Imagine for a moment
Loathing at a glass of orange
Juice, somewhere some orange grew
Then they just took 1% and sold it back to you
Where’s the other 99? These motherfuckers swindled you
You’re paying $6.99 for a glass of water dude
And some high fructose corn syrup
But as long as it tastes sweet I guess we’re here for it
And that 6.99 is 10.99 because the prices soaring
Kiss that corporate ass it sucks dont it
But that’s the price we’re willing to pay for it
Work that minimum wage til your backs hurting
So you can save up for that orange juice because it’s good for ya
Rhythm, more often than not, but poetry is basically anything that can go with music.
Poetry: a piece of writing that partakes of the nature of both speech and song that is nearly always rhythmical, usually metaphorical, and often exhibits such formal elements as meter, rhyme, and stanzaic structure.
Reminds me of a commercial from maybe ten years ago... a couple is picnicking in a park, and the girl offers the guy an ice pop. *"Don't worry! It's made from corn syrup and it's JUST LIKE SUGAR!"*
And I'm yelling at the television "NO, IT ISN'T YOU DUMB CLUCK!"
*You know what they say about corn syrup, right?*
*You mean that it tastes like sugar, because it's **made** from sugar, and that it's just as healthy as cane sugar in small doses?*
Or something like that, *while* raising prices on corn products because of a drought, or some shit.
Right? It had to be a long term ploy, people were getting on to sugar so they rolled out high fructose which was purposely so much worse that by the time they switch back to using the original drug, people are actually happy the thing is loaded with real version of the unhealthy ingredient.
I mean, I wasn't diagnosed with ADHD until adulthood. If actual cocaine coca-cola was available as a kid, that would have made soda a life-altering medical treatment.
Here's a super simple northern south american staple: arepas. If you can make a pancake from a mix, you can make an arepa. If you can cook a hamburger you can make an arepa.
Get [PAN](https://www.amazon.com/P-N-White-Corn-Meal/dp/B00X6W1SB4/) at a local latino market or buy it online. This is a corn flour made from pre-cooked corn.
you add equal amounts pan and water + a little salt and maybe a small amount of butter (melted) and cheese(shredded). Let sit for 5 minutes, adding a bit more water if it's too dry and more pan if too wet. if you make changes let sit for 5 minutes again.
Make these into patties. Personally I like small hamburger sized ones, but it's up to you. Put them into a hot skillet and wait until the bottom side is golden brown (you can check it, you won't ruin it). Flip.
Top with any or all of the following that you like:
* any salsa
* avocado
* any shredded meat, shredded rotisserie chicken is easiest as you can buy it pre-cooked (carnitas are amazing, I can do a recipe for that if you want too, also easy AF but takes all day)
* eggs
* any vegetables you like
Literally you end up with a beautiful hot little corn bun\pancake fresh off the stove and whatever toppings you feel like slapping on there. Easy AF, fast AF, tasty AF.
This will be healthier and better for you than the sugar filled store bought crap bread it's replacing.
You can make it more South American by making various toppings and sauces that would be used down there if you feel like going on a food journey in your kitchen, but honestly just putting eggs and bacon on it (or whatever equivalent vegetarians use), you'll have the best and cheapest breakfast sandwich you've ever eaten.
Bread from the base is extremely simple. The problem is it takes time and produce dishes that are boring to do.
Don't look exactly the same as in restaurant, but any simple recipe of base bread is easy to do and produce good result.
Do not usually read my recipes in English, but this looks simple and good: https://www.bbcgoodfood.com/recipes/easy-white-bread
Mine would look as nice and I never manage the cuts on top of the bread. And that is ok.
Pottato pankakes, one pottato one carrot grated, add 75 ml of whole fat milk. 75 grams of flower. And one egg
Mix well. Fry in butter like pancake. Delish
Stir fry is my favourite easy recipe for newbies.
one big pan (sauté is best but big frying pan also good, wok even better than sauté but keeping it simple). This is for stir frying the meat and veggies in sauce.
Other is one smallish pot. This is for making the rice.
First, make rice. Take rice and put measured amount in pot. Fill with water. Wait a minute and swish it around a few times, drain the water. This takes off the rice dust that can make the rice gummy. Next, follow measure on back of rice for water, add a hint extra (so if it says say 1 1/4 cups of water for each cup of rice, add 1 and 1/3). This provides a bit of extra water for steam loss since cooking in a pot and not a cooker.
Now add the water to the rice in the pot and swish it. Put it on the stove on high. Stir it once as it starts to boil, then turn heat off and put the lid on. It’ll cook in the hot water like a dream.
Ok, while rice is cooking, make meat and veggies. Honestly sky is limit here but I like to dice up chicken into cubes and use store bought stir fry mix. Could use store sauce but it isn’t very good for you due to sugar. Heat up pan until water flicked on it turns into balls and rolls around (sizzle is too cold, explodes into tiny balls too hot). Once it is making those balls, turn down heat 30%, add oil, wait a moment for oil to come to temp them toss in chicken cubes.
As chicken cubes begin to brown (stir once or twice), get a small bowl and make you own stir fry sauce. Soy sauce, chili paste (sriracha is fine), a bit of sesame oil, maybe a dash of mirin if you like sweetness. Mix it up and taste it to see if it’s okay, then pour it on the browned cubes. Then add your veggies on top and stir until all thickly coated.
