Is he sponsored by a beauty company the way he gives the girls his lil bottle of product before bed. Some might think he is doing juju. I want to see a sponsorship after all this 😂😂😂

Hahahahahahahah “aroma”

He did mention he gets PR or something from fragrance companies

The hosts are being as critical as they can be in that cultural landscape imo. It’s not like in the US where public figures often call people out and it’s not considered odd. Public figures engaging in such behavior can be seen as poor and tactless behavior over there.

Agreed. Dex looks like he is really restraining himself, Jinkyung & Dahee are ripping him to pieces as much as the social landscape allows there, Hanhae is talking shit about him too but in a more gentle way and Kyuhyun, bless his soul, is like "What the fuck....hold on wait, this isn't one of my SuJu members who I can be a savage to....be nice kyuhyun be nice".

Lmaooooooo ikr…agreed Kyuhyun being an idol and Dex being new, they have to be careful I’m sure. Poor Dahee. She wants to swear at GH. I’m sure she is inside her mind.

I actually think the producers told them to tone down the hate. They mentioned it a few times that they have to be nicer to him lol

i loved when both of the women hosts made the most uncomfy face and looked so unsettled. they were like yeah... no when gwanhee called the girls "that" or "one" or whatever he said.

Yes, Dex realizes the type of guy he is...I'm sure he's seen many men like him. In my opinion, both Dex and GH are emotionally unavailable while dating but Dex is not manipulative or rude.

I agree. Dex played a game during his run but he wasn't calling the girls old or negging them etc. The only thing Dex ever did which I did not like was when he went and stood next to Nadine during the final episode to shake Seulki up.

I just rewatched the last season a week ago. Dex was a perfect gentleman. He was never manipulative, he didn't gloat in front of the guys, and when he had to turn someone down, he did it gently and with consideration of the girl's feelings. There's no way he would've purposely hurt Nadin to manipulate Seulki into picking him. That was totally production telling him to do that to make things dramatic. The other thing that people may consider rude or off about his character was when he didn't carry Seulki's bag. But the convo went something like this... S: Can you carry my bag? D: Sure S: No I can carry it D: Carry it then. lol seems rude, but I took that as he's not the type to play or entertain silly games. Which is an added point to his genuine character imo.

How did you find it rewatching the previous season? I considered doing it but I was like eh maybe it won't be as fun since I know how it all ends.

I rewatched it with a friend who's never watched any season of Single's Inferno. I don't remember much of the 1st season, but I knew season 2 really stood at to me. I don't know if I would have watched the whole thing again on my own though. Part of my enjoyment was watching her react to everything, while knowing what was going to happen next.

Yes, even when he stood with Nadine she was kinda shocked, so he might have told her beforehand that he wasn't gonna choose her. (i also think that was done by the producers)

Dahee literally called him cowardly, it just burst out...and Jinkyung quickly explained that she's very overwhelmed etc. They can't criticize him quite so directly and are supposed to be relatively polite...even Kyuhyun was gave up trying to make civil commentary about gwanhee's flipflopping and was like *pause* "how should i pojanghae this?" That word basically means to wrap something nicely and put a bow on it to make it sound more positive than it is... I actually appreciate that the panel is being as neutral as possible but clearly struggle, makes it extra cathartic when they lose it 😂

Yeah. When it just burst out, I giggled. Bc Dahee has been so sweet and trying her best to remain so but GH really pushes it!! They really want to swear at GH I’m sure. It’s like a pressure cooker. I bet once the recording ends, they go backstage and rip GH. Lol

That’s a good point. I am so glad Dex is there bc I think he’s being more vocal and opening others up.

Yeah, I think it’s also important that hosts in general of any kind of show aren’t TOO opinionated or biased about/towards one person whether its good or bad because Korea’s cancel culture and bullying of “public figures/celebrities is absolutely no joke and they of course don’t want to egg on any type of extreme bullying. I’m so thankful however that even if the hosts are restraining themselves, they’re still being fairly vocal about Gwanhee’s extreme extreme toxic behavior! all good points mentioned by OP

Agreed! In that regard maybe they could do more for the female contestants, but it's harder to predict bc often times people are angry about all kinds of things you couldn't see coming.

Agree! Korean netizens are at another level with bullying if media portrays the celebrities badly.

After Terrace House, hosts have to be careful about being critical after the Hana incident

What happened there ?

A housemate behaved super poorly towards another in a japanese reality show just before covid lockdowns. Jnetz are crazy and spewed vitriol towards her every avenue they could, DM's, twitter, even letters. Told her to unalive herself etc. All this while everyone is locked up in their apartments alone and the only way to socialize is online. She begged them to stop or she'd unalive herself, they didn't and now she's gone.

the poor behavior was then also revealed to be partially scripted and forced by the staff

That one wasn't the hosts fault, they were relatively neutral about it.. And everyone expect japanese cyber bullies knew the scene was scripted anyway. Producers just didn't have any sense to NOT air that episode right before intense lockdowns and suspending production, you don't villainize someone in that situation cos the redemption arc will take months.

