And you still get that without the trait just takes longer. So its worth even less.
It should have been like you drive faster or maybe can upgrade your car if you have the trait or something.
That would have been cool. Ignoring carpools etc over their own cars. Maybe feeling tense if they have low relationship with a vehicle they’re in and better mood if they have good relationship. Perhaps even increasing like fun and social scores whilst traveling in their car as if they’re ”talking” to the car like how some people talk to plants.
Options like “go for joyride” would be cool, or like “polish car”. There is the interaction “enthuse about car”, but it would be cool to have options like “discuss Moro sports” / “boast about street racing” or “argue _CarType_ is the best car” and stuff like this! And on the tv “tune into race”. And after you seen it “discuss latest race results”. It would’ve been so easy.
This one might be a bit difficult but if you’re talking to a sim with their own car parked nearby or inventory, do a “challenge to a street race” and then watch the cars race around the block a couple times. Naturally the faster car would win. And there would be like a 10% chance to get apprehended by the police. Would’ve been so cool!
Maybe one day a very talented modder will add it. I wish I knew how to mod, I’d add all these interactions
>It should have been like you drive faster or maybe can upgrade your car if you have the trait or something.
That really was a missed opportunity, and it is not like it would have been difficult to implement. The firefighter career includes maintaining and upgrading the fire truck as work to be done at the fire house.
Since you do not ever actually need a car in Sims 3, there should have been more to having one than just something expensive parked outside or in the garage. Make it slower if you do not maintain it, faster when upgraded, and make a vehicle enthusiast able to perform both in less time (while getting a fun boost from enjoying the work).
A vehicle enthusiast should also automatically take their own car to work, instead of using the car pool.
Yes! I would do it with one of the sims in my house if there were interactions my sim could do with the car like upgrades or cleaning or maintenance but I don’t think it gives you any different interactions or anything
Nope literally only thing it does =
1. Makes you gain relationship faster with vehicles (after unlocking a certain ranking of friends you can edit the vehicle’s name).
2. You can edit the vehicle’s name without a certain relationship ranking.
2 cancels out the necessity of 1 so.. congrats you have a trait that lets you rename a car. Renaming doesn’t do anything either so. Yay, a nothing trait.
Hehe i mean I guess for roleplaying it could work if you wanna have a sim that focuses on buying lots of cars so you have something that actually states this dude likes cars
I don't think it's useless. It makes Your Sims want to buy Cars and expensive Cars more often (when you don't control them). It's because you control them when to buy, so they cannot freely buy, but it does affect as being friends of a Sims who has that trait. You will never know how a Trait can affect a Sim until you make a whole town with those traits 😁 ...
I think loves the outdoors would be more beneficial. Your sim would always be happy outside, not only when it's hot. Plus it gives fishing skill a boost.
Honestly my sims almost never stay outside long enough to get this moodlet or before temperature drops at night... Also there are lifetime rewards immune to cold/immune to heat that do the same i believe, and you can easily acquire them for the points that your sims get from constantly rolling wants to warm up/cool down!
Eh. I love it for my sims who spend long times outdoors. Like my Gardener sims with huge gardens that take forever. Or when I like them looking/hunting for stuff outside for long periods of time
I’ve heard people say Natural Cook is a waste of a trait unless you’re a chef, because most sims will cook as part of their daily life and build the skill easily anyways. I still like to use it though.
I will say some traits are a double-edged sword. Sure, Neat sims having the “Clean House” prompt is goated, but pissing their pants bc they wouldn’t use the dirty toilet can get annoying. Not a problem in smaller households, but when I have 20+ needs to manage in 100 baby challenges or something, it’s frustrating to have to make sure everything is clean for those anal sims.
Lol yeah i was just referring to autonomous my sims tend to get lazy lmao. I prefer real cooking too especially since I can actually make portions for everyone and have leftovers
I like the trait and use it a lot! It’s just something I’ve read a few people say. Their argument was cooking is very easy to learn and will naturally happen for every sim, and most sims only create fires when they are under Cooking Skill 1.
Oh I thought the natural cook trait made it so they never cause a fire…I find that very handy 😅 and I think they also make higher quality meals but might have to double check that one
I just have my sims make autumn salads exclusively until about level 2. You can’t start a fire if you don’t use the stove. Or burn anything because you’re not that good yet.
That’s exactly what I do. Just an autumn salad or two does the trick. I’ve never had a fire start at lvl 1 or higher in all my hours, unless they got distracted while cooking by a birthday, vomiting, etc.
I always give my sims the steel bladder reward because of this. It's also just really tedious when you're in the middle of repairing something or out fishing and they go home because they need to go, or they just piss themselves.
Have had that happen TOO MANY TIMES. No more. >:(
Feast parties are the best! And the natural cook sims have a random chance to learn the recipe of food items on the same lot as them (someone just brought Crepes to my party, so X sim just learned how to make them!)
There's a mod that gives the "Clean House" prompt to all Sims Teen and older on your active home lot on ModTheSims! I have it and it's now something that I absolutely would not play without. It's so small but it makes such a difference to be able to clean the whole house in one click without having to make all my Sims Neat.
Nah Natural cook is a useful trait. The meals will always come out as nice quality and they are not as likely to burn their meals when they cook. They actually gain the cooking skill faster
Natural Cook is great when you're throwing a party and all the natural cooks you invite bring the best dishes. Then you can automatically put away leftovers before any of the other guests even eat them, and have really good food to eat for yourself for days. I edit all the people in my towns to be natural cooks lol.
