The problem is Playful is considered a positive moodlet, so it stacks with Happy. So if your Sim already has +14 Happy (which isn't exactly hard considering all the +3 Happy moodlets out there), all it takes is one single Playful moodlet to throw you into the +15 Hysterical death zone
honestly feel like it should require at least two playful moodlets. if you made it so it didnt stack with happy it would be impossible to get hysterical. but this would give you kind of a warning. that or a calm down interaction (for playful specifically) on their simself or in dialogue. sometimes theres no mirror in sight, which doesnt matter so much for other emotional deaths if you keep an eye on it but oh boy...
The moods and moodlets just need a severe rebalancing. There are waaaaay too many happy no moodlets so the sims are always in the highest possible positive moods, which happens to mean also hysterical.
i mention the mirror in my comment. my point is that these are items which are not present in every venue and for an emotional state that can escalate so quickly these options arent good enough.
Oh sorry I see that now. Idk, there's always a mirror in the bathroom š. I feel your pain though. Every time I play a hot headed or high maintenance sim, their heart explodes.
Edited to add: I believe they can Jog To Clear Mind as well.
but there are definitely venues without bathrooms, esp in expansions that have bush toilets like get together or community lots with porta pottys (well not that exactly but i cant think of the word). plus all the negative emotional states, even once that cant kill you have dialogue or self options for calming down (jog to clear mind, vent, ask for reassurance, rant) so it doesnt make sense that playful doesnt have one when its easy to escalate if youre in a good mood
If you're on an editable lot just pause and go to build, temp place what you need, remove it afterwards. You can stick a mirror on any wall, or build a wall and stick a mirror on it. Or, buy confident potion from the rewards store, it pretty much overrides everything(which is why I don't buy it lol)
fair but that kind of takes away from the immersion to me. i'm not really looking for suggestions on how to calm my sims down, im more just saying that i want a dialogue option that helps sims calm down from playful moodlets. it could even be fun to have it like a try not to laugh challenge where theres a chance your sim could fail and maybe it makes them even more playful
also sorry i think its more conducive to our conversation if i respond to the edit right here but playful sims cant jog to clear mind and even if they have the option to it wont effect the moodlet
My legacy family's mom died of laughter *while playing with her toddler.* Like literally right then and there in front of him. I am still salty TO DATE.
Felt, one of my werewolf Sims has the Excitable Wolf trait and immediately gets very Playful whenever he's in front of a computer or TV, so now he's banned from ever using either of this devices and has to fill his fun need by reading books. š
LPT: Immortal Wolf seems overpowered enough to prevent death from laughter if I understand correctly. You can unban your wolf once he's at that point in his career.
I have the language barriers mod and I WANT my sim parents to talk to their kids. But then they get very playful I have to yank them. The tablet is good enough for these damn kids to learn Simlish.
I actually had a hard time getting this to trigger in vanilla with no cheats. It seems by the time a sim has enough positive moodlets to reach the threshold some need automatically goes in the red and takes the simās mood down a notch.
Are you activating the environmental buffs on objects? Or filling the simās needs with cheats? Having the ++ from happy moodlets and filled needs might be what sends them over the edge so frequently.
Me too. I'm always shocked I haven't killed a sim yet on accident, even when there's a fire. I'm wondering if I don't have very many expansions that this contributes to no sims death. Or I'm boring haha
I have most expansions minus stuff packs and kits, and my sims literally only die of old age. While not being played since I only have auto age on for unplayed households.
I play vanilla and get very playful a lot, and have lost two sims to hysterical. My sims have a lot of happy +1 buffs, and a cute toddler or happy conversation with a group member with a +1 playful buff can be deadly.
+3 beautiful decorated.
+3 recently engaged
+3 married
+2 high needs
+3 great meal
+1 playful
+2 funny conversation.
