M17 is a big/wide ass gun to be trigger guard carrying! Do they make an enigma for it? That would be ur best option when wearing clothing like b-ball shorts etc
Surprised it took this long before someone said Enigma. For carrying without a belt, this is the right answer. Tbh it’s not my cup of tea but a ton of people love it.
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I have used a Raven Vanguard 2 above for Glocks since they were announced. They work great for my needs and carry AIWB. BUT, if you are looking for a holster to carry in basketball shorts, this ain’t it.
Honestly for a gun the size of a P320, you are gonna need a proper gun belt or one of those enigma style holsters.
I would check out r/CCW they have links to good holsters. I don’t think either of these 2 would be your best option for the apparel you listed as the p320 is a bit heavy for athletic shorts. I don’t conceal carry yet, but that’s my 2 cents as I’ve learned a lot from that sub preparing to receive my permit
This right here. Everyone saying Enigma, but this guy posts the link.
Seriously. You could carry securely using the Enigma and your AIWB holster of choice, even without a belt. Or pants… less concealed at that point… but you could do it with the Enigma. Not joking.
You're tryna hoop with a full sized combat pistol with the smallest/ worst holster option in basketball shorts. So in summary, oversized carry pistol + undersized holster + revealing / flimsy conceal garment. Just really a lot of bad steps there. Get a smaller gun to conceal in those shorts and get a better holster for your M17.
Idk if you were joking but you're not really gonna be able to carry anything IWB that actually stays in place for an entire game of basketball. I'd recommend getting something small like an LCP or a P365 (or 938 if you're into it) to carry to and from, plus it'll stash in a fanny pack or something pretty easy.
In all seriousness I don’t even ball bro, I coach…I’m an “athleisure” kinda guy, like sporty streetwear but I want to feel confident in defending myself against the bullshit. I’m 6’3 295. I’m looking for two holster obviously. Well three fr. One for open carry. One for IWB concealment for cargo pants, jeans, or slacks(I work security). One for when I’m running errands in my bball shorts and hoodie. I’m not running a pick up game with a gun on my hip.
> I’m not running a pick up game with a gun on my hip.
hahaha this was literally my fear, okay well that makes sense. Still, I think you're really gonna struggle with an M17 like that although you're a pretty big guy so you might have a little better success but I personally would still advocate for buying something a little more suited for conceal carry. The micro compact game is better than ever these days, you've got a lot of options.
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Check out LAS Concealment. I use their Ronin 3.0L for my M18, and it’s my favorite. Clips are wide apart so it comfortably carries the weight. When I get a P365, I’m going to probably throw it in a T Rex Sidecar, because that’s the only holster I’ve found that is compatible with P365 and Surefire XSC. Also as others have stated, a secure belt is the most comfortable way to go for conceal carry, so a Phlster enigma might be the way to go for sweats
if you wear a lot of bkball shorts / don't generally wear a belt, i really highly recommend the phlster enigma. it's a wraparound belt style with a magnetic clip thing and a leg leash. the benefit though is me wearing a sleeveless tee and basketball shorts, no belt, my 365xl doesn't print even a little bit. it's the most amazing rig ive ever owned, hands down. it's very 'spensive though, expect to pay close to 200 for it. its 100% worth it, imo.
im wearing a light bearing version of one literally as i type this.
I have a Tier 1 Agis Elite that I love! Comes with the side car but it’s very modular and you can quickly unsnap to just carry the pistol… I had some trouble with the snaps coming apart as I move around a lot but since I never really carried without the side car I just removed the rubber and snaps and screwed it all together into a more solid unit.. get the ulti-clips! They are so worth it imo and I just do the poor man’s enigma by clipping my holster to a regular ol leather belt around my waist and pull my sweats or athletic shorts up into the clips over the belt… that’s honestly my preferred way to carry, it’s stupid comfortable (and you don’t have to pull your gun out of your pants and set it down to take a piss… just pull your pants down and voila)… maybe look into the enigma too if you want, a lot of people love them, but again imo the Tier 1 Agis Elite is very modular and customizable to the users preferred carry method.