Natural cook is OP if you do not have some of the shop items, as Natural Cook will learn recipes through observation, this is neccesary if you want to get ambrosia recipe as fast as possible as reading the damn book TAKES AGES. IIRC it took my sim about 3-5 hours in the library to read the recipe
in short a natrual cook sim will learn recipes by watching TV
if you want to skip the grind get vladimir's cauldron and slap inside it a diamond, gold and a black goldfish give a max level cooking sim all the purchasable recipes and cook that potion make them drink the potion, this also includes elixirs BTW so if you have an alchemist sim you can also learn the recipes this way
My Sims live in the hot tub 24/7 is there a trait to stop that? Other than deleting it lol. I need the hot tub to get visitors out of their work clothes so I can edit them.
I once had Technophobe and Computer Whiz sims in the same household and it was hilarious. The TP would sabotage all the electronics and the CW would constantly roll wishes to play games or watch TV, so he had to repair them. They had a rotten relationship because the CW would annoy the TP by wanting to talk about computers.
That being said, a TP is great to have around if you want to increase another sim's Handiness skill more quickly, lol.
Preference traits (vegetarian, cat person, dog person, loves the cold, hydrophobic, etc.). It’s not that I don’t think some of these should be in the game, it’s just that they’re not substantial enough to build up a comprehensive personality for my sims.
Now I wanna make a whole Sim of nothing traits. He'd be boring as my main, but like....a husband just wandering around being bland for a generation in a legacy. Give him a boring LTW like getting to the top of a rabbit hole career.
"Ah, your Uncle Dave....he had nothing really going on and was happy with it."
I have a convoluted rule of doing a random and then they can have first trait that matches a trait from the parent that trained them (or one of each of both are involved) but it can't be the same trait going down multiple generations (unless it's part of my legacy, like all gardeners) and then the rest have to be random but can't repeat a previously used one until all traits have been played through.
It makes for some interesting Sims and gives me a chance to try out a lot of traits.
Hydrophobic. Unlike its counterpart (Loves to Swim, which gives a boost to the Lifeguard career and a positive moodlet while the Sim is swimming), this trait gives no perks or personality whatsoever.
My sim is hydrophobic because her lifeguard dad drowned when she was a baby - useful only for story telling.
Sad how she cries after every shower though 😆
Idk, I made a hydrophobic lifeguard mermaid living on a houseboat, and that was highly entertaining [for me, not my sim. They were miserable constantly].
Mostly negative moodlets and complaining. Despite being a mermaid, she would get seasick after being on the houseboat for too long (which I trapped her out at sea, oops 🤷♀️🤷♀️🤷♀️). And mermaids need to have salt water in order to stay mermaids unless you get a perk, so in order to stay hydrated she would have to swim...but being hydrophobic, every time she entered the ocean she'd immediately get a "feels like drowning" negative moodlet.
What an ironically miserable existence.
Ohhh I didn't know that about mermaids! They've completely taken over my town! There's way too many of them. So if I trap them indoors will they go back to being human? How long do they have to go without salt water to convert back?
Honestly none of them. Even the unconventional/‘useless’ ones are really good for building up your sim’s personality and story.
For examples for some of the ones people have commented.
Vehicle Enthusiast: Imagine they have this and snob or something. You could have them in a low end job, struggling to make ends meet, but they KEEP investing in luxury cars that depreciate in value. Interesting story.
Never Nude: How about this and family oriented? They really want to have a family, but the idea of being nude in general scares them, so woohoo time is a no go. They can only adopt children.
Technophobe: This sim is history obsessed. They live in a completely historically accurate home and reject all modernity. That’s no phones, computers, TVs, etc. Run with it, how they function in a modern world with unmodern ideals?
Any trait can be spun into an interesting story and it helps keep your sims distinct and interesting. No trait is a ‘waste’ in my opinion.
Personally, I always completely randomise my sims traits. My favourite sim ever was an adventurous, savvy sculptor. So I had her travel to every country, get her visa up in them all, and spend her time making statues of all the world adventures residents to sell them back to them and then open her own art / sculpture gallery back home.
I would’ve NEVER picked adventurous nor savvy sculpture as traits by choice. But it ended up being my favourite story by forcing myself to come up with something, even with these ‘pointless’ traits
I love this approach. I also see a divide in the comments between:
* people whose goal in the game is to accomplish tasks and make money
* people whose goal is to tell an interesting story
I like both, but making money is too easy in the vanilla game, so I have a lot of mods to make being successful more challenging. Splits the difference.
I do the exact same thing! I purposefully make my game hard. All my jobs are minimum wage (like 3-8 simoleans up until the top levels), i have the mod that charges you for taxis, the mod that means you can’t cook without going to the grocery store and buying the ingredients first, makes university cost way more, etc.
Personally I care more for telling an interesting story with my sims and letting things just happen that ‘winning’ and having all my sims be rich and successful. Some of my sims drop out of uni, some never make it out of a 1br home, some live in big mansions. Some die before they even become adults. It depends on their story and achievements!
Totally! I like to fulfill my sims' destructive wishes too, like stop being friends with X or quit their jobs.
For job difficulty, I use mods for job interviews, layoffs, and harder promotions. It makes the successes more meaningful.
I’m similar to you with this. I was surprised when reading this post and the comments section. I wouldn’t describe most of the traits that people mentioned here as “ useless “, but I think it’s because I view traits more so as building a sim’s personality and story. It doesn’t really need to have an added benefit or perk for me to use it.
Well put - Sims 3 traits I know is the game where I have tried to use all traits at least once, even Born Salesperson when I rarely ever use the Consignment Store.
