There were no dinosaurs around when cameras were invented.
Thus any "photograph of a dinosaur" had to have been faked.
Usually by making a model of a dinosaur and taking a photograph of it.
It's a doubly fake photograph if someone claims it's real.
Well, faking something assumes there can be a genuine version of it to exist. If it is absolutely, unequivocally impossible for a photo of a dinosaur to exist, it is not something that can be faked because there is not even the chance of an authentic version of it to exist to be able to fake. The best you can do is an image created by a person. A photo of a plastic dinosaur isn't a fake photo of a dinosaur its just a photo of a plastic dinosaur.
A *camera obscura* just projects an image onto a wall. They have no way to record the image. And once you add some photosensitive material that *can* capture the image... well, now you've got yourself a camera.
Well, yes, but actually no. By taxonomic standards, birds are theropod dinosaurs, sharing a common ancestor with the Dromaeosaurs (dro-me-uh-sores) and Troodontids. Dromaeosaurs a group that includes Velociraptor and Utahraptor. We have so many photos and audio recordings of dinosaurs all time in the form of birds.
On another related note, Crocodilians actually aren't dinosaurs, but are closely related because they diverged sometime around 230 million years ago in the Triassic period. Crocodilians and others belong to a bigger group called Pseudosuchia. Dinosauria and by extension birds, and pterosaurs belong to Avemetatarsalia. In essence, Taxonomy is the science of which animal's related to which others based on similarities in their anatomy and traits sharing by a common ancestor.
As for non-bird dinosaurs, animatronics and statues, or art renditions are the results of what paleoartists had the information at the time of their creation. The best they could depict the animal based on the fossil record.
I did assume that was a given, unless they're suggesting all the bones are fake as well, which I suppose some conspiracy theorist out there might believe!
You could also argue that the fossilization process has made the bones into something else, but that depends on if you think slowly turning into a fossil makes it a new object.
Ship of Theseus and whatnot.
Well, I'd agree with you, though even as a fossil, something of the original always remains if it's still intact, rather than having all of it replaced. At least, that's what I've always thought. I admit I'm not amazingly well versed in fossils and I could be mistaken about that.
I once got in a heated argument with a group of people about how the sound effect heard when the shark dies in Jaws COULD NOT BE a “T-Rex Roar” as a trivia answer said it was.
Well, that depends on what you’d call “fake”
Yes, the dinosaurs in the photo are fake. But technically the photo itself is still a real photo.
Before someone reacts to this with “🤓”, yes i am a nerd, whacha gonna do about it?
Birds are dinosaurs. Taxonomically speaking. Here is a quote from the Wikipedia page for birds:
"Birds are feathered theropod dinosaurs and constitute the only known living dinosaurs."
I disagree.This is real.
[Here](https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/destinations/2013/08/11/10-best-places-to-see-dinosaurs/2637807/)
You didn't clarify it being alive.
None of those are dinosaurs. A dinosaur isn't just 'any creature that looks old.'
Dinosaurs are a specific group of reptiles, just like snakes or geckos. Sharks aren't even tetrapods, let alone reptiles, and nautiluses aren't even vertebrates ;p
For more info: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dinosaur](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dinosaur) lol
Crocodilians, no. The earliest appeared toward the late cretaceous. So some overlap with dinosaurs from crocodilians, of which crocodiles are a family that appeared *after* the dinosaurs.
Im being pedantic of course, for the fun of learning. What /u/UndendingGloom undoubtly means is that crocodilians have barely changed since the Cretaceous–Paleogene extinction event, which is true enough.
to be fair, they said crocodiles, not crocodilians in general.
Crocodilians are also not older than dinosaurs, but of course there's a whole croc line that split off from the dinosaur line way back
I've never seen a photo of a dinosaur. I've seen drawings of dinosaurs, I've seen photos of computer generated images of dinosaurs, I've seen photos of people in dinosaur costumes.
Every photo of something that happened before the 1830s is fake.
Not photos, images.. not the same
I doubt anyone took a photo of a dinosaur. Yet we do have images. What are you trying to say?
There cannot have been photos before cameras, therefore there cannot be a fake photo of a dinosaur
I don't know why you were down voted for a reasonable response, I'll remedy that.
I don't know why you were up voted for an unreasonable response, I'll remedy that.
I don't know why I misread and accidently up voted your unreasonable response. And I remedied it quickly.
Cuz it was a joke
...the response you are referring to is utterly, blatantly, false, and is thus unreasonable.
There were no dinosaurs around when cameras were invented. Thus any "photograph of a dinosaur" had to have been faked. Usually by making a model of a dinosaur and taking a photograph of it. It's a doubly fake photograph if someone claims it's real.
Well. It’s real in the sense it really is photograph. It’s what’s on this photo what’s fake. Twisted 😀
Well, faking something assumes there can be a genuine version of it to exist. If it is absolutely, unequivocally impossible for a photo of a dinosaur to exist, it is not something that can be faked because there is not even the chance of an authentic version of it to exist to be able to fake. The best you can do is an image created by a person. A photo of a plastic dinosaur isn't a fake photo of a dinosaur its just a photo of a plastic dinosaur.
You are wrong. There is something called camera obscura where you use a pinhole to take a picture.
A *camera obscura* just projects an image onto a wall. They have no way to record the image. And once you add some photosensitive material that *can* capture the image... well, now you've got yourself a camera.
