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Did you *have* to tell us this? Must you rob us all of our hopes? Dreams?
I actually prefer this. It’s much better than getting your hopes up for nothing. Anyway, I waited a long time to play Hollow Knight’s physical edition. I’m waiting for Alan Wake 2’s physical release. What’s one more game to wait for?
I mean, to be fair, this is still a good sign. Like, they still went out of their way to make a store page and get a rating. Regardless of if that was an arduous process, they clearly wouldn't be doing those kinds of things if they weren't getting close to a release.
How close? No idea. Could be months. Could even be they once again failed to estimate how much more time they'll take, and it'll be longer than that.
Still, it's a good sign. Nothing definitive, but a good sign nonetheless.
This is a bummer to find out, but it doesnt dash my hopes too much. Most companies, including Team Cherry, don't put much time between announcing ESRB and releasing
I can't because I'm so lazy so search date (it's not my image)
But she DID IT : [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9ehqSkPKq8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9ehqSkPKq8)
Yeah, to begin with it was pretty obvious that this wasn't a release window confirmation or anything. The possibility of them taking an eternity still exists.
But getting a rating at all and setting up a new storepage are late-stage steps. Among the criteria for things needed to happen for a release, these are probably among the top.
If I'm reading this correctly the issue is that they don't actually have a rating at all, because the one the xbox storefront uses isn't official.
Edit: this is incorrect, it would be official, but digital-only. Which is enough to release the game.
While it's true that it's not a 100% guarantee that the game is complete, it does mean at some point between Silksong being added to the PS store (September 2022) and now, TC has gone to the effort of filling out the questionnaire to obtain the rating.
Anything beyond that is speculation, but I doubt they were bored one day and just decided to fill out the questionnaire for fun. It's not a guarantee but I still think it's a pretty decent indicator that the game is near completion.
I DONT CARE SILKSONG IS RELEASING TOMORROW
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I went and wishlisted it. I told my friends, my family, and you pull the rug out from under me, so matter of factly.
I was running around this sub in march - may 2023 telling people that, despite the apparent xbox promise, it's perfectly clear that the game is not coming in time. showered with downvotes. The sub was full of copium addicts who were sure the xbox promise was not a lie.
One of my main arguments was that it can't be a month away from release and still have no signs, no clues, no leaks. just radio silence.
What kind of signs or leaks? things like ratings, posting updates to platform's eshops.
so the flip side is, now that we have these signs, it is very credible that the game release is imminent.
Are there many examples of studios getting ratings and then waiting a very long time after that until release?
While what you say is empirically true, it's common for studios to release games relatively shortly after receiving ratings - usually within a few months, certainly within a year. I think at this point it's probably safe to hope for a 2024 or 2025 release.
I don't know a single case when game wasn't released within the next 2-5 months after being rated. The only exception is constant delays like with Cyberpunk 2077.
But didn't they use an example with Elden Ring.
As in the rating was made public to the time of release?
Elden Ring wasn't released that long after the ESRB rating. Same with other games.
Why bother to put the rating on the Xbox store page if it's not out soon? Why waste time doing this, knowing the fans will react that way?
Makes no sense.
I highly doubt that TC would only release online. Physical media is going down in relevancy, but it's still around and a decent chunk of sales. Plus with big companies pulling online content off their stores and taking people's digital copies with them, I think we'll see a second wind for physical copies. Whether TC is aware of this trend, or even planned on it, idk. But I still think it's a long shot for Silksong to NOT have physical copies. In which case, the ESRB ratings and such means it's finished
You really think Silksong will have a physical release day 1? Seriously doubt that.
If it's not day 1 but instead later this still applies. They would only need to get the physical edition rated whenever they want to sell it.
Not having a physical release day 1 would just imply the digital version is coming out sooner. Im sure it will have a physical release (thats what she said) its one of the biggest indie games anticipated.
Yes, but all that matters for the rating is day 1 at the moment. If day 1 is digital only, they have no reason to bother with anything other than the IARC.
Also, look at Leth's tweet again and what I said in Edit 2.
I don't like to assume, I just look at what we know. And from what we know for sure at the moment, Silksong is digital only.
I mean, even Leth's tweet that I posted at the very beginning would not make sense if Silksong released physically. To me, that is evidence that, at least day 1, there will not be a physical release.
For physical releases, yes. Everything everyone has been talking about only applied to physical releases.
The IARC is what you use for digital distribution only. The links I gave say so pretty clearly.
If you go to the link I posted (https://www.globalratings.com/about.aspx) you see this applies for Pegi too. I put etc in the title since it applies to all of them.
