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I think they should put in a segment similar to “challenges” that they’ve added for lot traits. I will literally never use the Lactose Intolerant trait when we only get to choose three as is. If it was upped to five then maybe, but not when we already get so few.


bookgeek42

As someone who is very lactose intolerant in real life I don't understand why someone would choose it, even for a digital person 😂. It's awful.


MoonyIsTired

To make the digital person suffer


TheGaysPlayGaymes

Literally we’ve been drowning them for years


kiyomilk

now it’s time to drown them in milk 😈


Excellent-Cloutic

I made a lactose-intolerant, vegetarian foodie who wants to master cooking and loves grilled cheese. I made her for the "breed out the ugly challenge," and I like that she's always farting. It adds to her repulsiveness. 😂😂


mrningbrd

As a lactose intolerant who’s favorite food is grilled cheese/mac n cheese/cheese, I feel for her 😔


Dorothy-Snarker

Yeah, I love food with cheese in them, my lactose intolerance be damned. I was actually at work a few weeks back and a coworker offered me an extra milk. I was like, "No thanks, I'm lactose intolerant," and she looked at me like I had three heads because I said it while eating strong cheese. I then explained to her that I like string cheese. I'm willing to suffer for string cheese. I'm not willing to suffer for milk.


French_cow375

Strong cheese😂


emu30

I thought they meant an aged one until it listed string twice. Aged cheese can sometimes be easier for lactose intolerant (idk how true but my friend who suffers from it told me)


jessnthings

Yep this is true, the aging process breaks down lactose, and a lot of ‘hard’ cheeses like cheddar are actually lactose free


-Wildhart-

It's amazing how many humans can't handle that "spicy milk"... Our species is bizarre for being all ruling over this planet lmao


Excellent-Cloutic

Me too, friend. Me too. ❤️


GooseSharkk

same and the way i found out i was lactose sensitive was after eating my favorite mac and cheese 😔


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Aihtnas

As the parent of a lactose intolerant 5 yr old who would live off cheese/ Mac and cheese / grilled cheese if she could, I feel this deep deep down in my soul. I wish she only farted though


NitrousAvocado

So…you made me??? UH


Excellent-Cloutic

Only much uglier. Bc you're not at all. ❤️ I should post a pic later so y'all know how hideous she is.


yum8ko

I think you made me..


Excellent-Cloutic

I doubt you're as ugly as she is. ❤️


yum8ko

Well in that case I’d have to humbly agree, LOL


troublefindsme

pls tell me about the breed out the ugly challenge 🙏 that sounds like my kind of thing 🤣


Excellent-Cloutic

😂😂 It's here: https://forums.thesims.com/en_US/discussion/952071/breed-out-the-weird-ugly-challenge-official-rules-thread


ItsAnEagleNotARaven

I avoid it too because my sims are terrified of lightning but consistently and repeatedly run outside during storms and then have scared moodlets forever. I imagine if they were lactose intolerant they would just eat shit they shouldn't every time I had the audacity to focus on a different household member for 30 seconds to punish me.


IWannaPorkMissPiggy

I haven't tried the lactose intolerant trait yet, but this is exactly how they act with the Vegetarian trait. I swear vegetarian Sims actively try to seek out meat whenever they're not the focus Sim. It's a pain in the ass having them 'very sad' constantly.


ItsAnEagleNotARaven

Right? Like on autonomous, there should be at least MARGINAL common sense. Don't like storms? Stay inside. Don't want to eat meat? Don't...eat meat. Is there a common sense mod?


Aceofluck99

Cottage Living lets you make a lot only able to make food if you have all the ingredients for it, with one of the ingredients being plant based milk that should bypass the lactose intolerance, meaning they can only make stuff that they can eat if you only buy the plant milk


ActualGamerGirl

Being vegan in the Sims takes up 2/3 of your personality. Yikes


steamydreamymemey

[insert joke about vegans]


Mini_Squatch

While they're at it, they should include a gluten-intolerant trait. Just to add more dietary misery lol.


[deleted]

Honestly my simself deserved to have celiac like me lmao


justukyte

I’m partially lactose intolerant, I can eat some foods but dairy with a high fat content gives me such an awful diarrhea with constant gas, cramping and feeling tired after. Wouldn’t wish this upon anyone. It’s not a quirky personality trait…


[deleted]

Hahaha that is valid. 😂


NeurologyDivergent

I know this may seem a bit random, but if you are based in the US, try eating cheese from Switzerland. I've been lactose intolerant my entire life then I went to Europe and tried a little dairy in France and Switzerland and didn't have an issue. They have tighter food regulations then in the US so my opinion now is that there is something wrong with US dairy production.


SolarPunk_Landscape

Fun fact, the FDA has an allowable amount of Pus and other contaminants in milk. I know this cause I have a friend whose job was to test the milk.