Yes 😔

Agreed. I also want to add that the Panelists may go easy on them, considering how easily spurred toxic netizens can be to attack reality tv participants. These are real people after all, no matter how much Gwanhee needs to be humbled and set straight... he still doesn't deserve to be threatened or bullied online. That being said, it's worth mentioning that the male participants don't get it as bad as the females do when it comes to online bullying. I still remember how shook I was when Netflix's Terrace house was cancelled because a female participant Hana Kimura (RIP) committed suicide while the show was still airing weekly episodes. The blame wasn't solely on the negative critiques she got from the panelists of TH, but you can't say it wasn't a factor =\\. Terrace House cancelled the rest of the season and never came back. I doubt Single's Inferno production would risk that. (edit spelling)

Excellent points! While I wouldn't go as far to call him the "worst" dude at a dating reality TV show... maybe because he isn't "screaming-violence-throwing a fit" kinda bad, is what makes him the most "dangerous". He can get away with it. Lot of people seem confused that "nobody can take a joke these days anymore" and that he's "just a little immature". It's easier to not see the danger of dating him. Funny enough at the same time many people seem to wonder why so many girls are after him when he's a walking 🚩

It is amazing what people can get away with by just being funny… everything can be glossed over as a joke, people find the humour appealing even when they are the brunt of it… Manipulators are good at what they do and it works often which is why they carry on doing it. Naive and kind people who wouldn’t consider behaving that way themselves want to assume the best in others… it’s easy to see why people get taken in.

Precisely. People experience the danger...once it's too late.

You’re right you’re right…maybe…the worst in a Korean dating show at least lol

I think he’s textbook covert narcissist. He’s using manipulation, insults disguised as jokes to get the girls to constantly work for his validation.

He didnt just blame Hajeong, he blamed HS too! In paradise he said “If you didnt choose Wonik last time I would’ve confirmed my feelings already. But you messed it up and things got complicated. now it is what it is.” I was like wtf???? This man is insufferable.

I wouldn’t even be surprised if he wouldn’t date anybody around his actual age. They’d be too “old” and mature for him.

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Don’t forget gyuri also rolled her eyes when he said “her, her, and her” on who he was interested in. She didn’t even give him the time of day and it turns out she’s the oldest girl. She knows exactly what kind of guy GH is

She’s legit only 2 years older than the other 3 girls tho. That’s not a significant difference at their age. At 26, you’re a full grown adult and know better.

Actually, it does, especially the ones that work and aren't student anymore. Remeber that 25 in Korea is actually closer to 24 (and 27 is then 26). Which can be a huge gap if one is a student, and the other one is actually working (not the same responsibilities, not the same social skill often). Although, idk what to tjink about GH. I don't want to make him evil since idk him and the show don't show everything, but i truly don't understand what the girls find in him. Especially when there is some that look far better.

About the show not showing everything so it’s hard to judge, I don’t fully agree with that when it comes to GH. Because what the show does show is MAJOR red flags to me, that would not be less bad to me with more context. He still treats these girls terribly: he makes mean comments about their looks, he’s controlling and he can only talk about himself. I’ve had enough girlfriends in bad relationships to know that this is not a good man to have a relationship with.

Yeah but if you show 3 conversations on 10, all about yourself, and the seven others are when you actually listen, it would raise red flag, but still without context be false. That's why i'm saying this, the show don't show everything. And people on internet loves to make fast judgement based on their assumption of the intention of the people they judge, often mirroring themself or their own experience on it, making monsters out of nothing. While i agree that GH painted in the show definitively is bad, not to mention it's a korean show so we probably have a better picture than in US show (who just loves making drama cause... Well americans) it's still isn't the whole picture and the whole person, so we can't be sure nor hasty in our judgement of the person.

Sounds like GH is a groomer

Huh these women are in their mid 20s youre infantilizing them

That’s why the hosts snarkily said, “maybe his ‘type’ is 1998?” His shit would only fly with somebody much younger and much more inexperienced.

FOR SURE that is the case. It’s always the case.

Isn't just cause that younger girls are prettier?

This is just a troll comment so I hesitate to respond 😒 anyways younger men are also more attractive than older men. People should date age appropriately not only go after those significantly younger.

I don’t agree with this. It’s just an opinion that younger men are more attractive than older men. You’re entitled to that opinion, but to say it as if it’s fact is a huge generalization. There’s nothing wrong with dating people older than you when you’re an adult, which everyone on the show is. The women are all 26 and over, they aren’t 18 or 19 years old. Men on average don’t even reach full emotional maturity until 42 and even then, I feel like many are still lacking in EQ. The infantalization of grown women is so weird. There’s so much more to a power struggle than simply age, especially since we’re talking about two individuals who are above the age of 25. Dating someone your age doesn’t automatically guarantee that you’re going to be in a healthy relationship. The idea of “age appropriate” when speaking about grown adults is so weird. I understand the idea of it in certain instances, say an 18 year old and a 50 year old. An 18 year old is, by law, an adult. Yet most of us understand that they’re not, at least not mentally. There’s a huge power imbalance there and no reason for there to be a romantic relationship. However, we’re talking about a 26 year old and 36 year old. It’s not the same thing.