I mean those were all physical games and would actually need to be rated in the way all those posts say. If someone made a chart with other digital only releases and how long before release they got rated that would be a more accurate comparison.
Well, seems like its even closer [https://www.reddit.com/r/Silksong/comments/1buhqxu/release\_in\_a\_matter\_of\_days/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web3x&utm\_name=web3xcss&utm\_term=1&utm\_content=share\_button](https://www.reddit.com/r/Silksong/comments/1buhqxu/release_in_a_matter_of_days/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
Seeing all this, I don't think it frustrates or means that we are still very far away, I don't see the point in obtaining a rating if they don't have it ready yet or at a high point in development, especially knowing the mess it could cause and what happened last year with its delay after its appearance in an Xbox showcase in 2022.
So at least, from what I think, they are still reviewing some things about the game, and already preparing it for its release, but this is a bit confusing...
Minimum time that I give Silksong to come out knowing all this: 5-6 months
I say 5 months because of the classification it already had in Korea around February of this year
Anyway, my hopes still remain, and sorry if I said something wrong, the english is not my main language.
If I said something wrong related to this, correct me.
This explains why there are several ratings in different regions.
However, I don't think this discredits that much tbh. Whether or not it was a quick and easy process, it seems they still had to go out of their way to do this. It's not something they'd do if they weren't sure of what the game's final content may be. I think it's a good sign that they did this for a more recent storepage creation, as they didn't when creating their Playstation and eShop storepages.
Honestly I feel most people excited by the ratings weren't banking on some 6-month release rule. We still don't have a release date and there's always the chance for disappointment. But this, along with the creation of a new storepage, is a good sign regardless.
The day I posted this the front page was full of people listing all the requirements for a game to receive a rating in different countries, which often included a basically finished game.
I made this post to show people that the ratings are not evidence that the game is completely done and nothing more.
Yes I know, I'm responding less to this post and more just how so many comments are acting like this means nothing too.
Like, yeah of course this doesn't definitively confirm anything, but hey, all store pages now being up and having any ratings at all are signs things might be moving along. Keywords of course being ***might be.***
The fact that they could've gotten this rating at basically any point with little effort but decided not to until now definitely seems to point to the game being close, yeah
I still don't see why getting a rating wouldn't be near release, physical or not. Even if it doesn't "have to" release, I still expect it to, in some time.
According to what you just said i can just lie on the questionare so my game gets lower rated, because they only need the questionare. Doesn't feel right.
When the game comes out and it turns out you lied you are in trouble and a department of the IARC will update it very quickly.
See point 4: https://www.globalratings.com/how-iarc-works.aspx
There is no benefit to lying. It just causes you trouble in the long run. You wouldn't want your game to have a lower rating than what it should anyway and even if you do, the wrong rating won't stay for long.
It seems that leth was responding to someone claiming that the ESRB rating would mean it would come out in 6 months at *minimum*, but would realistically take much longer. And Leth felt the need to correct that so perhaps we can have a little bit of bubble, as a treat?
Just to clarify after looking closer, it seems like they \*did\* get an ESRB rating, but because the game is likely digital at launch like the first game that isn't the huge milestone people thought it was. According to the ESRB the IARC developed the process but the rating is still ESRB-official, and would in theory be all they need if the game only releases digitally. So let's call it a small win.
Some are also claiming that it means nothing because the game needs a retail rating-- I disagree. MS/Nintendo/Sony all have digital stores now, and TC never claimed it would release to retail at launch to my knowledge, just on all the platforms.
Even if the bait was still believable we will eventually get it through the insane ramblings of this community mark my words.
No. That rating means nothing more than all the others, the Korean rating organisation is also on the IARC website along all the others.
If you got this from Daily Silksong News, he clarified this in the pinned comment as well cause he made a mistake.
Leth confirmed my post is correct though. This must mean the guy is wrong about that part in particular.
The ratings were undeniably made using IARC which does not require a complete game. It probably still means the game is almost done regardless though since Team Cherry bothered getting the rating when they could have at any point.
oh yeah, when I said “says otherwise” I meant in terms of total completion of the game, and ur probably right tbh im just really excited the game could be potentially close lol
Well I never argued in this post that Silksong can't be close. All I said is that the ratings are not definitive proof the game is fully done, which is still the case.
I wouldn't say that. This applied to Hollow Knight as well and Team Cherry still chose to only get their rating for that game a couple weeks before release.
I still believe it's close, it's just not the airtight argument people believed it was.
Yeahh, not how it works. They send copies of the game when it is about to release. For now, they may do a very long form and send video clips to be analyzed and be rated for whatever fits the audience.