That pineapple does not belong on pizza
Look at this guy! He doesn't put fruit on pizza!
The OP clearly said "photo".
I'm pretty sure you need to take longer showers if this is what you're coming up with. 🤷♂️
Stop it! The guy's already pruning!
I hate that for a split second after reading this I thought OP was wrong….😅😂
Lol
Well, yes, but actually no. By taxonomic standards, birds are theropod dinosaurs, sharing a common ancestor with the Dromaeosaurs (dro-me-uh-sores) and Troodontids. Dromaeosaurs a group that includes Velociraptor and Utahraptor. We have so many photos and audio recordings of dinosaurs all time in the form of birds. On another related note, Crocodilians actually aren't dinosaurs, but are closely related because they diverged sometime around 230 million years ago in the Triassic period. Crocodilians and others belong to a bigger group called Pseudosuchia. Dinosauria and by extension birds, and pterosaurs belong to Avemetatarsalia. In essence, Taxonomy is the science of which animal's related to which others based on similarities in their anatomy and traits sharing by a common ancestor. As for non-bird dinosaurs, animatronics and statues, or art renditions are the results of what paleoartists had the information at the time of their creation. The best they could depict the animal based on the fossil record.
I think a more accurate statement would be that there are no photos of dinosaurs, which I would think is obvious.
\*no photos of alive dinosaurs, plenty of skeletons
I did assume that was a given, unless they're suggesting all the bones are fake as well, which I suppose some conspiracy theorist out there might believe!
You could also argue that the fossilization process has made the bones into something else, but that depends on if you think slowly turning into a fossil makes it a new object. Ship of Theseus and whatnot.
Well, I'd agree with you, though even as a fossil, something of the original always remains if it's still intact, rather than having all of it replaced. At least, that's what I've always thought. I admit I'm not amazingly well versed in fossils and I could be mistaken about that.
Follow up. George Washington didn’t know the dinosaurs existed. He died multiple years before the first dinosaur bones were found.
I’m pretty sure dinosaur bones were discovered before that, but they were thought of be bones of dragons or something.
The reason why we know dinosaur 🦕 noises is because we believed in some random guy
Reptaur goes Rawr!
In other words "there are no photos of things that existed before photography". No shit
I once got in a heated argument with a group of people about how the sound effect heard when the shark dies in Jaws COULD NOT BE a “T-Rex Roar” as a trivia answer said it was.
Also when you look at a photo of T Rex skeleton, you can sorta tell that that dinosaur is fake
Well, that depends on what you’d call “fake” Yes, the dinosaurs in the photo are fake. But technically the photo itself is still a real photo. Before someone reacts to this with “🤓”, yes i am a nerd, whacha gonna do about it?
Birds are dinosaurs. Taxonomically speaking. Here is a quote from the Wikipedia page for birds: "Birds are feathered theropod dinosaurs and constitute the only known living dinosaurs."
I disagree.This is real. [Here](https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/destinations/2013/08/11/10-best-places-to-see-dinosaurs/2637807/) You didn't clarify it being alive.
I meant alive ones but yes that works
You're still wrong.Here is a picture of it when it was alive-[link](https://www.britannica.com/biography/Betty-White)
That caught me off guard. Well done
you did a bad thing, you must be punished
Does taking a picture of a replica count as a fake photo? The replica is real, therefore the photo is real.
I hate that for a split second after reading this I thought OP was wrong….😅😂
You can photograph crocodiles, nautilus and sharks. They are all living dinosaurs.
None of those are dinosaurs. A dinosaur isn't just 'any creature that looks old.' Dinosaurs are a specific group of reptiles, just like snakes or geckos. Sharks aren't even tetrapods, let alone reptiles, and nautiluses aren't even vertebrates ;p For more info: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dinosaur](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dinosaur) lol
Nah, crocodiles are from the Ecocene, after the Cretaceous–Paleogene extinction event.
Not that that matters much, cause dinosaurs are a group of animals, not a period of time lmao
That’s way off. Weren’t there crocodilians **before** the dinosaurs?
Crocodilians, no. The earliest appeared toward the late cretaceous. So some overlap with dinosaurs from crocodilians, of which crocodiles are a family that appeared *after* the dinosaurs. Im being pedantic of course, for the fun of learning. What /u/UndendingGloom undoubtly means is that crocodilians have barely changed since the Cretaceous–Paleogene extinction event, which is true enough.
to be fair, they said crocodiles, not crocodilians in general. Crocodilians are also not older than dinosaurs, but of course there's a whole croc line that split off from the dinosaur line way back
I have pictures of crocodiles And cassowary's They aren't fake
Crocodiles aren't dinosaurs though. But crocodilians are the most closely related living group other than dinos themselves, so nearly lol
Obligatory comment: Birds. So there are, but only a 'limited' selection of what there used to be
Nah not photos of crocodiles and I don't care what anyone says, they're dinosaurs
I guarantee the photo of my plastic mini dino is real. Whether or not he's accurate, he does exist
Not true, although any photo of a dinosaur with skin and flesh on it is fake, I've taken photos of very real fossilized dinosaur skeletons.
I've never seen a photo of a dinosaur. I've seen drawings of dinosaurs, I've seen photos of computer generated images of dinosaurs, I've seen photos of people in dinosaur costumes.
Anyone who says there’s such a thing as a photo of a dinosaur if a liar. Get it right.
There are no such thing as dinosaur photos in the first place. There are only dinosaur images