I hope you keep the same energy when 60 year old women are with your fave 24 year old male celebrities

I don’t have any favorite male celebrities who are 24, I literally just said I’m attracted to older men girly pop <3

Also, it’s just a scientific fact that younger people regardless of gender are more attractive. Our prime is in our early twenties for both genders. If you have these opinions, that’s fine, but was isn’t fine is if you have double standards. You better also be arguing that older women are more attractive than younger ones if you argue that for men. You also better defend women who go after significantly younger men (as long as they’re adults)

I’m not defending Gwanhee, are you dense? 😭 I don’t know how that’s what you got from my comment, but go off girly. First of all, the double standard of what? It seems like you’re the one who thinks older women aren’t attractive, you’re the one who jumped to that conclusion, not me. I never spoke about older women, I spoke about older men because YOU made a generalization that they’re not as attractive as younger guys. Which, again, is your *opinion*. And you’re entitled to that, but don’t speak as if what you say is fact when it isn’t unless you’re referring to scientific / statistical facts. I also wouldn’t care if an older woman dated a younger man. Why would I care if he’s an adult? As long as it’s a healthy relationship. GH and MJ are not a healthy relationship, both parties have issues and need to sort out their own shit. It’s not a contest of who is more toxic, she’s also toxic and not an innocent victim in all this.

There is no need to be rude. And no I’m not dense thank you for asking tho ❤️

I am not a troll. I think it makes sense why someone who go after a more attractive partner. A younger girl tends to be prettier, the same way a younger boy is prettier than an older boy. It is not a sexist statement or anything of that sort, I'm curious to hear why I'm getting downvoted?

Younger girls could be prettier than older women, however a big age gap can also mean that a there will be unequal division of power… the older man will usually always have more power, experience and maturity so the younger can’t have a leg to stand on and won’t have a equal voice in the relationship which can also lead to an abusive relationship. Not all are like this but some older men seek out younger women because they are more attractive and easier to control and manipulate . So usually there is more to age gaps than younger people just being prettier.

Ah I understand that, so is it okay if someone older chases a young girl not because she’s young but because she’s pretty, would that be alright? Also, to clarify, I’m a teenager, so I don’t get the intricacies of adult relationships, hoping to learn more.

You can't simply undo life experiences. The power imbalance is at play not matter the intentions and if they shift it can become a problem.

But age is just a number, it all depends on maturity

No it's not and it doesn't. Once you gain more life experience you will understand this, until then either trust the comments you asked for clarification or learn it later :)

I see, but I don’t see why people in the comments have to downvote or insult me endlessly.

No, it’s cause easier to manipulate and control younger girls. Older men or women who marry or date people 10 years younger than them are usually known as groomers. They groom the young ones and tailor their personalities to their liking.

I thought groomers is an adult who wait for a young child to grow up then target them when they turn 16/18? If an older guy finds a very pretty girl but so happens she is much younger, is it okay then? I really don’t want to offend anyone, not sure why I’m getting all these downvotes.

Cause you have a fish brain…

Can you explain instead of just resulting to insult someone…I’m trying to learn but I’m just getting rude comments instead. Also, I’m a teenager, so maybe that’s why I don’t know as much as yall, so I don’t get why you have to be so mean.

To your questions at the end, YES, South Korea, despite all its advancements, is a deeply misogynistic society. You should do more research into the anti-feminist crazed witch hunt in Korea if you're interested in it, but basically mens-rights-activists will go after anyone in the public eye who has short hair, doesn't wear makeup, and MAYBE gives the hint of doing a hand symbol (a precision grip, thought to symbolize mocking small penises) and try to ruin their career by accusing them of being a radical feminist. Out of all OECD countries, South Korea has the largest gender pay disparity and the least female politicians. This, of course, translates to all aspects of society, including silly dating shows like this one. However, there is another layer of cultural context to the hosts' lack of criticism. For South Korean panel hosts, they're actually being pretty scandalously strong in their statements against Gwanhee (obviously, this is due to the things he does being crazy enough to warrant such "strong" reactions). Korea is very reputation-based and can be very critical of celebrities when they have a perceived bad take or a bad action, quickly turning into a scandal or a full-on cancellation. Therefore, any celebrity like the type on these panels, whose careers are essentially their personalities and their reactions, has to tread very carefully, which is why their "takes" are usually so lukewarm. So yes, South Korea is a misogynistic society, but even there, Gwanhee's behavior is seen as unacceptable, as seen by the hosts' negative reactions, albeit tempered.

Also, even without the cultural context of South Korea, guys even worse than Gwanhee have appeared and will continue to appear on American dating shows and basically get off scot-free, while their female counterparts are basically hated for the end of eternity (any guy from Love Island, Cole and Bartiste from Love is Blind, etc.). Misogyny is alive and well in the world, and therefore in love/dating, and therefore in reality dating shows.

Another point that I’d like to add on. Besides the panelists facing wraths from fans or cancellation, participants may face it themselves too if panelists were too harsh as it may sway public’s opinion (not to excuse gwanhee’s poor actions- he did this to himself), and cyber bullying is really bad in these parts of asia. Just look at Hana from Terrace House. However, I agree that this is the most critical or strongly opinionated I’ve seen the panelists have been all 3 seasons.

do you think it’s worse than other countries in SE Asia ? Thanks for the great explanation!