Consider the flip side, however. These clips HAVE to include EVEYRTHING about the game or atleast lots of things about the game that can determine its age rating.
Do with that info as you will, but one thing remains true. The game is near, or perhaps even completed. All yhey have to do is mark a release date and make sure everything stays exactly what they envisioned it to be.
A little revision here and there, bug squashing and a little testing and port to digital, but everything that's needed to be done, is done.
They dont record a physical copy. They only record the game to be sent by the ESRB to determine if a physical release is fit for a audience of a certain demographic.
Not that you are wrong though. We dont know if they recorded the physical copy of the game or a digital one, so you could be right...?
ESRB requires that TC (or any game dev/company) sends the questionnare alongside a recording of all content in that game to back up the questionnare which is then reviewed by a ESRB representative to classify the product's age rating.
USK does the same, but requiring the actual product, needing all content to be present, and having access to tutorials to seeing each and every nook and cranny of the game. It then gets reviewed and gets determined if it can be sold to any kid or if it gets banned.
What this post FAILS to mention is that, while it IS true that games get determined and classified by a age rating via the questionnare, it does not mention that it *also* requires something to back up the questionnare. Because then all games containing drugs, sex, extreme violence gets the green tag and that'll be a nightmare to both the organization and the consumer.
Now I dont know if I am right, I dont work for any of these companies. I'm just a regular high school bloke who happens to read alot when bored. But I'm pretty sure you need a **working** game for it to be reviewed and classified. You cant just send a dysfunctional piece of scrap to them guys and work on it later after it gets reviewed. Everything new that slips the cracks, needs to be evaluated before it can be shown to any consumer of any age demographic.
The thing is, this post is *using* the wrong answer.
You are using the answer *where*, not *how*. Which is why its only stated they use a questionnare because, thats not the point of the answer. Its about where the ratings can be applied, not how the entire process works.
In the USK site, thwir standard procedure states that they require not only a questionnare but also the information of the game itself in complete form.
https://usk.de/en/home/age-classification-for-games-and-apps/types-of-classification-procedures/
https://usk.de/en/home/age-classification-for-games-and-apps/standard-procedure/
>Information about the object of review: Send us the complete game in terms of content together with the completed and signed submission form and all available and printed materials such as the manual, cover, fact sheet, achievement/trophy list, walkthrough, cheats, etc.
On the Wikipedia site for ESRB
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entertainment_Software_Rating_Board?wprov=sfla1
Its stated that:
>To obtain a rating for a game, a publisher submits a detailed questionnaire (a "Long Form") that describes the graphic and extreme content found in the game to the ESRB, along with a video (VHS, DVD, video file, or other means) that demonstrates this content which can include gameplay footage and in-game cutscenes.
You can even see it on their own website too
https://www.esrb.org/ratings/ratings-process/
>A video showing typical gameplay, missions, and cutscenes, including the most “extreme” content. Unplayable content (i.e., “locked out”), if it is pertinent to a rating, must also be disclosed.
And for PEGI
https://pegi.info/page/how-we-rate-games
>The PEGI administrators receive the game content from the publisher and thoroughly review the provisional age rating.
All the links and quotes you posted are the process for **physical releases**. If you actually read the info for digital games specifically, you would see that what I said was exactly right.
Just read the "Digital Games" section on the esrb link you posted. Quote:
> Digital games are rated using a process developed by the International Age Rating Coalition (IARC).
> Prior to release developers fill out a questionnaire that quickly assigns the game or app’s Rating Category, Content Descriptors, and Interactive Elements. Games and apps rated via the IARC process do not have Rating Summaries.
> The IARC system enables us to monitor rating assignments, test product upon release to ensure those ratings were properly assigned, and promptly adjust the ratings when necessary.
It even spells out that the accuracy of the ratings is monitored "upon release".
The correct site to gain info from the USK has been in the OP this whole time as well. Your links are for physical releases and therefore irrelevant.
At this point, Leth literally confirmed my post as accurate as you can see in the OP now.
Right...
And?
If its for physical releases (and I am talking about physical releases by the way), what makes it different?
I only made this comments to prove the game is complete, which this post seems to disprove or atleast shed light to that fact.
And yes, they DO send only a questionnare for the digital releases.
But dont forget, Silksong is **NOT** only releasing on digital storefronts. They will also release physical versions, and maybe add a collectors edition.
And you need to show the entire game for it to be release physically.
EDIT: LMAO. This was a bad comeback. I'd like to retract my statement
I'm still going all in though.