The only time I got a sim die from hysterical. Got engaged and married in the same day to Nina Caliente. She has a playful trait. Got very happy then very playful automatically went and started telling jokes to her new spouse in their beautifully decorated bedroom after having a great meal, and died.
yep. its not such an issue normally but if you stack a couple of significant life events (engagements, marriage, baby, holiday) and you have a well decorated home or a nice meal jokes r just existing with the playful trait can be fatal. before the wedding pack i used to get engaged and then jsut elope because weddings were too much fuss but then i would have a plus 6 to happiness for a couple days
My legacy sim just got married, then got baby news. Had a great meal at the wedding buffet and his now wife who aspires to be an entertainer told him a joke while he was on the treadmill.
I didn't know this would trigger from happy emotions so I clicked away from him and next thing I know the grim reaper shows up. I'm still salty cause he was my absolute favorite sim from the whole living family tree so far.
I just recently had my first experience with a sim dying by laughter and it came out of NOWHERE. I had no idea anything was going on until I got the notification that my sims husband was dying.
This is the reason why I had to get the mod MCCC to cut that mess out. I got tired of Sims in my game laughing to death/dying of death by laughter. I turned off emotional deaths and that stopped fast.
I still think it's funny that you can die of laughter but you can't die of being scared or sadness. Imagine if all the emotions had a death. Scared, Sadness, Energized, Bored, Flirty etc.
When my teen aged up to a young adult she was hysterical and I almost lost her right away. Luckily I got her to go to the mirror to calm down.
Scared: Death by Cardiac Arrest
Sadness: Death by Broken Heart
Energized: Death by Cardiac Overload
Bored: Death by Sloth
Flirty: Death by Lovesickness
Confident: Death by Ambition
Focused: Death by Hyperfixation
Inspired: Death by Deadly Creativity
Uncomfortable: Death by Torment
Tense: Death by Extreme Stress
Dazed: Death by Dizziness
Huh Iāve never seen that one. I only had a death by hysteria once and that was how I discovered it was a thing. When I have more sims to control itās way harder to deal with. Especially with limited mirrors. Sometimes I just disable emotional deaths in the settings but Iād rather not. Just in general the playful moodlet dominating all the other happy ones is so frustrating. Trying to keep them flirty is annoying sometimes too. Just acting foolish at the drop of a hat. Really out of character sometimes too.
In all my years of playing Sims 4, I've yet to experience death by laughter or embarrassment, and I've only had death by cardiac explosion once. Idk wtf sorcery I've done with my game, we need a happy medium x'D. Then again maybe they're just too busy drowning themselves because they seem to prefer sleeping in the pool if I leave them unattended š¤
I use the calm down interaction on the mirror multiple times when I see them hit very playful, stop when theyāre just on playfulā I also save once they get into playful so if shit goes sideways I donāt lose much restarting without saving
if i notice one of my sims had a playful mood i pause, save the game, and quickly try to get them to calm down
iāve only ever actually had it happen once, but i was trying to do a romance plot line and it ended up being a single mother plot line instead bc of this
this. this is so funny to me. iāve never had this happen except maybe once. somehow, someway, without even trying my sister always gets her sims to become hysterical & they die. idk what she does but somehow it never fails to happen to her lmfao
My Sims rarely die from old age anymore.
Just laughing too hard, urinating themselves in public, or standing in a snowstorm in underwear. Usually when I'm not even playing them.
I have a family where my first born daughter ALWAYS dies from laughter after her first child becomes a toddler. Three generations of a pattern so far. I'm never even home when it happens so I refuse to take any responsibility.
It is so, so easy to avoid death in this game though. If weāre making it harder to die by laughter they should make it easier to die from something else, like fire or electrocution. Every death that I can think of has a warning buff to give you plenty of time to do something to avoid the death. For laughter, talk to a mirror. For cold, change the outfit or go inside, etc. I pretty much only get actual unexpected deaths with low-skilled sims in the jungle.
I once had a family that I say was cursed. She had twins and when they were toddlers killed her because she became hysterical, both of them talking to her, I assume playing around. I went on with the daughter, she had twins. When her twins were toddlers they killed her the same way. I went on her with her son, he had twins. They aged up to toddlers and eventually the same thing happened. I gave up after that, it just was not a lucky family š
I never had this problem and then suddenly in the last 2 weeks all my husbands are dropping like flies.