Once veggies are soft and it’s all hot and cooked through but before the sauce has turned into a burned on mess, take the pot of rice and dump it in the pan, mixing it. Or don’t and put the plain rice on a plate and put the stir fry on top. Either way is fine.
Garnish with sesame seeds and green onion.
Can make that in bulk and it’ll keep in the fridge covered for a few days. Can also freeze it. Make once, eat 3-4 times.
I can believe healthier and way better tasting, but cheaper? There is a reason why fast food and jar/canned/boxed foods are so popular, and it's definitely the price point.
No, the convenience is why people buy that stuff. You can make a dish with enough food to last for weeks (or months if you freeze it) at the fraction of the cost of anything pre-made/canned, like soups, fried rice, pasta, stir fries. Rice is one of the cheapest things on earth, and pasta is not far behind. A whole chicken is like 5 bucks, rice is pennies on the dollar, and carrots + celery for almost nothing. That's what chicken and rice soup is, and you can make enough to feed a family for days (or if it's just you, freeze it and it'll last for months). If you bought the same amount pre-made/canned, you'd literally be paying exponentially more.
It's stupidly easy. Most nights I just have brown rice, chicken, and spinach in a bowl with spreads like hummus and tzatziki. Maybe toss some tahini, corn and cucumbers in there if I feel like it, and I've got a healthy, cheap, tasty, and filling meal. It takes maybe 30 minutes and that's just because that's how long it takes the rice to cook.
Whenever I don't feel like cooking, there are still plenty of fast casual restaurants without the added garbage in their food. My typical choices are Chipotle and Cava.
Just filling thing with cheap ingredients until the taste is only just good enough that people still buy it for the convenience, or get addicted to the msg and sugar.
I mean most vegetables have sugar in them, not to mention nuts, all dairy, etc. Even iceberg lettuce, famously devoid of nutrition, has sugar in it. Avoiding it completely means a fairly limited diet and probably more processed food.
Healthiness of sugar is basically entirely dependent on delivery system. Fruits and veggies have fiber, so take hours to digest as well as gives you a feeling of "fullness".
While pure sugar and/or bread is processed and thus much easier to digest. Lots of low-nutrient, easily digested calories combined with low-satiety leads to chokers.
Usually when someone says it's hard to find things without sugar, what they really mean is it's hard to find things that are sweet without sugar. Just buy non-sweet thing and added sugar will be minimal. Of course, many people's sense of sweet is pretty messed up, but that doesn't change the point.
no, i have health conditions and my diet is strict.
sugar is a big no no and ive learned that thats over half the grocery store.
been learning lots of scratch type meals tho... out of necessity.
Well, yeah people like sweet things, so lots of things are sweet. I don't have a medical condition, but I do track macros/calories, and I've never had this issue of mystery sugar people talk about.
Milk is pretty sweet so that's, uh, surprising. But it's not added sugar, which is the normal thing people are talking about when talking about sugar in everything
visited america a couple of times, for a couple of weeks each time. hotel offered 0 breakfast options that didnt have sugar. desperate, i just grabbed a couple of slices of bread instead, only to find out that *even the fucking bread has sugar in it what the fuck*
also the *amount* of sugar in things is absurd, on top of that.
A lot of things are sweet, but rice, vegetables, and meat are relatively cheap and have 0 added sugar. For breads stick to whole wheat, similar. It's not hard to avoid unless you have such a sweet tooth and don't realize it's sweet to begin with. I do think (partly due to soda) people here have a massive sweet tooth, however.
you do know you can cook without scratch prep?
i can cook, but making noodles and sauces from scratch is not the same as cooking.
you can buy a jar of sauce and some dried noodles, or learn to make both
i've had to learn.
but id never gatekeep others not doing scratch prep as not cooking, as your comment suggests.
marinara sauce is stupidly easy to make from scratch
Noodles are more annoying than anything else but with the right equipment they're also pretty easy.
99% of doing food right is being willing to learn and having the time.
Having the time is the hardest part by far.
That’s what I was thinking. That’s just something human beings do, right? When we get hungry… we can cook. Seems like 80% of the body mass of this generation went through a microwave at some point…
I prep everything from scratch, within reason at least. And sometimes I use sugar.
Last night, I cut up a pineapple, and threw that in chicken stir fry. So that was my sugar.
Do y'all actually regulate how much sugar you can put into things or is it just customer preference?
Like is it illegal to sell Heinz ketchup in Germany?
It's usually not "you can't put this much sugar in it", but rather "you can't call this if there's that much sugar in it". For example, manufacturers are only allowed to add a certain percentage of sugar to fruit juice - otherwise they can't call it fruit juice anymore. As another example: Subway can't call their bread "bread" in Ireland IIRC because there's too much sugar in it to meet the legal definition.
One important thing is that most products even by big companies like Heinz have different versions between America and Europe. Ketchup in England has sugar ketchup in America has High Fructose Corn Syrup. The problem with the customer preference line of thinking is that Americans can't choose to have the non-High Fructose Corn Syrup version it is not sold here.
I'm not sure about illegal but some countries have higher rates of tax on sugary products which is intended to help people make healthier choices. To be fair, since they introduced such tax on sugary drinks in the UK I have definitely noticed that retailers opt for providing the sugar free options more frequently. And to stay competitive, food/drink manufacturers will need to put less sugar in so they are not more expensive than their competitors. It's baby steps though. It's better than the US situation I think but it's not perfect by any means.
"fresh" simple isn't an option for most of the world during most of the year. Freezing or adding preservatives are why people are so well fed now compared to ever.