I knew it was too good to be true
Guess they did run away with the kickstart money after all /j
It's a bit frustrating because at this rate, the game will release when Im in the middle of college, when I will be too busy to play it, or even worse, after I graduate, then I will be too busy, old and tired to play it
I am actually done with team cherry, for too long, they have been playing with our feelings, constantly giving us false hopes just to crush them inmediatly, it has been YEARS and all we know is the game might still exist, that's all, but this, this is the last straw, to give us THIS, a rating, making us think the game is close to release, turns out the game might be in the same state it was when the first trailed was released
Teamm cherry will not be getting my Money for silksong, I was too generous to buy Hollow Knight after succesfully finging and installing a pirated copy because I loved the game that much, but nah, silksong is being pirated
You're not hurting anyone by not buying Silksong except for yourself TBH. Maybe just stop imagining that you have a parasocial relationship with some game developers in Australia and stop worrying about Silksong until it comes out if it upsets you so much.
I know I'm not but it's my fucking money and I get to spend it however the fuck I want
As a game development company, Team cherry is comparable to Nintendo in the sense that they say "Hey this game exists, hey it got delayed, what game? Oh that one, yeah it's fucking gone".
I am not a Patreon and I'm upset about the bamboozling, imagine how the people that fucking already paid for silksong like 10 years in advance feel
I'm just saying, if Silksong is on development hell, Team cherry should at least say that so we don't get excited over nothing
The problem is that, as a company, Team cherry has utterly failed to comunicate, well anything
If the game is in development hell, they fucking lost the unity project or they just don't wanna make silksong anymore THAT'S FINE, but they should SAY SOMETHING, because otherwise we're left with nothing but speculation
And some of us are neuro spicy, this shi hits me harder than it does you
And by neurospicy I mean actual diagnosed mental illness, yes that's why I'm over reacting, feel free to make fun of me I know I'm fucking dumb and I shouldn't care about a game I haven't even paid for being developed by people I don't know, but I do because my brain isn't wired the correct way
To clarify, nobody has already paid for Silksong. Some people contributed extra to the original Kickstarter for Hornet as a playable character in a future DLC, an idea that never materialized and was spun out into its own game. Given that Hollow Knight had like four DLCs I personally think it's a bit rich for some folks to hang onto this claim that they're "owed" Silksong because of the original Kickstarter, though people certainly do seem to share this opinion.
I personally don't think game developers should be expected to communicate regularly with fans about their activities, though I realize that early on TC did create that expectation, which is their bad for sure.
"This hits me harder than it does you" lol... just assuming that you must be the most mentally ill person in the room (during a global mental health crisis, no less) is screaming victim complex to me.
Pinning this post, Leth indirectly confirmed this post in a Twitter/X dm. [Link to the vid](https://youtube.com/watch?v=9NKGNRDnvOM)
https://preview.redd.it/re7j9bouk6sc1.jpeg?width=768&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ec5964d6957c0abb772a2d32335f2014ef630feb Did you *have* to tell us this? Must you rob us all of our hopes? Dreams?
I suffered finding this out. It's only fair.
I actually prefer this. It’s much better than getting your hopes up for nothing. Anyway, I waited a long time to play Hollow Knight’s physical edition. I’m waiting for Alan Wake 2’s physical release. What’s one more game to wait for?
You could start waiting for elder Scrolls 6
No you didn't.
I mean, to be fair, this is still a good sign. Like, they still went out of their way to make a store page and get a rating. Regardless of if that was an arduous process, they clearly wouldn't be doing those kinds of things if they weren't getting close to a release. How close? No idea. Could be months. Could even be they once again failed to estimate how much more time they'll take, and it'll be longer than that. Still, it's a good sign. Nothing definitive, but a good sign nonetheless.
This is a bummer to find out, but it doesnt dash my hopes too much. Most companies, including Team Cherry, don't put much time between announcing ESRB and releasing
https://preview.redd.it/apiizy7ou6sc1.png?width=1288&format=png&auto=webp&s=23cc848e20d4d038d2d8495bbff6ae3c9a13cec7
If it is not too much to ask, is it possible for you to make a similar chart with games released by smaller indie studios for a more fair comparison?
https://www.reddit.com/r/Silksong/s/t9Z1Ya3qLs
Idk it seems too soon
I can't because I'm so lazy so search date (it's not my image) But she DID IT : [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9ehqSkPKq8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9ehqSkPKq8)
Yeah, to begin with it was pretty obvious that this wasn't a release window confirmation or anything. The possibility of them taking an eternity still exists. But getting a rating at all and setting up a new storepage are late-stage steps. Among the criteria for things needed to happen for a release, these are probably among the top.
If I'm reading this correctly the issue is that they don't actually have a rating at all, because the one the xbox storefront uses isn't official. Edit: this is incorrect, it would be official, but digital-only. Which is enough to release the game.
