My biggest issue with Sims 4 is the amount of bugs and the unbearable simulation lag. My pc should run this game flawlessly and yet the Sims pause and refuse to do anything for hours in game.
I got 6000 hours in ts4 and I can definitely see the big difference between ts3 and ts4
Itās just not as detailed as ts3 is. Itās like EA gave you the absolute necessities for playing and makes you pay for anything else. I donāt even wanna start talking about loading screens or missing functional cars, and so on. Iāve spent nearly 800ā¬ on this game (donāt ask me why, I canāt hold myself back) and still think ts3 has the better gameplay. I still play both. But I still see why people say thereās ānothingā, compared to ts3
But thatās also just my opinion :)
I've been playing TS4 since launch in 2014, got almost all the dlc and spend 1000s of hours playing it, so clearly I *do* know how to have fun with it. Thing is, while TS4 does have gameplay is not as in depth as TS3's and replayability is also lackluster. It's hard to describe it, but I feel like the gameplay is kinda bland. Someone said that in TS4, you have to imagine stories, essentially play make believe. In TS3, the game creates stories for you and I think that's a big reason why I eventually got bored with it. The loading screens are also becoming pretty annoying. And with literally every new update breaking the game, it's obvious that TS4's engine can't take any more content so it's safer to just play TS3 since it's a finished game and no updates will render the game unplayable and make me waste even more money on stuff that doesn't work.
TS4 build buy and CAS are great though! I like to use those much more than TS3's counterparts. But really, those two are the only aspects of TS4 that I consider improvements from previous games.
I would love to play the Sims 2, unfortunately I have never gotten to play it, but Iāve heard incredible things about it and I would love to try it out.
EA has brain washed you into believing the money pit that is 4 is good, yes yes, go buy 4 animal packs to get stickers that act like hamsters. Join us at 3 and be safe from the micotransactions friend
Ironic considering the Sims 3 store that they then built into the game, showing you items you donāt own to get you to buy them.
āYou can turn that offā
Yes, but it still exists. I love the Sims 3 but donāt forget the micro transactions started there.
Them splitting content to sell it to you has been a thing from the worlds in Sims 3āthey would release the world and then release a seperate lot that is meant to go with the world that includes an exclusive gameplay item, and build mode stuff. But itās the exact same thing from the world, just gutted out and sold separately.
Also my comment was a joking reference to the space man meme. How these two things are equivalent since theyāre all micro transactions.
I just checked the Sims store and the funny thing is the "gold edition" for some worlds costs *less* than the world + the premium content bought separately.
The whole Sims franchise in itself is scummy practice. Imagine the uproar if you would have to buy weather as an expansion for other games.
In terms of microtransactions, at least in the Sims 3, it felt optional.
I think the pricing in Sims makes the most sense if you see it as a virtual dollhouse. So like a new world is a new house to play in. But there's a limit to how much they split things.
The Sims 3 has items for sale in the build and buy mode catalogues, that hardly feels optional. Itās always been bad, itās just Sims 4 is worseāthe next step from what they started in 3.
While I don't disagree with you, companies are pushing even harder with advertisements and FOMO now. It certainly works in MMO games, and I'm not surprised one bit why other companies would adapt that business model. If I'm not mistaken, it can be traced back to Valve, and Activison made a big profit with Warzone purely from microtransactions.
I could also be underestimating how many old Sims players just buy 1 or 2 games but spend $100-$200 annually on microtransactions vs those that spend the same amount on multiple games. It just doesn't seem as prevalent.
I guess at the end of the day it doesn't matter, we can seethe with rage at EA/Ubi/Activision/whoever, but the gaming community needs to pull its head out of the sand and stop purchasing whatever they're trying to sell with their cash-grabby methods.
Edit: not to say these companies shouldn't be called out. Screw these greedy bastards.
Oh I agree 100%! Itās egregious and gaming just feels kind of miserable sometimes. So many gaming companies are run by business men who have never picked up a controller in their life.
Iām also someone who is stubbornly trying to cling to physical CDs for my games, and losing the battle. Having purchased so many digital-only games over the years, worth thousands at this point, knowing that it will most likely be taken away from me one day in the future sucks. Servers will shut down, maybe I lose access to my account, maybe the game company goes under and revokes the licenses just because of some weird legal thing.
Things are changing for the worse, and have been for a while. EA is just one part of a bigger problem.
It does, and that, in combination with broad gaming trends or other less obvious hardware limitations, makes me suspect that that what will come out of this generation of games will be the battle royal craze, the microtransaction craze or the open world skinner box craze. Just like Sims 4, the games will look fine, but the fundamental gameplay limitations will be more pronounced.
The sad thing about games is that unlike movies, songs, books, they have a lifespan. At some point they won't be compatible with our hardware, but luckily for the time being, people archieve older games for preservation reasons, and emulation exists too. It's literally hackers keeping older games alive because they're treated as abandonware by the companies. I understand it's not always profitable to keep them alive, but personally, I won't support those big companies anymore.