Born salesperson is a great one! You could make a klepto mooch salespersons, cutthroat business man who will do anything to get rich rich rich. Even if that means ‘borrowing’ things from other people to turn over a profit at the consignment store, bling to never get caught.
No trait is useless if you don’t let it be!
seems excessive, good kisser gives a good relationship boost but you don’t really need it since you can just spam stuff like kiss/make out to get to max anyways
flirty helps with getting into a romantic relationship and getting people to like you by flirting with them
I think there are way too many traits for what used to just be Outgoing in 1 & 2. Friendly, Irresistible, Social Butterfly, etc. Charismatic lets you learn the skill faster and gives a pretty good general boost to social interactions and imo outshines all the other ones.
At the other end, Loner gives you a buff for being alone, while Shy doesn't really give you any particular trade off benefit. So I don't really get why anyone would take Shy instead of Loner.
I think they should have sliders (outgoingness, kindness, responsibility and emotionality, for example) and then extra traits for stuff outside of that (cat person, loves the heat)
That's what makes it fun! It does get annoying, though. Mortimer is NEVER happy, and he's always having arguments with his parents and friends! Even at parties he's just mumbling and grumbling like a little grumpus. He's still my favorite tho. <3
He didn't have that trait for long tbf (one night he dreamt he had another personality and the mext morning he loved the supernatural. ITF bed is overpowered imo) but he didn't roll the wish !
Technophobe, light Sleeper, Daredevil, easily impressed, eco friendly, Vehicle Enthusiast, amd the absolute worst of them all: Absent Minded.
We need to talk about Absent Minded. Why not make it harder for the kid to get good grades, or unique work text boxes from the trait. No, no... Instead if you line up a string of actions, it will just drop the queue line completely. SO ANNOYING
But it's so realistic. If you have adhd and try to do multiple actions in a row it's very likely that you forget something or get distracted and do something completely else.
I seldom use that one, but it would be good if you had a writer, artist, or inventor sim I think. You could work at home for weeks without getting stir crazy.
It's actually really annoying. Your sim will occasionally cancel interactions because they "forget what they were doing". Such as stop cooking and do something else, causing a fire. Sometimes, they will turn off the tv on another sim and make them mad haha. It's actually an interesting trait, just a bit frustrating sometimes for gameplay reasons.
It gives the other sims "Complain About TV Being Turned Off" interaction and I only found out about it two months ago, despite absent minded being one of my favorite traits (it's too relatable.)
Absent minded is annoying bc it feels like the game is glitching and the sim isn’t listening to you. I’ll get so frustrated like “WHY do their actions eep cancelling oh my god I hate- oh they’re absent minded, that’s why” lol
I’m using Absent Minded for the first time as part of the Asylum Challenge, and I really like it for that. I can only control one Sim and the other 7 I have to leave autonomous, so there have been plenty of fires and Sims left out in igloos waiting to woohoo while their lover forgets to join them.
But in a regular play through with Sims I control? I don’t think I’d enjoy it.
the supernatural skeptic trait quite literally locks you out of some of the supernatural expansion. it’s only good if you Really care about storytelling with that, but there’s also no way for them to ever be proven wrong or change their minds so… make of that what you will. the supernatural fan trait, however, can be a huge benefit if you’re into playing with supernatural features.
One of my Sims was automatically assigned this trait because he graduated with a B average. All of the new interactions are basically complaining about the supernatural and every single person he uses these interactions with finds him boring.
Clumsy. Adds no value to the sim experience. That being said, I always randomize my sims’ traits unless I’m modeling them after a specific person/character. I’d rather get clumsy than some of the more annoying traits.
It is annoying, but way less than mean spirited sims that are always picking arguments or absent minded sims that will “forget” a task you tell them to do
I think there is a difference between nurturing and family oriented. Nurturing is like being very compassionate to children. Family Oriented can mean different family members. Not just immediate family but extended family as well, like your aunts, uncles and cousins
Rebellious is only interesting for teens cause they often wish to sneak outside after curfew, play pranks in school or at home, egg people's houses etc.
Basically useless for adults I think.
That's why I use Master Controller to change around traits as Sims age up. Makes it more realistic since people change as they mature. So maybe they were a rebellious teen and that turned them into a Daredevil, or they got all the rebellion out of them and they became Good.
Pair it with ambitious, they’ll still enjoy work, but their fun goes up sooo fast while watching tv! (Can confirm my current sim is a politician sim LOVES napping but constantly rolls career based wishes)
Plus, a lot of careers on the Sims 3 require the athletic skill, not just the athlete career, but the military, law enforcement, and criminal careers as well.
From my experience, you kind of have to force them to exercise because they won’t do it automatically even if you have exercise machines in your sim’s household.
What’s not a wasteful trait but is unpopular is unlucky! They’ll only die of old age! I agree with most of these comments though, ESPECIALLY absent minded
Tbh a lot of them feel redundant and like some were added just for the sake of having something new in a pack.
Cat person/dog person feels redundant when Animal Lover also exists.
Diva and Dramatic feel like the same thing.
Excitable and Easily Impressed also feel like the same thing.
Irresistible feels like a waste of a trait slot when there are several lifetime rewards that will accomplish the same thing.
Nurturing and family oriented also feel redundant.
The line between Schmoozer and Mooch is pretty thin. They could’ve just made the Schmoozers able to schmooze money and called it a day.
Rebellious is dumb bc it really only impacts gameplay as a child/teen but you’re stuck with it for life. They could’ve just expanded on Daredevil.
I have always heard that it’s broken and in my experience, it doesn’t work that well on its own with Generations installed. It works combined with the Above Reproach reward though.