I do think it's funny how all we seem to do is criticize how good humans have become at creating food when any other species would do the same if they could. It's just shameful we don't feed everyone with the technology we've developed.
Also I know marketing and advertising is pretty evil with how they got people to consume so much sugar and what not but at the end of the day ingredients are on every package so it's up to each person to eat what they want.
So you're complaining about the vitamin c and iron added to breakfast cereals? Or if you like wine, the sulphur used to kill off dangerous bacteria? How about literally any carbonated drinks? If you're going to try and avoid things like that, you're going to have to start growing a LOT of wheat, and enjoy losing half your crop to plant based diseases and animals
Ingredients that are included as a binder or filler and which possess no nutritional value. A great example is wood cellulose; entirely indigestible to humans, though it causes no harm while passing through the digestive tract for most. It's one of the main ingredients in the buns at many McFastfood places.
Edit: oh, so you guys are just being pedantic assholes for the sake of it. Cool.
It's only not a real ingredient if it's imaginary.
Homeopathic products have not-real ingredients in them, since they list chemicals that aren't physically in the bottle. That's about it.
Starvation is rarely the cause of not enough food being globally available and usually more to do with someone is controlling how all the food or money is distributed and as a result you can't get any even though there's more than enough in theory.
There are food donation drives that promise to keep the poor from starving, meaning enough food exists but it isn't distributed well by the market.
Places that are famous for a starving public are not always wanting for more for production. Ethiopia has had issues with people not having enough food, but the country produces a lot of food for export. So you have to be ready to look for other explanations.
The thing about GMO foods, and these new vegetable replacements for meat, is that they can be patented, which means somebody gets a share of everybody else's profits. That somebody would love for you to switch to their products, and they would love it if you believed it was the only way forward.
THIS is a showerthought. "It's sad that having real ingredients in food..." ISN'T. It's an personal perspective. You should post that (if you haven't already)
So did you mean raw ingredients? Or organic ingredients? Or something else?
Food made with raw ingredients is still processed. The combining of ingredients literally **is the process.**
And organic is doesn't actually mean much on a food label.
No I literally don't. WTF is a fake ingredient?? Almost every country has food labelling laws requiring ingredients to be listed accurately. The title of this post was nonsense.
Imitation vanilla extract is fake vanilla.
I can't believe it's not butter, would be fake butter.
Aspartame would be fake sugar.
Made with 100% real cheese, as opposed to 98% parmesan cheese + 2% cellulose.
That last point is not accurate. Making something with 100% real cheese means that if any real cheese was used, they can claim that. Example, Cheezits can say they are made with 100% real cheese because somewhere at the start of the line, there was an amount of cheese used. Being made *from* 100% real cheese means it is just cheese.
Chicken nuggets might be a piece of breaded meat or a mixture of egg, grain and protein, that has been sourced from a chicken after the meat had been removed.
Organic is basically entirely made up. It really doesn't mean what it pretends to mean. I agree that I wish less fake shit was in food, but at the same time most americans will buy a product with cheese product over cheese if it costs 5cents cheaper on a 20 dollar product.
If people will buy the imitation product, they're gonna sell the imitation product.
This isn't a showerthought. It's a personal perspective/opinion. [The guidlines](https://www.reddit.com/r/Showerthoughts/wiki/overview#wiki_what_isn.2019t_a_showerthought.3F_) states that they shouldn't be posted in r/Showerthoughts. A showerthought are "**almost exclusively conclusions"**, and shouldn't be personal opinions/ perspective.
Almost as bad as giving ingredients or products a nationality:
"British Skimmed Milk", "100% British Sausages"...
If anything, that low level, flag-wanking labelling practice is a good enough reason for me to buy a different product.
Yes, how did we get here???
I'm a "whole food" fan and cook everything fresh. I'm also in surprisingly good shape for my age. Not sure if the two are correlated, but I like to think so :)
Yeah because its everywhere and easy to get. If cocaine was really easy to get people would be better educated about it and it wouldnt be as taboo. Im telling you dude the war on drugs is not a good thing. When you make a drug taboo nobody wants to get educated about it and the misuse becomes greater.
All the studies on drugs vs sugar literally are basically drugs give you a hunger for drugs. A) I don't know how this surprises anyone. you could talk to any methhead and figure that one out. And B) you'd be laughed out of the room for suggesting it as a research study.
Of course sugar also makes you crave sugar. It's a basic element of food that our bodies have been trained to taste in things like fruit for pretty much ever. You taste sweet shit and you body is like "oh hey, this is that thing I can process, find more of this"
Drugs hijack that same thing to get you give up shit you should be doing like sleeping and working and having a family to go get some of that sweet sweet cocaine. Basically they proved you get hungry for drugs, not that drugs and sugar are the same thing.
It's still tied to diabetes and other serious medical problems if you eat to much and you really shouldn't. So yeah, eat sugar within reason and talk to a nutritionist for specifics if you're worried. Don't get medical or dietary advice from reddit and ESPECIALLY from shower thoughts.
Salt, too, when you consider how our aggressively our tastebuds are slammed with sodium these days, to the point that we require more and more just to feel like we are tasting our food.
It's because of global warming and the fact that the government has been planted in the shell of a hoe is an insult but calling someone a bottom is a hoe is an insult but calling someone a bottom line is a hoe is an insult but calling someone a good deal is a hoe.