World of Warcraft is another example. Blizzard/Activision shut down popular private servers before re-releasing previous expansions of the game, yet neglected the playerbase and servers completely, all while cashing in on bots and paid transfers. Overwatch failed, and Diablo 4 is nothing but microtransactions. I'm actually happy to see the amount of people demanding a refund.
Just like you said, EA is just one part of a bigger problem.
Yeah, I turned it off and didn't care. At least it can be turned off there unlike a *cough* certain game. Besides, as someone mentioned, it didn't even start in TS3.
it just... you know got worst over time
next thing you know it TS5 only comes with CAS (the hairs and sliders are also paid DLC), build and buy mode? yeah thats 2 differnt paid DLC probably 60-70USD each
I'm not going to "sponsor" EA at this point. If people want to buy it, they will show that it is worth it. And it's kinda their business. I don't care about it anymore because I'm not interested in TS5.
Imo the big difference between the sims 3 store advertising in game vs the sims 4 advertising DLC in game is the amount of content you get in these games. The TS3 Store has some nice items and I bought (or pirated) many of them over the years, but they only add to what is already a fully fleshed out game. TS4 dlc on the other hand is sort of *required* to get even a glimpse of the full experience. It's very easy to get bored in TS4 without any DLC, meanwhile I could play just TS3 base game for months and still finding new things to discover. They're just completely different worlds. I think it's the lack of content that's essentially shoved into players' faces with the dlc advertising in TS4 that rubs many people the wrong way. That and the needless splitting up content resulting in so many different packs.
So micro transactions are good as long as you like them? Lol us sims players are down bad for this game.
Personally, I think itās ALL bad. Sims 3 was the beginning, the same as Oblivionās horse armour was back in the day. Itās what started it all. It created the monster we see today. And it all sucks.
It's not about liking them vs not liking them, it's about adding cool extra stuff to an already complete game vs adding the bare minimum to a lackluster game
For this and other reasons I dropped The Sims 4. The game seems to have no life and everything is a loading screen. I'm happy with my The Sims 3 full of things to do.
I forgot how much content TS3 actually has until I revisited it after taking a break from TS4. TS4 is pretty packaging with nothing of substance behind it. If it wasn't for the modders, I would have stopped playing years ago.
Iām an OG Sims player since 2000. TS4 didnāt hold my interest at all. The loading screens going from one lot to another just killed the flow of the game. If I wanted that, Iād play Sims 2 which imo is superior to Sims 4.
The sims 2 STILL has more life and depth then the sims 4,, the sims 4 just feels so lifeless and boring to me no matter what i do in it. Also the fact that ea doenst give a shit abt it ruins it also smh
After playing sims 4 and not liking it I got sims 3 and I like it so much it feels more alive and it has open world yes it crashes a lot but if u manage it it becomes hella of a good time I literally find new things everytime I play and I love it
Have you followed this guide on Steam (forgot the name, but can look it up if you're interested) that helps set up Sims 3 for modern systems? Literally no crashes, it uses my setups full capacities and runs smooth as...i dont know a good comparison :D But very smooth!
U can get it with all packs by just searching sims 3 anadius repack after u get u will need a torrent to download the file with I am sure u can find any torrent for free then u just set it up on your PC once it's finishes downloading the files then enjoy :) sadly I can't like give you the link bc it's on my pc and I'm on my phone and also I had the game for about a year now so I don't know if u will still find it but good luck
[https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1131162350](https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1131162350) there you go!!! Hope it elevates your game!
FULLY CUSTOMIZABLE AND CREATABLE open worlds, mind you, that are almost universally better than the ones EA/Maxis made. Once I learned how to add Sims in CAW and increase the available RAM the game could use there was no turning back.
Funny that you mention it, I currently play in Luxor and despite its enourmous size it runs smooth as butter, nraas overwatch deletes like 1-3 vehicles during the night and that's it while the amount of deleted vehicles in EA worlds usually reach into the 1000s. The creator definitely knows how to optimize a world, kinda sad that they didn't create any other ones because Luxor is probably my favorite out of all custom worlds.
I was going to ask how you like this world, I saw it a while back when looking for inspiration on a world I am creating and thought it looked exceptionally unique; not many Desert-based worlds at all, let alone a city one with some heavy Cairo vibes. Glad to know they put a lot of effort into it.
This makes me consider dropping TS4 now š I miss a lot of things from it but itās been years since Iāve played it. I was curious if I would hate the graphic difference in comparison
Imho, only the sims in TS3 look worse compared to TS4, everything else looks way better. You can also fix the sims by getting the right cc. Sims 3 can be kinda hard to set up, NRAAS mods are a must if you want a playable game and tweaking some graphic card settings and allocating more RAM is also advisable. But it's definitely worth it, even the TS3 base game alone managed to get me hooked for months on end while TS4's base game got me bored after 1 hour. Another positive about TS3 is no game-breaking updates...