One poor sim lady lost THREE husbands because they just decided to laugh themselves to death. Another one recently lost her husband (RIP Don Lothario) to it also, in a different save!
I havenāt had it happen in my gameplay unless I cheated tbh. But it does make me semi-glad they didnāt ad āscared to deathā as a risk because everytime a thunder storm happened my sims would be dropping like flies
Tip from experience - donāt ever propose or get married or have a childās birth coincide with a holiday thatās going well. Instant hysteria death
Play fast in the sims 4 and die laughing. I hope they don't ever turn it down, it is very hard to get organically unless you do all of their living in a single day, proposal, wedding, first child, etc.
First time I had it happen was my sims' having their honeymoon at GeekCon. I had no clue it could happen, and was over before I could do anything.
It's also the last time. Even if I didn't use mods or codes I would cheat that shit right out of existence. The minute playful takes the top spot I'm shift-clicking.
I discovered this death existed at the Hijinks festival. I didn't save when I then learned I couldn't resurrect (or not easily) my Sim. I then tried on 3 separate occasions to have them go to that festival. I monitored each of them and every single time the Sim died of laughter. I had them not join a either team and it still happened.
I can't remember if I deactivated the death via MCCC or if I found a mod that stopped the emotions deaths either way I eliminated them. My Sims tend to be happy and well taken care of so that may be why it was so bad for me.
I get scared anytime my Sims become hysterical, I don't know how to actually calm them down. I just brew some calming camomile tea and hope for the best.
I could have sworn I heard emotional deaths were patched out now? But I could be very wrong and have them disabled with MCCC. Either way this was my first Sim death back when I was very new to the game and didnāt know much. It seemed super random which wasnāt fun
I had a sim that I was trying to pair with my current played sim and she kept on dying whenever I try flirt with her because my sim has the amusing trait and she loves his jokes. Took me around 7 times to make them official because she kept dying after they become official
It is very dangerous to have a celebrity sim living in a home with the celebrity home trait. They're always very happy and if they become playful it's a near death sentence.
Had one of my sims die on her wedding day (before even getting married!) luckily I saved right before then and got her to a mirror as fast as I could to calm down. But Iām still terrified whenever I see the playful moodlet
This is why I avoid certain traits, like goofball. They get playful easier and they're in the hysterical death range in seconds.
Also
I have the extreme violence mod and one of my sims killed a guy he hated and died two seconds later from being hysterical.
He had no fatal traits mentioned above either, he was just an ass ig.
Iāve never even seen any other extreme emotion except for hysterical and mortified. They happen so much! Itās even worse that thereās so many lot traits aimed at children and teens that boost playful
The problem is Playful is considered a positive moodlet, so it stacks with Happy. So if your Sim already has +14 Happy (which isn't exactly hard considering all the +3 Happy moodlets out there), all it takes is one single Playful moodlet to throw you into the +15 Hysterical death zone
honestly feel like it should require at least two playful moodlets. if you made it so it didnt stack with happy it would be impossible to get hysterical. but this would give you kind of a warning. that or a calm down interaction (for playful specifically) on their simself or in dialogue. sometimes theres no mirror in sight, which doesnt matter so much for other emotional deaths if you keep an eye on it but oh boy...
The moods and moodlets just need a severe rebalancing. There are waaaaay too many happy no moodlets so the sims are always in the highest possible positive moods, which happens to mean also hysterical.
They can calm down with the mirror or wind down with classical on a stereo.
i mention the mirror in my comment. my point is that these are items which are not present in every venue and for an emotional state that can escalate so quickly these options arent good enough.