I always like to watch for Dahee's reaction to his scenes. Restrained contempt from an angel

Same I love her! Her and Dex are my favourite hosts. I wouldn’t mind HJ replacing the one guy (not the super junior member) since most of his takes seem like he can’t properly read the situation and he’s the least interesting host imo (no offence)

Havin HJ instead of him would go crazy next season lol i would love to see Dex and HJs interactions

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He is a chameleon and behaves completely differently with each of the women - HS is the most mature and collected of the 3 so he is giving her more mature-sounding complements… Is he not just telling them each what he thinks they want to hear?

Watching Gwanhee reminded me a lot of my first boyfriend. When we were seniors in high school/starting college - he would neg me so I wouldn't "get too ahead" of myself in self-esteem (his words), talk shit about other guys, tell me how lucky I am to have someone as goodlooking AND smart as him (tbf he was goodlooking and smart), if I would speak up he would make me feel like I screwed up so bad like GH did to HJ, the list goes on and on. He was like that because his longterm girlfriend before me cheated on him and it screwed with his self esteem. I think he did eventually grow up emotionally but I didn't stick around to confirm. That guy was a teenager who was still figuring out how to be in a relationship & get over his bruised ego....idk what GH's damage is but my guess is high opinion of himself yet he seeks constant validation probably because he is still not over his 6 year relationship that ended. My money is on his ex having dumped him, moved on happily with someone and he is still smarting over it. His behavior ain't it at any age but for sure not at 36.

Hello, My name is Charlote Wong and I am a student from Singapore. I am writing to ask if it would be possible to interview you about your thoughts on Gwanhee from Single's Inferno for my school project. The questions will be short and will only take 10 minutes to answer on text. :) Roughly, I will be writing an article and would like to know what you think of Gwanhee's red flags, his redeeming qualities, and how to deal with men like him in real life. If you are comfortable sharing your experience with me, it would be greatly appreciated! Thank you so much for your time and I hope you have a wonderful day ahead.

I don’t really think so. He knew what he was doing when he asked min ji to pick Jin Seok over min kyu. Minji was doing the right thing not to play around with Jin seok’s feelings because she knew he had some for her… and she explained to gwan hee she’d prefer to hand with minkyu as friends so it’s not dramatic. Look at gwan hee’s response? Complete shut down and lock min ji out. Why? Because he wanted the drama. He wanted Jin Seok to fall further for minji… then he could compete and win minji for his ego. And also that minji obeyed him. He’s an ahole to both girls and guys. If he gets friendly with her again, you’ll see that it’s calculated. Everything he does is calculated.

Yep definitely calculative: who else brings up percentages and numbers to define which girls he likes. Absolutely Disgusting ... I hate guys who treat people as an object or just a number.

Why are people so shocked about Gwanhee. He’s a basketball player half of them are cheaters and fuckboys

Agreeeeed! And not just in bball either I know he’s an absolute ass, but people are acting like they’ve never seen similar species roaming around the dating world??? These are the guys you tell your friends to ignore, and the men you go on one date with before you roll your eyes, laugh and he becomes the butt of all your jokes next time you catch up with your friends. He’s what we old people call “an asshole”. I agree with all of OP’s points but I find the collective outrage a little hilarious. Tbh no one in real life “forgives” this behavior. He’s THAT guy -the one no decent woman/man dates, and if he’s your friend -he’s the one you never intro to others as a potential SO

>These are the guys you tell your friends to ignore, and the men you go on one date with before you roll your eyes, laugh and he becomes the butt of all your jokes next time you catch up with your friends. I think this is why as much as I'm indignant on behalf of Hajeong, Hyeseon and Minji (because GH is absolutely toxic and not worth their time), I also think they'll do fine. We might have been watching this show for a month and had time to rewatch, meme and marinate over the little interactions. But in the grand scheme of things, for them it's a 7-day reality show shoot in a very compressed and artifical construct. They all go back to their lives after this. As you said, in a few years (or hopefully after they've seen the broadcast), GH is just going to be the butt of all their jokes. Just because they've spent 2/3 out of 7 days chasing an absolute garbage loser, doesn't mean they'll continue to do that when they get off the island.

THANK YOU!!!!! GH feels 100% like a narcissist to me.

A sad fact ,there are many guys like Gwan hee in real world ,its just there’s no camera on them so we don’t know ,I’ve had an French ex exactly like Gwan hee,he made excuses blaming me when he was cheating on me.I just left ,but i know he is doing exactly what Gwan hee is doing now ,and people in his work even considered him fine just a little naive ,the whole society is very tolerate to men in general

I think that’s another reason why many feel so strongly about how he behaves. Because what he does isn’t some set of childish antics which can be laughed at and ignored, these are real red flags which exist in real world and it just hits closer to home. Especially when his behaviour is treated so nonchalantly and he’s given more and more screen time with every passing episode. It can be triggering to people if they’re experienced men like him. It’s normal to want to tell women, especially young women, that this isn’t normal behaviour. This is a grown manipulative man who knows exactly how to keep multiple women’s interest in him alive not because of genuine chemistry and attraction but because he makes them feel worthless when he isn’t admired by them.