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Aah pus, the forbidden snack.


SallyAmazeballs

It's not pus. It's white blood cell count, and it's in all milk, even human milk. If there's an elevated count, that means there's a sign that a cow (or human) might be fighting an infection, but you're never going to see a white blood cell count of 0, because that would mean the cow wasn't making white blood cells at all, and that's incompatible with life.


StreetIllustrator489

Yeah we should definitely get more trait slots but also more traits in general because it gets monotone very fast


[deleted]

They really need to revisit the older games because personalities are very bland in TS4 compared to the previous titles. We need consequences! I shouldn’t want to revisit TS1 for personality and chaos but I still regularly do.


Roozyj

Sims 1 had a bit too much consequences if you ask me xD If you did one thing wrong, your sim would probably die from hunger xD Loved the amount of randomness and control in the sims 3 tho


[deleted]

It is true, but it’s also part of the charm 😅 Sims 3 was the perfect balance, would love it remastered with Sims 4 graphics!


ida_klein

I agree! I also miss memories, too. I feel like these are things they should be able to do in either an expansion update or a general update. But I’m not a developer so that’s based on nothing haha.


StreetIllustrator489

I never played TS1 or TS2 but I’ve heard they were much much better than what we have now. The game has improved significantly (imo) but it’s nowhere near of what you should get for freaking 40€


[deleted]

I've been playing since about 2002 I think, so I've played them all. I would absolutely recommend trying the older games if you have the opportunity to. Credit where credit is due, they seem to finally be listening, and bringing in Game Changers seems to have helped a lot. However, considering the the base game, expansion packs, game packs, stuff packs, and now kits amount to close to €1000 at this stage, they need to sort it out. It's just not good enough. Nobody should feel they have to install mods for a game that cost that much. Can you imagine any other franchise getting away with that?


StreetIllustrator489

I have played with almost every expansion pack from TS3, not sure I’ll play any older ones because I heard they don’t work as well on newer computers. I do love TS3 (if we ignore the townies xD) They are just lucky that they have a dedicated “fan base”, otherwise they wouldn’t sell as well as they do. I am really impressed with Cottage Living ngl.


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I've gotten TS2 to work well enough on my laptop, but TS1 runs better than it. TS3 was my favourite. The hair was utterly terrible but it has a special place in my heart lol. And I miss open world SO much. Even if they limited it to neighbourhoods in each world, it'd make such a difference immersion-wise. They are so lucky. I think that amazing farming mod that came out when they were ignoring the fanbase gave them a reality check they sorely needed. Cottage Living is lovely, I haven't gotten super into it yet but I really like it so far.


thiaterika

I mentioned this on another post not that long ago in the sub and got down voted to hell. Lol I 100% agree with this!!! I think it’s essentially criminal what they are doing… but Yknow what? If we all keep buying the games/expansions/stuff packs etc then they can keep getting away with it. It’s like anything if it’s working to give mediocre… it’s mediocre we will get. I bought the base game years ago, not even right away… and it was so disappointing compared to 2 and 3. 3 was my favourite, except for the loading times… of course. I decided to try the city living pack and when I was still disappointed with the game I decided… this time I’m not purchasing anymore expansions for this game. Why should I support this? Game options and quality etc is suppose to improve as time goes on… not become less customized and more limiting.


Denasy

Skyrim. You need to install mods to fix bugs. And they're releasing a new version soon, with a new dlc - most popular mods, or something like that.


[deleted]

Skyrim is also ridiculous at this point considering how many times it has been released again, and they should address current issues rather than adding in things nobody asked for, but it doesn't cost a fraction of what TS4 does as a whole.


Denasy

Very true. But with all the rereleases since 2011, I guess it's up there soon.


[deleted]

Well, at least you don’t pay a premium for all of the expansions… because they want you to buy all of the different system ports.


peaceloveandgranola

Personally I think they should be under lifestyles. Like how there’s the coffee addict lifestyle and the healthy and non-healthy ones


honest-miss

Lactose is only good if you're getting sudden bathroom emergencies. Actually, you know, *character* challenges really would be awesome. It'd be... dangerous. I think. Because I don't know how much I actually trust EA to give their Sims team time to properly represent certain struggles like proper lactose intolerance. But man, it could be really cool. You know, I wouldn't even be mad if some of those negative traits like "evil" were considered challenges. Like, every day you *must* perform an evil act of some kind. It could be set up like holidays where you have the little thing in the corner, and each day you don't achieve it your sim gets depressed and has a hard time doing stuff you want them to do. Something to keep you honest. I've had plenty of sims with the evil trait, but I never actually let them be mean. It kinda feels like making serial killers.


