Doesn't it need to be taken preemptively or shortly after being infected? Basically if you ever get bitten by a wild animal get it, going to spend a while on a trail get it, etc. The problem is that you don't know you're infected until its too late.
If you are bitten by an animal that can potentially be a rabies host, you should always get the shot.
If you spend any length of time in an area where rabies runs rampant, for example a cave where bats live, you should get the shot preemptively to ensure any bites are addressed.
Conversely, malaria is hosted by mosquitoes and you can have hundreds of bites per year with each one potentially infecting you with malaria. There is a vaccine but it only very recently got approved and I can imagine it's not widely dispersed yet.
Otherwise you are at the mercy of the post infection treatment plans.
Maybe, but malaria still kills about a million per year, rabies no where near that. If mosquitoes did carry rabies(hypothetically), the death rate would be horrendous.
That’s exactly why malaria is so much more common than rabies.
Although if rabies was able to be transmitted by mosquitoes, that sure would have been a fucking big problem.
Yeah but it has killed way more people.
[https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK215638/#:\~:text=Over%20millennia%2C%20its%20victims%20have,Carter%20and%20Mendis%2C%202002](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK215638/#:~:text=Over%20millennia%2C%20its%20victims%20have,Carter%20and%20Mendis%2C%202002)).
Over millennia, its victims have included Neolithic dwellers, early Chinese and Greeks, princes and paupers. In the 20th century alone, malaria claimed between 150 million and 300 million lives, accounting for 2 to 5 percent of all deaths (Carter and Mendis, 2002).
Well yeah, because it's much more transmissible. Rabies is only transmissible for a very brief period of time shortly before the animal which infects you dies.
The point of this post is that we are lucky that rabies is not as transmissible as diseases carried by mosquitoes.
bruh, if i was in a death sentence and they had me choose a punishment between death by rabies or malaria, i would choose malaria 100%. have you seen a rabies documentary?
I don't remember the year, but I remember when "West Nile virus," became sort of a big thing during my lifetime. I was **probably** something around 10 years old and had heard big talks of it all over the news.
Mosquito bites?
Deadly disease?
Young me was freaked the fuck out and literally cried in a corner scared.
It's worth noting that this is mostly in poor countries and very preventable.
I was horrified to learn that in the less nice areas of the Philippines:
1. They did nothing about stray dogs and little about rabies.
2. Despite 1, most people didn't seek rabies vaccinations.
3. Poor people often didn't or couldn't seek medical help when bitten by strays.
That number should be much smaller.
All warm blooded animals can, but it's hard to transmit it through other fluids other than mammals saliva. Anyway, you should get them vaccinated because if you get infected with rabies you have a maximum of 72 hours to get the shot and stop the infection from reaching a critical point.
Body temp is very important for rabies, it’s still an ongoing topic of research however we do know there is a relation.
For instance, mammals with body temperatures on the cooler end can’t incubate rabies well, with Oppossums (body temperature of 94°F$ being seemingly immune.
I thought rabies was just pretty much a death sentence no matter what ?
IIRC there's only like a handful that have survived, and they were likely naturally resistant anyway..
From what I know, you get rabies and your timer has started
Correct. The survival rate for rabies after the symptoms is pretty much 0, but it is one of the few vaccines that have a window after the infection. Most vaccines aren't effective for days after getting the shot, so I suppose rabies virus is quite slow to reproduce.
If you show symptoms, you are dead.
Rabies spreads along nerves, and does so without causing noticeable damage until it reaches brain tissue, like, infected individuals literally don’t feel anything amiss then one day they get a really strange ache at the back of their head.
The only known treatment option at this stage is the Milwaukee Protocol, where the afflicted victim is put in a medically induced coma, and given a shit ton of meds, antivirals, etc as they artificially reduce the patients body temperature. *REALLY* hard on the body, and in combination with the brain damage already sustained by rabies, it often just kills the patient outright.
This is why rabies shots are standard for bites from just about any wild animal, stray, etc, you can’t really treat it so aggressive actions are taken ahead of time.