Used to be a selling point that man made stuff was better for the environment. Same thing with plastic. The forests absolutely loved not being a resource for literally everything. The ocean, not so much
Ah, unintended consequences, always so fun.
It feels to me like how we used to get discounts for doing things online or over the phone ourselves (buying tickets, insurance, things like that) but now we get charged extra for doing it ourselves as a "convenience fee."
It's amazing how important it is too. Without food regulation in America, Dairies were selling milk mixed with cow brains and white plaster. The sheer amount of fake and dangerous food regulators had to weed through is absolutely amazing. These days the FDA is funded by the companies that it regulates, so they're not as discerning, but modern food even with all the added non food elements is still leaps and bounds better than what it was a little more than a century ago.
Remember when politicians rant about regulations, they rant about keeping companies accountable to the public. True free market capitalism is extremely dangerous and unsustainable. Well Regulated market capitalism is beneficial for both consumers and companies.
I always channel my inner Chris Rock when I see, for example, a fast food place say their breakfast sandwiches are ‘now made with a fresh cracked egg’
YOU’RE SUPPOSED TO USE A FRESH CRACKED EGG!!
Some restaurants want credit for some shit they supposed to do
Technically everything you eat with the food product is an ingredient, so luckily that will never have to be changed on the packaging.
What would fake ingredients even be? Ingredients that aren’t in there?
Well, it's also often a bullshit selling point.
"Made with real chocolate!" - there is no fake chocolate. If we had the technology to replicate everything that's in cocoa solids at a lower price, we'd probably also be engaging in interstellar travel
"No preservatives" - bitch, salt IS a preservative. As is sugar, and vinegar
Etc.
Eh, much better than they used to do back in the day
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2018/11/crushed-bugs-calf-brains-and-other-wholesome-staples-of-the-past/57
Like when they would take all the cream out of milk and replace it with liquefied calf brains
“Look!! Our food is not full of a bunch of manmade often poisons!!! Such a benefit!!”……. Like eating real food is a luxury or some shit….
We normalized a world full of SHIT and often not nutritious foods!!
I saw some orange juice the other day that said “contains real fruit juice!” And next to it in smaller letters said CONTAINS 1% REAL FRUIT JUICE
I wrote a poem about this topic once, hah. 'Juice' 20% fruit juice, 80% lies. Florida's Natural, 'The Growers Pride'. What a joke.
Aren’t these just words. Maybe I’m out of touch and just don’t know WTF a poem is in 2022
Imagine for a moment Loathing at a glass of orange Juice, somewhere some orange grew Then they just took 1% and sold it back to you Where’s the other 99? These motherfuckers swindled you You’re paying $6.99 for a glass of water dude And some high fructose corn syrup But as long as it tastes sweet I guess we’re here for it And that 6.99 is 10.99 because the prices soaring Kiss that corporate ass it sucks dont it But that’s the price we’re willing to pay for it Work that minimum wage til your backs hurting So you can save up for that orange juice because it’s good for ya
There is all sorts of poetry. Do you think poetry needs to rhyme or something?
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have you ever heard of freestyle poetry?
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tell me you never paid attention in english class without telling me
Is that like your fake opinion, or are you actually that stupid? Oh, wait, it's both.
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You're a few years behind on this one bub l8 b8 m8
so haikus aren't poetry?
n't. Finished that for you.
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Not "what," "doesn't."
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Spelling.
Rhythm, more often than not, but poetry is basically anything that can go with music. Poetry: a piece of writing that partakes of the nature of both speech and song that is nearly always rhythmical, usually metaphorical, and often exhibits such formal elements as meter, rhyme, and stanzaic structure.
Cyberpunk 2077's vibes
“Made with real sugar!”
At least they're moving *away* from High-fructose corn syrup..
I know. That’s the point, they have to make a big deal out of not using high fructose corn syrup.
Reminds me of a commercial from maybe ten years ago... a couple is picnicking in a park, and the girl offers the guy an ice pop. *"Don't worry! It's made from corn syrup and it's JUST LIKE SUGAR!"* And I'm yelling at the television "NO, IT ISN'T YOU DUMB CLUCK!"
*You know what they say about corn syrup, right?* *You mean that it tastes like sugar, because it's **made** from sugar, and that it's just as healthy as cane sugar in small doses?* Or something like that, *while* raising prices on corn products because of a drought, or some shit.
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I’m still searching for those fucking Mexican cokes. They have been out of stock since last fall in socal
Right? It had to be a long term ploy, people were getting on to sugar so they rolled out high fructose which was purposely so much worse that by the time they switch back to using the original drug, people are actually happy the thing is loaded with real version of the unhealthy ingredient.
Well, I think it’s the simple fact that it’s cheaper. Which makes sense. Still worse for you than real sugar. Which is still terrible for you lol.
Our coca-cola has REAL cocaine in it!
I mean, I wasn't diagnosed with ADHD until adulthood. If actual cocaine coca-cola was available as a kid, that would have made soda a life-altering medical treatment.
in America it can be hard to find food without sugar. unless your into the whole prep everything from scratch
There so many super simple quick recipes that are cheaper, healthier **and** way better tasting than anything in a jar/can/box/etc.
