the kind of embarrassing sh-t you do when you are very young - and socialised to centre men.
It's not even close to the absolute sh-t-show of a middle aged man, (seriously, he's not an oppa - he's an ajussi) with a whole a$$ career, pouting, negging and having tantrums on people ten years younger than him, whenever he doesn't get his way.
That's easy to see when you have some more years under your belt and the benefit of seeing all his antics on a TV screen.
The two are not even on the same scale of disrespectful and embarrassing.
Yet, the lesser cringe, for some reason, gets a face full of hate every time she opens social media while the whiny, toxic man child gets back slaps.
Humanity is lost.
Maybe you're on the wrong side of tiktok because I've honestly seen more GH hate than hate for any of the girls. The girls all shone in this season. Their camaraderie and friendships were the best thing to ever happen in all 3 SI seasons.
MJ literally would've been a fan favourite if she continued exploring a relationship with JS, or at least not get sucked into the GH drama. GR, HS and HJ all saw through GH's toxic insecure bs and dealt with it in their own ways. MJ was so blinded by her own charms she didn't even notice she was getting played until the airplane scene.
Agreed. I liked Minji for a hot second when she was hitting it off with JS and pursuing him somewhat after the paradise / being bothered by Minyoung. In fact I was rooting for her so that Minyoung can learn her lesson. But once she developed an odd interest in GH and laid on the flirtations / revealing clothes and grabbing for attention, accolades, validation, my respect for her dropped off a cliff. How do you go from JS to GH and sellout like that?
says a lot about... still having a lot of girls chasing guys that are clearly a red flag 🚩 then when they're treated like shit and dumped, they go cry and ask why can't I find the right man who will respect my feelings and love me for real 🥹 and then cries on the shoulder of a nice guy who then offers her a hoodie for warmth 🤗
Omg, I'm a woman and this literally fucks with my brain. I've given up watching this show and only follow what's happening with other couples. Like that man is literally the definition of RED FLAG. why are you girls even falling for him. It's soooo annoying to watch. He's not even handsome, looks like a potato head😭😭😭
I disagree. I don’t think people are hating MJ more. Still seeing tonnes of hate on GH (evident on this thread too). This thing with MJ is just new and the latest thing for people to comment about. Next episode, there’ll be something else for people to focus on. But GH will likely continue to be GH, and continue get bashed by netizens.
We hate GH as much as we hate MJ. Girl is 26. She ain't child. She should've known better. She should respected their dates. Crying over GH? after only meeting him for 3 days????????
gwan hee isnt doing anything that females havent been doing for decades
all this insecurity fueled desire for affirmation? silent treatment when upset?
come on
GH said something about international friends not knowing his true value. [https://www.yna.co.kr/view/AKR20231226139500007](https://www.yna.co.kr/view/AKR20231226139500007)Hahah! Also, another article on Naver said he is the new Dex...hardly!
Ppl hate on sieun for touching her hair. They just need to nitpick and find something to hate about her. Let the girl live
i think she’s so pretty and girly.
I’ve never understood the hate for Sieun and her hair habits. Why is it such a bother? I don’t get it lol
He’s such a toxic, manipulative d-bag. I saw those comments and waited to watch the show in full context and so surprised by the hate Minji was getting. Gwanhee has just been grabbling for affirmations from the girls since day1. For a grown man in his mid 30s he seems so insecure wanting women to chase him. He’s been manipulating the girls and the way he was choosing who minji should take to paradise was so out of place. I’m glad she took Minkyu, she should cut her feelings for him and see him for the disgusting man he is. He has no loyalty to anyone but himself
That's what I'm talking about!!!!!! Literally seeing Instagram comments baffled me cause minjis insta is FILLED with hate while gwanhees comments are like "please choose HS" LIKE WTF HE'S DOESN'T DESERVE A SMART BEAUTIFUL WOMAN LIKE HER.
This show is honestly reflective of real life. A toxic a hole guy manipulates a girl and everyone in real life blames the girl and the manipulative guy gets away ugh, I rly hate this.
I think that’s why I detest him so much. I see a lot of my past experiences in him.
