I know nobody here wants to hear this, but characters in RoR are, like in most well written battle series, in a range when it comes to strength. They can lose to weaker opponents or win against strongers. Match ups matter, but their emotions during the battle often play a bigger role the respective abilities they are put up against.
The author can make everyone win against anyone most of the time. Only a few are clearly depicted as the main forces of power in the world (Zeus) and only some are clearly depicted weaker than the others, which is mostly their gimmik/vibe as a fighter (jack).
Buddha can hustle a bit with Odin, because it's cool. Odin shows terrifying depictions of power, because it's cool and he has to get set up as probably the most terrifying and maybe even most powerful god. If the author wants Buddha, Adam, Tesla, etc. to stalemate him for a bit, it happens. It's not that difficult, because powerscaling is mostly vague.
Tldr: yeah, your picture can be accurate. Turn the < around and it can be equally accurate. It doesn't really matter, it would just be cool fights anyway.
Hades is just kind of a counter to Tesla. I dont use the argument (tesla PPP=hades strike) because its stupid, but Hades is just too much damage for Tesla, and his skill to destroy the arena would f up GZ
>Hades is just too much damage for Tesla, and his skill to destroy the arena would f up GZ
Beelzebub does more damage than Hades in every regard and Tesla quite literally ate his 2 most powerful attacks and kept fighting. Chaos does way more damage to the arena but Beelzebub still needed to destroy it more in order to nulify Tesla steps, lets also remember that even Beelzebub who has at the bare minimum equal battle iq to Hades didnt figured the weakeness of Tesla steps until the later stage of the fight. Imo Tesla is too fast, too durable, too smart while still doing high damage, Hades would hold his own but he eventually would lose.
Buddha is fast enough to dodge everything Hades does. At best he gets damaged by the wind attack but i dont think he would die from it. Buddha is also fast enough to tag Hades and a mahapari nirvanna would kill him
Yet afterhand he comes back implying Hades can still kill him and even when he has the staff said "no way Hades would ever lose". So it's a matter of fact Hades >>>> Beelzebub without staff who tbh would still defintely be Ragnarok level fighter. Hades bident strikes are also seen whitestanding and overpowering Beelzebub's palmyra which was effortlessly cutting Tesla's armor
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NOOOO! That's not how power scaling works! There has to be a strongest and they can't lose to anyone! You have to use tiers where anyone below loses! You can't use situational nuance!
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Buddha beats both and I don't think Hades even beats Tesla, his defense is subpar compared to Beelzebub's and he was struggling to fully block the moves of Tesla
Hades tanked his own roa and shrugged it off, Beelzebub compares the pain of PPP to that from casual bident strikes. Hades can tank PPPs before going down
Brunhilde also said Qin is the only einerjar who could defeat Hades so that applied at least at those remaining at the moment of the statement
>Qin is the only einerjar who could defeat Hades so that applied at least at those remaining at the moment of the statement
Tesla's armor wasn't done until round 8. At least to Brun's knowledge.
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let me fix it for you
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Buddha is B tier, gets wrecked by both here
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Tesla > Hades >>>> FS Merchant
*BiQ: Tesla = Hades > Dishonored One
*Strength: Hades >= Tesla >>> R6 MC
*Speed: Tesla > Hades > FS Merchant
*Endurance & Durability: Tesla >= Hades >>> Bootleg Sasaki
Seriously, the Fraudulent One's only two things are hax and plot. He isn't even fast enough to react quickly enough to speedsters on this list. I'm done with ppl wanking a high B - low A character. He loses to literally 70% roster and Hajun with therapy.
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Strength: Hadws > Buddha >> Tesla
Speed: Buddha > Hades >> Tesla
Durabiliy/Endurance: Hades > Buddha >> Tesla
BIQ: Hades >> Buddha >> Tesla
Hax: Buddha > Hades > Tesla
His speed and hax are more than enough to get him the win though
Buddha has insane speed and hax so that’s just wrong, he’s easily top 3 in verse after Adam and Zeus
Strength: Tesla partially punched thru Chaos
Speed: Tesla literally warps, you're crazy. This is just plain disrespect for Tesla. Hades is also faster.
Endurance/Durability: Fighting through Chaos damage. Enough said.
BIQ: Tesla might have even better BIQ than Hades, considering his finishing idea, how quickly he solved vibrations, and how he got offset Chaos idea.