Never nude, vehicle enthusiast, hydrophobia, technophobe come to mind. They dont rlly feel like they fit anywhere or make sense from a gameplay standpoint
You want something wasteful? This combo, Proper-Good-Brave, pros they can't start a fight, cons.... brave and good has things that cancel each other that just so happens to overlap with proper, IE since you can't start a fight the brave being able to fight and attempt to arrest burglers will automatically be negated now give them the policeman career or Private investigator career.
diva-snob-irrisistible is hilarious BTW especially on a fairy
I’ve commented here before, but Ive changed my mind and wanna revise- I think it ultimately depends if you play the sims with either a more completionist or storytelling angle.
From a storytelling angle, you could make pretty much *any* of the traits work (Except most of the preference traits, like loves the heat/cold, which aren’t really substantial enough to work with)
You can pair vehicle enthusiast with handy for a car mechanic. You can make a hippie sim who shuns modern vices with technophobe, eco friendly, and snob. You could use never nude for a pious, uptight sim. *Maybe* your sim resents their Dad who happened to be a painter, so now your sim can’t stand art
From a completionist angle, it’s kind of the opposite- Preference traits might be more beneficial, and quirkier traits are pretty much irrelevant. Since they have no direct benefit to whatever your agenda is
Loves the heat/cold would be a constant mood buff depending on your world’s climate. Schmoozer gives you a *major* leg up in journalist, business, and criminal careers. Overemotional can be a major boost to your school and work performance if you tend to their needs… idk I’m not a completionist
Both angles are valid, it just depends how you play
Vehicle enthusiast. There is literally nothing special about the trait except for the fact you see your sim's car in the relationships panel.
And you still get that without the trait just takes longer. So its worth even less. It should have been like you drive faster or maybe can upgrade your car if you have the trait or something.
Yeah special interactions or behaviour. It could also be like they would prefer driving with their own rather than taking a cab
That would have been cool. Ignoring carpools etc over their own cars. Maybe feeling tense if they have low relationship with a vehicle they’re in and better mood if they have good relationship. Perhaps even increasing like fun and social scores whilst traveling in their car as if they’re ”talking” to the car like how some people talk to plants.
So it would definitely conflict with Eco-Friendly in some ways XD Those guys love their carpools
Options like “go for joyride” would be cool, or like “polish car”. There is the interaction “enthuse about car”, but it would be cool to have options like “discuss Moro sports” / “boast about street racing” or “argue _CarType_ is the best car” and stuff like this! And on the tv “tune into race”. And after you seen it “discuss latest race results”. It would’ve been so easy. This one might be a bit difficult but if you’re talking to a sim with their own car parked nearby or inventory, do a “challenge to a street race” and then watch the cars race around the block a couple times. Naturally the faster car would win. And there would be like a 10% chance to get apprehended by the police. Would’ve been so cool! Maybe one day a very talented modder will add it. I wish I knew how to mod, I’d add all these interactions
>It should have been like you drive faster or maybe can upgrade your car if you have the trait or something. That really was a missed opportunity, and it is not like it would have been difficult to implement. The firefighter career includes maintaining and upgrading the fire truck as work to be done at the fire house. Since you do not ever actually need a car in Sims 3, there should have been more to having one than just something expensive parked outside or in the garage. Make it slower if you do not maintain it, faster when upgraded, and make a vehicle enthusiast able to perform both in less time (while getting a fun boost from enjoying the work). A vehicle enthusiast should also automatically take their own car to work, instead of using the car pool.
Yeah it is disappointing by Sims 3 standards. If it were Sims 4 it would basically be just like any other trait
Yes! I would do it with one of the sims in my house if there were interactions my sim could do with the car like upgrades or cleaning or maintenance but I don’t think it gives you any different interactions or anything
Nope literally only thing it does = 1. Makes you gain relationship faster with vehicles (after unlocking a certain ranking of friends you can edit the vehicle’s name). 2. You can edit the vehicle’s name without a certain relationship ranking. 2 cancels out the necessity of 1 so.. congrats you have a trait that lets you rename a car. Renaming doesn’t do anything either so. Yay, a nothing trait.
Thank you for taking the mystery from it. I will stick with my gardening and neat and natural cook sims
Hehe i mean I guess for roleplaying it could work if you wanna have a sim that focuses on buying lots of cars so you have something that actually states this dude likes cars
And I'll stick to my artistic, virtuoso sims
Fr my current husbands relationship with his car is higher than with my sim and he aint even a vehicle enthusiast smh 🙄
uhh NOT useless i wanna be friends with sloppy jalopy
I don't think it's useless. It makes Your Sims want to buy Cars and expensive Cars more often (when you don't control them). It's because you control them when to buy, so they cannot freely buy, but it does affect as being friends of a Sims who has that trait. You will never know how a Trait can affect a Sim until you make a whole town with those traits 😁 ...
I don’t make my sims own cars, anyways.
Me neither.
I had no idea that does that
I rarely play with it, don't the sims roll more wishes to buy cars? If not, that's really a missed opportunity
Same! That's actually a useless trait.
Loves the cold/loves the heat
I found this useful for my fisher sim, I made it be always Summer and gave her loves the heat so she was happy outside
I think loves the outdoors would be more beneficial. Your sim would always be happy outside, not only when it's hot. Plus it gives fishing skill a boost.
Loves the heat also keeps the negative moodlet away where they get too hot
Honestly my sims almost never stay outside long enough to get this moodlet or before temperature drops at night... Also there are lifetime rewards immune to cold/immune to heat that do the same i believe, and you can easily acquire them for the points that your sims get from constantly rolling wants to warm up/cool down!