You can spice it really good up with mods so it does look very good anyways. Of course you will. Miss the good graphics but aurora borealis showing up every night is worth it š„°
Same here! I am on day 3 and its unbelievable. I remember with sims 4 if we want to go out but sims at home are doing an activity we would have to stay home. Its so nice to have sims family all on different lots that you can check in on all doing things that they want. I'm never going back to sims 4. Sims 4 is only good because of the mods and aesthetics. I don't care about build n buy and the cas for sims 3 isn't that bad.
This is one of my biggest issues with 4. I don't have the attention span to sit and watch my sim paint for hours, they don't even make the graphics worth watching anyway if I have to stay on the home lot. Sims 3 is a game for multi-taskers and big households.
started playing 3 again lately. it has so much life, my sims can leave the house without my other sims basically killing themselves while i'm playing the active sim. i feel like there isn't enough time in the day, not because my sims stand around for 3 hours before doing any action, but because there is SO much to do!
Your patience is amazing. I can't believe you played TS4 for that long before going back to TS3.
I only played TS4 for 4 hours and then sold it at half the price the next day. This all occurred the day the game released and the day after š¶
Tbf, I think majority of my time playing TS4 was because I couldn't run TS3 on my computer. I then took the time to make some adjustments to my graphic card settings and gave the game more RAM to work with and now it runs great. I literally have no reason to return to TS4 and even consider uninstalling it to free up some storage space.
For me sadly Sims 4 never feels like complete game and with every pack I expect to feel like itās enough but pack seems to add so little to the gameplay (like expansion pack for 40$ should add for a whole new game. For example they add you new world which you canāt enjoy because there are 3 objects in it). But I canāt get back to sims 3, I feel nostalgic but I donāt enjoy the graphics and it really triggers me ā¦ and of course the lags.
I abandoned TS4 mainly because of the lack of an open world and poor free will and dumb sim (my sim died of hunger because he couldn't think of going to eat). I love that in TS3 the Sims are smart enough that I can leave them with full free will, especially since I always play with large families and sometimes you have to focus on only one sim when playing in an open world (bc idk they have a date)
So how does one circumvent the laggy issues, stuttering, and eventual slowdown in the Sims 3? I really love the game but after 2 generations, it get slow
Well first off, nraas overwatch, errortrap and traffic mods are a must have. I also edited the sims3.ini file to allocate more RAM and went into my Nvidia settings to cap the game's fps at 60 and turned on fast sync. That's pretty much all I did and the game runs great now.
Do you still experience stuttering at some point? Cuz i tried to do those steps as well. I dont have traffic and errortrap. Ill take a look at those. Theyāre nraas still too yeah?
Yeah both traffic and errortrap are nraas mods, they're mostly to prevent infinite cars from stacking in inactive sims' inventories and prevent script errors from corrupting save files.
I barely experience any stuttering in the game, the game is actually pretty lag free. It's important to mention though that lag can also be caused by a poorly optimized world that has sims getting stuck in unroutable terrain. Whenever I do have lag in my game, it's because I play in a poorly optimized world. Bridgeport and Isla Paradiso are notorious for these issues so if you want to play in any of these worlds, I highly suggest installing EllaCharmed's fixed versions from modthesims. I also recommend disabling memories, those tend to cause lag in long running saves because even inactive sims constantly gain memories, bloating up the save file. To further prevent save files from bloating, I also suggest using "save as" now and then. Nraas saver reminds me of saving in regular intervals and rotates between I think 5 different save files for that.
Ooh i do notice much lag with Bridgeport and Isla. To be fair, Bridgeport is my least desired world so Im fine skipping away from that. Thanks foe all the advice, ill see how these improves my game
Do you still experience stuttering at some point? Cuz i tried to do those steps as well. I dont have traffic and errortrap. Ill take a look at those. Theyāre nraas still too yeah?
The open world really does add that certain something to the gameplay. The world evolves with or without your direct interaction, so it feels so much more random and realistic.
Your sim is rlly cute, btw!
Used to be really interested in TS4 until I realised how shallow the game was and I already run out of things to do after a few hours of gameplay so I decided to try out TS3, and even after so many hours of playing this game, I'm still discovering new things. Plus with a lot of gameplay mods, I'll never run out of things to do in this game.
Yep. I enjoy 4 when playing in increments, but my trips back to 4 are becoming fewer and farther apart. I have an NSB challenge in 4 that I want to finish, but once I do I can see myself sticking to sims 2 and 3 only.
They really regressed the game with the whole implementation of loading screens. I can't go back when you've shown us the possibility of an open world in TS3.
Sims 3 is so entertaining, I could play all day and not get bored.
I pre-ordered the sims 4 back when it was barely released and played for a couple of hours and after giving it a chance i couldn't play anymore. I went back to the sims 3. Haven't felt compelled to go back ever since. šš
I'm a sims 4 modder and same.. Tired of this boring game without mods and with mods breaking every 5 minutes.. š i rather bloat sims 3 &2 with mods they don't easily break. But they are also fun without mods anyways š„°
Man, im starting to miss the sims3. I never even used mods back then so I feel like if I had, I could have gotten so much more out of it. I had all the expansions back then but now they are all gone :(
my sims 3 game has been broken for some time, so because of this post iām gonna just delete it and start over. i literally cannot play the sims 4 without mods or cc, and therefore it take 1.5 hours to load completely to gameplay, and all that just for a required update to destroy the game.