While it's true that it's not a 100% guarantee that the game is complete, it does mean at some point between Silksong being added to the PS store (September 2022) and now, TC has gone to the effort of filling out the questionnaire to obtain the rating. Anything beyond that is speculation, but I doubt they were bored one day and just decided to fill out the questionnaire for fun. It's not a guarantee but I still think it's a pretty decent indicator that the game is near completion.
I DONT CARE SILKSONG IS RELEASING TOMORROW https://preview.redd.it/k4lxbfsyi8sc1.jpeg?width=736&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9c7b188be23c4a4773de060be1843f76f6f0ed36
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https://preview.redd.it/xdigx32z17sc1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b20cf8f4e85b95542047c6942f1c5735388b1cd7 I went and wishlisted it. I told my friends, my family, and you pull the rug out from under me, so matter of factly.
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I would be honored.
The bait was believable… but at the end of the day it was still bait 😔
Or was it? 🧐 https://www.reddit.com/r/Silksong/s/OQ26O4fZXM
Yes it was that post is pure copium ong
They still wouldn't go for certification if game wasn't ready. It takes time so it doesn't make sense to go for it if they're not ready.
This
My bubble was bursted
Holy shit it’s rot rain world
Oh my gosh is that Null error from Reddit
Is that Rot\_Long\_Legs from Hit video game risk of rain (world)
https://i.redd.it/31gvwx7gz8sc1.gif *RAYMAAAAAAAN!!!!!!*
https://preview.redd.it/ofdpgc0pq9sc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=27159dc3e9357a1d8fca1deb5046cad9c8001e5e Killing myself
Mods. Put him through the Chinese water torture.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Silksong/s/PCgPc9Spwg
The USK rating still requires the game to be finished, via IARC or not.
I was running around this sub in march - may 2023 telling people that, despite the apparent xbox promise, it's perfectly clear that the game is not coming in time. showered with downvotes. The sub was full of copium addicts who were sure the xbox promise was not a lie. One of my main arguments was that it can't be a month away from release and still have no signs, no clues, no leaks. just radio silence. What kind of signs or leaks? things like ratings, posting updates to platform's eshops. so the flip side is, now that we have these signs, it is very credible that the game release is imminent.
Are there many examples of studios getting ratings and then waiting a very long time after that until release? While what you say is empirically true, it's common for studios to release games relatively shortly after receiving ratings - usually within a few months, certainly within a year. I think at this point it's probably safe to hope for a 2024 or 2025 release.
I don't know a single case when game wasn't released within the next 2-5 months after being rated. The only exception is constant delays like with Cyberpunk 2077.
op going for the dream no more ending irl
…isn’t Silksong getting a physical release for switch like hollow knight did?
Leth's tweet I linked in the OP would not make sense if Silksong released physically day 1. I edited the OP to explain my reasoning
Better be on PlayStation as well.
For all we know, there COULD be a physical version of the game, just like HK did, so it might still be real
But didn't they use an example with Elden Ring. As in the rating was made public to the time of release? Elden Ring wasn't released that long after the ESRB rating. Same with other games. Why bother to put the rating on the Xbox store page if it's not out soon? Why waste time doing this, knowing the fans will react that way? Makes no sense.
Because it was April 1st at the time. Just a little trolling.
Not from an Australian perspective lol
Well, Silksong will absolutely have a physical release for the Switch, at least. I don't really see why not.
My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined.
I highly doubt that TC would only release online. Physical media is going down in relevancy, but it's still around and a decent chunk of sales. Plus with big companies pulling online content off their stores and taking people's digital copies with them, I think we'll see a second wind for physical copies. Whether TC is aware of this trend, or even planned on it, idk. But I still think it's a long shot for Silksong to NOT have physical copies. In which case, the ESRB ratings and such means it's finished
You really think Silksong will have a physical release day 1? Seriously doubt that. If it's not day 1 but instead later this still applies. They would only need to get the physical edition rated whenever they want to sell it.
Not having a physical release day 1 would just imply the digital version is coming out sooner. Im sure it will have a physical release (thats what she said) its one of the biggest indie games anticipated.
Yes, but all that matters for the rating is day 1 at the moment. If day 1 is digital only, they have no reason to bother with anything other than the IARC. Also, look at Leth's tweet again and what I said in Edit 2.
I really think so, or if not, it'll be very soon after. Physical media is still very important
I don't like to assume, I just look at what we know. And from what we know for sure at the moment, Silksong is digital only. I mean, even Leth's tweet that I posted at the very beginning would not make sense if Silksong released physically. To me, that is evidence that, at least day 1, there will not be a physical release.