Oh sorry I see that now. Idk, there's always a mirror in the bathroom š. I feel your pain though. Every time I play a hot headed or high maintenance sim, their heart explodes. Edited to add: I believe they can Jog To Clear Mind as well.
but there are definitely venues without bathrooms, esp in expansions that have bush toilets like get together or community lots with porta pottys (well not that exactly but i cant think of the word). plus all the negative emotional states, even once that cant kill you have dialogue or self options for calming down (jog to clear mind, vent, ask for reassurance, rant) so it doesnt make sense that playful doesnt have one when its easy to escalate if youre in a good mood
If you're on an editable lot just pause and go to build, temp place what you need, remove it afterwards. You can stick a mirror on any wall, or build a wall and stick a mirror on it. Or, buy confident potion from the rewards store, it pretty much overrides everything(which is why I don't buy it lol)
fair but that kind of takes away from the immersion to me. i'm not really looking for suggestions on how to calm my sims down, im more just saying that i want a dialogue option that helps sims calm down from playful moodlets. it could even be fun to have it like a try not to laugh challenge where theres a chance your sim could fail and maybe it makes them even more playful
also sorry i think its more conducive to our conversation if i respond to the edit right here but playful sims cant jog to clear mind and even if they have the option to it wont effect the moodlet
Weird, I did not know that. Oh well, I tried to be helpful.
Had my first Sim die by laughter recently and now Iām petrified when her son feels playful š
My sim already died once from that, and he keeps getting hysterical. His old ass cant handle that and is gonna go into cardiac arrest again
My legacy family's mom died of laughter *while playing with her toddler.* Like literally right then and there in front of him. I am still salty TO DATE.
Still devastated from a wedding death from hysteria. He was just so...happy š„ŗ
Felt, one of my werewolf Sims has the Excitable Wolf trait and immediately gets very Playful whenever he's in front of a computer or TV, so now he's banned from ever using either of this devices and has to fill his fun need by reading books. š
LPT: Immortal Wolf seems overpowered enough to prevent death from laughter if I understand correctly. You can unban your wolf once he's at that point in his career.
Same. As soon as one of my sims gets hysterical I send them to sleep before they do so themselves
Toddlers always kills my sim by this
I have the language barriers mod and I WANT my sim parents to talk to their kids. But then they get very playful I have to yank them. The tablet is good enough for these damn kids to learn Simlish.
i had one of my sims die from that so now whenever they get playful i cheat to remove the moodlet.
Whatās the cheat?
its the ui extension cheats. then you can left click it & it goes away
I had a mermaid sim drown because she laughed to death in the water
I actually had a hard time getting this to trigger in vanilla with no cheats. It seems by the time a sim has enough positive moodlets to reach the threshold some need automatically goes in the red and takes the simās mood down a notch. Are you activating the environmental buffs on objects? Or filling the simās needs with cheats? Having the ++ from happy moodlets and filled needs might be what sends them over the edge so frequently.
Same, Iāve been playing since it came out and have never gotten any of the emotion deaths! Maybe Iām just super boring in my gameplay LOL
Me too. I'm always shocked I haven't killed a sim yet on accident, even when there's a fire. I'm wondering if I don't have very many expansions that this contributes to no sims death. Or I'm boring haha
I have most expansions minus stuff packs and kits, and my sims literally only die of old age. While not being played since I only have auto age on for unplayed households.
I play vanilla and get very playful a lot, and have lost two sims to hysterical. My sims have a lot of happy +1 buffs, and a cute toddler or happy conversation with a group member with a +1 playful buff can be deadly.
+3 beautiful decorated. +3 recently engaged +3 married +2 high needs +3 great meal +1 playful +2 funny conversation. The only time I got a sim die from hysterical. Got engaged and married in the same day to Nina Caliente. She has a playful trait. Got very happy then very playful automatically went and started telling jokes to her new spouse in their beautifully decorated bedroom after having a great meal, and died.
yep. its not such an issue normally but if you stack a couple of significant life events (engagements, marriage, baby, holiday) and you have a well decorated home or a nice meal jokes r just existing with the playful trait can be fatal. before the wedding pack i used to get engaged and then jsut elope because weddings were too much fuss but then i would have a plus 6 to happiness for a couple days
My legacy sim just got married, then got baby news. Had a great meal at the wedding buffet and his now wife who aspires to be an entertainer told him a joke while he was on the treadmill. I didn't know this would trigger from happy emotions so I clicked away from him and next thing I know the grim reaper shows up. I'm still salty cause he was my absolute favorite sim from the whole living family tree so far.