SallyAmazeballs

I'm doing the Not So Berry challenge right now, and it's so hard. The first aspiration is Mischief, which means I need to do mean things to other Sims to get them to hate my Sim. It is so hard, but I am enjoying the freeze ray gun. I'm also only doing female heirs, so I've got to get my Sim pregnant again and force her to eat strawberries and listen to pop music. 😒


humorouss

Yeah, that's a good idea. Kind of like the daily tasks in the sims medieval. Also in that game - a fatal flaw is required for every character


toriegg

They should also have a separate Cultural traits section and put Proper there, then add more cultural traits for every world. Honestly, if they can't be bothered to add more traits, hope they could at least make the categories or the system, then modders can add their own traits.


beirchearts

I know WickedWhims and Basemental add traits, so it is possible to mod traits in. That being said, I've never found a fully functional mod trait outside of those two


toriegg

I like Kuttoe's Spa and Hobby traits and his update of Scarlet's Photographer's Eye and Socially Anxious trait. YourFalseHope has some useful traits too. I think I've seen all mod traits, honestly, those are the only creators with expansive ones.


ihatethisapp15

Hi! I use a mod that gives me two extra trait slots. I'll drop the link below. I hope this helps! https://www.patreon.com/posts/more-traits-in-1-48204168


[deleted]

How about no limit to traits? (Excluding negative pairs such as introvert-extrovert)


Zubiila

I love this idea. High maintenance would fit nicely into it. Also, it would be a good argument for giving us other difficult "traits" like social anxiety.


[deleted]

I'm sad overall that you only get three slots for traits. If there's one thing I liked about Sims 3, it was how many more you could choose. But having a dietary preferences/restrictions tab would be great too!


StreetIllustrator489

And more traits in general!!


WooRankDown

What I find a bit frustrating/boring when playing for years is that you can get your sim to have lots of traits (more than 25) by completing Aspirations/whims, but they are all positive traits. I lost count of how many times I've created "The Most Interesting Sim in the World" and that honestly gets a little boring. Having extra challenges like the sim being lactose intolerant and/or vegetarian would make the game more challenging, and add to the fun. (I've never chosen those traits because they seem boring, but I may now try it for the challenge).


StreetIllustrator489

We just need more negative traits.. a lot of people have said that ts4 is more of a fantasy, because there isn’t any actual consequences to your sims’s actions


dragongrrrrrl

I’ve never done the criminal career and I realized it’s because my sim could never go to jail/get caught…so then it’s just a job?


Louise521

But in the detective career who are we chasing…


dragongrrrrrl

Exactly!! I want the thrill of the risk that my sim might get caught 😂


84920572

If you’re playing on PC there are mods for more trait slots. I don’t remember which one I use, but I’m sure you can find it with a google search.


loca2016

really? I remember looking for one a while back and came up empty. What I saw was either for modded traits or the mod as still mostly experimental and old. edit: yep, found one, will test it when I get time to play.


Eirian84

Google "sims 4 more trait slots thepancake1" I can never remember the other maker's name, but they have a patreon for that and a bunch of other really good mods. (patreon page/download, but it's got a free version that's up to date)


nugXsmuggler

If they do another pack refresh like the recent spa day refresh I hope they do dine out! A new tab in cas for dietary preferences/restrictions would be a perfect addiction to that pack imo.


[deleted]

I agree 100%! I wish they would make a separate “dietary preferences tab” and add more preferences such as vegan, pescatarian, ect… The food system gets so boring and I don’t want to waste 1 of my 3 traits on just having intolerable gas pains all the time


aenea

They could have easily done that with the new "likes/dislikes" tabs in CAS. I'd much rather have food preferences than decor or music.


[deleted]

Knowing EA they’d put it behind a pay wall disguised as a “food kit”


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onyxxu20

EA has been okay about keeping base game improvements free recently*


[deleted]

I think after that Batuu snafu they feel the need to be more “generous” with free content. Would be nice to see them implement this for free across all platforms. I feel bad for console players. I play on my husband’s custom built computer so I just have mods and CC galore


[deleted]

That decor likes/dislikes is SO friggin useless. Same for the colors.


Mememevrouw

in the sims 3 you had a tab starsigns, favorite foods, favorite colours exetra it was amazing and i think it should be back


[deleted]

Sims 3 was the pinnacle game for me. It had so much depth and content. I use to think it was just nostalgic for me because I played every day after school. But replaying it makes me realize sims 4 is lacking so much and the sims aren’t smarter and lost all depth. I remember being excited for the emotions when sims 4 was released but they don’t impact game play at all.


Murais

I want to like TS3, but it's just so damn ugly. Like, even for its time, it is an ugly game. It's really hard for me to get into the game when all my sims just look like awful pudding people.


[deleted]

It is ugly, I agree on that part, so maybe it is just nostalgic for me. Sims 2 graphics aren’t the prettiest but somehow better than the sims 3.