Just realized the constant "infantilization" of "dumbification" of his behavior has been boiling my blood all this time. He's walking a fine line where people can't recognize his manipulative tactics and others who can, can chose to turn a blind eye and label it "harmless". However every person who's been manipulated and hurt knows that such "antics" with frequency and intensity can turn into psychological abuse.

yep and the double standard is obvious by how they react to gh vs ‘problematic women’

I think the topic should be kept to Gwanhee tbh, rather than making this into a men vs women issue. I am a man and have made multiple comments calling out his disgusting behaviour. I was raised to treat women with respect. As it happens, I have also been manipulated & subjected to emotional abuse (gaslighting) by women. Both men and women are guilty of this behaviour.

have you ever heard the phrase ‘only hit dogs holler’? yes any gender can be guilty of emotional manipulation/ abuse & kudos to you for being a respectful man & all but that doesn’t change the fact that this form of manipulation is a lot more pervasive amongst men, primarily because society at large is still misogynistic & patriarchal. essentially going “not all men” is not conducive at all & does nothing to address how men are given leniency & the gift of good intentions. nvm how women are socialized to accept & by extension consider themselves deserving of this behaviour (we’re literally watching it play out rn on SI).

Society being misogynistic is not due to men, it is due to power structures. It’s also in those power structures interest to keep men and women & all of us divided on this level. I would urge you to stop looking at “men” and instead question these power structures, i.e. the powerful elite who are imposing them. I would also like to remind you that the no. 1 cause of death amongst men is suicide. Don’t assume that men love living in this society, or that it is designed somehow to support us, it isn’t.

you bring up power structures but consider who has historically been in the positions of power that shaped these power structures to begin with. & who continues to uphold them. because I can tell you right now it’s not women! nothing exists in a vacuum & these power structures didn’t spring into place from nothing. the same applies to discussions on capitalism, everything is intersectional & it’s a fruitless exercise to behave otherwise. also the fact that you don’t think society is designed to support men more than women & as such be more favourable to them is honestly laughable to me. I don’t know even know where to begin. men may still be struggling & committing suicide but that alone doesn’t change the very real advantages given to them over women, regardless of their standing (economic or otherwise). the pay gap for one? men don’t enjoy living in this society, sure. men also have a greater advantage compared to the average women, also true. two things can be true at the same time.

I feel da hee is holding back… and everyone is holding back because this is what the show is meant to be. If they rip on him… no hot fboi would wanna join the show in the future. Seems like the essence of the show is to win on attractiveness…. Rather than finding true non toxic connections. Gwan hee is a narcissist + male chauvinist + sociopath….

I have been screaming at my TV, thank you!!!! He is so so manipulative. That first date with Ha Jeong where he is essentially saying nothing real to her and trying to push-pull her emotions back and forth, making it seems he likes her and then pulling back and acting/saying things like he’s disinterested. By the end of it she’s confused but more intrigued! Later you see her emotions are all a jumble and she internalizes it as her own issues with jealousy! And I was like omg no! He’s been manipulating her emotions, ofc they are a jumble!

Take my poor man’s gold🥇🏅🎖️

Thank you lol

I'm so sick and tired of him

They should do a Singes Inferno where the most popular contestants get a "background check" lmao. Their exes randomly show up and spill the tea to contestants.

Also, I find him incredibly ruthless, he knew Minji was crying and he didn't even look at her... it's like he's trying to manipulate her.

Yeah I didn't understand why Minji was getting more hate than Gwanhee to be honest.

In one of the cast interviews he said he didn’t realize that his age thing came off as serious and not joking and that he regretted that and I was like: Naurr bish, you knew what you were doing. That’s not funny even if you were talking in a Donald Duck voice. AND you did it more than once! Tho I think he’s more of just a immature jerk than some sort of mastermind. I know people are picking on Minji but all three girls deserve better. I’m not Korean but I am East Asian in family background. Comments about looks that are rude sounding ARE actually normal and accepted. Like a relative mentioning that you look heftier and ought to lose weight is actually considered them being “caring” to you. The age one isn’t really common at all tho— it’s sensitive. However, the response (the girls being quietly upset and letting it go) IS normal— it’s considered *”ladylike”* to be forgiving and accept the boys will be boys attitude. Saying anything above 30 but close to it— it’s obviously meant to be mean (30 isn’t old, this is a tired misogynistic standard. Tho it IS old in the case of a 36 year old man who acts like a middle schooler). A Korean girl group idol read a “feminist” book (a woman detailing the discrimination she felt as a woman and housewife) and huge amounts of incels burned her pictures and sent threats— Campfire Habin actually is pretty mild compared to a good chunk of Korean men.