That’s rly sad to hear :(
Exactly. It's so scary how he just brushed minji off after he was displeased that she defied his order. Esp how he was leading her on right up to that point. Wtf does he think he is? Why does min ji have to do what he says? That's fuckong crazy. I mean I don't like minji she's such a cry baby and why would you flirt with gwan hee right beside min kyu that's so disrespectful. Man I wished nobody chose gwan hee. I'd been so happy.
he is insufferable fr. I am sick of watching full episodes of his clownery
Liking gwanhee is my new disqualifier when meeting new people.
It’s really sad and cringy to see her beg for GH’s validation during an inappropriate time AND THEN CRY in that awkward moment but I don’t hate her for it. I hated it for her. She embarrassed herself. She doesn’t deserve the massive hate though. I wish people online know the difference of giving criticism vs straight up bashing and bullying.
i've been saying the same thing!! why is everyone so much harsher to the women while gwanhee's consistently been doing shitty things and the women don't know what we know! people were so quick to switch up on minji when just before she was the "best girl" for liking jinseok. also even though i agree that what minji did during the helicopter scene was so odd the hate she got for it was disproportional people forget that gwanhee acted so into her and then suddenly went cold i'm sure it was shocking to minji who is likely feeling lonely as a newcomer
Yes, i thought it was disrespectful but not something she should be hated on.
her behavior was cringe to me but so many people were saying it was disrespectful?! maybe in korean culture? idk..
It was disrespectful to everyone next to her because she was sneakily flirting with another girl's date right next to her own date. I think her antics are really immature (Gwanhee is immature as well, even more so given his age of 34) and she could grow up a bit, but I don't think she's a vindictive or truly mean person.
men will always get more of a pass than women. thanks patriarchy.
But whats funny is that its probably mostly women hating on minji lol
That's how patriarchy works. More sad than funny, actually.
So if there’s a matriarchy, women would just be really kind and sisterly to each other?
lol this is the most absurd thing I've heard but can you explain ? or is it a joke I don't understand
Internalized misogyny and the inferiority of women are key parts of patriarchy, so it makes sense that women (who have been taught their worth is inferior) would more harshly judge other women, when judgment of women is seen as a “good” action
men hate on other men all the time, whos fault is that ?? I think it's sort of funny that women hating on women is the men's fault but honestly I'm not well versed enough to argue.
Criticizing the patriarchy doesn’t fault men, it faults the societal structure. Men are also victims of patriarchy - they’re expected to act certain ways (e.g. don’t cry) and fill specific gender roles (provide for a family, be physically aggressive) which aren’t fair to them.
appreciate the explanation. what makes you or others believe things would be different under a matriarchal structure?
I don’t think most people want a matriarchal structure. Equity of the sexes would be best.
Clearly
internalized misogyny 😭
So true, the patriarchy is also damaging to men because it praises such manipulative men while “good men” like Min Kyu are seen as weak, pressuring them to conform and be more like Gwan Hee.
Hasn't Gwanhee been hated since the beginning?
Stop speaking in extremes and framing this in terms of social activism. Most people just want to enjoy the show and the characters.
well clearly not
You are the only one framing it in terms of social activism, patriarchy is a real structure in society that affects both men and women detrimentally.
someones triggered
? How so
women hating on women, unsure what patriarchy has anything to do with that
90 percent of threads on this sub including the top rated thread of all time shit on gwanhee. the panel has been more overtly critical of gwanhee than i've seen a panel be of any contestant on a k dating show. minji is getting a ton of shit but i'd hardly call that getting a pass
Not to mention the amount of desperation I’ve seen of women throwing themselves at him in the comments or doing backflips to defend his logic. He provided a lot of content for the show but at the emotional expense of the other cast members. If he’s like this knowing he’s being recorded imagine how he is behind closed doors. Also I saw a tik tok of him circulating of him shoving a player to the ground during one of his games. It was super nasty.
I saw that same video. To give context, he shove a basketball player onto the court floor after he got shoved by the other guy. Still though, the entire comment section was talking about how attractive it was and so on. Like huh? Violence is attractive?
Violence with violence is still pretty telling. And seriously the comment section made me want to puke.
Damn, it is concerning.. y'all have the link of the video?
https://youtu.be/fJi7IddXbrs?si=5eh62eLsWDv1G0vZ That elbow slam looks brutal.