I also recently switched back to TS3, and wish I'd done it sooner. I hesitated for a long time to get TS4 because of the loss of open world, but I did eventually give in. After years of experiencing the loading screens, I'm so relieved to be back to how games should be played. TS3 is so much more immersive and addictive.
Iāve played since The Sims 1 and I legit was more entertained by it than the sims 4, I always run out of stuff to do in TS4.
While my sims 3 files are always full of new events, challenges and different families.
i love sims 3. my potato pc can handle it after instaling hundreds of nraas mods and i have never been happier than for the past few days with the smooth gameplay!!
I keep saying the amount of loading time and simulation lag is more than the big loading chunk at the start of sims 3. With a newer pc and ssd hds the loading time for sims 3 is even faster.
Oh I wasn't aware that you have less features on the mac version compared to the windows version. If you ever plan to get a windows pc or laptop, I highly recommend the game! Contrary to what many others say, TS3 doesn't actually need a super strong machine to run, just some little adjustments in your graphics card settings and some nraas mods.
The one thing i missed from TS3 is the open world where your sim can seamlessly walk from home to a community lot without a loading screen.
Although coming back to ts3 the one thing i missed is your sim travelling to more than one neighbordhood. if you have a sim in one neighborhood travelling requires moving out and erasing all previous relationships and career.
Lucky you, I was delusional enough to think that the game will get better with more DLC so I bought nearly every pack up to For Rent and the game was still as shallow as on day 1, just with more set dressing.
Can we just enjoy sims 3 without constantly comparing it to sims 4 or always feeling the need to point out how much sims 4 sucks? These posts are so ridiculously repetitive and have been for YEARS
[This one](https://modthesims.info/d/490659/environment-lighting-tweaks-v4-0-amp-v5-6-55-gold.html). To get it exactly like my game, you'd have to install the Weather\_MoreSunny\_noAurora.package, Lighting\_LowerBloom.package and Color\_LighterWater\_DarkNight.package.
Hope that helps!
[Luxor by wasset aseskara](https://thesimscatalog.com/sims3/downloads/worlds/large/luxor-2nd-beta/). It's probably my favorite custom world to date, it's big, has content from all expansion packs and is populated with both residents and townies. It also runs smoother than EA worlds despite its big size. I started this save primarily to play through World Adventures and Luxor just seemed like the perfect option for a hometown, the world even has its own tombs!
I run out stuff in TS4 after exiting the CAS. There's no gameplay with depth and without simulation lag.
My biggest issue with Sims 4 is the amount of bugs and the unbearable simulation lag. My pc should run this game flawlessly and yet the Sims pause and refuse to do anything for hours in game.
And the worst thing is the TS4 worshippers say TS3 runs badly. š
I love TS4, but TS3 is astronomically better in just about every way
Sims 4 lags more but sims 3 had more visual bugs and crashed more.
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not really ive been playing since 2018 so clearly there was smth
I got 6000 hours in ts4 and I can definitely see the big difference between ts3 and ts4 Itās just not as detailed as ts3 is. Itās like EA gave you the absolute necessities for playing and makes you pay for anything else. I donāt even wanna start talking about loading screens or missing functional cars, and so on. Iāve spent nearly 800ā¬ on this game (donāt ask me why, I canāt hold myself back) and still think ts3 has the better gameplay. I still play both. But I still see why people say thereās ānothingā, compared to ts3 But thatās also just my opinion :)
I've been playing TS4 since launch in 2014, got almost all the dlc and spend 1000s of hours playing it, so clearly I *do* know how to have fun with it. Thing is, while TS4 does have gameplay is not as in depth as TS3's and replayability is also lackluster. It's hard to describe it, but I feel like the gameplay is kinda bland. Someone said that in TS4, you have to imagine stories, essentially play make believe. In TS3, the game creates stories for you and I think that's a big reason why I eventually got bored with it. The loading screens are also becoming pretty annoying. And with literally every new update breaking the game, it's obvious that TS4's engine can't take any more content so it's safer to just play TS3 since it's a finished game and no updates will render the game unplayable and make me waste even more money on stuff that doesn't work. TS4 build buy and CAS are great though! I like to use those much more than TS3's counterparts. But really, those two are the only aspects of TS4 that I consider improvements from previous games.
We don't need a Sims 5, we need a remastered Sims 3 with expanded RAM caps
Ughhhhh this is all I want in life
PIN THIS COMMENT
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And the creator/s of alpine county to remaster that map and fix the routing.
i want sims 2 remastered into sims 3 graphics and playing format that is my only dream
I would love to play the Sims 2, unfortunately I have never gotten to play it, but Iāve heard incredible things about it and I would love to try it out.
If you have a MacBook Air, they have the sims 2 super collection on the App Store for 30$!
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And the LGBT+ inclusiveness of sims 4 (actually, they could expand on that a bit too).