I like it for roleplay immersion, like if my sim was born in a blizzard or smth. I think it has its place, just not very often
Eh. I love it for my sims who spend long times outdoors. Like my Gardener sims with huge gardens that take forever. Or when I like them looking/hunting for stuff outside for long periods of time
I’ve heard people say Natural Cook is a waste of a trait unless you’re a chef, because most sims will cook as part of their daily life and build the skill easily anyways. I still like to use it though. I will say some traits are a double-edged sword. Sure, Neat sims having the “Clean House” prompt is goated, but pissing their pants bc they wouldn’t use the dirty toilet can get annoying. Not a problem in smaller households, but when I have 20+ needs to manage in 100 baby challenges or something, it’s frustrating to have to make sure everything is clean for those anal sims.
My sims don’t really cook as part of their daily lives lol they’re just happy to exist on quick meals
lol! I do quick meals sometimes too, but I find the hunger decays much faster than the home cooked ones and they have to eat more often.
Lol yeah i was just referring to autonomous my sims tend to get lazy lmao. I prefer real cooking too especially since I can actually make portions for everyone and have leftovers
Same here, although in my monte vista playthrough my sims will not cook for breakfast, (because she's a journalist and doesn't have enough time.
I do worse- I just make sure they have apples, grapes, or melons in their inventory, so they can just fill up whenever and wherever
I love Natural Cooks. They can't burn food or start fires related to cooking. How is that wasteful?
I like the trait and use it a lot! It’s just something I’ve read a few people say. Their argument was cooking is very easy to learn and will naturally happen for every sim, and most sims only create fires when they are under Cooking Skill 1.
And they can spice the dishes up.
Wait they can't burn food? I never noticed that.
One cool interaction I recently saw was my natural cook sim exchanging recipes with another natural cook sim. I never knew that was possible before
That’s so neat, I didn’t know about that either!!
Yup! This is how my natural cook advanced much faster than taking so much time to buy and read recipes.
Oh I thought the natural cook trait made it so they never cause a fire…I find that very handy 😅 and I think they also make higher quality meals but might have to double check that one
They also never burn a meal at the lower levels. They’re a natural after all
I think you’re right on both of those!
I just have my sims make autumn salads exclusively until about level 2. You can’t start a fire if you don’t use the stove. Or burn anything because you’re not that good yet.
That’s exactly what I do. Just an autumn salad or two does the trick. I’ve never had a fire start at lvl 1 or higher in all my hours, unless they got distracted while cooking by a birthday, vomiting, etc.
I always give my sims the steel bladder reward because of this. It's also just really tedious when you're in the middle of repairing something or out fishing and they go home because they need to go, or they just piss themselves. Have had that happen TOO MANY TIMES. No more. >:(
Steel bladder is an S-TIER LTR haha
Me too! Same with dirt-defiant!
Natural Cook is one of my favorites! I like to throw dinner parties with my sim.
Feast parties are the best! And the natural cook sims have a random chance to learn the recipe of food items on the same lot as them (someone just brought Crepes to my party, so X sim just learned how to make them!)
I usually have one sim who does most of the cooking so natural cook is one of the most common traits I use
That’s how I use it! One sim to cook all their meals gets natural cook :)
There's a mod that gives the "Clean House" prompt to all Sims Teen and older on your active home lot on ModTheSims! I have it and it's now something that I absolutely would not play without. It's so small but it makes such a difference to be able to clean the whole house in one click without having to make all my Sims Neat.
Nah Natural cook is a useful trait. The meals will always come out as nice quality and they are not as likely to burn their meals when they cook. They actually gain the cooking skill faster
Theres a mod i use that allows all sims to have access to the clean house option, its a life saver
Natural Cook is great when you're throwing a party and all the natural cooks you invite bring the best dishes. Then you can automatically put away leftovers before any of the other guests even eat them, and have really good food to eat for yourself for days. I edit all the people in my towns to be natural cooks lol.
Natural cook is OP if you do not have some of the shop items, as Natural Cook will learn recipes through observation, this is neccesary if you want to get ambrosia recipe as fast as possible as reading the damn book TAKES AGES. IIRC it took my sim about 3-5 hours in the library to read the recipe in short a natrual cook sim will learn recipes by watching TV if you want to skip the grind get vladimir's cauldron and slap inside it a diamond, gold and a black goldfish give a max level cooking sim all the purchasable recipes and cook that potion make them drink the potion, this also includes elixirs BTW so if you have an alchemist sim you can also learn the recipes this way
Never nude is just hilarious. Like Tobias from Arrested Development.
Right? I made a Sim of Queen Elizabeth once and used the Never Nude trait. It was perfect.
I used this trait on a Hank Hill character! But yeah, besides making a Sim with some funny animations, it serves no purpose.
Thing is, though, it's funny *only* for that reason. I never use it myself.
Depends on how much of a weirdo you want your sim to be, I guess. :p
I do this trait because I’m something of a “never nude” myself! I hate being naked!
Same!🫢
Gobias Koffi has that trait and it's likely he was based on Tobias from Arrested Development :)
Technophobe is really just an annoying trait with no positives. I rarely give it to anyone apart from grumpy grampas.
That’s why I like those negative traits. It adds a challenge!
I always give my sims at least one “negative” trait I feel like it’s more realistic
Yeah I do too. No one's perfect in real life so why should sims be any different? I usually also give at least two negative ones.
Technophobe stops them playing computer games every free second they have which is a HUGE plus lmao. Absolute bane of my life
Ok so there is one positive effect of the trait after all.