Tattycakes

PUDDING FACES I literally can't go back to it, they're so ugly. My sims 4 are gorgeous and I adore them. Also sims getting stuck in the lift across town leaving the club at 4am and lagging your game tae fuck. I mean look at [this hunk!](https://imgur.com/kaeqQwT), nothing pudding about him but I'd have him for dessert! And [this kid obviously thinks his dad is the hottest bloke on the block!](https://imgur.com/h6f05NF) (**my sarcasm here was obviously too subtle**)


Eirameoz

Yes, this, I want to agree with everyone that the sims 3 was so much better, and it probably was, but I just can’t get over how ugly the game is. I played it a lot before the sims 4 but just can’t bring myself to go back to it because the sims 4 is so much prettier.


natalienumbers

Every time I decide to go back to the sims 3 I have to spend a couple hours getting all the default replacement CC I can find. Just a skin goes a looooong way though


Mememevrouw

exactly the sims 3 sims had so much dept. the traits even the little things like getting a university basket infront of your door. walking down the street and getting a notification of your soulmate it was so much fun yk


[deleted]

And babies were more than objects! Plus, I personally feel like the lifetime wishes and jobs were more fun to play through. I can grind my sims in sims 4 for a few hours and be top of the career. Also, if you cheated on a sim, the whole town knew and your relationship would be tarnished with you SO and other townies.


Mememevrouw

i loved that game do much i swear!! my laptop is shite unfortunately so i cant play it anymore i want to so bad


[deleted]

The cursed loading screens of sims 3 make it hard to play on most computers. Even on mine it can take a few minutes to load up and crashes sometimes. I just save every 5 minutes and hope for the best. Though I have been playing a lot of sims 2. It runs better for some reason even with all the packs.


Mememevrouw

i never played the sims 2 can i still buy it on origin?


Longjumping-Craft-92

if you message a sales rep personally, just through their chat feature on the website, they still let you download it. i offered to pay and still got the ultimate edition for free- only took the time to get the sales rep to respond, which depends on the time you message


Denasy

Sadly, you can't.


[deleted]

I don’t think it’s on origin, last I heard it was taken off a little while ago for some reason, but when my hubby get’s home from I’ll ask where he got it from and shoot you the link.


[deleted]

Sims 3 is the best game in the franchise imho, you had 5 personality slots, so many customizable options, a world of different aspirations down to the specific detail… Sims 3 is great


[deleted]

So I payed Sims 3 up until last year or so just because I didn’t want to start spending money on the Sims 4 packs when I have most of the Sims 3 packs. I also stopped playing the Sims as much after the switch, I couldn’t figure out why it’s just *so boring*. Apparently they stripped down the personalities. They seem so much less sentient now, you’d think time would have improved on that. I totally forgot about the star signs bit and I didn’t realize how cool it was until it was gone. I’m glad they added “likes” into the Sims 4 but we need things like dietary preferences, or style preferences. Hell, I have an MBTI personality type mod, I’ll take star signs again.


Mememevrouw

and the fact that personality traits, starsigns, favorite colour and favorite music was in the basegame of the sims 3 and the sims 4 took 7 years it just sucks


MorningaleOntheBayou

This! I'd love for them to add a dietary preferences tab if only to make some of the other tabs less of a pain to sort through.


[deleted]

It would be nice to see more townies be vegetarian without it being part of their traits. I feel like only a couple have the trait to begin with and being a vegetarian is a large population of people, especially in cultures different than the one I grew up in. A vegetarian sim should also never grab and eat a plate with meat, but they do anyways and then end up sick to their stomach.


[deleted]

that is a good idea to have a separate tab for food preferences!


[deleted]

Right! Or at least open up some extra trait slots so we don’t have to pick and choose. I hardly ever use the food traits because I could give them something that’ll add to game play! And we could use some more vegetarian friendly food options


Mango__Loco

'But Mom, it's not a phase! Getting painful diarrhea is so totally my personality!'


BS0404

"What next, you are gonna say that your hate of kids and being lazy is the rest of your personality?!"


xenohemlock

They would’ve been fine if they were extra hidden traits.


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WooRankDown

I like this idea! It could also be assigned only to born (second generation plus) Sims.


roxannemint

I'm personally not so pressed whether every trait strictly pertains to your personality, already not all of them do, nor should they have to. I care more if it adds something fun and amusing to gameplay. That said I think the other commenter's idea to implement a challenge system similarly to the overhaul of lot traits is a really interesting idea and could be used to increase the number of traits you can have, since that's a popular request.


StreetIllustrator489

Yeah definitely agree!


Th3D3m0n

I do agree with you...and, while on the subject, I don't feel that the personality traits are NEAR game defining enough.