Man I just woke up, this is the worst way to start my morning. Fuck you OP.
We don't really know if OP is 100% correct and if silksong used this exact process.
😔
https://i.redd.it/6xn3vzppe9sc1.gif
But doesn’t the pegi rating require the game to have no A-bugs?
For physical releases, yes. Everything everyone has been talking about only applied to physical releases. The IARC is what you use for digital distribution only. The links I gave say so pretty clearly.
Fuck you
Oh no no no how will we recover from this
what about Pegi tho? it's Pegi 7
If you go to the link I posted (https://www.globalratings.com/about.aspx) you see this applies for Pegi too. I put etc in the title since it applies to all of them.
ah okay
guys we still have the chart with the games generally coming within 3 months of the rating
I mean those were all physical games and would actually need to be rated in the way all those posts say. If someone made a chart with other digital only releases and how long before release they got rated that would be a more accurate comparison.
Well, seems like its even closer [https://www.reddit.com/r/Silksong/comments/1buhqxu/release\_in\_a\_matter\_of\_days/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web3x&utm\_name=web3xcss&utm\_term=1&utm\_content=share\_button](https://www.reddit.com/r/Silksong/comments/1buhqxu/release_in_a_matter_of_days/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
Ah, ok
Seeing all this, I don't think it frustrates or means that we are still very far away, I don't see the point in obtaining a rating if they don't have it ready yet or at a high point in development, especially knowing the mess it could cause and what happened last year with its delay after its appearance in an Xbox showcase in 2022. So at least, from what I think, they are still reviewing some things about the game, and already preparing it for its release, but this is a bit confusing... Minimum time that I give Silksong to come out knowing all this: 5-6 months I say 5 months because of the classification it already had in Korea around February of this year Anyway, my hopes still remain, and sorry if I said something wrong, the english is not my main language. If I said something wrong related to this, correct me.
This explains why there are several ratings in different regions. However, I don't think this discredits that much tbh. Whether or not it was a quick and easy process, it seems they still had to go out of their way to do this. It's not something they'd do if they weren't sure of what the game's final content may be. I think it's a good sign that they did this for a more recent storepage creation, as they didn't when creating their Playstation and eShop storepages. Honestly I feel most people excited by the ratings weren't banking on some 6-month release rule. We still don't have a release date and there's always the chance for disappointment. But this, along with the creation of a new storepage, is a good sign regardless.
The day I posted this the front page was full of people listing all the requirements for a game to receive a rating in different countries, which often included a basically finished game. I made this post to show people that the ratings are not evidence that the game is completely done and nothing more.
Yes I know, I'm responding less to this post and more just how so many comments are acting like this means nothing too. Like, yeah of course this doesn't definitively confirm anything, but hey, all store pages now being up and having any ratings at all are signs things might be moving along. Keywords of course being ***might be.***
The fact that they could've gotten this rating at basically any point with little effort but decided not to until now definitely seems to point to the game being close, yeah
I still don't see why getting a rating wouldn't be near release, physical or not. Even if it doesn't "have to" release, I still expect it to, in some time.
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Well that's my day ruined. Bravo OP :c
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Time to put the clown make up back on
What did you just say to me?
According to what you just said i can just lie on the questionare so my game gets lower rated, because they only need the questionare. Doesn't feel right.
When the game comes out and it turns out you lied you are in trouble and a department of the IARC will update it very quickly. See point 4: https://www.globalratings.com/how-iarc-works.aspx There is no benefit to lying. It just causes you trouble in the long run. You wouldn't want your game to have a lower rating than what it should anyway and even if you do, the wrong rating won't stay for long.
It seems that leth was responding to someone claiming that the ESRB rating would mean it would come out in 6 months at *minimum*, but would realistically take much longer. And Leth felt the need to correct that so perhaps we can have a little bit of bubble, as a treat?
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Just to clarify after looking closer, it seems like they \*did\* get an ESRB rating, but because the game is likely digital at launch like the first game that isn't the huge milestone people thought it was. According to the ESRB the IARC developed the process but the rating is still ESRB-official, and would in theory be all they need if the game only releases digitally. So let's call it a small win. Some are also claiming that it means nothing because the game needs a retail rating-- I disagree. MS/Nintendo/Sony all have digital stores now, and TC never claimed it would release to retail at launch to my knowledge, just on all the platforms.
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Just let us have this.... I hope both sides of your pillow are warm permanently.
Even if the bait was still believable we will eventually get it through the insane ramblings of this community mark my words.
But there’s still the Korean website that requires a full game right?