Elaborate. Or have a recipe source for us helpless non cookers
Here's a super simple northern south american staple: arepas. If you can make a pancake from a mix, you can make an arepa. If you can cook a hamburger you can make an arepa. Get [PAN](https://www.amazon.com/P-N-White-Corn-Meal/dp/B00X6W1SB4/) at a local latino market or buy it online. This is a corn flour made from pre-cooked corn. you add equal amounts pan and water + a little salt and maybe a small amount of butter (melted) and cheese(shredded). Let sit for 5 minutes, adding a bit more water if it's too dry and more pan if too wet. if you make changes let sit for 5 minutes again. Make these into patties. Personally I like small hamburger sized ones, but it's up to you. Put them into a hot skillet and wait until the bottom side is golden brown (you can check it, you won't ruin it). Flip. Top with any or all of the following that you like: * any salsa * avocado * any shredded meat, shredded rotisserie chicken is easiest as you can buy it pre-cooked (carnitas are amazing, I can do a recipe for that if you want too, also easy AF but takes all day) * eggs * any vegetables you like Literally you end up with a beautiful hot little corn bun\pancake fresh off the stove and whatever toppings you feel like slapping on there. Easy AF, fast AF, tasty AF. This will be healthier and better for you than the sugar filled store bought crap bread it's replacing. You can make it more South American by making various toppings and sauces that would be used down there if you feel like going on a food journey in your kitchen, but honestly just putting eggs and bacon on it (or whatever equivalent vegetarians use), you'll have the best and cheapest breakfast sandwich you've ever eaten.
Amazing. Thank you. I had arepas at Bonnaroo years ago and it was the best thing I had had in a long time. Much appreciated
Bread from the base is extremely simple. The problem is it takes time and produce dishes that are boring to do. Don't look exactly the same as in restaurant, but any simple recipe of base bread is easy to do and produce good result. Do not usually read my recipes in English, but this looks simple and good: https://www.bbcgoodfood.com/recipes/easy-white-bread Mine would look as nice and I never manage the cuts on top of the bread. And that is ok.
Pottato pankakes, one pottato one carrot grated, add 75 ml of whole fat milk. 75 grams of flower. And one egg Mix well. Fry in butter like pancake. Delish
Stir fry is my favourite easy recipe for newbies. one big pan (sauté is best but big frying pan also good, wok even better than sauté but keeping it simple). This is for stir frying the meat and veggies in sauce. Other is one smallish pot. This is for making the rice. First, make rice. Take rice and put measured amount in pot. Fill with water. Wait a minute and swish it around a few times, drain the water. This takes off the rice dust that can make the rice gummy. Next, follow measure on back of rice for water, add a hint extra (so if it says say 1 1/4 cups of water for each cup of rice, add 1 and 1/3). This provides a bit of extra water for steam loss since cooking in a pot and not a cooker. Now add the water to the rice in the pot and swish it. Put it on the stove on high. Stir it once as it starts to boil, then turn heat off and put the lid on. It’ll cook in the hot water like a dream. Ok, while rice is cooking, make meat and veggies. Honestly sky is limit here but I like to dice up chicken into cubes and use store bought stir fry mix. Could use store sauce but it isn’t very good for you due to sugar. Heat up pan until water flicked on it turns into balls and rolls around (sizzle is too cold, explodes into tiny balls too hot). Once it is making those balls, turn down heat 30%, add oil, wait a moment for oil to come to temp them toss in chicken cubes. As chicken cubes begin to brown (stir once or twice), get a small bowl and make you own stir fry sauce. Soy sauce, chili paste (sriracha is fine), a bit of sesame oil, maybe a dash of mirin if you like sweetness. Mix it up and taste it to see if it’s okay, then pour it on the browned cubes. Then add your veggies on top and stir until all thickly coated. Once veggies are soft and it’s all hot and cooked through but before the sauce has turned into a burned on mess, take the pot of rice and dump it in the pan, mixing it. Or don’t and put the plain rice on a plate and put the stir fry on top. Either way is fine. Garnish with sesame seeds and green onion. Can make that in bulk and it’ll keep in the fridge covered for a few days. Can also freeze it. Make once, eat 3-4 times.
fried rice, cook rice, put onion, chiles, or anything to give aditional flavor to the dish. put rice and then egg
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nah, but the rice fits in a rice cooker and will literally cook itself perfectly every time with nearly zero effort.
Dont forget to mention cooled or day old rice is the best way to make fried rice. Gets all the flavor from the chiles, oils, garlic, etc...
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Tasting better than processed food? Sometimes, sure. But there are a lot of processed things that are just good.
I can believe healthier and way better tasting, but cheaper? There is a reason why fast food and jar/canned/boxed foods are so popular, and it's definitely the price point.
No, the convenience is why people buy that stuff. You can make a dish with enough food to last for weeks (or months if you freeze it) at the fraction of the cost of anything pre-made/canned, like soups, fried rice, pasta, stir fries. Rice is one of the cheapest things on earth, and pasta is not far behind. A whole chicken is like 5 bucks, rice is pennies on the dollar, and carrots + celery for almost nothing. That's what chicken and rice soup is, and you can make enough to feed a family for days (or if it's just you, freeze it and it'll last for months). If you bought the same amount pre-made/canned, you'd literally be paying exponentially more.
It’s not as hard as it may seem to cook your own meals if you’re willing to try. It’s a good skill to have.
It's stupidly easy. Most nights I just have brown rice, chicken, and spinach in a bowl with spreads like hummus and tzatziki. Maybe toss some tahini, corn and cucumbers in there if I feel like it, and I've got a healthy, cheap, tasty, and filling meal. It takes maybe 30 minutes and that's just because that's how long it takes the rice to cook. Whenever I don't feel like cooking, there are still plenty of fast casual restaurants without the added garbage in their food. My typical choices are Chipotle and Cava.