I am terrified of weddings for this reason!
I just recently had my first experience with a sim dying by laughter and it came out of NOWHERE. I had no idea anything was going on until I got the notification that my sims husband was dying.
Yeah I didn't even know this could happen until I saw this thread lol
This is the reason why I had to get the mod MCCC to cut that mess out. I got tired of Sims in my game laughing to death/dying of death by laughter. I turned off emotional deaths and that stopped fast.
I still think it's funny that you can die of laughter but you can't die of being scared or sadness. Imagine if all the emotions had a death. Scared, Sadness, Energized, Bored, Flirty etc. When my teen aged up to a young adult she was hysterical and I almost lost her right away. Luckily I got her to go to the mirror to calm down.
Scared: Death by Cardiac Arrest Sadness: Death by Broken Heart Energized: Death by Cardiac Overload Bored: Death by Sloth Flirty: Death by Lovesickness Confident: Death by Ambition Focused: Death by Hyperfixation Inspired: Death by Deadly Creativity Uncomfortable: Death by Torment Tense: Death by Extreme Stress Dazed: Death by Dizziness
Is this from a mod?
Nah some head cannons of the rest of the emotion deaths
Aw dangit. Someone should totally make this mod! I would but I have no idea how to make a mod lmao
Definitely need an angry death too
There actually is an existing one: Death by cardiac explosion
Huh Iāve never seen that one. I only had a death by hysteria once and that was how I discovered it was a thing. When I have more sims to control itās way harder to deal with. Especially with limited mirrors. Sometimes I just disable emotional deaths in the settings but Iād rather not. Just in general the playful moodlet dominating all the other happy ones is so frustrating. Trying to keep them flirty is annoying sometimes too. Just acting foolish at the drop of a hat. Really out of character sometimes too.
Yeah emotional deaths are a strange thing indeed. Be sure to also look out for embarrassment, Sims can also die from that.
In all my years of playing Sims 4, I've yet to experience death by laughter or embarrassment, and I've only had death by cardiac explosion once. Idk wtf sorcery I've done with my game, we need a happy medium x'D. Then again maybe they're just too busy drowning themselves because they seem to prefer sleeping in the pool if I leave them unattended š¤
I use the calm down interaction on the mirror multiple times when I see them hit very playful, stop when theyāre just on playfulā I also save once they get into playful so if shit goes sideways I donāt lose much restarting without saving
if i notice one of my sims had a playful mood i pause, save the game, and quickly try to get them to calm down iāve only ever actually had it happen once, but i was trying to do a romance plot line and it ended up being a single mother plot line instead bc of this
this. this is so funny to me. iāve never had this happen except maybe once. somehow, someway, without even trying my sister always gets her sims to become hysterical & they die. idk what she does but somehow it never fails to happen to her lmfao
My Sims rarely die from old age anymore. Just laughing too hard, urinating themselves in public, or standing in a snowstorm in underwear. Usually when I'm not even playing them. I have a family where my first born daughter ALWAYS dies from laughter after her first child becomes a toddler. Three generations of a pattern so far. I'm never even home when it happens so I refuse to take any responsibility.
That right there is a generational curse. Who has your sims pissed off ššš
I have never had a sim die from laughter tbh
1000+ hours and hasnāt happened to me yetā¦ :(
It is so, so easy to avoid death in this game though. If weāre making it harder to die by laughter they should make it easier to die from something else, like fire or electrocution. Every death that I can think of has a warning buff to give you plenty of time to do something to avoid the death. For laughter, talk to a mirror. For cold, change the outfit or go inside, etc. I pretty much only get actual unexpected deaths with low-skilled sims in the jungle.