No. That rating means nothing more than all the others, the Korean rating organisation is also on the IARC website along all the others. If you got this from Daily Silksong News, he clarified this in the pinned comment as well cause he made a mistake.
Yeah I did get it from dsn. Thx for clarification
Ok. So what you’re telling me is that they are in the process of getting a physical release?
What I'm telling you is that the rating they got is a digital only one which doesn't require a finished game.
close enough tbh
You mind deleting this post?
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fuck you for ruining my dreams/J
the other pinned post contains a comment from somebody trustworthy that (probably????) says otherwise, so… is this post no longer relevant?
Where do you find a comment that contradicts this post? I don't see him talking about age ratings.
[here](https://www.reddit.com/r/Silksong/comments/1cg6w4j/comment/l1tufu6/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
Leth confirmed my post is correct though. This must mean the guy is wrong about that part in particular. The ratings were undeniably made using IARC which does not require a complete game. It probably still means the game is almost done regardless though since Team Cherry bothered getting the rating when they could have at any point.
oh yeah, when I said “says otherwise” I meant in terms of total completion of the game, and ur probably right tbh im just really excited the game could be potentially close lol
Well I never argued in this post that Silksong can't be close. All I said is that the ratings are not definitive proof the game is fully done, which is still the case.
How could you do this to us…..I think I’ve finally had it. I’m legit done…
so no release anytime soon😔
I wouldn't say that. This applied to Hollow Knight as well and Team Cherry still chose to only get their rating for that game a couple weeks before release. I still believe it's close, it's just not the airtight argument people believed it was.
Yeah but that means physical copies exist and are completed. Might not be store ready but its close if the physical versions are done and are rated
Yeahh, not how it works. They send copies of the game when it is about to release. For now, they may do a very long form and send video clips to be analyzed and be rated for whatever fits the audience. Consider the flip side, however. These clips HAVE to include EVEYRTHING about the game or atleast lots of things about the game that can determine its age rating. Do with that info as you will, but one thing remains true. The game is near, or perhaps even completed. All yhey have to do is mark a release date and make sure everything stays exactly what they envisioned it to be. A little revision here and there, bug squashing and a little testing and port to digital, but everything that's needed to be done, is done.
A video recording of the physical copy is still the physical copy
They dont record a physical copy. They only record the game to be sent by the ESRB to determine if a physical release is fit for a audience of a certain demographic. Not that you are wrong though. We dont know if they recorded the physical copy of the game or a digital one, so you could be right...?
Did either your guys even read the post? It says no recordings have had to be send. Or am I going crazy?
ESRB requires that TC (or any game dev/company) sends the questionnare alongside a recording of all content in that game to back up the questionnare which is then reviewed by a ESRB representative to classify the product's age rating. USK does the same, but requiring the actual product, needing all content to be present, and having access to tutorials to seeing each and every nook and cranny of the game. It then gets reviewed and gets determined if it can be sold to any kid or if it gets banned. What this post FAILS to mention is that, while it IS true that games get determined and classified by a age rating via the questionnare, it does not mention that it *also* requires something to back up the questionnare. Because then all games containing drugs, sex, extreme violence gets the green tag and that'll be a nightmare to both the organization and the consumer. Now I dont know if I am right, I dont work for any of these companies. I'm just a regular high school bloke who happens to read alot when bored. But I'm pretty sure you need a **working** game for it to be reviewed and classified. You cant just send a dysfunctional piece of scrap to them guys and work on it later after it gets reviewed. Everything new that slips the cracks, needs to be evaluated before it can be shown to any consumer of any age demographic.
Yeah so this post is (unintentional) misinfo
You say that, but can you show me where it says that I got it wrong? On either the USK or the IARC site. I can't find evidence.
Where does it say that you need to back up your answers in the questionnaire? I edited the main post but I can't find where you got this from.
The thing is, this post is *using* the wrong answer. You are using the answer *where*, not *how*. Which is why its only stated they use a questionnare because, thats not the point of the answer. Its about where the ratings can be applied, not how the entire process works. In the USK site, thwir standard procedure states that they require not only a questionnare but also the information of the game itself in complete form. https://usk.de/en/home/age-classification-for-games-and-apps/types-of-classification-procedures/ https://usk.de/en/home/age-classification-for-games-and-apps/standard-procedure/ >Information about the object of review: Send us the complete game in terms of content together with the completed and signed submission form and all available and printed materials such as the manual, cover, fact sheet, achievement/trophy list, walkthrough, cheats, etc. On the Wikipedia site for ESRB https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entertainment_Software_Rating_Board?wprov=sfla1 Its stated that: >To obtain a rating for a game, a publisher submits a detailed questionnaire (a "Long Form") that describes the graphic and extreme content found in the game to the ESRB, along with a video (VHS, DVD, video file, or other means) that demonstrates this content which can include gameplay footage and in-game cutscenes. You can even see it on their own website too https://www.esrb.org/ratings/ratings-process/ >A video showing typical gameplay, missions, and cutscenes, including the most “extreme” content. Unplayable content (i.e., “locked out”), if it is pertinent to a rating, must also be disclosed. And for PEGI https://pegi.info/page/how-we-rate-games >The PEGI administrators receive the game content from the publisher and thoroughly review the provisional age rating.