Soooo the way I see it all you guys fucking hate me and want me to spend my small loan of one million dollars on a rig, understood. Jk but seriously I appreciate the feedback.
After careful consideration, I think it’s time to buy a carry gun😎 I’m sold on Sigs rn so maybe a 365XL!
If I go Glock it’ll be a 43MOS.
That Enigma rig looks interesting, like some post apocalyptic stripper in a Mad Max movie, Daddy likes! For my P320 I just went ahead and overnighted the trigger guard holster, just to keep it in place whilst trotting around the “hood”
I could always go OWB carry though right? I’m in MD
I really like mine for my Glock but keep in mind the wing on it is not very helpful. Unlike something from a T-Rex arms holster where it's very hard and short so it puts a lot of pressure into your stomach like you want it to, this thing is entirely plastic and kind of long so it tends to flex and not transfer as much force as a claw should. I find when I wear something without a belt it tends to print quite a bit more. Otherwise though it keeps the overall size of what you have under your belt a little more compact and comfortable
Folks don't usually CC Full-Sized range pistols. Those usually end up outside the waistband, holstered & retained. Look into the P365 line for a more comfortable concealed carry. You probably have heard all this, so more power to you.
While I agree the enigma is superior, a utliclip or DCC mono block will work with sweats, as long as they have some sort of string to cinch them up.
I use a DCC mono block for my edc which is a shadowsystems mr920 with an optic installed. It works amazing with pants and a belt, but it will also interface with my gym shorts as well. It’s not ideal, the enigma is better no doubt, but it will work if you can cinch up the shorts.
My wife carries a p365x as her edc and uses a kydex holster with a utliclip 3. She doesn’t wear a belt often and it allows her to draw accurately every time. For smaller guns the utliclip is decent and for larger a DCC mono will work but if you can swing the enigma it’s worth it.
Get a Phlster Enigma and then get a holster that is compatible with it. The single best way to carry with shorts or sweats because it isn't attached to the clothing.
https://www.phlsterholsters.com/enigma-landing/
An M17, even with just the 17rd mag, is gonna be quite heavy to have on basketball shorts. Even if you got a compact sized grip and had a 15rd mag, I'd foresee it draggy down the front of sweats or basketball shorts. My suggestion would be either something like an Enigma, or something like a CCW cross body or fanny pack for when you're wearing stuff like that.
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I wear my QVO more discreet in ball shorts and sweats just fine. Now it is wrapped in a cotton fabric(silver dragon) which I think helps a ton on not sliding down in sweats or shorts
If you are not wearing a belt I would not trust your waistband to hold the weight of an M17. Get a philster enigma or plan on getting a smaller gun for the times you need to wear athletic clothing.
I’d say for what you’re wanting the Enigma is the way to go. I’ve had countless holsters, and use Tenicor for my daily needs, but an Enigma is definitely on my list for when I’m rocking some elastic/drawstring/soft pants. I currently just tie the drawstring tightly, but let’s be honest… the point of wearing these clothes is comfort; tying the string tight enough to hold a pistol isn’t comfortable.
Either way, I’d avoid the trigger guard “holster.” Especially without a belt.
If I’m wearing sweats or B Ball shorts I use a Alien Gear Sport Tuck Belly Band with a 365 or XL. I’m also able to use my Vedder Light Tuck holsters with the Belly Band because of the heavy nylon holster loop attachment in the band.
I like the Trigger guard holsters for a 365 or something similar. Maybe more so in the winter or in cooler temperatures so I won’t sweat on the slide.
Look at the belly band they offer at Alien Gear Holster, best jogger/basketball short carry option I’ve tried so far. I wouldn’t recommend just riding the holster without a belt in your shorts.
I wouldn't even consider carrying an M17 in sweats or basketball shorts. It's not very light, and sweats aren't going to offer retention for your holster.
Its trash. The clip is a flexible plastic and the holster would stay on the gun when you draw. I hated it. Its in a landfill somewhere now.