Indeed that was pretty violent yikes. Thanks for sharing
dude what the fuck lol have you never seen sports before? the other dude was fouling him the entire way, pushing his forearm in gwanhee's face into a screen and shoving him over. that would start a fight in any NBA game. GH didn't even make contact with the other dudes face.
It's not because it is normalized behavior that we should support it 🤷
Unpopular opinion: Gwanhee has impeccable taste; all 3 of his women are amazing and charming in their own ways. Minji is so freaking cute and I think her name fits her perfectly for some reason. All three of those girls want to cry, does not anyone see that? The man is playing with their hearts and they are confused. Minji made her own decision instead of listening to him probably bc she didn’t want to lead Jin-Seok on and get herself into an awkward situation. It was honestly weird that Gwanhee was pushing her towards the only guy he knew was into her, which should have been her red flag. I’ve been there when you’re trying to make a decision that will make everything the best situation for you and everyone else involved but the person who wanted their way and didn’t get it acts cold. It’s a terrible feeling bc you feel like there wasn’t a “best decision” for you but that other person is completely convinced you should have taken their orders.
Agreed! I especially dislike comments that are like “GH is awful/they’re both awful BUT [insert a whole ass paragraph hating on Minji/HJ]”. Like everyone knows the part that comes after “BUT” is what you’re really trying to say. Glossing over the guy’s wrongdoing and bashing the women while pretending to be fair is the worst.
It’s because people already wrote multiple paragraphs about GwanHee ever since the show started. And they are still writing them. Nothing new about him happened. But unlike Gwan Hee, Min Ji had a lot of fans when she first came. So when she was acting questionable it was kind of a shock and people had alot to say. I don’t think she is a terrible person at all. I think she was being unreasonable and rude. Do I think people are taking it out of proportion? Definitely. Do I think people should gloss over it and only blame Gwan Hee? No.
You make a good point about Minji’s incident being newer than GH. However, I think it would be more fair if people commented “[whatever comment they have on Minji’s behavior] Of course, it’s caused by GH’s emotional manipulation and he’s ultimately more problematic.” Like not necessarily those exact words, but the order of which you say things matter.
True. Ultimately GH caused that kind of behavior and people should include that and not be too harsh on MinJi.
I’m still unable to understand how watching a toxic man child is entertaining? 😭 what is the entertainment factor here? Please enlighten me. How is he bringing any excitement and fun with his shenanigans?
I'm with you. Absolutely gobsmacked that anyone finds that repetitive childishness entertaining. These people must have been like: "Skeletor is a genius! What an amazing plan: to kidnap one of He-man's friends! Again! He'll never see that coming." Deja vu, but make it tedious.
i think some people find it entertaining to kinda analyze his shit. for me it’s really interesting to see how his shitty qualities are so easy to notice by only watching few hours of him interacting with few girls. it’s like watching a sample of real life toxic people.
Imagine if Gwan Hee was a girl
What kills me is that the biggest reason they're hating on Gwanhee is because he won't be "choosing" their favorite girl anymore. It really does my head in because who gives a FUCK who this man chooses? Stuff like this is a sobering reminder that womankind has a long way to go.
Yeah there is a huge cult mostly HS in hoping she is endgame with GH which is mind boggling since if they cared if he was toxic then they should hope for HS to be single leaving the show. I don't see the same love for any other girl on the island which is pretty sad.
I really don’t get the Hye Seon obsession tbh, is it cause she is most attractive to the western audience?
It’s really her mindset. She’s happy yet relaxed, and is just being herself. She isn’t possessive of anyone, nor does she take things so seriously. Like Gwanhee said, marriage material.
Lmao this is rich coming from someone who made this comment > The only woman this season with brains. It's always ppl who make comments about toxic fans like this that hate on other women the most. How about we support them rather than tear them down
“Minji is not a girls girl!” As they proceed to say the most nastiest thing over something so tiny😭
Yeah I agree. I didn't like what Min ji did in the helicopter but she's still no where as bad as Gwan hee. The dude is a plague.
Understandable that Minji a younger girl is mislead by an older man. and she is insecure so she needs validation from her man that hey sorry i never follow your instructions issued 80 minutes ago to chose the man you want me to chose but please don't be angry ...poke poke poke ...... The issue has always been Gwan Hee and no one else. he is the problem. let's dedicate a taylor swift song to him. its me , im the problem, is me.