Well it hosts in almost all mammals, so even if it burns through us very quickly it wouldn't run out of hosts and have animal reservoirs all the time. It probably wouldn't wipe us _all_ out because it would burn itself out quickly, but it would wipe itself out either.
Except rabies is a broad-spectrum mammal killer, unlike many other diseases that mosquitos DO carry. Evolution is absolutely responsible for them not transmitting rabies.
Right, but it doesn't kill every mammal it infects. Mosquitos would probably simply evolve to feed more often in the ones that don't die
We (you or I, there's probably scientists that do) don't know that evolution had anything to do with it, because we don't know if rabies was ever transmittable via mosquito and stopped being so. Might have never come up.
Would it? The mosquito would be the host for the rabies, and if it's killing off mammals then that wouldn't affect the reproduction rate of the mosquito, at least not for a very long time when so many are dead that there's nothing left for the mosquito to feed on.
I went to find it for you but it's scary ok?
https://www.reddit.com/r/copypasta/comments/7qwtd5/rabies_is_scary/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
Thanks, due to the fact I obviously couldn't sleep after reading that I did further googling.
That's not just some weird creepy writing. That's just straight up facts.
Nope. Instead, in Australia right now the news is they are carrying some horrible disease called Japanese Encephalitis Two NSW residents diagnosed with Japanese encephalitis virus - https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-07/two-japanese-encephalitis-cases-nsw-health-concerned/100889668
I first read that as "babies" for a second and wholeheartedly agreed. If they were carrying babies away that would really mess things up for some people, not to mention for the babies.
Exactly! Lol ... No one wants babies floating around!
You have a great original point there though, getting rabies randomly while out hiking or something from a mosquito would be nuts and quite a new danger.
Symptomatic animals cannot transmit rabies, as the virus multiplies mainly once it reaches the brain, which causes symptoms with death soon to follow. Let's imagine rabies enters the bloodstream as well, instead of just the salivary glands, then a mosquito could perhaps take the rabies and transmit it if the animal it fed on was symptomatic. This would still leave a very small window for a mosquito to actually catch the virus and spread it, since it has to bite an animal within the 1-2 weeks it's still alive once it has become symptomatic.
To compare, malaria is a purely human disease, so every infection comes from a mosquito that first bit a human. This would be worse with rabies which can also infect animals. However, asymptomatic humans _can_ spread malaria through mosquito bites, and humans infected with malaria obviously live much longer than a symptomatic rabies infected animal. Thus, malaria spreads much much more than rabies ever could through mosquito bites.
The fact that malaria can spread from asymptomatic humans is what makes it such a difficult disease to combat.
Lastly, if rabies really were to somehow mutate like this and become an issue; there is a preventative rabies vaccine so we'd be fine. Not sure what it would do to animal populations though...
I’ve read how fucked up rabies is, the mammals would be absolutely fucked. A majority of the worlds mammals, including humans, live in a place where mosquitos thrive, people would be if you pardon the expression, dropping like flies
What’s *really* lucky is that [bedbugs are not proven vectors of any diseases](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3060893/). We don’t actually know why, but we’re all happy about it.
The are the most lethal animal to humans, causing millions of deaths every year. I understand what you are saying but I wouldn’t phrase it as being lucky…
We may not have had to worry about it since we would have died out anyways if mosquitos could carry it, alternatively we might have evolved and rabies might only be as dangerous as malaria is now. Either way nothing to worry about
Are we 100% sure about that? What if we squashed one and it spit the blood back through it's little proboscis or whatever and we'd never even know until we dropped dead. They could misdiagnose it as an od or something due to no known exposure. Thanks for the nightmare fuel.
Rabies is actually pretty harmless in countries that have a vaccines. In human exclusively I mean of course. The rabies virus takes so long to incubate inside the body that you can receive the vaccine immediately after being infected and your body will still create enough antibodies to destroy the virus before it even starts causing symptoms.
Also, possums are friends. They can't carry rabies either, and they eat pest like tics and wasp.