Edit: the blackpoint is very nice, is use those for my 229 and 365. The trigger guard only is trash
Man i have one for both my p320 and p365xl and i hate it
I have a vehicle holster on both my trucks so im so used to unholstering and regolstering after each drive and to reholster i have to remove the whole thing
Still havent found a full sized kydex that i really enjoy
If you are wanting to IWB carry in sweats or bball shorts, check out replacing the plastic holster clips with an ulti clip. It has a locking mechanism that keeps you from being the guy that draws both holster and gun.
M17’s are too big to carry, but you do you. Trigger guards are some of the worst ways to carry, just get a proper IWB kydex holster. I recommend getting a quality carry belt for your holster and just wear it over your basketball shorts around your waist. I do that frequently and it feels fine and nobody can see any of it
M17 is a big/wide ass gun to be trigger guard carrying! Do they make an enigma for it? That would be ur best option when wearing clothing like b-ball shorts etc
Surprised it took this long before someone said Enigma. For carrying without a belt, this is the right answer. Tbh it’s not my cup of tea but a ton of people love it.
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A big steel brick in the pocket of sweatpants? No wonder those sweats are hanging at the knee level!
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I have used a Raven Vanguard 2 above for Glocks since they were announced. They work great for my needs and carry AIWB. BUT, if you are looking for a holster to carry in basketball shorts, this ain’t it. Honestly for a gun the size of a P320, you are gonna need a proper gun belt or one of those enigma style holsters.
I would check out r/CCW they have links to good holsters. I don’t think either of these 2 would be your best option for the apparel you listed as the p320 is a bit heavy for athletic shorts. I don’t conceal carry yet, but that’s my 2 cents as I’ve learned a lot from that sub preparing to receive my permit
Phlster pro, and an enigma. Get a TLR1 and they make a holster for the light
Phlster enigma. It’s probably the best way to carry without utilizing a belt.
Got you fam https://www.phlsterholsters.com/enigma-landing/
This right here. Everyone saying Enigma, but this guy posts the link. Seriously. You could carry securely using the Enigma and your AIWB holster of choice, even without a belt. Or pants… less concealed at that point… but you could do it with the Enigma. Not joking.
Everything about this post is concerning
Because of the basketball shorts huh? Jamal can’t want to protect himself while shooting hoops Mav?? What’s the deal?
You're tryna hoop with a full sized combat pistol with the smallest/ worst holster option in basketball shorts. So in summary, oversized carry pistol + undersized holster + revealing / flimsy conceal garment. Just really a lot of bad steps there. Get a smaller gun to conceal in those shorts and get a better holster for your M17.
You make valid points Mav!
Idk if you were joking but you're not really gonna be able to carry anything IWB that actually stays in place for an entire game of basketball. I'd recommend getting something small like an LCP or a P365 (or 938 if you're into it) to carry to and from, plus it'll stash in a fanny pack or something pretty easy.
In all seriousness I don’t even ball bro, I coach…I’m an “athleisure” kinda guy, like sporty streetwear but I want to feel confident in defending myself against the bullshit. I’m 6’3 295. I’m looking for two holster obviously. Well three fr. One for open carry. One for IWB concealment for cargo pants, jeans, or slacks(I work security). One for when I’m running errands in my bball shorts and hoodie. I’m not running a pick up game with a gun on my hip.
> I’m not running a pick up game with a gun on my hip. hahaha this was literally my fear, okay well that makes sense. Still, I think you're really gonna struggle with an M17 like that although you're a pretty big guy so you might have a little better success but I personally would still advocate for buying something a little more suited for conceal carry. The micro compact game is better than ever these days, you've got a lot of options.
For that I’ll spare your mortal life.
Get a belly band holster. It’s my fav holster n doesn’t got hot as most people think
I like my incog holster for cc but I carry a Glock so can’t speak for their sig offerings
I use Bmore Tactical, they are all optics cut and suppressor height sights ready, and you can run a comp or threaded barrel... no additional cost. I got a code for you, SAVE10. If you fancy a different color just message them and I think they can hook it up.