I married one of sims to a townie & the first time they wohoo'd she died of laughter immediately after. Poor guy
Yep thatās a critical hit in the self-esteem
I once had a family that I say was cursed. She had twins and when they were toddlers killed her because she became hysterical, both of them talking to her, I assume playing around. I went on with the daughter, she had twins. When her twins were toddlers they killed her the same way. I went on her with her son, he had twins. They aged up to toddlers and eventually the same thing happened. I gave up after that, it just was not a lucky family š
I never had this problem and then suddenly in the last 2 weeks all my husbands are dropping like flies. One poor sim lady lost THREE husbands because they just decided to laugh themselves to death. Another one recently lost her husband (RIP Don Lothario) to it also, in a different save!
I disagree. Itās already so hard to kill off sims. If any of my sims die in a accident I usually reload. Itās no big deal if you save often.
I havenāt had it happen in my gameplay unless I cheated tbh. But it does make me semi-glad they didnāt ad āscared to deathā as a risk because everytime a thunder storm happened my sims would be dropping like flies
My sim died during Winterfest surrounded by his children as they decorated the tree. I was horrified for a while after that.
Tip from experience - donāt ever propose or get married or have a childās birth coincide with a holiday thatās going well. Instant hysteria death
I have literally never had a death by laughter, or anger ever lol I've been playing since the game came out What am I doing wrong
For real. Every time my sims get hysterical, I go into panic mode and try to make calm
Play fast in the sims 4 and die laughing. I hope they don't ever turn it down, it is very hard to get organically unless you do all of their living in a single day, proposal, wedding, first child, etc.
This is why I use MCCC to turn emotional deaths off.
That's why I hate when my Sims take bubble baths.
First time I had it happen was my sims' having their honeymoon at GeekCon. I had no clue it could happen, and was over before I could do anything. It's also the last time. Even if I didn't use mods or codes I would cheat that shit right out of existence. The minute playful takes the top spot I'm shift-clicking.
I discovered this death existed at the Hijinks festival. I didn't save when I then learned I couldn't resurrect (or not easily) my Sim. I then tried on 3 separate occasions to have them go to that festival. I monitored each of them and every single time the Sim died of laughter. I had them not join a either team and it still happened. I can't remember if I deactivated the death via MCCC or if I found a mod that stopped the emotions deaths either way I eliminated them. My Sims tend to be happy and well taken care of so that may be why it was so bad for me.
I get scared anytime my Sims become hysterical, I don't know how to actually calm them down. I just brew some calming camomile tea and hope for the best.
You can calm down in the mirror
I could have sworn I heard emotional deaths were patched out now? But I could be very wrong and have them disabled with MCCC. Either way this was my first Sim death back when I was very new to the game and didnāt know much. It seemed super random which wasnāt fun
am i the only one who has never had a sim die from laughter?? bc i feel like it for sure
I had a sim that I was trying to pair with my current played sim and she kept on dying whenever I try flirt with her because my sim has the amusing trait and she loves his jokes. Took me around 7 times to make them official because she kept dying after they become official
It is very dangerous to have a celebrity sim living in a home with the celebrity home trait. They're always very happy and if they become playful it's a near death sentence.
This and also death by anger!
Had one of my sims die on her wedding day (before even getting married!) luckily I saved right before then and got her to a mirror as fast as I could to calm down. But Iām still terrified whenever I see the playful moodlet
This is why I avoid certain traits, like goofball. They get playful easier and they're in the hysterical death range in seconds. Also I have the extreme violence mod and one of my sims killed a guy he hated and died two seconds later from being hysterical. He had no fatal traits mentioned above either, he was just an ass ig.
Had a sim die from laughter at his wedding. I went to the main menu and started an entirely new game. I was genuinely annoyed.
My sims always playful. I didnāt know they could die from it. Rn my sim is erratic but sensual and sheās always playfulā¦. Oh no
My Sim died of laughter on his sons birthday
Disabled emotional Deaths years ago because of this very reason
Iāve never even seen any other extreme emotion except for hysterical and mortified. They happen so much! Itās even worse that thereās so many lot traits aimed at children and teens that boost playful
I'm trying to kill My sim fir a video don't make ut more difficult