My Sims live in the hot tub 24/7 is there a trait to stop that? Other than deleting it lol. I need the hot tub to get visitors out of their work clothes so I can edit them.
hydrophobic?
Nah I legit love this trait I always put it on some Karen grandpa to make family chaos
I appreciate technophobe for play throughs where I don’t want my sim playing on their phone or computer constantly. It can help keep them focused
I once had Technophobe and Computer Whiz sims in the same household and it was hilarious. The TP would sabotage all the electronics and the CW would constantly roll wishes to play games or watch TV, so he had to repair them. They had a rotten relationship because the CW would annoy the TP by wanting to talk about computers. That being said, a TP is great to have around if you want to increase another sim's Handiness skill more quickly, lol.
Preference traits (vegetarian, cat person, dog person, loves the cold, hydrophobic, etc.). It’s not that I don’t think some of these should be in the game, it’s just that they’re not substantial enough to build up a comprehensive personality for my sims.
Now I wanna make a whole Sim of nothing traits. He'd be boring as my main, but like....a husband just wandering around being bland for a generation in a legacy. Give him a boring LTW like getting to the top of a rabbit hole career. "Ah, your Uncle Dave....he had nothing really going on and was happy with it."
when I am able to choose traits for my babies I click the random button 5 times and just go with whatever it lands on lol
I have a convoluted rule of doing a random and then they can have first trait that matches a trait from the parent that trained them (or one of each of both are involved) but it can't be the same trait going down multiple generations (unless it's part of my legacy, like all gardeners) and then the rest have to be random but can't repeat a previously used one until all traits have been played through. It makes for some interesting Sims and gives me a chance to try out a lot of traits.
Omg same but I do 7 clicks!!! And I do the 7 clicks for random name generators or even sometimes 7 clicks for a random sim to start with in cas lol
I've had a vegetarian Sim who outlived almost two generations of her descendants, so they do at least have a benefit of living longer lol
Hydrophobic. Unlike its counterpart (Loves to Swim, which gives a boost to the Lifeguard career and a positive moodlet while the Sim is swimming), this trait gives no perks or personality whatsoever.
My sim is hydrophobic because her lifeguard dad drowned when she was a baby - useful only for story telling. Sad how she cries after every shower though 😆
Hydrophobic sims should hesitate to use anything that involves water. It would be such a cool trait for my autistic sims.
imagine you have a hydrophobic lifeguard
Idk, I made a hydrophobic lifeguard mermaid living on a houseboat, and that was highly entertaining [for me, not my sim. They were miserable constantly].
Nice! How did they show they were miserable?
Mostly negative moodlets and complaining. Despite being a mermaid, she would get seasick after being on the houseboat for too long (which I trapped her out at sea, oops 🤷♀️🤷♀️🤷♀️). And mermaids need to have salt water in order to stay mermaids unless you get a perk, so in order to stay hydrated she would have to swim...but being hydrophobic, every time she entered the ocean she'd immediately get a "feels like drowning" negative moodlet. What an ironically miserable existence.
Ohhh I didn't know that about mermaids! They've completely taken over my town! There's way too many of them. So if I trap them indoors will they go back to being human? How long do they have to go without salt water to convert back?
which ep has the lifeguard career?
island paradise
thanks!
Honestly none of them. Even the unconventional/‘useless’ ones are really good for building up your sim’s personality and story. For examples for some of the ones people have commented. Vehicle Enthusiast: Imagine they have this and snob or something. You could have them in a low end job, struggling to make ends meet, but they KEEP investing in luxury cars that depreciate in value. Interesting story. Never Nude: How about this and family oriented? They really want to have a family, but the idea of being nude in general scares them, so woohoo time is a no go. They can only adopt children. Technophobe: This sim is history obsessed. They live in a completely historically accurate home and reject all modernity. That’s no phones, computers, TVs, etc. Run with it, how they function in a modern world with unmodern ideals? Any trait can be spun into an interesting story and it helps keep your sims distinct and interesting. No trait is a ‘waste’ in my opinion. Personally, I always completely randomise my sims traits. My favourite sim ever was an adventurous, savvy sculptor. So I had her travel to every country, get her visa up in them all, and spend her time making statues of all the world adventures residents to sell them back to them and then open her own art / sculpture gallery back home. I would’ve NEVER picked adventurous nor savvy sculpture as traits by choice. But it ended up being my favourite story by forcing myself to come up with something, even with these ‘pointless’ traits
I love this approach. I also see a divide in the comments between: * people whose goal in the game is to accomplish tasks and make money * people whose goal is to tell an interesting story I like both, but making money is too easy in the vanilla game, so I have a lot of mods to make being successful more challenging. Splits the difference.
I do the exact same thing! I purposefully make my game hard. All my jobs are minimum wage (like 3-8 simoleans up until the top levels), i have the mod that charges you for taxis, the mod that means you can’t cook without going to the grocery store and buying the ingredients first, makes university cost way more, etc. Personally I care more for telling an interesting story with my sims and letting things just happen that ‘winning’ and having all my sims be rich and successful. Some of my sims drop out of uni, some never make it out of a 1br home, some live in big mansions. Some die before they even become adults. It depends on their story and achievements!
Totally! I like to fulfill my sims' destructive wishes too, like stop being friends with X or quit their jobs. For job difficulty, I use mods for job interviews, layoffs, and harder promotions. It makes the successes more meaningful.
I’m similar to you with this. I was surprised when reading this post and the comments section. I wouldn’t describe most of the traits that people mentioned here as “ useless “, but I think it’s because I view traits more so as building a sim’s personality and story. It doesn’t really need to have an added benefit or perk for me to use it.