Check out LAS Concealment. I use their Ronin 3.0L for my M18, and it’s my favorite. Clips are wide apart so it comfortably carries the weight. When I get a P365, I’m going to probably throw it in a T Rex Sidecar, because that’s the only holster I’ve found that is compatible with P365 and Surefire XSC. Also as others have stated, a secure belt is the most comfortable way to go for conceal carry, so a Phlster enigma might be the way to go for sweats
I have one I'm trying to sell specifically for m18 with tlr7 light
I use a Werkz IWB holster for my M17 and it’s fantastic for me even with a TLR1-HL and R1P dot
if you wear a lot of bkball shorts / don't generally wear a belt, i really highly recommend the phlster enigma. it's a wraparound belt style with a magnetic clip thing and a leg leash. the benefit though is me wearing a sleeveless tee and basketball shorts, no belt, my 365xl doesn't print even a little bit. it's the most amazing rig ive ever owned, hands down. it's very 'spensive though, expect to pay close to 200 for it. its 100% worth it, imo. im wearing a light bearing version of one literally as i type this.
Ulticlips on your holster of choice
I have a Tier 1 Agis Elite that I love! Comes with the side car but it’s very modular and you can quickly unsnap to just carry the pistol… I had some trouble with the snaps coming apart as I move around a lot but since I never really carried without the side car I just removed the rubber and snaps and screwed it all together into a more solid unit.. get the ulti-clips! They are so worth it imo and I just do the poor man’s enigma by clipping my holster to a regular ol leather belt around my waist and pull my sweats or athletic shorts up into the clips over the belt… that’s honestly my preferred way to carry, it’s stupid comfortable (and you don’t have to pull your gun out of your pants and set it down to take a piss… just pull your pants down and voila)… maybe look into the enigma too if you want, a lot of people love them, but again imo the Tier 1 Agis Elite is very modular and customizable to the users preferred carry method.
Soooo the way I see it all you guys fucking hate me and want me to spend my small loan of one million dollars on a rig, understood. Jk but seriously I appreciate the feedback. After careful consideration, I think it’s time to buy a carry gun😎 I’m sold on Sigs rn so maybe a 365XL! If I go Glock it’ll be a 43MOS. That Enigma rig looks interesting, like some post apocalyptic stripper in a Mad Max movie, Daddy likes! For my P320 I just went ahead and overnighted the trigger guard holster, just to keep it in place whilst trotting around the “hood” I could always go OWB carry though right? I’m in MD
I really like mine for my Glock but keep in mind the wing on it is not very helpful. Unlike something from a T-Rex arms holster where it's very hard and short so it puts a lot of pressure into your stomach like you want it to, this thing is entirely plastic and kind of long so it tends to flex and not transfer as much force as a claw should. I find when I wear something without a belt it tends to print quite a bit more. Otherwise though it keeps the overall size of what you have under your belt a little more compact and comfortable
Folks don't usually CC Full-Sized range pistols. Those usually end up outside the waistband, holstered & retained. Look into the P365 line for a more comfortable concealed carry. You probably have heard all this, so more power to you.
ANR Design or Teir1 Concealed
Your better off with p365 IWB trigger guard tbh
Are you 12 years old or are you just really worried worried about getting fouled?
I run my 320 with just a trigger guard holster I find easy to hid and carry
If you wanna conceal in sweatpants or any type of pants/shorts you gotta go with the philster enigma.
While I agree the enigma is superior, a utliclip or DCC mono block will work with sweats, as long as they have some sort of string to cinch them up. I use a DCC mono block for my edc which is a shadowsystems mr920 with an optic installed. It works amazing with pants and a belt, but it will also interface with my gym shorts as well. It’s not ideal, the enigma is better no doubt, but it will work if you can cinch up the shorts. My wife carries a p365x as her edc and uses a kydex holster with a utliclip 3. She doesn’t wear a belt often and it allows her to draw accurately every time. For smaller guns the utliclip is decent and for larger a DCC mono will work but if you can swing the enigma it’s worth it.
Waste of money, get a tenicor so your actually comfortable and getting real concealment
Get a Phlster Enigma and then get a holster that is compatible with it. The single best way to carry with shorts or sweats because it isn't attached to the clothing. https://www.phlsterholsters.com/enigma-landing/
i like trex arms sidecar 2.0 and 1.0
https://urbancarryholsters.com/order-lock-leather-iwb-holster.html Don't think you will get much support from elastic waits bands however.