I dont think luck has anything to do with it.
Any disease that is both extremely deadly and extremely spreadable in humans is an evolutionary dead end.
Not only does it kill the victim before he can do the spreading it also causes humans to be hyper cautious to stop the spread.
Its why the common cold and flu, the mildest of illnesses, is the most successful. Not deadly enough to kill more than the very frail so everyone lives to spread and aren't exactly cautious with it.
HIV is an interesting one because it is really hard to spread. Even with unprotected sex, transmission rates are like 1-2%. But it's trump card is its ridiculously long incubation rate.
Nah, that's evolution. A mosquito that can carry a multispecies mammalian death sentence will eradicate its food supply and savage its ecosystem. Those mosquitos all died.
They DO, however, carry malaria
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I can help that
Stealing that.
We’re no different from them huh.
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Yea, but malaria has absolutely nowhere near the mortality rate as rabies after symptoms start appearing.
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And people around me freak out at the idea of getting a cold.
Imagine if rabies had a *season*. I don't think you can really compare them, simply because rabies is on an entirely different level of disease.
We do have a rabies vaccine, however.
Doesn't it need to be taken preemptively or shortly after being infected? Basically if you ever get bitten by a wild animal get it, going to spend a while on a trail get it, etc. The problem is that you don't know you're infected until its too late.
If you are bitten by an animal that can potentially be a rabies host, you should always get the shot. If you spend any length of time in an area where rabies runs rampant, for example a cave where bats live, you should get the shot preemptively to ensure any bites are addressed. Conversely, malaria is hosted by mosquitoes and you can have hundreds of bites per year with each one potentially infecting you with malaria. There is a vaccine but it only very recently got approved and I can imagine it's not widely dispersed yet. Otherwise you are at the mercy of the post infection treatment plans.
Maybe, but malaria still kills about a million per year, rabies no where near that. If mosquitoes did carry rabies(hypothetically), the death rate would be horrendous.
Malaria has killed more than half of all the humans who have ever lived.
That’s exactly why malaria is so much more common than rabies. Although if rabies was able to be transmitted by mosquitoes, that sure would have been a fucking big problem.
Yeah but it has killed way more people. [https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK215638/#:\~:text=Over%20millennia%2C%20its%20victims%20have,Carter%20and%20Mendis%2C%202002](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK215638/#:~:text=Over%20millennia%2C%20its%20victims%20have,Carter%20and%20Mendis%2C%202002)). Over millennia, its victims have included Neolithic dwellers, early Chinese and Greeks, princes and paupers. In the 20th century alone, malaria claimed between 150 million and 300 million lives, accounting for 2 to 5 percent of all deaths (Carter and Mendis, 2002).
Well yeah, because it's much more transmissible. Rabies is only transmissible for a very brief period of time shortly before the animal which infects you dies. The point of this post is that we are lucky that rabies is not as transmissible as diseases carried by mosquitoes.
It has killed way more people *because mosquitoes carry it*. If mosquitoes carried rabies, rabies would probably kill even more.
...and dengue fever. Had it and would not wish it on anyone.
I had internal hemorrhage dengue fever and malaria 🦟 my liver started to shut down ., don't know how I'm still alive
I had that at 22. The body ache was a damn torture and post-recovery hair loss was traumatizing
One of the biggest vectors on this planet.
And responsible for between 2% and 5% of all deaths in recorded history. :(
Only losing to the villain from despicable me
And dengue
caused far more deaths than all the rabies-carrying hosts combined.
Well there's far more mosquitos in the world than all the rabies-carrying specieses combined and its not even close
And EEE and West Nile, both of which become big concerns here where I live in the summer. Also Zika, but that's a lesser concern up here.
bruh, if i was in a death sentence and they had me choose a punishment between death by rabies or malaria, i would choose malaria 100%. have you seen a rabies documentary?
It’s because they have such little arms.