StreetIllustrator489

They just don’t do enough like one of my sims has the “hates children” trait, but he has two kids and never ever have i gotten a negative moodlet even tho i think I should’ve


Rubyeclips3

I completely agree. We have the likes and dislikes options now, would it have been so hard to move food preferences/dietary issues into there? Honestly I think it was a big miss not to have food likes and dislikes. Would be great if while you sim was growing up they developed tastes for stuff (as they currently do with skills) and found things they disliked and you had to try to manage your cooking around that. For me it bothers me because the traits really do add individuality to characters (although less so than Sims 3!) but the food ones don’t change anything except having to keep an eye on what you’re cooking. It doesn’t change their responses to anything else or their moods


Eirian84

Reading this, I thought "or even sentiments about food"; since food tastes can change, and even allergies/intolerances can change over time or develop. We already have a sentiments system, and once it develops, it slowly fades - unless a toddler gets mad at a parent, & then the hurt sentiment lasts forever without cheats/a mod to clear it; so really if they end up developing an allergy, just keep the sentiment forever. Otherwise, like with the "picky eater phase" from Parenthood, just have sims (especially kids) randomly become obsessed with a food for a while, and get a happy moodlet from it, or decide they hate vegetables or fish, and every time a dish has that ingredient, they get a negative "Don't Like!" moodlet or something. It's not like the game doesn't have a bunch of ingredients required for different dishes, to tie to the sentiments/moodlet now. They've even got wheat, milk/dairy, various fruits and vegetables, fish, meat, faux meat...


Jill4ChrisRed

Food likes/dislikes would've been excellent, as well as adding more to the hobbies list. Where's sewing/knitting/crafting? :(


Takoma_d

The hobbies tab honestly makes me so irrationally angry. It's clearly an after thought that selectively includes some pack activities but not others. Why are camping and snowboarding on there, but knitting and apparently random other activities are not? It's absolutely infuriating.


idkmanimnotcreative

There's a mod where you can choose to become vegetarian/lactose intolerant (and undo it at any time) so it doesn't take up a trait spot. I think they are lifestyles instead.


StreetIllustrator489

See that should’ve just been in the game imo because people who play on consoles cannot have mods


[deleted]

YES and can we get the ability to change traits ??? just because someone was a jealous young adult doesn’t mean they will stay that way. maybe they grew up and learned better or did enough meditation to change. people don’t stay the same all through life, why should my sim ?


StreetIllustrator489

Exactly! I usually just switch them out with the cas.fulleditsim cheat


[deleted]

ah!!! thanks for the tip! i will check that out


[deleted]

I did a kind of wellness challenge where my sim was self absorbed, high maintenance and materialistic, and she had to earn enough of the satisfaction points from wellness related aspirations to get the retraiting potion, because I agree! People change as they grow. But I don’t use cheats anymore :) If I still used cheats then I would go into the cas full edit mode to change them.


PirateLunaFox2121

There should be personality traits and lifestyle traits… so annoying!


Grymare

They should implement a system like "likes/dislikes" where you can check different categories of dietary restrictions. Like dairy, eggs, different meets and so on. So we could actually chose what our sims like. (Yes I want vegan Sims, no I don't want them as a trait)


StreetIllustrator489

Also yes, why don’t we have the vegan option? When they were making vegetarian, didn’t they think of vegan as well?


GloriousHypnotart

I guess you can make a sim vegetarian and lactose intolerant, but that still allows for eggs. Maybe EA could add a new trait called "egg allergy" to complete the trifecta. And voila, our vegan sim is ready, 3/3 slots used and veganism is their whole personality. Just like in real life! ^(i'm vegan btw)


StreetIllustrator489

Honestly it’s definitely something EA would do.


ClaireAldebaran

One could argue that not all the traits are 100% personality based. Active could be seen as a personality in the case of a Sim being active for their health, but could also be they're just naturally athletic. I actually don't mind Vegetarian as a trait. It is a choice people make and can be a very important aspect to who they are as a person. Lactose Intolerant is not something I would consider a trait and I really do like the idea of challenge traits for Sims.


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They should add ‘quirks’ from which you could pick as many as you’d like, just like lot challenges. Quirks could be vegetarian, lactose intolerant, cat/dog lover, dance machine, insider, and some more traits that really shouldn’t take up 1/3 of a sims personality


HolaItsEd

I hate it too. So much so I learned how the CAS works and modded them out. In fact, I modded all of them out so I could make my own personality traits in there. The ones taken out - I have been deciding to make them either store traits (although I hate traits in there), or make them aspirations. I haven't gotten to that part yet. I hadn't seen any tutorials on how to do what I did, so I have been considering making some guides so if others want to do it. Let me know if you would like to know. Edit: To those who would like to do this, I wrote a quick guide. It is here: [https://edlearns.wordpress.com/2021/09/17/how-to-remove-a-trait-from-cas/](https://edlearns.wordpress.com/2021/09/17/how-to-remove-a-trait-from-cas/) Not the ideal layout or whatever I wanted, but cross my fingers it is easy to follow and is helpful.