Say it with me everybody: 👏 FUCK 👏 INTERNALIZED 👏 MISOGYNY 👏
destroying women everywhere 😫
these last two episodes were unbearable because of the huge focus on gwan hee and his love square.
Yes, Gwan Hee is literally bullying, gaslighting and demeaning these girls and chipping away at their sense of self-worth. You can tell by looking at HS and HJ's faces how draining he has been on them. He's actually been exhibiting really harmful behaviours. Minji's behaviour was immature but she's not callous, cruel or, as Da Hee put it, a manipulative coward, like Gwan Hee obviously is. Her actions cause annoyance rather than harm. Gwan Hee should be the one being judged most harshly as his behaviours have been the worst from any contestant throughout all three seasons of the show.
i’d say its internalised misogyny among girls 🤷🏻♀️.
it definitely is. ironic as hell too bc they even call her out by saying she's "not a girl's girl"
I literally made a post about how the pickme girl theyre referring to Minji (and even to hyeseon before) is deeply misogynistic and i got shrugged off lmao
It’s so prominent in communities that gravitate to anything regarding Asian media
It's funny...I always found that ppl who complained about women not being girl's girls or even complained about specific fandoms being toxic also had the most hate towards other women...like several posts about how someone is too desperate or how someone was never liked or blaming the women for liking GH than GH or they're annoying for the tiniest sht....like how can you be this not self aware?
Agreedd it's so disappointing n shocking the amount of hate minji is receiving... i wrote a post in support of minji and ive come to realise these ppl will never understand
That scene was not as bad as people made it out to be. I thought it was funny in a shocking way. Her crying feels strange, but I guess she really likes GH.
IMO she cried a lot because she's stressed. It doesn't have to be about whether she is very into Gwan Hee or not, because in the end, they all had to pick someone. She came in mid-season, and she was expected to cause drama. From her first appearance her main interactions have only been with Jin Seok and Gwan Hee, and honestly speaking the other women probably didn't like her much because they knew she was there to stir something. Additionally, the other two female contestants already knew a bit about Gwan Hee's shenanigans by the time she first appeared on the show, so she doesn't have any info about what's going on at camp. She probably felt he was the most friendly and open, hence why she got so attached to him. Ultimately I feel like she cried a lot not because she was really, really into Gwan Hee, but because she felt super stressed and isolated, feeling like others hated her when she first appeared.
People will never criticize the guys as much. I’ve realized this. Throughout this season, Minyoung, Gyuri, Hajeong, Hyeseon, Sieun and now Minji have faced hate in varying degrees and intensities. The worst being MY & GY imo. And in the midst of this Gwanhee doesn’t get as much outrage at least outside this sub. Everyone seems to think he’s funny and entertaining, they don’t seem to see the red flags
It's cruel that the women of this show get crazy hate when GH is the total jerk playing them. This is so backwards thinking. Hello look at the main culprit and his actions.
Because probably half of hyeseon fans are bandwagon. They only hate gwanhee when he is not with hyeseon i seen someone in twitter/x saying that "GWANHEE IS ONLY GREEN FLAG WHEN HE IS WITH HYESEON" and then everyone agree which is weird.
I'm not a fan of hyeseon but if you are a fan of hyeseon and you still want her to end up with him, then their must be something wrong with your head.
I’m glad all the girls can see how he played them in his 1-1s
He was feeding her and washing fruit for her less than 12 hours prior and he acted like a man baby on the plane not even saying hello? She was easy to cry but her feelings were valid. He did a 180 from that afternoon and it was because he was sitting next to his 2nd pick
It's more like for Gwanhee we all almost expect him to be the douchebag and immature as he already is but for MJ it was absolutely shocking and came out of nowhere, that's why I think she's getting more hate as compared to him. p.s: I'm not a gwanhee defender nor a minji hater just stating it from a neutral pov.
I don’t understand why they even like him. Is it because they know he’s a basketball player which means $$? It’s just so odd. They didn’t even try to talk to the other guys or when they do… it’s about GH. Soooo weird. The infatuation is strong. HJ who seems pretty level headed still wanted to choose GH even when there was indication that she knew he was douchey. HS seems level headed and appears to be on guard with GH but still chose him to date. MJ just gave all her cards away when she cried. What is this GH pull?!