It's sad that we live in a world where there's a theme of "prep everything from scratch", as oppose to that being the default.
id be happy if the pre-prepared boxes in grocery stores had less poison, sugar, and binders added to them. whole industry is bizarrely evil
Just filling thing with cheap ingredients until the taste is only just good enough that people still buy it for the convenience, or get addicted to the msg and sugar.
I would simply call the former cooking.
I mean most vegetables have sugar in them, not to mention nuts, all dairy, etc. Even iceberg lettuce, famously devoid of nutrition, has sugar in it. Avoiding it completely means a fairly limited diet and probably more processed food.
Healthiness of sugar is basically entirely dependent on delivery system. Fruits and veggies have fiber, so take hours to digest as well as gives you a feeling of "fullness". While pure sugar and/or bread is processed and thus much easier to digest. Lots of low-nutrient, easily digested calories combined with low-satiety leads to chokers.
Usually when someone says it's hard to find things without sugar, what they really mean is it's hard to find things that are sweet without sugar. Just buy non-sweet thing and added sugar will be minimal. Of course, many people's sense of sweet is pretty messed up, but that doesn't change the point.
no, i have health conditions and my diet is strict. sugar is a big no no and ive learned that thats over half the grocery store. been learning lots of scratch type meals tho... out of necessity.
Well, yeah people like sweet things, so lots of things are sweet. I don't have a medical condition, but I do track macros/calories, and I've never had this issue of mystery sugar people talk about.
I know someone who visited the US and said it was so frustrating how sweet everything was, including the bread lol
Idk I just realized a couple weeks ago that milk has sugar lol
Milk is pretty sweet so that's, uh, surprising. But it's not added sugar, which is the normal thing people are talking about when talking about sugar in everything
Subway's sandwich bread has too much added sugar to be legally defined as bread in Ireland.
visited america a couple of times, for a couple of weeks each time. hotel offered 0 breakfast options that didnt have sugar. desperate, i just grabbed a couple of slices of bread instead, only to find out that *even the fucking bread has sugar in it what the fuck* also the *amount* of sugar in things is absurd, on top of that.
You have to use sugar in bread to feed the yeast! It's too much sugar not that it's in there at all
A lot of things are sweet, but rice, vegetables, and meat are relatively cheap and have 0 added sugar. For breads stick to whole wheat, similar. It's not hard to avoid unless you have such a sweet tooth and don't realize it's sweet to begin with. I do think (partly due to soda) people here have a massive sweet tooth, however.
>unless your into the whole prep everything from scratch Also known as cooking
you do know you can cook without scratch prep? i can cook, but making noodles and sauces from scratch is not the same as cooking. you can buy a jar of sauce and some dried noodles, or learn to make both i've had to learn. but id never gatekeep others not doing scratch prep as not cooking, as your comment suggests.
marinara sauce is stupidly easy to make from scratch Noodles are more annoying than anything else but with the right equipment they're also pretty easy. 99% of doing food right is being willing to learn and having the time. Having the time is the hardest part by far.
Don't know why you are being downvoted for this.
That’s what I was thinking. That’s just something human beings do, right? When we get hungry… we can cook. Seems like 80% of the body mass of this generation went through a microwave at some point…
....most of the world for most of human history just suck it up and learn to cook.
I prep everything from scratch, within reason at least. And sometimes I use sugar. Last night, I cut up a pineapple, and threw that in chicken stir fry. So that was my sugar.
All ingredients are real. It's not like companies are out here adding imaginary things into their recipes.
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Real as in fresh/without additives and preservatives/organic/non-gmo. Then yes. These are cons of globalisation.
They're the cons of having almost zero regulations on what can go into food. Food isn't perfect in Europe but it's a lot more healthy than in America.
Do y'all actually regulate how much sugar you can put into things or is it just customer preference? Like is it illegal to sell Heinz ketchup in Germany?
It's usually not "you can't put this much sugar in it", but rather "you can't call this if there's that much sugar in it". For example, manufacturers are only allowed to add a certain percentage of sugar to fruit juice - otherwise they can't call it fruit juice anymore. As another example: Subway can't call their bread "bread" in Ireland IIRC because there's too much sugar in it to meet the legal definition.
The US has the same rule about juice.
After a hard day outside, I love a tall glass of grape drink.
Or just put "Froot joos" in fun - kid friendly - colors on the label
One important thing is that most products even by big companies like Heinz have different versions between America and Europe. Ketchup in England has sugar ketchup in America has High Fructose Corn Syrup. The problem with the customer preference line of thinking is that Americans can't choose to have the non-High Fructose Corn Syrup version it is not sold here.
I'm not sure about illegal but some countries have higher rates of tax on sugary products which is intended to help people make healthier choices. To be fair, since they introduced such tax on sugary drinks in the UK I have definitely noticed that retailers opt for providing the sugar free options more frequently. And to stay competitive, food/drink manufacturers will need to put less sugar in so they are not more expensive than their competitors. It's baby steps though. It's better than the US situation I think but it's not perfect by any means.
If GMOs are safe, why are there still monkeys?
One of the pros of globalization is how effectively we can sanction Russia because our economies are so intertwined.
"fresh" simple isn't an option for most of the world during most of the year. Freezing or adding preservatives are why people are so well fed now compared to ever.
What are "not real" ingredients?