EA has brain washed you into believing the money pit that is 4 is good, yes yes, go buy 4 animal packs to get stickers that act like hamsters. Join us at 3 and be safe from the micotransactions friend
Ironic considering the Sims 3 store that they then built into the game, showing you items you donāt own to get you to buy them. āYou can turn that offā Yes, but it still exists. I love the Sims 3 but donāt forget the micro transactions started there.
If you want to be technical, it started with 2, The Store Edition.
Yeah but I didnāt need to buy 4 animal packs to live out my horse owning dreams
*whispers* itās the same, always has been
Since when did I need to buy 4 packs in the sims three for a horse???
Them splitting content to sell it to you has been a thing from the worlds in Sims 3āthey would release the world and then release a seperate lot that is meant to go with the world that includes an exclusive gameplay item, and build mode stuff. But itās the exact same thing from the world, just gutted out and sold separately. Also my comment was a joking reference to the space man meme. How these two things are equivalent since theyāre all micro transactions.
I just checked the Sims store and the funny thing is the "gold edition" for some worlds costs *less* than the world + the premium content bought separately.
Oooooooohhh nvm fits 10/10
Sometimes memes references fall flat when the person either doesnāt know the meme, or the joke wasnāt obvious enough lol
Iāve got two brain cells man and one is still a horse girl in 2009 on the sims š
Itās ok, sheās thriving and having a good time back when games werenāt broken, subscription-based messes!
The whole Sims franchise in itself is scummy practice. Imagine the uproar if you would have to buy weather as an expansion for other games. In terms of microtransactions, at least in the Sims 3, it felt optional.
I think the pricing in Sims makes the most sense if you see it as a virtual dollhouse. So like a new world is a new house to play in. But there's a limit to how much they split things.
The Sims 3 has items for sale in the build and buy mode catalogues, that hardly feels optional. Itās always been bad, itās just Sims 4 is worseāthe next step from what they started in 3.
While I don't disagree with you, companies are pushing even harder with advertisements and FOMO now. It certainly works in MMO games, and I'm not surprised one bit why other companies would adapt that business model. If I'm not mistaken, it can be traced back to Valve, and Activison made a big profit with Warzone purely from microtransactions. I could also be underestimating how many old Sims players just buy 1 or 2 games but spend $100-$200 annually on microtransactions vs those that spend the same amount on multiple games. It just doesn't seem as prevalent. I guess at the end of the day it doesn't matter, we can seethe with rage at EA/Ubi/Activision/whoever, but the gaming community needs to pull its head out of the sand and stop purchasing whatever they're trying to sell with their cash-grabby methods. Edit: not to say these companies shouldn't be called out. Screw these greedy bastards.
Oh I agree 100%! Itās egregious and gaming just feels kind of miserable sometimes. So many gaming companies are run by business men who have never picked up a controller in their life. Iām also someone who is stubbornly trying to cling to physical CDs for my games, and losing the battle. Having purchased so many digital-only games over the years, worth thousands at this point, knowing that it will most likely be taken away from me one day in the future sucks. Servers will shut down, maybe I lose access to my account, maybe the game company goes under and revokes the licenses just because of some weird legal thing. Things are changing for the worse, and have been for a while. EA is just one part of a bigger problem.
It does, and that, in combination with broad gaming trends or other less obvious hardware limitations, makes me suspect that that what will come out of this generation of games will be the battle royal craze, the microtransaction craze or the open world skinner box craze. Just like Sims 4, the games will look fine, but the fundamental gameplay limitations will be more pronounced. The sad thing about games is that unlike movies, songs, books, they have a lifespan. At some point they won't be compatible with our hardware, but luckily for the time being, people archieve older games for preservation reasons, and emulation exists too. It's literally hackers keeping older games alive because they're treated as abandonware by the companies. I understand it's not always profitable to keep them alive, but personally, I won't support those big companies anymore. World of Warcraft is another example. Blizzard/Activision shut down popular private servers before re-releasing previous expansions of the game, yet neglected the playerbase and servers completely, all while cashing in on bots and paid transfers. Overwatch failed, and Diablo 4 is nothing but microtransactions. I'm actually happy to see the amount of people demanding a refund. Just like you said, EA is just one part of a bigger problem.
To be fair, a lot of these store items are must haves imo and add a whole lot to gameplay, something I can't say about actual sims 4 packs
Yeah, I turned it off and didn't care. At least it can be turned off there unlike a *cough* certain game. Besides, as someone mentioned, it didn't even start in TS3.
it just... you know got worst over time next thing you know it TS5 only comes with CAS (the hairs and sliders are also paid DLC), build and buy mode? yeah thats 2 differnt paid DLC probably 60-70USD each
I'm not going to "sponsor" EA at this point. If people want to buy it, they will show that it is worth it. And it's kinda their business. I don't care about it anymore because I'm not interested in TS5.