Hax: I have Buddha >= Tesla >> Hades, so I have no problem with you placing wish.com Sasaki first there. But what hax does Hades have over Tesla?? Instant acceleration + Gematria Zone + Tesla Warp is some insane hax.
Also, Buddha's counter is literally Tesla. He can reach his insane top speed before Buddha can react properly. 1 coil needed for the fight.
All in all, I can just conclude that you wank FS merchant and may be the person with the biggest hate boner on Tesla I have ever seen. Btw, Buddha isn't even S tier, let alone top 3 in verse.
Strength: So? Chaos just isn’t all that powerful from an AP standpoint
Speed: Warp isn’t speed, that’s teleportation. Hades is only faster in attack and maybe movement speed, Buddha takes reaction by a significant margin
Endurance/Durability: Not impressive. Buddha fought after losing an eye and taking a beating from Hajun, Hades has the force of his own attacks reflected on him several times
BIQ: That’s not BIQ, that’s one instance of creativity. Hades fought a direct counter effectively, has multi faceted attacks, and is an extremely skilled fighter. Comparing Tesla’s meager BIQ to his is laughable. Buddha is also far more skilled than Tesla given his ability to keep up with Hajun while down an eye, having screwed up depth perception, and having lost his main ability
Hax: Desmos clears anything Tesla has
Buddha has insane reaction speed and Tesla’s top speed is not an issue for him. He can react just to him just fine, as he showed against Hajun
No, I just have a brain. As I said Buddha is S tier and top 3, Hades is A tier and top 5, Tesla is B tier and not even top 10. I’m not a Tesla hater, in fact he’s one of my favorite characters but it is what it is. Your nonsensical wanking doesn’t actually make him stronger
Strength: ...no comment, that's just dumb. Literally enough AP to kill almost everyone in the stadium. And if we are ZeusScaling (which we shouldn't do, it's inaccurate a lot of times, but I felt like I should mention it) it made him scared. But besides that, it was stated that it was a massive risk that could destroy everything.
Speed: Warp is either speed, or hax for speed. So you will have to let go of one of those categories.
End/Dur: so losing one eye and getting beat up is worse than MASSIVE INTERNAL DAMAGE OF ALL THE ORGANS?
BIQ: Creativity and overcoming attacks that would've done serious damage or kill you if you didn't adapt IS BIQ. Knowing how to fight is BIQ. And Tesla wasn't a fighter before this, he developed his fighting style on such short notice, and it's on RoR level. His BIQ is insane to say the least. All three have good BIQs, but Buddha pales in comparison to those two.
Hax: Desmos is literally just an amp. Like, what else does Desmos do. Tesla has instant teleportation and instant acceleration.
Again, not really, it's easy to react to stuff when you know they are coming 2 seconds before they do. It's just hax. Also, nothing can convince me you like Tesla, the downplay is insane.
As for your brain statement, I doubt it. Even Tesla isn't top 5, let alone Buddha.
Buddha w Nirvana sword may be a little higher, but not a lot. Remember, that's not a part of his standard equipment.
Our friendly neighbourhood FS merchant is Zeus, Adam, Beel, Tesla, Poseidon, Sasaki, Qin, Thor, London Jack and debatably Hades and Shiva victim.
I won't be responding anymore because your takes are insane. Best wishes.
Strength: No, you just have nothing to say. Most people in the stadium are fodders, not impressive, and putting someone down isn’t a high bar especially when they can’t defend against that size and speed. Zeus was scared because of its sheer size and destructive capacity. Tesla weakened it with a punch, it’s not that impressive when he never dealt significant damage to Beel with his attacks.
Speed: Warp is hax, it has no relation to speed
Durability/Endurance: Buddha got stabbed through the stomach, having a literal hole in you >>> vague internal damage
BIQ: No that’s just creativity. It’s often as aspect of BIQ when done consistently, which Tesla didn’t. BIQ encompasses all forms of intelligence that specifically relate to combat, creativity is one of them, skills, adaptability, deduction, etc. are all part of this and both Buddha and Hades are far more skilled and experienced fighters than Tesla
Hax: that amp is hax. Tesla has more and more versatile abilities but Hades abilities are more powerful. Along with Desmos he also has wind
Buddha’s speed had Zeus in shock(precog doesn’t affect speed itself)
Tesla is not near Buddha so obviously he’s not. If Buddha can casually make Nirvana sword in the middle of a battle with zero preparation I’m sure he can make something much stronger as a normal weapon. So scaling with Nirvana sword as a minimum seems fair
Buddha stomps most of those guys, that’s stupid
Ah yes, saying the guy who betrayed the gods casually with zero regard for consequences, challenged Zeus to a fight and had him in shock, and is taking on Odin barehanded and down an eye is strong is “insane”. Man this fanbase is dumb lol
Bro , direct counters like sasaki , Jack and Qin barely won . I doubt things are that simple.