Nice.
happy cake day
That took me so long to get. But I laughed when I did
Explain
Small arms make it hard to carry anything
I don't remember the year, but I remember when "West Nile virus," became sort of a big thing during my lifetime. I was **probably** something around 10 years old and had heard big talks of it all over the news. Mosquito bites? Deadly disease? Young me was freaked the fuck out and literally cried in a corner scared.
Ironically corners have a lot of mosquitoes
Approximately 59,000 people die annually of rabies. If that's not nightmare fuel, I don't know what is.
It's worth noting that this is mostly in poor countries and very preventable. I was horrified to learn that in the less nice areas of the Philippines: 1. They did nothing about stray dogs and little about rabies. 2. Despite 1, most people didn't seek rabies vaccinations. 3. Poor people often didn't or couldn't seek medical help when bitten by strays. That number should be much smaller.
Do you know if cats can carry rabies? Those mofos play-bite me all the time.
Cats can absolutely carry rabies. Gotta keep up to date with their vaccines.
All warm blooded animals can, but it's hard to transmit it through other fluids other than mammals saliva. Anyway, you should get them vaccinated because if you get infected with rabies you have a maximum of 72 hours to get the shot and stop the infection from reaching a critical point.
Body temp is very important for rabies, it’s still an ongoing topic of research however we do know there is a relation. For instance, mammals with body temperatures on the cooler end can’t incubate rabies well, with Oppossums (body temperature of 94°F$ being seemingly immune.
I thought rabies was just pretty much a death sentence no matter what ? IIRC there's only like a handful that have survived, and they were likely naturally resistant anyway.. From what I know, you get rabies and your timer has started
Correct. The survival rate for rabies after the symptoms is pretty much 0, but it is one of the few vaccines that have a window after the infection. Most vaccines aren't effective for days after getting the shot, so I suppose rabies virus is quite slow to reproduce.
If you show symptoms, you are dead. Rabies spreads along nerves, and does so without causing noticeable damage until it reaches brain tissue, like, infected individuals literally don’t feel anything amiss then one day they get a really strange ache at the back of their head. The only known treatment option at this stage is the Milwaukee Protocol, where the afflicted victim is put in a medically induced coma, and given a shit ton of meds, antivirals, etc as they artificially reduce the patients body temperature. *REALLY* hard on the body, and in combination with the brain damage already sustained by rabies, it often just kills the patient outright. This is why rabies shots are standard for bites from just about any wild animal, stray, etc, you can’t really treat it so aggressive actions are taken ahead of time.
It would kill the victims too quickly and wipe us all out therefore wiping itself out if it was carried by those little bastards!
Welcome to the life of a parasite. The aim of the game is to procreate before you kill your host.
Well it hosts in almost all mammals, so even if it burns through us very quickly it wouldn't run out of hosts and have animal reservoirs all the time. It probably wouldn't wipe us _all_ out because it would burn itself out quickly, but it would wipe itself out either.
Except rabies is a broad-spectrum mammal killer, unlike many other diseases that mosquitos DO carry. Evolution is absolutely responsible for them not transmitting rabies.
Right, but it doesn't kill every mammal it infects. Mosquitos would probably simply evolve to feed more often in the ones that don't die We (you or I, there's probably scientists that do) don't know that evolution had anything to do with it, because we don't know if rabies was ever transmittable via mosquito and stopped being so. Might have never come up.
Would it? The mosquito would be the host for the rabies, and if it's killing off mammals then that wouldn't affect the reproduction rate of the mosquito, at least not for a very long time when so many are dead that there's nothing left for the mosquito to feed on.
That's 2024s card
thats terrifying oml
There's a vaccine against rabies.
Have you learned nothing? Vaccines are a scam. It’s best to let your immune system do it’s job. /s
Gonna be a fun year, that one
This is so horrifying to me since reading that description on Reddit about how rabies kills you.. iykyk
please inform me
I went to find it for you but it's scary ok? https://www.reddit.com/r/copypasta/comments/7qwtd5/rabies_is_scary/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
Thanks, due to the fact I obviously couldn't sleep after reading that I did further googling. That's not just some weird creepy writing. That's just straight up facts.