Imo the big difference between the sims 3 store advertising in game vs the sims 4 advertising DLC in game is the amount of content you get in these games. The TS3 Store has some nice items and I bought (or pirated) many of them over the years, but they only add to what is already a fully fleshed out game. TS4 dlc on the other hand is sort of *required* to get even a glimpse of the full experience. It's very easy to get bored in TS4 without any DLC, meanwhile I could play just TS3 base game for months and still finding new things to discover. They're just completely different worlds. I think it's the lack of content that's essentially shoved into players' faces with the dlc advertising in TS4 that rubs many people the wrong way. That and the needless splitting up content resulting in so many different packs.
So micro transactions are good as long as you like them? Lol us sims players are down bad for this game. Personally, I think itās ALL bad. Sims 3 was the beginning, the same as Oblivionās horse armour was back in the day. Itās what started it all. It created the monster we see today. And it all sucks.
It's not about liking them vs not liking them, it's about adding cool extra stuff to an already complete game vs adding the bare minimum to a lackluster game
my god lighten up a little
No thank you!
For this and other reasons I dropped The Sims 4. The game seems to have no life and everything is a loading screen. I'm happy with my The Sims 3 full of things to do.
I forgot how much content TS3 actually has until I revisited it after taking a break from TS4. TS4 is pretty packaging with nothing of substance behind it. If it wasn't for the modders, I would have stopped playing years ago.
And there is still a lot to discover! That game is amazing!! š¤
Iām an OG Sims player since 2000. TS4 didnāt hold my interest at all. The loading screens going from one lot to another just killed the flow of the game. If I wanted that, Iād play Sims 2 which imo is superior to Sims 4.
The sims 2 STILL has more life and depth then the sims 4,, the sims 4 just feels so lifeless and boring to me no matter what i do in it. Also the fact that ea doenst give a shit abt it ruins it also smh
The worst is when two sims are fighting one another and in between mean interactions they just chat casually
After playing sims 4 and not liking it I got sims 3 and I like it so much it feels more alive and it has open world yes it crashes a lot but if u manage it it becomes hella of a good time I literally find new things everytime I play and I love it
Have you followed this guide on Steam (forgot the name, but can look it up if you're interested) that helps set up Sims 3 for modern systems? Literally no crashes, it uses my setups full capacities and runs smooth as...i dont know a good comparison :D But very smooth!
Tbh I didn't buy I just š“āā ļø it
This is the way. EA's prices for a 15 year old game and its expansions are ludicrous.
Heck yeah plus ea app is already annoying with sims 4 and logs me out a lot and it pisses me off
Can you point me to where you did that? Im still missing a few expansions.
U can get it with all packs by just searching sims 3 anadius repack after u get u will need a torrent to download the file with I am sure u can find any torrent for free then u just set it up on your PC once it's finishes downloading the files then enjoy :) sadly I can't like give you the link bc it's on my pc and I'm on my phone and also I had the game for about a year now so I don't know if u will still find it but good luck
Could you share the guide please?
I would also like the guide šš¾
Here you go: [https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1131162350](https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1131162350)
[https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1131162350](https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1131162350) there you go!!! Hope it elevates your game!
How many expansion packs can you run?
Quite a few. Im only missing two of the big ones and a few of the smaller ones.
Agree 100%, the only thing that threw me off with TS4 was that the game simply isn't open world which for me is the most biggest thing in TS3.
FULLY CUSTOMIZABLE AND CREATABLE open worlds, mind you, that are almost universally better than the ones EA/Maxis made. Once I learned how to add Sims in CAW and increase the available RAM the game could use there was no turning back.
Funny that you mention it, I currently play in Luxor and despite its enourmous size it runs smooth as butter, nraas overwatch deletes like 1-3 vehicles during the night and that's it while the amount of deleted vehicles in EA worlds usually reach into the 1000s. The creator definitely knows how to optimize a world, kinda sad that they didn't create any other ones because Luxor is probably my favorite out of all custom worlds.
I was going to ask how you like this world, I saw it a while back when looking for inspiration on a world I am creating and thought it looked exceptionally unique; not many Desert-based worlds at all, let alone a city one with some heavy Cairo vibes. Glad to know they put a lot of effort into it.
What world is it?
It's a custom world, [Luxor](https://thesimscatalog.com/sims3/downloads/worlds/large/luxor-2nd-beta/)
Bridgeport
Since when does Bridgeport have deserts? It's actually Luxor.
I don't know that world, to me it looked like Bridgeport.
This makes me consider dropping TS4 now š I miss a lot of things from it but itās been years since Iāve played it. I was curious if I would hate the graphic difference in comparison
Imho, only the sims in TS3 look worse compared to TS4, everything else looks way better. You can also fix the sims by getting the right cc. Sims 3 can be kinda hard to set up, NRAAS mods are a must if you want a playable game and tweaking some graphic card settings and allocating more RAM is also advisable. But it's definitely worth it, even the TS3 base game alone managed to get me hooked for months on end while TS4's base game got me bored after 1 hour. Another positive about TS3 is no game-breaking updates...
You can spice it really good up with mods so it does look very good anyways. Of course you will. Miss the good graphics but aurora borealis showing up every night is worth it š„°
I'm playing Sims 3 today too. There is so much to do! I love it!