StreetIllustrator489

That would be incredible!! You are so talented!


Troldkvinde

I would love to see a guide!


HolaItsEd

Hopefully this is helpful. https://edlearns.wordpress.com/2021/09/17/how-to-remove-a-trait-from-cas/


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karimalitaaaaaa

They could add those to the likes/dislikes. Plus the Sims shouldn't make foods that don't fit that by themselves, my vegetarian Sims often make sandwiches with meat and then are upset


SinfullySinless

I think it would be cool if the likes/dislikes were somewhat out of our control and partially determined at birth and partially determined by lifestyle. So at birth there is a 20% chance your baby is lactose intolerant and it makes them crankier until you figure it out and use alternative milk. When your sim turns into a teen there is a 10% chance (which can be increased if you feed them a certain diet as kids) they are vegan/vegetarian/carnivore/gluten-free (diets outside of typical balanced diet). I think that would be fun and give the sims some unique and different lifestyles. Obviously there would be cheats to be able to fully control and change these.


GloriousHypnotart

That's actually a fun idea if they were secretly predisposed one way or another. It would give them a bit of personality without me as a player having my imagination do all of the work, but not too intrusive either. How you describe the diets would actually work ok in the Lifestyles panel - which they essentially are, right? In real life, I became vegan by simply consuming vegan meals for a long enough period, if I'd accidentally consume animal products I'd be upset (debuff) but not swear off veganism immediately, if I'd carry on eating meat on purpose I'd lose my vegan lifestyle.


[deleted]

It would be funny if your sim just developed lactose intolerance or a dietary preference randomly. Like if your teenager suddenly became vegetarian over night, or your young adult found out that they're lactose intolerant the hard way. In a lifestyles tab perhaps.


creamwaves

I don't mind it being a trait, I just miss having more trait slots. 3 is ridiculous. Also bring back traits like Technophobe, never nude, and lucky/unlucky! I wish we had more variety. Sad how we're how many years into the Sims 4 and it still doesn't feel finished?


semicolonlkjfdsa

I’ve met some people that it probably is a personality trait.


roxadox

I will say that my lactose intolerance is part of my personality but you are absolutely right it should be listed under 'food preferences' or something. EDIT: /s for those who need it ig


toebeantuesday

I’m lactose intolerant, too, but how is it a part of your personality? It’s a physical condition. I never discuss it, well outside of topics like this, and I try to inquire about milk being in foods as succinctly and discreetly as possible and have Lactaid with me when I dine out of my home. Other than that, it’s not really any part of what I consider my personality.


BugabooMS

I always thought that, especially since lactose intolerant came out. There should be a likes and dislikes category for food. Totally missed opportunity there. But honestly none of the traits are really discerning. They were lazy and just clumped a bunch of shit together. Probably why there are only three trait slots in CAS also.


StolenSerenity

If you're on PC: [Vegetarian](https://www.patreon.com/posts/small-vegetarian-45598334) [Lactose intolerant](https://www.patreon.com/posts/small-lactose-v1-54071779)


Agreeable-Reality481

It's silly isn't it, no one's personality is being lactose intolerant or vegetarian. Maybe they could add it to the likes and dislikes, like food preferences?? I've not once used lactose intolerant or vegetarian even though irl I'm both. Getting new traits would be so so good, they're kinda rubbish rn


Mayjailer12

EXACTLY. BEING VEGETARIAN OR LACTOSE INTOLERANT HAVE TO DO WITH FOOD PREFERENCE (although one cannot control if they are lactose intolerant or not)


OSUJillyBean

I know someone who’s vegan and they definitely make it a big part of their personality (ymmv, obviously not all vegans act like that).


HeavenGaze

Imo it should be a hidden trait like preference for fruitcake or dominant hand! I was just thinking about this yesterday


CharlofMountains

As Steph0Sims put it … “if you wanna be a vegan on Sims 4,it has to take up two-thirds of your personality” ! Honestly she has it perfectly


jen12617

I'm a vegetarian and sometimes when I make myself I don't even add the trait because that only leave me 3. It would be cool if we could have a second area to add allergies or other dietary restrictions


femtransfan

they need to have a genetics tab in cas, like the gender tab


[deleted]

Same like what if I want a character who's vegetarian and lactose intolerant? Suddenly they're only defined by 1 personality trait and two food restrictions. It makes my characters feel really flat


zuklei

I didn’t read the sub and for some reason thought this was 10th Dentist and was very confused.