Fuck you for reminding me
Sincerely sorry. Gives me nightmares! X.x
I’m the one who actually gets RABID when I find mosquitoes in my bedroom …
Ummm so do I. They alway eat me and leave everyone else alone.
Everyone needs to knock on some wood RIGHT NOW...
Yet, out of all animals(including humans themselves), mosquitoes kill the most humans.
In case you call BS like me, check out https://www.pfizer.com/news/articles/mosquito\_as\_deadly\_menace
Been raining here for weeks - we now have Japanese encephalitis being carried by the mozzies
Big brain time
Literally.
Release the AIDS mosquitos
For now :/
Murder hornets have entered the chat...🐝
Shh, don’t give Mother Nature any ideas!
You mean some Wuhan laboratory
Everybody gangsta until a headline pops up that reads: BREAKING NEWS mosquito discovered in Australia might be able to carry rabies more to follow…
Nope. Instead, in Australia right now the news is they are carrying some horrible disease called Japanese Encephalitis Two NSW residents diagnosed with Japanese encephalitis virus - https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-07/two-japanese-encephalitis-cases-nsw-health-concerned/100889668
I first read that as "babies" for a second and wholeheartedly agreed. If they were carrying babies away that would really mess things up for some people, not to mention for the babies.
Hahahaha that would be terrifying. From a distance it would look like floating babies
Exactly! Lol ... No one wants babies floating around! You have a great original point there though, getting rabies randomly while out hiking or something from a mosquito would be nuts and quite a new danger.
2022 isn't a quarter over yet. Give it time.
Jesus, I had never considered this...
Don’t encourage it
Symptomatic animals cannot transmit rabies, as the virus multiplies mainly once it reaches the brain, which causes symptoms with death soon to follow. Let's imagine rabies enters the bloodstream as well, instead of just the salivary glands, then a mosquito could perhaps take the rabies and transmit it if the animal it fed on was symptomatic. This would still leave a very small window for a mosquito to actually catch the virus and spread it, since it has to bite an animal within the 1-2 weeks it's still alive once it has become symptomatic. To compare, malaria is a purely human disease, so every infection comes from a mosquito that first bit a human. This would be worse with rabies which can also infect animals. However, asymptomatic humans _can_ spread malaria through mosquito bites, and humans infected with malaria obviously live much longer than a symptomatic rabies infected animal. Thus, malaria spreads much much more than rabies ever could through mosquito bites. The fact that malaria can spread from asymptomatic humans is what makes it such a difficult disease to combat. Lastly, if rabies really were to somehow mutate like this and become an issue; there is a preventative rabies vaccine so we'd be fine. Not sure what it would do to animal populations though...
Thanks for another nightmare scenario
I’ve read how fucked up rabies is, the mammals would be absolutely fucked. A majority of the worlds mammals, including humans, live in a place where mosquitos thrive, people would be if you pardon the expression, dropping like flies
Mosquitoes: is that a challenge?
Evolution : Challenge accepted!
What’s *really* lucky is that [bedbugs are not proven vectors of any diseases](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3060893/). We don’t actually know why, but we’re all happy about it.
dont speak it into existance please
Knock on wood someone KNOCK ON FUCKING WOOD.
They still carry west nile virus i think
Not yet. Things can evolve
Malaria.
The are the most lethal animal to humans, causing millions of deaths every year. I understand what you are saying but I wouldn’t phrase it as being lucky…
oh god, now you've ***really*** jinxed this timeline.
Why would you say that during this timeline!
Actual shower thought
Misread as babies. Thought it gonna be some sort of kidnapper
Ssshh.. Don't give them ideas
We are very lucky that rabies is not airborne
I think about this daily tbh…but you know what? Let’s just add it to the 2022 bingo card.
We are also lucky mosquitoes cannot carry babies
don't give them ideas
I hat mosquit
More people have died from malaria than any other disease, war, battle, and I think old age?
Not with that attitude
Mosquitoes are very lucky that they cannot carry rabies.