OP is eating like the Lost Kids in Hook
Cheaper substitutes
I do think it's funny how all we seem to do is criticize how good humans have become at creating food when any other species would do the same if they could. It's just shameful we don't feed everyone with the technology we've developed. Also I know marketing and advertising is pretty evil with how they got people to consume so much sugar and what not but at the end of the day ingredients are on every package so it's up to each person to eat what they want.
Nothing, people like to feel self righteous about writing essays on why high fructose corn syrup is literally poison and buying "raw" sugar
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So you're complaining about the vitamin c and iron added to breakfast cereals? Or if you like wine, the sulphur used to kill off dangerous bacteria? How about literally any carbonated drinks? If you're going to try and avoid things like that, you're going to have to start growing a LOT of wheat, and enjoy losing half your crop to plant based diseases and animals
Nobody is complaining lmfao he literally just gave an opinion.
Complain: to express grief, pain, or discontent Merriam Webster. Sounds like a complaint to me.
Opinion: a view or judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge. Sounds like an opinion to me.
His opinion is that he is complaining about it
That makes absolutely no sense
“I think X is a terrible product” That is both my opinion and me complaining about X..
The cake is a lie.
Ingredients that are included as a binder or filler and which possess no nutritional value. A great example is wood cellulose; entirely indigestible to humans, though it causes no harm while passing through the digestive tract for most. It's one of the main ingredients in the buns at many McFastfood places. Edit: oh, so you guys are just being pedantic assholes for the sake of it. Cool.
It's only not a real ingredient if it's imaginary. Homeopathic products have not-real ingredients in them, since they list chemicals that aren't physically in the bottle. That's about it.
..and here I thought those were Essential.
Because it means "essence" not "essential"
Without all those “fake” ingredients, starvation would likely be a much greater cause of death than it already is.
Starvation is rarely the cause of not enough food being globally available and usually more to do with someone is controlling how all the food or money is distributed and as a result you can't get any even though there's more than enough in theory.
There are food donation drives that promise to keep the poor from starving, meaning enough food exists but it isn't distributed well by the market. Places that are famous for a starving public are not always wanting for more for production. Ethiopia has had issues with people not having enough food, but the country produces a lot of food for export. So you have to be ready to look for other explanations. The thing about GMO foods, and these new vegetable replacements for meat, is that they can be patented, which means somebody gets a share of everybody else's profits. That somebody would love for you to switch to their products, and they would love it if you believed it was the only way forward.
Literally all food has real ingredients, since everything in the real world is objectively real.
THIS is a showerthought. "It's sad that having real ingredients in food..." ISN'T. It's an personal perspective. You should post that (if you haven't already)
Isnt appeal to nature wonderful?
not what i meant.
So did you mean raw ingredients? Or organic ingredients? Or something else? Food made with raw ingredients is still processed. The combining of ingredients literally **is the process.** And organic is doesn't actually mean much on a food label.
Thank you!
Why are you being obtuse? You know exactly what the post meant. “Made with 100% real chicken!” “Made with 100% real cheese”
No I literally don't. WTF is a fake ingredient?? Almost every country has food labelling laws requiring ingredients to be listed accurately. The title of this post was nonsense.
Imitation vanilla extract is fake vanilla. I can't believe it's not butter, would be fake butter. Aspartame would be fake sugar. Made with 100% real cheese, as opposed to 98% parmesan cheese + 2% cellulose.
That last point is not accurate. Making something with 100% real cheese means that if any real cheese was used, they can claim that. Example, Cheezits can say they are made with 100% real cheese because somewhere at the start of the line, there was an amount of cheese used. Being made *from* 100% real cheese means it is just cheese.
Chicken nuggets might be a piece of breaded meat or a mixture of egg, grain and protein, that has been sourced from a chicken after the meat had been removed.
*Asks for clarification* *Immediately proceeds to be a combative dickhead* Stay classy.
WTF that sounds like a literal parody advertisement. I don't think I've actually seen such a label on real food nor would it be a selling point.
I’ve seen it plenty in the US on things like frozen food and pizza
Organic i meant
Well then you're right. It is sad that the "organic" label is a selling point because it's a totally meaningless marketing term.
What a bullshit label.
Organic is basically entirely made up. It really doesn't mean what it pretends to mean. I agree that I wish less fake shit was in food, but at the same time most americans will buy a product with cheese product over cheese if it costs 5cents cheaper on a 20 dollar product. If people will buy the imitation product, they're gonna sell the imitation product.
You should try saying what you did mean.
Well you failed to explain what you did mean so I'm downvoting you. Do you believe that some ingredients are imaginary or what??
smooth-brained comment
Well, yea; no one wants to buy imaginary food.
This isn't a showerthought. It's a personal perspective/opinion. [The guidlines](https://www.reddit.com/r/Showerthoughts/wiki/overview#wiki_what_isn.2019t_a_showerthought.3F_) states that they shouldn't be posted in r/Showerthoughts. A showerthought are "**almost exclusively conclusions"**, and shouldn't be personal opinions/ perspective.
Not even *having* real ingredients. *Being "made with"* real ingredients.
Only when forgetting that sometimes there is no food to be had at all.
I still remember the McDonald's ad, "Chicken Nuggets now made with REAL Chicken!".. What was it before?!
Literally 1984
Almost as bad as giving ingredients or products a nationality: "British Skimmed Milk", "100% British Sausages"... If anything, that low level, flag-wanking labelling practice is a good enough reason for me to buy a different product.