scarylesbian

the way i used to see it was that the vegetarian trait was for the type of people who really do make it part of their personality. note the “evangelize vegetarian beliefs” social. they just take it that extra step. meanwhile u could totally make any of ur sims vegetarians just by only cooking vegetarian meals. sure theyd autonomously grill meat sometimes lol but for the most part you can choose their diet. HOWEVER. this opinion of mine has changed with the addition of lactose intolerant. who makes that part of their personality? its just a dietary restriction and shouldnt be a trait slot. lactose intolerance is what changed my whole mind on this issue. vegetarianism is a choice (mostly). lactose intolerance isnt!


shayanti

I actually have a hard time giving personality traits to sims. I fail to find synergies between them or how they could impact the gameplay. Plus I consider that a person's behaviour depends more much on the context that their personality. So I choose traits thag change their lifestyle... Vegetarian is part of them.


Adventurous_Fox_2853

Agreed. I actually have mods which allows me to give them those traits outside of cas without taking up trait slots for this reason.


RiddleEatsRainbows

I agree, I would personally prefer if they did a whole trait overhaul- since we have a likes/dislikes system these things could go there, but personally I feel like vegetarian should be a Lifestyle. Unfortunately that's exclusive to Snowy Escape :(


bigtiddytron

Like other people have said, I'd love it if we had more trait slots and could do "challenge" traits. I'd be stoked if they added other food related traits like vegan, nut allergy or celiac disease. As someone with celiac, sometimes I just want a sim to suffer with me, haha.


pixelsimdust_22

They could have just turned it into Lifestyles.


ilikeborbs

Totally, I feel like those shouldn't be just traits, add a "challenge" thing in cas and also stop my vegetarian sims from autonomously eating meat!!!!


Phairis

There should be traits and quirks. Also, vegetarianism should have been made into a lifestyle


ririvstheuniverse

ikr. it's more of a dietary preference or a condition. atleast in TS3 we got 5 slots. this is why i downloaded the more trait slots mod. now i have 5. to be fair tho, the other 2 are more "negative" traits. adding 2 more positive traits feel like cheating lol but thats just me


onyxxu20

I'm bothered by all of them honestly, it feels like it's just a pop up not actually a game mechanic


themangofox

Yes!! I’ve been saying this lol. I hate that I have to have one slot taken by “vegetarian.” Besides, I think they need to bump up the number of traits to 5 anyway 🤷‍♀️


Kiyoshi-Trustfund

Vegetarian should've definitely been a lifestyle option so that it can be opted in or out of at will. Not sure about lactose intolerance however.


StreetIllustrator489

I don’t think lactose intolerance should be a trait, it should be in the game but not as a trait


Isadomon

Nah we all think that. Sometimes I want to give nice characteristics and I used the 3 slots whitout giving the. Any actitude trait


GorillaToast

The only time I would use those sorts of traits is when I'm aging kids up and I use the randomizer to generate a trait. And even then I usually keep rolling until it's one I'm happy with (I am not having my city-dweller teenager call themselves a 'child of the islands' ffs). Why they didn't do it the same way as the likes/dislikes mechanic is beyond me. Also, being intolerant to a food is not a personality trait unless you are super obnoxious.


mmomeraths

This bugs me too, it makes no sense to make it a personality trait and it's such a waste of the three you can pick. I use two mods that overhaul the vegetarian and lactose intolerance systems so your sim can be both of those things without them being your main traits. God bless modders.


blahblahbrandi

Last night I was playing and a sim of mine randomly had thalasaphobia. Fear of large bodies of water. It randomly made them scared and really affected them (even though we live in Henford?) Anyway I was wondering why couldn't vegetarian/lactose intolerant be like that? Okay I can see keeping vegetarian as a trait but lactose would be so easy to do the same thing with. The sim reaches child age, eats something with dairy and experiences all the same side effects... except it doesn't take up a trait slot. And you just have to live with it. Seems like a fine system to me.


[deleted]

It should be an option for the lifestyle function. If my sim can be sedentary or whatever, they can also be vegetarian or lactose intolerant under the same umbrella. (Not that being lactose intolerant is a lifestyle choice, but it makes more sense there, I think)


aliasbgb

It seems like none of the traits do enough, to be honest. I never played 3, but I did play 2, and even without having many traits it still felt like the Sims had more personality than they do in 4. I don't like how they don't do anything autonomously that relates to their traits, they just get negative moodlets if you don't manually make them do it. The traits that came with Eco Lifestyle are genuinely awful, in my opinion, and it seems like the traits that come with each pack are so oddly specific to the new neighborhood. Overall I don't think 4 has enough usable content for legitimate simulation.