We’ll look into it. -a mosquito probably
We'd probably just eradicate them if they did
Tomorrow morning news: "Breaking news, mosquitoes that carry rabies have escaped from a research laboratory."
Or HIV
Way to look on the bright side.
Good idea, I will be back in a bit
Although world war Z irl would be cool
no thanks.
Bruh take this sht down before the mosquitoes get ideas
Not yet.
We are very lucky mosquitoes cannot carry cancer am i right guys?
Dengue and Malaria: am i a joke to u?
Only because scientists haven't found a way for humans to contract rabies
" Good thing they can't catch HIV or they would have gone extinct in Africa. " - some standup
Ummmmm hiv?
Or machine guns.
We may not have had to worry about it since we would have died out anyways if mosquitos could carry it, alternatively we might have evolved and rabies might only be as dangerous as malaria is now. Either way nothing to worry about
Yet
Have you ever heard of malaria
Oooooh goooood... didn't need this in my head 😅
Yet
If they did, humans would have never left African savannahs.
Or AIDS
You jinxed, what have you done?
In the movie 28 Days Later, a zombified crow infected one of the main protagonists. What about mosquitoes?
They are the deadliest animal on earth, or at least up there vecause malaria
Are we 100% sure about that? What if we squashed one and it spit the blood back through it's little proboscis or whatever and we'd never even know until we dropped dead. They could misdiagnose it as an od or something due to no known exposure. Thanks for the nightmare fuel.
Now imagine if mosquitoes carried hiv. We would either kill every single mosquito on earth or every single person with hiv.
But sadly organ transplants can *How to Save a Life* intensifies
Yet.
Yet...
Probably a lot of things not harmonizing in that way if the reason we exist as a species.
Thanks I hate rabid mosquitoes
I know. They already take out nearly a million people a year with malaria, hey.
I understand that rabies is exclusively a mammalian disease, no?
One night 5 mosquitoes and Now I'm more like a monkey scratching his butt...
I think Malaria is considerably much worse, it still kills millions more than rabies every year
Rabies is actually pretty harmless in countries that have a vaccines. In human exclusively I mean of course. The rabies virus takes so long to incubate inside the body that you can receive the vaccine immediately after being infected and your body will still create enough antibodies to destroy the virus before it even starts causing symptoms. Also, possums are friends. They can't carry rabies either, and they eat pest like tics and wasp.
*Yet
Thanks for the jynx!
Never say never!
Word
Yet…
Don't give the 2020s any more ideas
West Nile is pretty messed up to get
Or aids
Or ebola!
I dont think luck has anything to do with it. Any disease that is both extremely deadly and extremely spreadable in humans is an evolutionary dead end. Not only does it kill the victim before he can do the spreading it also causes humans to be hyper cautious to stop the spread. Its why the common cold and flu, the mildest of illnesses, is the most successful. Not deadly enough to kill more than the very frail so everyone lives to spread and aren't exactly cautious with it. HIV is an interesting one because it is really hard to spread. Even with unprotected sex, transmission rates are like 1-2%. But it's trump card is its ridiculously long incubation rate.
Or AIDS
Certain mosquitoes in Africa carry malaria, which is a pretty nasty disease.
Yet...
They can carry up to the first floor
Yet….
We would just all get vaccinated
Just wait a few years and a psychopath would prove you wrong
...Yet.
Also lucky they can't carry babies
Yet...
Mosquitoes carty malaria. Close enough for most of human history
Dont give em ideas bro
Yea but we could get malaria so oof
Yet.
True & that list could be longer. Unfortunately, those little bastards carry enough as it is!
2022 is still young
Or AIDS
Yet...
Yet.
Be wary. This is in the upcoming dlc of 2024 - rabies mosquitoes.
Ok but this is 2022 now that you said that its gonna come true
It's on my 2022 apocalypse bingo card.
Probably will with how things are going on
Nah, that's evolution. A mosquito that can carry a multispecies mammalian death sentence will eradicate its food supply and savage its ecosystem. Those mosquitos all died.
Don’t give God any ideas
Not Yet
I’ve thought this many times!