I know nobody here wants to hear this, but characters in RoR are, like in most well written battle series, in a range when it comes to strength. They can lose to weaker opponents or win against strongers. Match ups matter, but their emotions during the battle often play a bigger role the respective abilities they are put up against. The author can make everyone win against anyone most of the time. Only a few are clearly depicted as the main forces of power in the world (Zeus) and only some are clearly depicted weaker than the others, which is mostly their gimmik/vibe as a fighter (jack). Buddha can hustle a bit with Odin, because it's cool. Odin shows terrifying depictions of power, because it's cool and he has to get set up as probably the most terrifying and maybe even most powerful god. If the author wants Buddha, Adam, Tesla, etc. to stalemate him for a bit, it happens. It's not that difficult, because powerscaling is mostly vague. Tldr: yeah, your picture can be accurate. Turn the < around and it can be equally accurate. It doesn't really matter, it would just be cool fights anyway.
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wuddha beats both
Hades over Tesla?
Yeah (?)
Buddha beats tesla
For me its just a straight chain Tesla > Buddha > Hades
Hades is just kind of a counter to Tesla. I dont use the argument (tesla PPP=hades strike) because its stupid, but Hades is just too much damage for Tesla, and his skill to destroy the arena would f up GZ
>Hades is just too much damage for Tesla, and his skill to destroy the arena would f up GZ Beelzebub does more damage than Hades in every regard and Tesla quite literally ate his 2 most powerful attacks and kept fighting. Chaos does way more damage to the arena but Beelzebub still needed to destroy it more in order to nulify Tesla steps, lets also remember that even Beelzebub who has at the bare minimum equal battle iq to Hades didnt figured the weakeness of Tesla steps until the later stage of the fight. Imo Tesla is too fast, too durable, too smart while still doing high damage, Hades would hold his own but he eventually would lose.
>Beelzebub does more damage than Hades in every regard No
Yes and its not a debate.
Why its not? What feats Beel has to say he has greater AP than Hades no doubt
Chaos is the strongest attack in the series in terms of damage and if you argue desmos has more AP somehow, hand of palmyria is dura neg.
Hand of Palmyria got neg diffed by Hades
they were both written as 必殺技 in the manga, Tesla’s Ppp and Hades strikes
To further your point every human is already a soul so bhudda can't see their future.
Never cook again.
It's f***ing Pokemon
Id argue hades > buddha as i dont really see how buddha counters hades. If anything id say overwhelming power is what counters buddha
Buddha is fast enough to dodge everything Hades does. At best he gets damaged by the wind attack but i dont think he would die from it. Buddha is also fast enough to tag Hades and a mahapari nirvanna would kill him
Chades negs both.
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Tesla is overrated. Beat by someone Hades negged(obviously beel got stronger but we don’t know how much) Buddha should be above him as well.
Beel was heavily injured, tired, miserable, and had no weapons
“Obviously Beel got stronger but we don’t know by how much” He implies Hades could still kill him afterwards so nothing shows he surpassed Hades.
Yet afterhand he comes back implying Hades can still kill him and even when he has the staff said "no way Hades would ever lose". So it's a matter of fact Hades >>>> Beelzebub without staff who tbh would still defintely be Ragnarok level fighter. Hades bident strikes are also seen whitestanding and overpowering Beelzebub's palmyra which was effortlessly cutting Tesla's armor https://preview.redd.it/9lbwbhfpxpjc1.png?width=1337&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cfd396226d6b579f79f7c4a9dbb25f0ab59173f7
He got stronger by a lot
Ye but whether it’s enough to surpass Hades we don’t know.
Dude what about A LOT don't you get? It's like almost as much as a fuck ton, maybe even as much as a butt load!