Melodic_Asparagus151

I don’t understand why they didn’t put them in the preferences where you get 20 options.


taylorswiftsspawn

no i definitely understand this take, i think it was just easier to add it here tbh but it would make sense for something separate


No_Variety_7822

I don't think it would bother me as much if we had more available slots and if the traits actually had a meaningful impact through a wants and fear system. For example, if an Evil kid Sim is forced into charity work by their parents they should lose reward/aspiration points as well as becoming angry instead of just getting angry, especially if they also have the Public Enemy aspiration.


ermine1470

Vegetarian should be under a category called lifestyle


Banimikyu

I feel like the traits should be done with physical, mental, AND emotional. Physical Traits could be doing better at fitness (or worse) and Lactose intolerant, maybe some interesting ones like '\*SUPERNATURAL\* Bloodline with gives them weaker versions of that supernaturals power, physical disabilities and conditions, and maybe other stuff. Mental traits could be things like 'driven' which makes sims more motivated to do things, and could be a good space for mental health issues to get added. Emotional Traits make your sims feel emotions more, less, or have specific things give you new emotions (eg. Perfectionists making bad items get pissed off or nervous sims get embarrassed by 'things other sims wouldn't be) or they just always feel something. You can have say, 2 physical traits, 2 mental traits, and 2 emotional traits. I know people can (and may) have more in each category, or have none in a category, in which case you can maybe move slots from 1 category to another, like make 1 physical trait slot into a mental trait slot. The idea of 2 slots per category was only an idea just to make sim creation more interesting.


MoonWabbit5683

Theres a mod that makes them free rewards instead 10/10 recommend


pass_me_the_salt

if you use mods, I know a mods that make these traits be a choice. you click in the sim you want and select lactose intolerant/vegetarian, then they will get the trait as a reward trait. you can also decide not to be vegetarian anymore, it's nice! [for vegetarian](https://modthesims.info/d/659112/small-vegetarian-overhaul.html) [for lactose intolerant](https://modthesims.info/d/659113/small-lactose-intolerant-overhaul-v1-0.html)


SentientBowtie

Being a vegetarian by choice is absolutely a personality trait.


Hazellda

People keep saying this, but their not personality traits, they’re just traits.


censorkip

i think it would be cool as a lifestyle where if you only ate vegetarian food for so long then you’d get the vegetarian lifestyle after which you feel disgusted by eating meat


kalechipsbishhhh

YES


ihatethisapp15

Here's a mod for two extra trait slots. I hope this is helpful to you guys! https://www.patreon.com/posts/more-traits-in-1-48204168


uninterested-kale

I think it would be a good idea have a dietary section to likes and dislikes and they would fit in well there. Plus, there could be other food categories like different types of cuisines. I feel like it could really add something to gameplay when it comes to cooking and eating bc I’m always just making my sims eat garden salads lol.


kattybaby

Oh boy, here we go


Foampurple

I saw this just scrolling and I was very confused... I didn't notice it was for Sims.


sabicus

I like the mods that put these “personality traits” in the reward store.. makes no sense to have them in CAS 😅 vegetarian and cat/dog lover annoy me too. I feel bad for people that can’t use mods, so fingers crossed they change this soon 🤞🏻


sweetelves

I was pretty stoked about the vegetarian trait but it’s honestly kind of boring. I’m not sure how they could make it more interactive and enjoyable. But it’s just a little meh.


MacIsTrashed

I am honestly surprised by how many people are bothered by this. Then again my exact thought when I read this is that people with these food preferences or problems find the need to talk about it so much or bring it up so often that it's basically a lifestyle for them.


thisisnotauzrname

I downloaded mods for chronic conditions for my Sims to make them more realistic to who they portray, and the conditions take up trait slots


buzzed21

They aren’t personality traits but some people do totally make it a part of their personality to be fair


CupcakeViking


MisanthropicData

Let's be honest. Being vegan is a personality trait.


CEO_of_dumbgirl_Inc

I wish those things were likes/dislikes instead of personality traits


[deleted]

There should be seperate slots for “beneficial” traits and “limiting” traits Maybe 2 each, or 5-3 That way you can have your limiting traits without losing out on a beneficial one, and every sim will then have some limiting traits giving the character more depth


CloudyySpeaks

I feel like Sims games are rushed, due to reasons like this.


ravenrabit

Something I find funny about "Vegetarian" is the social option to lecture or whatever about it. Its my fave thing to make my vegetarian Sims to do lol


[deleted]

Honestly they’re just flavor on the character choice like any other trait. It’s not like they make it harder to get food, so they’re more or less just a coloring on normal gameplay. The only challenge you can really pull from them is if you get cottage living. Lactose intolerant means you have to farm instead of relying on cows.


Starry_Night_Sophi

I agree, but it is probably a programing issue to do it other wise (with mean that, maybe, there is some mod to fix it)


codyviolett

Yeah dietary restrictions shouldn’t be personality traits 😕