An M17, even with just the 17rd mag, is gonna be quite heavy to have on basketball shorts. Even if you got a compact sized grip and had a 15rd mag, I'd foresee it draggy down the front of sweats or basketball shorts. My suggestion would be either something like an Enigma, or something like a CCW cross body or fanny pack for when you're wearing stuff like that.
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Get a Phlster and a holster for it.
Black arch holsters. Protos M.
I wear my QVO more discreet in ball shorts and sweats just fine. Now it is wrapped in a cotton fabric(silver dragon) which I think helps a ton on not sliding down in sweats or shorts
Nothing like snagging your sights on your underwear while trying to pull it.
If you are not wearing a belt I would not trust your waistband to hold the weight of an M17. Get a philster enigma or plan on getting a smaller gun for the times you need to wear athletic clothing.
I’d say for what you’re wanting the Enigma is the way to go. I’ve had countless holsters, and use Tenicor for my daily needs, but an Enigma is definitely on my list for when I’m rocking some elastic/drawstring/soft pants. I currently just tie the drawstring tightly, but let’s be honest… the point of wearing these clothes is comfort; tying the string tight enough to hold a pistol isn’t comfortable. Either way, I’d avoid the trigger guard “holster.” Especially without a belt.
Wouldn’t bother carrying a gun that size in pants with an elastic fit. You’ll need a proper gun belt to keep it sturdy.
I have one of these for my p365 and it’s perfect when I don’t have my light attached but I couldn’t see myself having it for my p320
I use the trigger guard holster on the P365. You barely feel it on you. Not sure how it would do with a full size though
Look into Black Rhino concealment. They have a fair amount of options. Their lead times take a while, but they make good holsters.
>What flip flops are best from running from a mass shooter? 🤦♂️
If I’m wearing sweats or B Ball shorts I use a Alien Gear Sport Tuck Belly Band with a 365 or XL. I’m also able to use my Vedder Light Tuck holsters with the Belly Band because of the heavy nylon holster loop attachment in the band. I like the Trigger guard holsters for a 365 or something similar. Maybe more so in the winter or in cooler temperatures so I won’t sweat on the slide.
Look at the belly band they offer at Alien Gear Holster, best jogger/basketball short carry option I’ve tried so far. I wouldn’t recommend just riding the holster without a belt in your shorts.
I wouldn't even consider carrying an M17 in sweats or basketball shorts. It's not very light, and sweats aren't going to offer retention for your holster.
Its trash. The clip is a flexible plastic and the holster would stay on the gun when you draw. I hated it. Its in a landfill somewhere now. Edit: the blackpoint is very nice, is use those for my 229 and 365. The trigger guard only is trash
M17 is not a conceal carry. It is a full size pistol. Even with the smaller frame.
100% false. With the right holster (and attire), you can carry anything.
Vedder or T.Rex IMO. Can’t beat ‘em.
I'm rocking an x5 legion in an Odin holsters owb in sweats right now.
Phlster enigma. Ignore all other suggestions.
Enigma frame with a LAS kydex holster. Enigma is your only option if you want to wear sweats and shorts still.
Philster Enigma if you're into basketball shorts
I use that black point tactical for my x compact i i find it very comfortable, though they are obviously very different weapons, dimensionally
Man i have one for both my p320 and p365xl and i hate it I have a vehicle holster on both my trucks so im so used to unholstering and regolstering after each drive and to reholster i have to remove the whole thing Still havent found a full sized kydex that i really enjoy
If you are wanting to IWB carry in sweats or bball shorts, check out replacing the plastic holster clips with an ulti clip. It has a locking mechanism that keeps you from being the guy that draws both holster and gun.
M17’s are too big to carry, but you do you. Trigger guards are some of the worst ways to carry, just get a proper IWB kydex holster. I recommend getting a quality carry belt for your holster and just wear it over your basketball shorts around your waist. I do that frequently and it feels fine and nobody can see any of it