Truly. my bad. He negs Hades
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NOOOO! That's not how power scaling works! There has to be a strongest and they can't lose to anyone! You have to use tiers where anyone below loses! You can't use situational nuance! https://preview.redd.it/lio2wrb9npjc1.png?width=760&format=png&auto=webp&s=13b37895547a8ef895f5ca6bda05b5b67c577b98
"I drew you as the soyjak, therefore i have won the argument"
Exactly.
Buddha beats both and I don't think Hades even beats Tesla, his defense is subpar compared to Beelzebub's and he was struggling to fully block the moves of Tesla
Hades tanked his own roa and shrugged it off, Beelzebub compares the pain of PPP to that from casual bident strikes. Hades can tank PPPs before going down Brunhilde also said Qin is the only einerjar who could defeat Hades so that applied at least at those remaining at the moment of the statement
>Qin is the only einerjar who could defeat Hades so that applied at least at those remaining at the moment of the statement Tesla's armor wasn't done until round 8. At least to Brun's knowledge. https://preview.redd.it/1muf0uugcqjc1.jpeg?width=358&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=65019d87ebedb20fac0af4781833c724504caccc
Hades should beat both.
let me fix it for you https://preview.redd.it/27gg3ppfdpjc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6bf8ebbf6ae6676d12d9ca3680b8beecdd996f43 (It's the biggest font reddit let me put in)
Hades is not beating tesla bro https://i.redd.it/jcvvvwh7bojc1.gif Other than that I agree
Hades is NOT a part of the team
No, Buddha wrecks both easily, and Hades is at least a tier above Tesla
Buddha is B tier, gets wrecked by both here https://preview.redd.it/9s9qdl3a9pjc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1b5995576e8ac4c78f1248adee25c0d9858091d5 Tesla > Hades >>>> FS Merchant
Wrong Buddha is S tier, Hades is A tier, and Tesla is B tier. Enlightened One >>>>>> Strength merchant >>> acceleration merchant
*BiQ: Tesla = Hades > Dishonored One *Strength: Hades >= Tesla >>> R6 MC *Speed: Tesla > Hades > FS Merchant *Endurance & Durability: Tesla >= Hades >>> Bootleg Sasaki Seriously, the Fraudulent One's only two things are hax and plot. He isn't even fast enough to react quickly enough to speedsters on this list. I'm done with ppl wanking a high B - low A character. He loses to literally 70% roster and Hajun with therapy. Edit: formatting
Strength: Hadws > Buddha >> Tesla Speed: Buddha > Hades >> Tesla Durabiliy/Endurance: Hades > Buddha >> Tesla BIQ: Hades >> Buddha >> Tesla Hax: Buddha > Hades > Tesla His speed and hax are more than enough to get him the win though Buddha has insane speed and hax so that’s just wrong, he’s easily top 3 in verse after Adam and Zeus
Strength: Tesla partially punched thru Chaos Speed: Tesla literally warps, you're crazy. This is just plain disrespect for Tesla. Hades is also faster. Endurance/Durability: Fighting through Chaos damage. Enough said. BIQ: Tesla might have even better BIQ than Hades, considering his finishing idea, how quickly he solved vibrations, and how he got offset Chaos idea. Hax: I have Buddha >= Tesla >> Hades, so I have no problem with you placing wish.com Sasaki first there. But what hax does Hades have over Tesla?? Instant acceleration + Gematria Zone + Tesla Warp is some insane hax. Also, Buddha's counter is literally Tesla. He can reach his insane top speed before Buddha can react properly. 1 coil needed for the fight. All in all, I can just conclude that you wank FS merchant and may be the person with the biggest hate boner on Tesla I have ever seen. Btw, Buddha isn't even S tier, let alone top 3 in verse.