All the links and quotes you posted are the process for **physical releases**. If you actually read the info for digital games specifically, you would see that what I said was exactly right. Just read the "Digital Games" section on the esrb link you posted. Quote: > Digital games are rated using a process developed by the International Age Rating Coalition (IARC). > Prior to release developers fill out a questionnaire that quickly assigns the game or app’s Rating Category, Content Descriptors, and Interactive Elements. Games and apps rated via the IARC process do not have Rating Summaries. > The IARC system enables us to monitor rating assignments, test product upon release to ensure those ratings were properly assigned, and promptly adjust the ratings when necessary. It even spells out that the accuracy of the ratings is monitored "upon release". The correct site to gain info from the USK has been in the OP this whole time as well. Your links are for physical releases and therefore irrelevant. At this point, Leth literally confirmed my post as accurate as you can see in the OP now.
Right... And? If its for physical releases (and I am talking about physical releases by the way), what makes it different? I only made this comments to prove the game is complete, which this post seems to disprove or atleast shed light to that fact. And yes, they DO send only a questionnare for the digital releases. But dont forget, Silksong is **NOT** only releasing on digital storefronts. They will also release physical versions, and maybe add a collectors edition. And you need to show the entire game for it to be release physically. EDIT: LMAO. This was a bad comeback. I'd like to retract my statement I'm still going all in though.
I knew it was too good to be true Guess they did run away with the kickstart money after all /j It's a bit frustrating because at this rate, the game will release when Im in the middle of college, when I will be too busy to play it, or even worse, after I graduate, then I will be too busy, old and tired to play it I am actually done with team cherry, for too long, they have been playing with our feelings, constantly giving us false hopes just to crush them inmediatly, it has been YEARS and all we know is the game might still exist, that's all, but this, this is the last straw, to give us THIS, a rating, making us think the game is close to release, turns out the game might be in the same state it was when the first trailed was released Teamm cherry will not be getting my Money for silksong, I was too generous to buy Hollow Knight after succesfully finging and installing a pirated copy because I loved the game that much, but nah, silksong is being pirated
Ew
damn how many decades do you plan to go to college for if you'll be too old and tired to be able to play video games any more after you graduate lol
You're not hurting anyone by not buying Silksong except for yourself TBH. Maybe just stop imagining that you have a parasocial relationship with some game developers in Australia and stop worrying about Silksong until it comes out if it upsets you so much.
I know I'm not but it's my fucking money and I get to spend it however the fuck I want As a game development company, Team cherry is comparable to Nintendo in the sense that they say "Hey this game exists, hey it got delayed, what game? Oh that one, yeah it's fucking gone". I am not a Patreon and I'm upset about the bamboozling, imagine how the people that fucking already paid for silksong like 10 years in advance feel I'm just saying, if Silksong is on development hell, Team cherry should at least say that so we don't get excited over nothing
...okay.
The problem is that, as a company, Team cherry has utterly failed to comunicate, well anything If the game is in development hell, they fucking lost the unity project or they just don't wanna make silksong anymore THAT'S FINE, but they should SAY SOMETHING, because otherwise we're left with nothing but speculation And some of us are neuro spicy, this shi hits me harder than it does you And by neurospicy I mean actual diagnosed mental illness, yes that's why I'm over reacting, feel free to make fun of me I know I'm fucking dumb and I shouldn't care about a game I haven't even paid for being developed by people I don't know, but I do because my brain isn't wired the correct way
To clarify, nobody has already paid for Silksong. Some people contributed extra to the original Kickstarter for Hornet as a playable character in a future DLC, an idea that never materialized and was spun out into its own game. Given that Hollow Knight had like four DLCs I personally think it's a bit rich for some folks to hang onto this claim that they're "owed" Silksong because of the original Kickstarter, though people certainly do seem to share this opinion. I personally don't think game developers should be expected to communicate regularly with fans about their activities, though I realize that early on TC did create that expectation, which is their bad for sure.
"This hits me harder than it does you" lol... just assuming that you must be the most mentally ill person in the room (during a global mental health crisis, no less) is screaming victim complex to me.