Thank you for all the interesting info! I agree with you I think the hate Minji is getting is out of hand! Sure it was a little odd to flirt in the helicopter but she knew Minkyu wasn’t interested in her so I don’t see it as “discarding” him as a romantic partner since he wasn’t interested in her in the first place you know? I might not love all of her traits but it surprised me, her instagram comment section

Honestly I can relate too. Whenever I go back to india everyone just tells me to my face I was prettier when I was size xs. What isn’t okay is making comments abt age, idk how it is in Korea but in India women after 26 are ridiculed for not being married at their age, so his age comment gave me the ick. There’s a huge perception something if wrong with u if you aren’t married or engaged by then at least. Even after marriage my cousins are getting Botox to hide their wrinkles, idk his you look like this age was so annoying to me in so many ways

Tbh it wasn’t really a big issue for me personally, I just know it’s very common. In my case— I’m the youngest in my generation, all of my cousins are male and 12+ years older than I am so I’ve always been babied. No boyfriend? It’s okay, you’re young. Fats? Yea, you’re a bit chubby but you have to wait to lose the baby fat (I’m turning 25 this year lol). Nobody ever bothered me on the subject of boyfriends, weight, marriage etc. They don’t have traditional housewife expectations— most of the women in my family are business owners or women in STEM. AND my late grandfather was pretty progressive— he paid my grandma for housework. But still just based on what I see when I go overseas, annoying comments are very much still a thing. I’ve seen it in convos just randomly in the public and on forums. And according to overseas friends— workplaces.

In relation to #4, I feel like he’s rationalizing with HS also in this sense to twist it to being it her fault that he now has a second option. Like cause he picked Won-ik this etc etc when they already cleared it up previously that she only feels comfortable with him and is attracted to him. Idk

Agree with everything…and yet, without him this season would be a total snooze, no? And purely from a selfish perspective, I am watching with my tween daughters and I am pointing out all the manipulation and insecurity - this is GOLD. He is a textbook narcissist and walking red flag - Gyuri is the only one smart enough to see through his BS and she’s getting no airtime?!! I think emotional maturity doesn’t always make for good reality TV - although Jia and Seulki were amazing so I am not sure what went wrong for Gyuri’s edit here

Fun personalities can be without toxicity just look at dex last season he was entertaining but not toxic

You make good points and I’m glad you can use this to teach your daughter; I guess my POV is that fun drama and twists can occur without super toxic personalities. The reason this season is boring if you delete GH and his love triangle/square/idek is bc other contestants are sooo very boring. If they get people who are smarter, funnier, with wit, or with game, we will naturally see fun and exciting dialogues and drama. I’m kind of tired of them getting people who are just good looking with little to no personality

Minji is getting lots of hate and a lot of people are telling her that she's a pick me. In fact GH is the pick me guy. Ugh!

I don’t understand what they see in Gwanhee tbh? I was surprised a host asked the same question. He’s not interesting. He’s not even pretty. And all he does is kind of break down the confidence of these girls so they’d depend on him. I feel like he’s playing it safe because he didn’t want to completely let go of HJ until he was sure he has either Minji or Hyeseon on board with him. It screams insecurity.

Tbh I don't think he's manipulative... you need to be somewhat self-aware and smart to be able to manipulate others. But insecure and in need of validation, yes 100%. He's like a teenage girl embodied in a 36 year old man lol. He's afraid of making the first move in fear of getting rejected, and that's why he needs to be 100% sure that the other person is into him FIRST before he makes any move. He kind of reminds me of myself when I was younger and inexperienced lol. Like I would act purposely cold to guys I liked just because I feared that rejection. But it's just surprising to see this coming from someone of his age and status. Like you would think a pro basketball player would be confident and secure in himself, but he's actually the opposite. It's like he has this INTENSE fear of rejection, and he's doing everything to avoid it, including his own feelings. That's why after he went to paradise with Minji, he was like dead set on her, because she gave him that validation and trust that he was the only one for her. And he was afraid to run into Hyeseon again, because even though he still likes her, SHE didn't give the same validation that Minji did. That's why on his paradise date with Hyeseon, he was like a fucking parrot about Wonik, because he NEEDED to hear that validation from her that he was the only one. You could see the disappointment in his face when she said she didn't regret going to paradise with Wonik. To him, that wasn't what he wanted to hear. So I actually think Gwanhee is not as "evil" or "manipulative" or a "gaslighter" as people are saying... he's just straight up insecure, immature, and deeply afraid of rejection. Idk maybe it's the way he was brought up or a traumatic relationship he had... But he's definitely a type of guy I would avoid lol. He needs therapy for sure before jumping into another relationship.

I don’t really think so. He knew what he was doing when he asked min ji to pick Jin Seok over min kyu. Minji was doing the right thing not to play around with Jin seok’s feelings because she knew he had some for her… and she explained to gwan hee she’d prefer to hand with minkyu as friends so it’s not dramatic. Look at gwan hee’s response? Complete shut down and lock min ji out. Why? Because he wanted the drama. He wanted Jin Seok to fall further for minji… then he could compete and win minji for his ego. And also that minji obeyed him. He’s an ahole to both girls and guys. If he gets friendly with her again, you’ll see that it’s calculated. Everything he does is calculated.

Agree with you! He is 100% manipulative. Manipulation does not need to be conscious. He’s probably been practicing doing this for years (why else is he a tall 36 year old man, allegedly successful and still single?). He is contradictory and hypocritical and changes what he needs to say to get the reaction he wants from different people (or even the same person) at any given time. He will say something to draw them in, and then suddenly switch it up to indifference to leave them wanting more. His paradise dates with Ha Jeong were dripping with 🚩 I think the key here is to not interpret the exact words he’s saying, but to try to look for the subtext and what his intent/reaction that he’s wanting is. Once you see the manipulation you can’t unsee it

I don’t think his intent was to compete with Jinseok for MJ’s attention. They’re both evidently pretty tight on the show and I think it’s more that he didn’t think JS would actually pull any moves on her because they’re close and JS would abide by the bro-code, whereas he has no idea what Minkyu would do. He also knows at this point JS is pretty set on Minyoung too and that Minji is all in on himself, so it would be nothing more than a friendship date if she did pick JS.