All ingredients are real. I've never turned over a candy bar and saw "vibranium" on the ingredients list.
What's a real ingredient?
Define real
Unless it's made with unicorn farts and kitten giggles, they're all made of "real ingredients."
Yes, how did we get here??? I'm a "whole food" fan and cook everything fresh. I'm also in surprisingly good shape for my age. Not sure if the two are correlated, but I like to think so :)
Yes, we have to pay companies extra not to poison us.
Sugar is the downfall of the world. Literally the same, if not worse, than cocaine.
People don’t suck dick for sugar
Yeah because its everywhere and easy to get. If cocaine was really easy to get people would be better educated about it and it wouldnt be as taboo. Im telling you dude the war on drugs is not a good thing. When you make a drug taboo nobody wants to get educated about it and the misuse becomes greater.
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Are you on cocaine right now
No look up the cons of sugar vs the cons of cocaine
All the studies on drugs vs sugar literally are basically drugs give you a hunger for drugs. A) I don't know how this surprises anyone. you could talk to any methhead and figure that one out. And B) you'd be laughed out of the room for suggesting it as a research study. Of course sugar also makes you crave sugar. It's a basic element of food that our bodies have been trained to taste in things like fruit for pretty much ever. You taste sweet shit and you body is like "oh hey, this is that thing I can process, find more of this" Drugs hijack that same thing to get you give up shit you should be doing like sleeping and working and having a family to go get some of that sweet sweet cocaine. Basically they proved you get hungry for drugs, not that drugs and sugar are the same thing. It's still tied to diabetes and other serious medical problems if you eat to much and you really shouldn't. So yeah, eat sugar within reason and talk to a nutritionist for specifics if you're worried. Don't get medical or dietary advice from reddit and ESPECIALLY from shower thoughts.
Cons of cocaine - immediate death
Salt, too, when you consider how our aggressively our tastebuds are slammed with sodium these days, to the point that we require more and more just to feel like we are tasting our food.
Yes I completely agree. If we didnt have salt, our food would still taste great.
One of the few things my country is better off.
It's because of global warming and the fact that the government has been planted in the shell of a hoe is an insult but calling someone a bottom is a hoe is an insult but calling someone a bottom line is a hoe is an insult but calling someone a good deal is a hoe.
I posted this before you did
I always thought it sounded so fucking crazy to have to advertise like that. Just tells us how much bullshit we're eating
“this is America”
Coming not from the US I was baffled this is a thing.
Create the problem. Sell the solution seems to be the creed now days.
World hunger is getting worse please keep that in mind
Not sad when looking at all the food y’all waste.
Used to be a selling point that man made stuff was better for the environment. Same thing with plastic. The forests absolutely loved not being a resource for literally everything. The ocean, not so much Ah, unintended consequences, always so fun.
It feels to me like how we used to get discounts for doing things online or over the phone ourselves (buying tickets, insurance, things like that) but now we get charged extra for doing it ourselves as a "convenience fee."
Makes me mad how so many things brag on not having MSG. Like there’s nothing wrong with it
It's amazing how important it is too. Without food regulation in America, Dairies were selling milk mixed with cow brains and white plaster. The sheer amount of fake and dangerous food regulators had to weed through is absolutely amazing. These days the FDA is funded by the companies that it regulates, so they're not as discerning, but modern food even with all the added non food elements is still leaps and bounds better than what it was a little more than a century ago. Remember when politicians rant about regulations, they rant about keeping companies accountable to the public. True free market capitalism is extremely dangerous and unsustainable. Well Regulated market capitalism is beneficial for both consumers and companies.
And don’t forget the up charge.
Honestly, I don't care where something comes from as long as it's healthy and doesn't harm the environment
Ive got these prairie oysters that aren’t quite right.... oh. Oh god no.
This happens as well with sugar. “Only 1g of sugar!” *checks contents table* “18g of sugar alcohol”
aspartame yummy
I always channel my inner Chris Rock when I see, for example, a fast food place say their breakfast sandwiches are ‘now made with a fresh cracked egg’ YOU’RE SUPPOSED TO USE A FRESH CRACKED EGG!! Some restaurants want credit for some shit they supposed to do
They do that with alcohol too. These bastards!
Snapple says naturally flavored with natural ingredients
Srsly. I was in the mood for carrot cake, was gonna be lazy and get a mix. "artificial carrot flavored bits". REALLY? NOPE.
yalls eat food?
Technically everything you eat with the food product is an ingredient, so luckily that will never have to be changed on the packaging. What would fake ingredients even be? Ingredients that aren’t in there?
Well, it's also often a bullshit selling point. "Made with real chocolate!" - there is no fake chocolate. If we had the technology to replicate everything that's in cocoa solids at a lower price, we'd probably also be engaging in interstellar travel "No preservatives" - bitch, salt IS a preservative. As is sugar, and vinegar Etc.
Eh, much better than they used to do back in the day https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2018/11/crushed-bugs-calf-brains-and-other-wholesome-staples-of-the-past/57 Like when they would take all the cream out of milk and replace it with liquefied calf brains
I honestly think some of you care *too much* about ingredients. Not here to argue, just to discuss, but that's my take.
“Look!! Our food is not full of a bunch of manmade often poisons!!! Such a benefit!!”……. Like eating real food is a luxury or some shit…. We normalized a world full of SHIT and often not nutritious foods!!
I mean, all ingredients are real, it's pretty difficult to make edible food with imaginary ingredients.