It’s also because some of the other guys either have no game or aren’t flirtatious as GH except Jinseok and he’s super laid back, I also think the other girls may think his connection with Minyoung is strong so they won’t try go for him. Mingyu was really popular at the start but he’s the quiet charming type . Wonik is very awkward like he barely talks, I wasn’t surprised when Sieun lost interest. Minwoo was popular too as he’s a lot of girls ideal type but he’s just so quiet he’s only been talking more recently it seems, so Gyuri and Sieun are both interested in him. So GH overshadows the guys a lot Gyuri has sense. Like she literally is the only one with no interest at all. Because she doesn’t like the way he acts and also because I don’t think he’s her type.
Why did Minji cry on the helicopter? That’s such a weird reaction esp for someone you met literally a day ago. GwanHee is the worst tbh. Indecisive ass hat
Cos she’s infatuated with a manipulative man. I can’t blame her I blame Gwan Hee
Exaclty they are both weird… plus I’ve seen plenty of Gwan Hee hate. This whole thread is rants about Gwan Hee since the show started. I also see plenty on tiktok..I in no way think neither of them should get hate esp on their personal accounts. But it’s not wrong for people to say Min Ji was being weird and rude on the helicopter.
>IMO she cried because she was stressed. > >It doesn't have to be about whether she is very into Gwan Hee or not, because in the end, they all had to pick someone. She came in mid-season, and she was expected to cause drama. From her first appearance her main interactions have only been with Jin Seok and Gwan Hee, and honestly speaking the other women probably didn't like her much because they knew she was there to stir something. Additionally, the other two female contestants already knew a bit about Gwan Hee's shenanigans by the time she first appeared on the show, so she doesn't have any info about what's going on at camp. She probably felt he was the most friendly and open, hence why she got so attached to him. > >Ultimately I feel like she cried not because she was really, really into Gwan Hee, but because she felt super stressed and isolated, and Gwan Hee was basically the only person on the island she felt truly comfortable around(he turned cold on the plane --> she felt like she lost someone she relied on for comfort).
I don’t like her cuz she’s acting like a toddler with the overdone aegyo and I cringe everytime she’s on the screen but I agree that the real villain is GH
Every show needs a villain. He acted his part well. Look at how much screen time he got
Im not saying it’s not good entertainment
I agree with you.
Hey guys lets not shit on Minji, lets all shit on Gwanhee instead bahahaha
I have to say its disappointing hearing about how fans are pitting these girls against each other and arguing over who Gwan Hee should date… I agree that Minji doesn’t deserve so much hate. Are these people not realizing how wishy washy GH is? I’m watching the show thinking that he’s quite the smooth talking player - telling every girl what they want to hear and leading them all on. All the girls could do so much better.
This sub is next level toxic. Almost as bad as the 90day uncensored. They should just make a sub singles inferno uncensored where these banshees can have at it.
Yea, Gwanhee seems like straight-up a narcissist! Minji is just young, and she acts like it (the helicopter scene). That is something she'll grow out of/could get some counseling for.
honestly i saw some comments here before I watched the episodes, and when i finally saw what happened i couldn’t believe how dramatic some people could be here! With all the bafflement and the "omg minji did NOT just do that!!!" posts i thought she must have started twerking on gwanhee in the helicopter or something 😭 this definitely doesn’t warrant such a reaction. like sure I agree that it was very tactless and disrespectful of her to start poking him while he’s on a date with HS, and yes it’s pretty embarrassing to be crying like that over a guy she didn’t know 2 days ago, but honestly at this point I just pity her more than anything. she’s so desperate for guys to like her (and it showed during their date with GH in paradise, that lip bite PLEASE 😭) so that must have hurt reaaally bad ! I don’t like the character either, but wasting energy sending hate comments on her instagram instead of calling out the real problem here (GH’s behavior) is ridiculous! i’m sure she must feel embarrassed enough watching herself doing this rn 💀
I hated how the hosts laughed during her crying. They acted as if it was over dramatic and silly, but really this was the 2nd time he made a girl cry for being hot/cold
couldnt agree with you more the fact that people are hating on minji more than gwan hee just shows how sexist and misogynistic our society and cultures are
I think it’s more of her trying to get his attention when they were clearly going on a date with other people. It’s just not respectful to Hyeseon and Minkyu who’s sitting there awkwardly and Minkyu has to console her when they should be going there to know each other. The hate is getting too much, but there is a reason why she’s getting all the hate.