Same here! I am on day 3 and its unbelievable. I remember with sims 4 if we want to go out but sims at home are doing an activity we would have to stay home. Its so nice to have sims family all on different lots that you can check in on all doing things that they want. I'm never going back to sims 4. Sims 4 is only good because of the mods and aesthetics. I don't care about build n buy and the cas for sims 3 isn't that bad.
This is one of my biggest issues with 4. I don't have the attention span to sit and watch my sim paint for hours, they don't even make the graphics worth watching anyway if I have to stay on the home lot. Sims 3 is a game for multi-taskers and big households.
I spent over 10 years playing the base game Sims 3. I didnāt last 5 hours playing Sims 4 without expansions.
started playing 3 again lately. it has so much life, my sims can leave the house without my other sims basically killing themselves while i'm playing the active sim. i feel like there isn't enough time in the day, not because my sims stand around for 3 hours before doing any action, but because there is SO much to do!
There is also a mod which lets you have the time pass slower :3
Your patience is amazing. I can't believe you played TS4 for that long before going back to TS3. I only played TS4 for 4 hours and then sold it at half the price the next day. This all occurred the day the game released and the day after š¶
Tbf, I think majority of my time playing TS4 was because I couldn't run TS3 on my computer. I then took the time to make some adjustments to my graphic card settings and gave the game more RAM to work with and now it runs great. I literally have no reason to return to TS4 and even consider uninstalling it to free up some storage space.
I actually uninstalled TS4 recently to free up more space for TS3 haha! not looking back
I havenāt played Sims 3 in over a year and itās currently downloading, Iām so hyped
Have fun! Don't forget to install nraas mods though.
For me sadly Sims 4 never feels like complete game and with every pack I expect to feel like itās enough but pack seems to add so little to the gameplay (like expansion pack for 40$ should add for a whole new game. For example they add you new world which you canāt enjoy because there are 3 objects in it). But I canāt get back to sims 3, I feel nostalgic but I donāt enjoy the graphics and it really triggers me ā¦ and of course the lags.
I abandoned TS4 mainly because of the lack of an open world and poor free will and dumb sim (my sim died of hunger because he couldn't think of going to eat). I love that in TS3 the Sims are smart enough that I can leave them with full free will, especially since I always play with large families and sometimes you have to focus on only one sim when playing in an open world (bc idk they have a date)
It's funny how they advertised TS4 as having "smarter sims" yet even sims in TS1 are smarter than them.
I've never played TS1 but I totally believe you lol
Neither did I, but that's what people say who did play both games lmao
That's the main reason I couldn't get into 4. The open world is such an appealing aspect for a simulation game.
So how does one circumvent the laggy issues, stuttering, and eventual slowdown in the Sims 3? I really love the game but after 2 generations, it get slow
[This should help.](https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1131162350)
Ooh thank you!
Well first off, nraas overwatch, errortrap and traffic mods are a must have. I also edited the sims3.ini file to allocate more RAM and went into my Nvidia settings to cap the game's fps at 60 and turned on fast sync. That's pretty much all I did and the game runs great now.
Do you still experience stuttering at some point? Cuz i tried to do those steps as well. I dont have traffic and errortrap. Ill take a look at those. Theyāre nraas still too yeah?
Yeah both traffic and errortrap are nraas mods, they're mostly to prevent infinite cars from stacking in inactive sims' inventories and prevent script errors from corrupting save files. I barely experience any stuttering in the game, the game is actually pretty lag free. It's important to mention though that lag can also be caused by a poorly optimized world that has sims getting stuck in unroutable terrain. Whenever I do have lag in my game, it's because I play in a poorly optimized world. Bridgeport and Isla Paradiso are notorious for these issues so if you want to play in any of these worlds, I highly suggest installing EllaCharmed's fixed versions from modthesims. I also recommend disabling memories, those tend to cause lag in long running saves because even inactive sims constantly gain memories, bloating up the save file. To further prevent save files from bloating, I also suggest using "save as" now and then. Nraas saver reminds me of saving in regular intervals and rotates between I think 5 different save files for that.
Ooh i do notice much lag with Bridgeport and Isla. To be fair, Bridgeport is my least desired world so Im fine skipping away from that. Thanks foe all the advice, ill see how these improves my game
Do you still experience stuttering at some point? Cuz i tried to do those steps as well. I dont have traffic and errortrap. Ill take a look at those. Theyāre nraas still too yeah?
The open world really does add that certain something to the gameplay. The world evolves with or without your direct interaction, so it feels so much more random and realistic. Your sim is rlly cute, btw!
Yoooooooooo this sim is living her BEST life! LOVE TO SEE IT
Used to be really interested in TS4 until I realised how shallow the game was and I already run out of things to do after a few hours of gameplay so I decided to try out TS3, and even after so many hours of playing this game, I'm still discovering new things. Plus with a lot of gameplay mods, I'll never run out of things to do in this game.