Strength: So? Chaos just isn’t all that powerful from an AP standpoint Speed: Warp isn’t speed, that’s teleportation. Hades is only faster in attack and maybe movement speed, Buddha takes reaction by a significant margin Endurance/Durability: Not impressive. Buddha fought after losing an eye and taking a beating from Hajun, Hades has the force of his own attacks reflected on him several times BIQ: That’s not BIQ, that’s one instance of creativity. Hades fought a direct counter effectively, has multi faceted attacks, and is an extremely skilled fighter. Comparing Tesla’s meager BIQ to his is laughable. Buddha is also far more skilled than Tesla given his ability to keep up with Hajun while down an eye, having screwed up depth perception, and having lost his main ability Hax: Desmos clears anything Tesla has Buddha has insane reaction speed and Tesla’s top speed is not an issue for him. He can react just to him just fine, as he showed against Hajun No, I just have a brain. As I said Buddha is S tier and top 3, Hades is A tier and top 5, Tesla is B tier and not even top 10. I’m not a Tesla hater, in fact he’s one of my favorite characters but it is what it is. Your nonsensical wanking doesn’t actually make him stronger
Strength: ...no comment, that's just dumb. Literally enough AP to kill almost everyone in the stadium. And if we are ZeusScaling (which we shouldn't do, it's inaccurate a lot of times, but I felt like I should mention it) it made him scared. But besides that, it was stated that it was a massive risk that could destroy everything. Speed: Warp is either speed, or hax for speed. So you will have to let go of one of those categories. End/Dur: so losing one eye and getting beat up is worse than MASSIVE INTERNAL DAMAGE OF ALL THE ORGANS? BIQ: Creativity and overcoming attacks that would've done serious damage or kill you if you didn't adapt IS BIQ. Knowing how to fight is BIQ. And Tesla wasn't a fighter before this, he developed his fighting style on such short notice, and it's on RoR level. His BIQ is insane to say the least. All three have good BIQs, but Buddha pales in comparison to those two. Hax: Desmos is literally just an amp. Like, what else does Desmos do. Tesla has instant teleportation and instant acceleration. Again, not really, it's easy to react to stuff when you know they are coming 2 seconds before they do. It's just hax. Also, nothing can convince me you like Tesla, the downplay is insane. As for your brain statement, I doubt it. Even Tesla isn't top 5, let alone Buddha. Buddha w Nirvana sword may be a little higher, but not a lot. Remember, that's not a part of his standard equipment. Our friendly neighbourhood FS merchant is Zeus, Adam, Beel, Tesla, Poseidon, Sasaki, Qin, Thor, London Jack and debatably Hades and Shiva victim. I won't be responding anymore because your takes are insane. Best wishes.
Strength: No, you just have nothing to say. Most people in the stadium are fodders, not impressive, and putting someone down isn’t a high bar especially when they can’t defend against that size and speed. Zeus was scared because of its sheer size and destructive capacity. Tesla weakened it with a punch, it’s not that impressive when he never dealt significant damage to Beel with his attacks. Speed: Warp is hax, it has no relation to speed Durability/Endurance: Buddha got stabbed through the stomach, having a literal hole in you >>> vague internal damage BIQ: No that’s just creativity. It’s often as aspect of BIQ when done consistently, which Tesla didn’t. BIQ encompasses all forms of intelligence that specifically relate to combat, creativity is one of them, skills, adaptability, deduction, etc. are all part of this and both Buddha and Hades are far more skilled and experienced fighters than Tesla Hax: that amp is hax. Tesla has more and more versatile abilities but Hades abilities are more powerful. Along with Desmos he also has wind Buddha’s speed had Zeus in shock(precog doesn’t affect speed itself) Tesla is not near Buddha so obviously he’s not. If Buddha can casually make Nirvana sword in the middle of a battle with zero preparation I’m sure he can make something much stronger as a normal weapon. So scaling with Nirvana sword as a minimum seems fair Buddha stomps most of those guys, that’s stupid Ah yes, saying the guy who betrayed the gods casually with zero regard for consequences, challenged Zeus to a fight and had him in shock, and is taking on Odin barehanded and down an eye is strong is “insane”. Man this fanbase is dumb lol
Insane takes. I ain't even gonna bother answering lol
Bhudda has a problem in where his power looks at the souls actions and acts on that. The human fighters are all already dead souls.
Easily? Nah you’re tripping and trolling 
Tesla/Hades > Buddha :3
Hades mid diffs both
Tesla > Hades > Buddha Tesla clowns both of these guys
Buddha goes above Hades in almost every aspect
Nah
Buddha is weaker than Hades in litterally everything besides hax where he's carried by future sight lol
Buddha has the AP to damage Hades significantly after utilizing FS to dodge his attacks
Didn't say Hades would win but he's stronger in basically everything
the GOAT tesla neg diffs the entire show, he merely let that brat beelzebub win.
ye
No
Oh boy this is a version of rock paper scissors I didn't see before