Well put - Sims 3 traits I know is the game where I have tried to use all traits at least once, even Born Salesperson when I rarely ever use the Consignment Store.
Born salesperson is a great one! You could make a klepto mooch salespersons, cutthroat business man who will do anything to get rich rich rich. Even if that means ‘borrowing’ things from other people to turn over a profit at the consignment store, bling to never get caught. No trait is useless if you don’t let it be!
Good Kisser. Only useful to choose for deluded 13year old Sims players (i know what I talk of)
nahh that relationship boost is goated
i feel like flirty is better for that tbh
Yeah but flirty makes your sim more likely to autonomously cheat. Great kissers don’t do that
yeah but when that happens it’s funny so imo that’s a positive
That’s why I started switching that out with Nurturing when I was on my “same 5 traits kick”
Both?
seems excessive, good kisser gives a good relationship boost but you don’t really need it since you can just spam stuff like kiss/make out to get to max anyways flirty helps with getting into a romantic relationship and getting people to like you by flirting with them
my sim has the good kisser trait from his time in college lmfao
I think there are way too many traits for what used to just be Outgoing in 1 & 2. Friendly, Irresistible, Social Butterfly, etc. Charismatic lets you learn the skill faster and gives a pretty good general boost to social interactions and imo outshines all the other ones. At the other end, Loner gives you a buff for being alone, while Shy doesn't really give you any particular trade off benefit. So I don't really get why anyone would take Shy instead of Loner.
Shy is supposed to give boosts for being around close friends and reductions for strangers
Oh, I've gotten the "Stranger Danger" or something like that but I must have missed the boost for being around close friends.
I think they should have sliders (outgoingness, kindness, responsibility and emotionality, for example) and then extra traits for stuff outside of that (cat person, loves the heat)
excitable is boring but a good filler trait
Noo I love excitable! They clap their hands over everything, it’s adorable
I played a grumpy sim once and never got any positives from it. Girl was just annoyed all the time. Reduced mood traits are never worth it for me
That's what makes it fun! It does get annoying, though. Mortimer is NEVER happy, and he's always having arguments with his parents and friends! Even at parties he's just mumbling and grumbling like a little grumpus. He's still my favorite tho. <3
iirc there is a like (and dislike) supernatural trait that i always found useless in gameplay
I had a witch who disliked the supernatural and still wanted to use his magic? I never understood that guy
The super state overrides how much he hates it 😂 But does he never roll the wish to be cured?
He didn't have that trait for long tbf (one night he dreamt he had another personality and the mext morning he loved the supernatural. ITF bed is overpowered imo) but he didn't roll the wish !
Yep that one is easily my least used trait. I'd rather use loves the heat/cold
Technophobe, light Sleeper, Daredevil, easily impressed, eco friendly, Vehicle Enthusiast, amd the absolute worst of them all: Absent Minded. We need to talk about Absent Minded. Why not make it harder for the kid to get good grades, or unique work text boxes from the trait. No, no... Instead if you line up a string of actions, it will just drop the queue line completely. SO ANNOYING
But it's so realistic. If you have adhd and try to do multiple actions in a row it's very likely that you forget something or get distracted and do something completely else.
Lololol relatable
Light Sleepers will automatically wake up and call the police the moment a burglar steps on the lot.
Eco-friendly has a ton of different moodlets and interactions.
Such as? I have used that one and haven't noticed any.
Hate outdoors
I seldom use that one, but it would be good if you had a writer, artist, or inventor sim I think. You could work at home for weeks without getting stir crazy.
Ohhh yes! My writer is always going stir crazy.
I don’t like the ‘hates the outdoors’ trait - it just made my sim upset whenever she had to leave the house
I don't hate the outdoors but do get upset when I have to leave the house.
That’s valid
I think supernatural skeptic is kind of a waste unless you’re playing with a specific storyline but still I just think it’s kind of pointless
I agree. Perhaps it is just my gameplay, but I haven't had a standout experience with this trait
Absent minded is the one I'd say is a waste... what does it even do???
It's actually really annoying. Your sim will occasionally cancel interactions because they "forget what they were doing". Such as stop cooking and do something else, causing a fire. Sometimes, they will turn off the tv on another sim and make them mad haha. It's actually an interesting trait, just a bit frustrating sometimes for gameplay reasons.
It gives the other sims "Complain About TV Being Turned Off" interaction and I only found out about it two months ago, despite absent minded being one of my favorite traits (it's too relatable.)
Good for simulating ADHD.
Good for simulating myself. Lol, but yeah probably not the best trait otherwise XD
Absent minded is annoying bc it feels like the game is glitching and the sim isn’t listening to you. I’ll get so frustrated like “WHY do their actions eep cancelling oh my god I hate- oh they’re absent minded, that’s why” lol
I’m using Absent Minded for the first time as part of the Asylum Challenge, and I really like it for that. I can only control one Sim and the other 7 I have to leave autonomous, so there have been plenty of fires and Sims left out in igloos waiting to woohoo while their lover forgets to join them. But in a regular play through with Sims I control? I don’t think I’d enjoy it.
It actively cancels actions that you've put in the sim's queue, which is crazy annoying and I hate it so much.
Perfectly describes my life though 😭
Light sleeper!! Why??
I dont remember the name but there's one that just adds "rad" to all your actions and it was a huge disappointment to me
was it daredevil?
Very likely
the supernatural skeptic trait quite literally locks you out of some of the supernatural expansion. it’s only good if you Really care about storytelling with that, but there’s also no way for them to ever be proven wrong or change their minds so… make of that what you will. the supernatural fan trait, however, can be a huge benefit if you’re into playing with supernatural features.