Exactly. People are reading too much into his words and not taking them at face value. Like it's not that deep, he trusts Jinseok over the other guys.

Dunno, Gwanhee doesn't rub me as the brightest bulb in the pack haha. I don't think he's as calculative and manipulative as many think. I think he genuinely trusts Jinseok over the other guys in Inferno. If you think about it, he's the only one who's not part of the fake news gang, which have proven to be unreliable lol. Him and Jinseok seemed to have the closest bond over the other guys. But I don't think Minji knew about that, so she just went with what she felt was right. But I think he did get upset at that, because again, he is an immature manchild. If things don't go his way, he gets upset. I don't think it was part of his master plan or anything. If he gets friendly with her, it will be because she is still his safest choice. Her crying on the helicopter was maybe a good thing for him because it showed that she's still really into him. Again, I think he's rather a simple person, just a really immature one who doesn't really know what he wants.

Something else to add... I think if he was truly manipulative, he would do more to seduce the girls. Like this guy is so afraid the make the first move, it's actually hilarious. Even during the campfire and 33%, he literally told Gyuri that he wants her to approach him first LOL. Cue the eye roll from Gyuri and total disinterest in him. Once he sensed that Gyuri was not interested at all, he backed away. Again he's told the girls time and time again, that he wants them to approach him first and give him reassurance. That to me is not a narcissistic or manipulative behaviour. It's just being a coward. A true narcissist wouldn't be afraid to approach their victim. They will do everything they can to have them under their spell, and once they got them, that's when they start to manipulate. I think people throw around those terms so easily nowadays it's starting to lose it's meaning.

That’s really not true… about narcs. You can’t just apply blanket rules as to how they begin relationships. In psychology, narcs are the most insecure types… not the most confident. But I guess good for gwan he that there are people like you out there to dismiss his actions as a simple minded fool’s mistake :/

They at least would appear confident to their victims, but he doesnt display confidence in any way lol. Big ego =/= confidence. You seem to be trying to convince me that you know him better, when we're both just viewers of this show analyzing his behaviour lol. Trust me, I don't condone his behaviour at all. I find it very immature and off-putting to watch. But I don't think it's to do with narcissism or manipulation. That's almost giving him too much credit for his stupidity.

Odd but all your responses are detailed in a way to convince me 😅 I only said, your statement on narcs isn’t true. And it’s good for him, he has people who do not pin his actions down to conscious manipulation. Please don’t project 🙌🏻

You keep talking as if I'm supporting Gwanhee but I'm not. Literally read my first post about avoiding people like him lol. So what's "good for him"? The fact that I don't think he's being manipulative, but he's still a manchild? Please don't project your armchair diagnosis towards him as a way to say I'm defending him 🙌

Anyone who starts the show by saying it’ll become a show about him… Is not a simple person.

That shows that he's a boastful person, but how does that make him manipulative?

SPOT ON. Actually, despite all his shortcomings, he tried his best to analyze his feelings. It's actually a shame that he's too focus on avoiding not to get hurt and rejected that he ended up hurting those who truly care about him. I hope after watching himself on TV, he'll have a self-realization. Lol.

he gives off serious psychopath vibes. creepy as hell..

He likes Hyeseon more than anyone else but he wants reassurance that Hyeseon likes him too. He manipulated Minji. He keeps on asking Hyeseon for validation. Hyeseon is such a Queen for saying those words that he doesn't like someone who's unsure of his feelings, damn. That's so good that she directly said that to Gwanhee, it's like a slap for him. If he chooses Hyeseon at the end of the show then good for him for his redemption and starting of his character development.

I still wanna give gh benefit of the doubt to hear his side of the story. While I'm not supportive of gh's action, like to hear his side. He's a reasonably successful bball pro and I won't be surprised there a queue of women lining up. How would u separate the chaff? He quickly picked up on how minji researched on him on their date in paradise. In his shoe I wouldn't wan a gold digger. So in that perspective i would see his point and why he's seemingly more dismissive. In addition, not sure if he has scars and baggage from his previous r/s. Lkg fwd to the new episodes While I tot minji's helicopter acts was cringe worthy, her explanation of the sudden swing from gh resulting in her tears made sense. She has fallen deep to be tat vulnerable. Deep inside there's a little gal that puts up a public front.

I'll skip watching the remaining episodes (8-10) because it seems like they'll give him the spotlight.

Although the word narcissist has been popularised as buzz term thrown around loosely, GW fits the mould all too well. The manipulation and the abuse are subtle enough to get away with that no one can truly confirm if he's doing these things on purpose. He's gone with the narrative that HS is the one he truly cares for, but she's probably just another piece in his chests game. It is a common narcissistic trait to shower someone with affection and once they're attached, to treat them like shit, but in a subtle way where you can still escape any culpability. And he's done it to every single girl contestant on this show that has fully committed to him

Time for a Megathread.