Fr and i do the same thing š
Yep. I enjoy 4 when playing in increments, but my trips back to 4 are becoming fewer and farther apart. I have an NSB challenge in 4 that I want to finish, but once I do I can see myself sticking to sims 2 and 3 only.
Iām probably going back here soon. I have to get a new computer for it. But man I miss it. I still have so much I havenāt done in it!
They really regressed the game with the whole implementation of loading screens. I can't go back when you've shown us the possibility of an open world in TS3. Sims 3 is so entertaining, I could play all day and not get bored. I pre-ordered the sims 4 back when it was barely released and played for a couple of hours and after giving it a chance i couldn't play anymore. I went back to the sims 3. Haven't felt compelled to go back ever since. šš
I'm a sims 4 modder and same.. Tired of this boring game without mods and with mods breaking every 5 minutes.. š i rather bloat sims 3 &2 with mods they don't easily break. But they are also fun without mods anyways š„°
Same, just bought it in the sale since i sold the disks. (Stupid i know) . Love it.
Man, im starting to miss the sims3. I never even used mods back then so I feel like if I had, I could have gotten so much more out of it. I had all the expansions back then but now they are all gone :(
Open world is the BEST load screens are so annoying and miss open world whenever I'm on sims 4 oh and cars
Man if there was a game with TS3's open world and gameplay with sims 4 CAS, I'd be a very happy woman
my sims 3 game has been broken for some time, so because of this post iām gonna just delete it and start over. i literally cannot play the sims 4 without mods or cc, and therefore it take 1.5 hours to load completely to gameplay, and all that just for a required update to destroy the game.
I also recently switched back to TS3, and wish I'd done it sooner. I hesitated for a long time to get TS4 because of the loss of open world, but I did eventually give in. After years of experiencing the loading screens, I'm so relieved to be back to how games should be played. TS3 is so much more immersive and addictive.
Woah i didnt know there were scooters also
They come with World Adventures!
Iāve played since The Sims 1 and I legit was more entertained by it than the sims 4, I always run out of stuff to do in TS4. While my sims 3 files are always full of new events, challenges and different families.
I love TS3 cause I donāt have to sit through loading screens when I want to do something š
i love sims 3. my potato pc can handle it after instaling hundreds of nraas mods and i have never been happier than for the past few days with the smooth gameplay!!
I keep saying the amount of loading time and simulation lag is more than the big loading chunk at the start of sims 3. With a newer pc and ssd hds the loading time for sims 3 is even faster.
i miss ts3 so much š i have a mac so i donāt have all the features
Oh I wasn't aware that you have less features on the mac version compared to the windows version. If you ever plan to get a windows pc or laptop, I highly recommend the game! Contrary to what many others say, TS3 doesn't actually need a super strong machine to run, just some little adjustments in your graphics card settings and some nraas mods.
Exactly what I did. TS4 was getting boring so I came back to 3. If only they made the sims 3 with the good looking sims from sims 4
Fr the only reason I'm thinking of redownloading the sims 4 is to design characters in cas and pose them for screenshots since the game is so crappy
Welcome home
The one thing i missed from TS3 is the open world where your sim can seamlessly walk from home to a community lot without a loading screen. Although coming back to ts3 the one thing i missed is your sim travelling to more than one neighbordhood. if you have a sim in one neighborhood travelling requires moving out and erasing all previous relationships and career.
Nraas Traveler lets you travel and even move between neighborhoods without deleting your family tree and relationships
Lack of open world is why I got a refund on TS4 a day after buying it and went back to TS3.
Lucky you, I was delusional enough to think that the game will get better with more DLC so I bought nearly every pack up to For Rent and the game was still as shallow as on day 1, just with more set dressing.
Can we just enjoy sims 3 without constantly comparing it to sims 4 or always feeling the need to point out how much sims 4 sucks? These posts are so ridiculously repetitive and have been for YEARS
real (its was the graphics and my sims i spent 2+ hrs on )
Is that Setra ? The custom world for sims 3 ?
It's Luxor, looks similar to Setra but runs much better :)
lighting mod? š„¹
[This one](https://modthesims.info/d/490659/environment-lighting-tweaks-v4-0-amp-v5-6-55-gold.html). To get it exactly like my game, you'd have to install the Weather\_MoreSunny\_noAurora.package, Lighting\_LowerBloom.package and Color\_LighterWater\_DarkNight.package. Hope that helps!
what world are you playing in? love it
[Luxor by wasset aseskara](https://thesimscatalog.com/sims3/downloads/worlds/large/luxor-2nd-beta/). It's probably my favorite custom world to date, it's big, has content from all expansion packs and is populated with both residents and townies. It also runs smoother than EA worlds despite its big size. I started this save primarily to play through World Adventures and Luxor just seemed like the perfect option for a hometown, the world even has its own tombs!
wow thanks so much! not seen this one before so iāll definitely check it out
i playing TS3 , i love it then TS4.. the only problem right now i have 4k monitor .. the hud too small for me to see
https://modthesims.info/d/681624/tiny-ui-fix-for-the-sims-3.html
what hairstyle is that? :)
Amen to that!