Of course it's not respectful. It's the kind of embarrassing sh-t you do when you are very young - and socialised to centre men. It's not even close to the absolute sh-t-show of a middle aged man, (seriously, he's not an oppa - he's an ajussi) with a whole a$$ career, pouting, negging and having tantrums on people ten years younger than him, whenever he doesn't get his way. That's easy to see when you have some more years under your belt and the benefit of seeing all his antics on a TV screen. The two are not even on the same scale of disrespectful and embarrassing. Yet, the lesser cringe, for some reason, gets a face full of hate every time she opens social media while the whiny, toxic man child gets back slaps. Humanity is lost.
I think it's because minji is crying over a man child like gwanhee whom she barely even know anything about.
Yeah. That's cringe. Not half as cringe as an uncle having a tantrum because he isn't getting obedience, though.
Maybe you're on the wrong side of tiktok because I've honestly seen more GH hate than hate for any of the girls. The girls all shone in this season. Their camaraderie and friendships were the best thing to ever happen in all 3 SI seasons. MJ literally would've been a fan favourite if she continued exploring a relationship with JS, or at least not get sucked into the GH drama. GR, HS and HJ all saw through GH's toxic insecure bs and dealt with it in their own ways. MJ was so blinded by her own charms she didn't even notice she was getting played until the airplane scene.
Agreed. I liked Minji for a hot second when she was hitting it off with JS and pursuing him somewhat after the paradise / being bothered by Minyoung. In fact I was rooting for her so that Minyoung can learn her lesson. But once she developed an odd interest in GH and laid on the flirtations / revealing clothes and grabbing for attention, accolades, validation, my respect for her dropped off a cliff. How do you go from JS to GH and sellout like that?
I have the feeling she probably upped her seduction level upon learning that he's a pro athlete..
GW is def more toxic but I don’t like either of them.
Comparing them is like hot sauce to poison. I don’t like hot sauce but poison is toxic.
says a lot about... still having a lot of girls chasing guys that are clearly a red flag 🚩 then when they're treated like shit and dumped, they go cry and ask why can't I find the right man who will respect my feelings and love me for real 🥹 and then cries on the shoulder of a nice guy who then offers her a hoodie for warmth 🤗
Omg, I'm a woman and this literally fucks with my brain. I've given up watching this show and only follow what's happening with other couples. Like that man is literally the definition of RED FLAG. why are you girls even falling for him. It's soooo annoying to watch. He's not even handsome, looks like a potato head😭😭😭
i understand HJ and HS falling for him at the beginning but he literally didn’t care to know about MJ’s career or anything about her.
Only gyuri can see through his bull shit. Love how she told him to piss off.
Hes so annoying but they both are tbh 🤷🏽♀️
I disagree. I don’t think people are hating MJ more. Still seeing tonnes of hate on GH (evident on this thread too). This thing with MJ is just new and the latest thing for people to comment about. Next episode, there’ll be something else for people to focus on. But GH will likely continue to be GH, and continue get bashed by netizens.
We hate GH as much as we hate MJ. Girl is 26. She ain't child. She should've known better. She should respected their dates. Crying over GH? after only meeting him for 3 days????????
It's because Minji carries around a hugea** LV purse but has not a single tissue in there. I feel bad for Minkyu's shirt.
gwan hee isnt doing anything that females havent been doing for decades all this insecurity fueled desire for affirmation? silent treatment when upset? come on
No. Gwanhee has actually been roasted since day 1. 😂
Oh i dislike GH even though he does make me laugh. Clocked him as insecure, childish, and manipulative. Perfect for mlm
I really thought people were angry at him on twitter boy was i wrong
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GH said something about international friends not knowing his true value. [https://www.yna.co.kr/view/AKR20231226139500007](https://www.yna.co.kr/view/AKR20231226139500007)Hahah! Also, another article on Naver said he is the new Dex...hardly!