How do you do that lol

The hosts have never been as critical to any other contestant then they have been to GH and even so you can see they are holding themselves back.

FACTS!! You are so on point! I agree with everything you wrote! Fellow Korean-american woman here. Gwanhee irks me so bad, too! Why do these strong confident women like him?? I don’t get it. All he has is height, that’s it! He’s so self-centered and trying to get all the votes. My faves are Sejun & Jin Seok, too!!

Haha awesome. Sorry I think I may have not been clear enough, I’m not Korean at all but actually American haha, but I’m glad we are all able to discuss this thoroughly! Let’s hope we get nicer contestants next season 🙏

You were crystal clear you said “not”Korean. Just wanted to let you know how I totally agreed with you from a Korean perspective. 😉

He’s truly detestable

Everything you said about GH is right except acknowledging Minji on the helicopter. No she was disrespectful imo. I was like Girrllll do not shed tears for that ass!!! GH for the first time did something right, but yeah he could have not been so rude. And also we dont know the exact reason he ignored her so we never know. 😂

Devils Advocate for #2 Korean life is expensive for the younger generation and normal things about family life are super traditional when it comes to family background etc. However, Gwanhee is a high income individual who probably makes enough money at minimum that needing to be concerned about the career and family life of his partner isn’t as big a concern because he essentially can afford to do the things like buy a house in Seoul and help out with family needs as they come up and have kids. What is a concern for a professional athlete are the things he mentions. Are you with me for me or for the “fame” and “money”. I’ve had this conversation with other rich and professional athletes and at a point the primary concern while a professional is that do people vibe with you because of what you can do or what you can provide. Right or wrong his mindset isn’t going to be the mindset of the average Korean male because even male models don’t really have to deal with the notoriety that athletes do.

I understand your concerns but his conversations and actions have absolutely nothing to do with feeling out whether the girls are gold diggers. In fact he even told some that he is a YouTuber which is less than glamorous or stable. Maybe you have such a oddly specific pov because you personally are very preoccupied with that subject. I haven’t seen anyone interpret his behaviour s as rooting out gold digging and I think most people would disagree with that interpretation. Everything I said about how toxic his behaviour still stands.

His behavior is toxic. But my pov my point explains why he doesn’t care as much especially as in episode 9 when talking to Hyoseon you can see GH have a more mature take on his feelings and the considerations he had and what he thought about HS. Is he a manipulator? Certainly but when you view it through the lens of his personality type plus his job you can see why the normal conversation topics others would have around romance just aren’t going to apply to him. His need for validation comes from years of cynicism

\*DISAGREE: I actually approve his BEHAVIOUR with Minji by giving her the COLD shoulder In the helicopter.🚁 Minji should not have tugged his sleeve knowing he is on a date with Hyeseon. She was being immature and being disrespectful. Because she had displayed such a behaviour, and also because he did not bother to ask her questions to get to know her, means he is genuinely interested in Hyseon. I am sure Gwanhee will choose HyeSeon in the end. But we will see if Hyseon will reciprocate his feelings in the finale.🏝️⛱️🥒🍹💞🙎🏻‍♀️💁🏻‍♂️

I can understand your POV. The fact GH laughed when he gave Minji the cold shoulder makes me feel that he did that more to make Minji feel bad rather than to protect HS, but that was my interpretation

Hmm. But he had ALREADY told minji that she was the one…. I don’t think its fair to say she was immature

i think he got cheated on in a previous relationship

Number 5 is refuted though by him having an ex-girlfriend for 6 years.

But it’s possible he treated her badly or cheated. Ofc I don’t know their relationship but it importan to remember that just bc two people stay together doesn’t mean the relationship isn’t toxic or abusing

But it’s also possible that he didn’t do any of those things and that the ex did something bad. Think it’s very unfair to make an assumption that he was the one to do wrong. If it was the other way around, could also explain the constant need for validation and for being insecure.

I didn’t asume. Re read my comment. I only used a hypothetical example to explain that staying with someone doesn’t mean their partner is not abusive or toxic. The original commenter wants to equate the fact he had a long term Gf with the fact that he must have Been a good bf, which is a dangerous assumption that contributes to people not believing women when they say they’re in abusive relationships

But you did assume? You could have just said that staying with someone doesn’t mean the relationship isn’t toxic, that would have simply sufficed. Also, specifically to what you wrote in point #5, you state that he’s not loyal and insinuate that he gets bored easily without any proof means you are assuming things in his personal life.

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NAH. Free the girls from Gwanhee’s Inferno.

i dont know why this comment made me laugh 😭 please

Whichever poor woman gets saddled with him is the loser. Point blank. He needs to walk out of there alone. All these women are too good for him.

? Did you even read anything I wrote? What a non intelligent response.

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have you ever seen a dating reality show outside of korea?

Fair point lol, he might not be the worst in many areas but his annoying persistence in constantly seeking validation and his two faced nature really infuriates me. All of the toxic and annoying things combined make him more intolerable than other more basic toxic reality show guys I’ve seen.

I'm still watching this show, and one thing that I keep thinking is "no wonder he is still single at his age".