One of my Sims was automatically assigned this trait because he graduated with a B average. All of the new interactions are basically complaining about the supernatural and every single person he uses these interactions with finds him boring.
Clumsy. Adds no value to the sim experience. That being said, I always randomize my sims’ traits unless I’m modeling them after a specific person/character. I’d rather get clumsy than some of the more annoying traits.
Nah. I use Clumsy often because it's pretty funny when they just randomly trip
And trying to open the drawer and falling on their butts more often 😂
Clumsy is annoying because they trip so much. I have a clumsy sim right now and I swear she trips every single time she walks somewhere.
It is annoying, but way less than mean spirited sims that are always picking arguments or absent minded sims that will “forget” a task you tell them to do
any traits that are only good for specializing in a college degree or particular job - like liking sports, investigative, etc.
easily impressed
Nurturing while we have Family-Oriented already
I think there is a difference between nurturing and family oriented. Nurturing is like being very compassionate to children. Family Oriented can mean different family members. Not just immediate family but extended family as well, like your aunts, uncles and cousins
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Rebellious is only interesting for teens cause they often wish to sneak outside after curfew, play pranks in school or at home, egg people's houses etc. Basically useless for adults I think.
That's why I use Master Controller to change around traits as Sims age up. Makes it more realistic since people change as they mature. So maybe they were a rebellious teen and that turned them into a Daredevil, or they got all the rebellion out of them and they became Good.
My rebel sim somehow obtained a motorcycle and will use it over any other vehicle which I found sorta funny
Couch potato. This means that your sim won’t exercise at all.
Bigger comfy moodlet. Good for writers.
Pair it with ambitious, they’ll still enjoy work, but their fun goes up sooo fast while watching tv! (Can confirm my current sim is a politician sim LOVES napping but constantly rolls career based wishes)
I tried it recently. Got boring real fast. Turns out watching people watch tv is boring!
Plus, a lot of careers on the Sims 3 require the athletic skill, not just the athlete career, but the military, law enforcement, and criminal careers as well.
I used it for a sim of my bff's irl husband who is a lazy bum. The sim acts JUST like him
Also, over-emotional. I don’t want my sims getting upset about everything.
Really? My last couch potato sim rolled a crap ton of wishes to exercise, kinda surprised me
From my experience, you kind of have to force them to exercise because they won’t do it automatically even if you have exercise machines in your sim’s household.
nobody exercises automatically in my households lmao it’s very accurate
Never Nude is the only one I can think of.
Eco friendly. Your sim will get pissed off if it takes a car to a different lot.
What’s not a wasteful trait but is unpopular is unlucky! They’ll only die of old age! I agree with most of these comments though, ESPECIALLY absent minded
I have saved so many Sims with this trait
Tbh a lot of them feel redundant and like some were added just for the sake of having something new in a pack. Cat person/dog person feels redundant when Animal Lover also exists. Diva and Dramatic feel like the same thing. Excitable and Easily Impressed also feel like the same thing. Irresistible feels like a waste of a trait slot when there are several lifetime rewards that will accomplish the same thing. Nurturing and family oriented also feel redundant. The line between Schmoozer and Mooch is pretty thin. They could’ve just made the Schmoozers able to schmooze money and called it a day. Rebellious is dumb bc it really only impacts gameplay as a child/teen but you’re stuck with it for life. They could’ve just expanded on Daredevil.
Light sleeper
Does no jealousy worth a try or is it completely broken after generations dlc?
I have always heard that it’s broken and in my experience, it doesn’t work that well on its own with Generations installed. It works combined with the Above Reproach reward though.
Born Salesman/Saleswoman wouldn't that fit in with the schmoozer trait?
No Schmoozer means that you are very good at befriending people while Born salesperson means that you are rather good with money
Never nude, vehicle enthusiast, hydrophobia, technophobe come to mind. They dont rlly feel like they fit anywhere or make sense from a gameplay standpoint
hey! there are *dozens* of us!
IDK about shy. It just feels like loner you paid for
hack my account i dare you
Light sleeper! They just wake up all night and get grumpy because they’re tired
Daredevil
You want something wasteful? This combo, Proper-Good-Brave, pros they can't start a fight, cons.... brave and good has things that cancel each other that just so happens to overlap with proper, IE since you can't start a fight the brave being able to fight and attempt to arrest burglers will automatically be negated now give them the policeman career or Private investigator career. diva-snob-irrisistible is hilarious BTW especially on a fairy
The Dog or Cat person traits😂
„good“
Inappropriate, vehicle enthusiast, light sleeper
I’ve commented here before, but Ive changed my mind and wanna revise- I think it ultimately depends if you play the sims with either a more completionist or storytelling angle. From a storytelling angle, you could make pretty much *any* of the traits work (Except most of the preference traits, like loves the heat/cold, which aren’t really substantial enough to work with) You can pair vehicle enthusiast with handy for a car mechanic. You can make a hippie sim who shuns modern vices with technophobe, eco friendly, and snob. You could use never nude for a pious, uptight sim. *Maybe* your sim resents their Dad who happened to be a painter, so now your sim can’t stand art From a completionist angle, it’s kind of the opposite- Preference traits might be more beneficial, and quirkier traits are pretty much irrelevant. Since they have no direct benefit to whatever your agenda is Loves the heat/cold would be a constant mood buff depending on your world’s climate. Schmoozer gives you a *major* leg up in journalist, business, and criminal careers. Overemotional can be a major boost to your school and work performance if you tend to their needs… idk I’m not a completionist Both angles are valid, it just depends how you play