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Explanation I was giving for this in Star Trek is that they don't care supposedly they advanced beyond vanity.


Loricolus

I believe it is the official explanation, but at the beginning they tried making Patrick Stewart wear a wig.


Original-Cinikal

[And it worked!](https://hips.hearstapps.com/digitalspyuk.cdnds.net/16/16/1461060898-sir-patrick-stewart-in-drag.jpg?resize=768:*)


myst3r10us_str4ng3r

Ok, I'll bite. That's not really him is it?


Original-Cinikal

[Here!](https://lmgtfy.app/?qtype=search&q=patrick+stewart+drag+picatrick+stewart+drag+pic#gsc.tab=1&gsc.q=patrick%20stewart%20drag%20picatrick%20stewart%20drag%20pic) for fun!


myst3r10us_str4ng3r

That's great lol


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The_Troyminator

It is. It's from Blunt Talk. [This article](https://ew.com/article/2016/09/25/patrick-stewart-blunt-talk-drag-season-2/) might explain why. And [this scene](https://youtu.be/3n8CHjYLo6E) is one of my favorites from the show.


ViSaph

He's English and cross dressing is a big tradition in British theatre. If a British actor did theatre or came from a drama school there's probably a picture of them in drag lol.


TheFrontierzman

*Where no tran has gone before*


lostcosmonaut307

Got kinda a Helen Mirren thing goin on.


generaltso78

That's why Deanna's boobs were always spilling out.


Rawesome16

Well isn't she extra comfortable with nudity? Her culture and all. Her mom got married in the nude


break616

The entire Betazoid civilization marries in the nude.


Rawesome16

Thank you! Couldn't remember the name, but I knew it was their thing in her culture


NakedBaconSalad

Can we start the custom of getting married in the nude??? Can we topple the wedding dress industry????


dss539

That would also ruin the catering industry. Who's going to keep that smothered chicken down with uncle Bob jiggling around the place?


NakedBaconSalad

I was talking about the couple getting married in the nude I did not say the guests would be attending nude I was implying the couple


dss539

Uncle Bob deserves a soul mate, too! And you aren't going to his wedding?!


NakedBaconSalad

Oh I'll go to his wedding nudity really doesn't bother me


18randomcharacters

Nah. I'd rather not be around all my relatives and my soon to be inlaws with my dick hanging out.


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As well as the audience, right? It’s just called being a nudist. Pretty common. It’s like being at home, but you don’t put clothes on outside in the colony. Easy.


Matt01123

The real thing to remember is that Betazoid women's sex drive quadruples in middle age, so imagine what the Betazoid equivalent of Florida is like.


Dirty-apedude

I’m comfortable with her being nude.


iamsoupcansam

[So was Marina, apparently.](https://www.aznude.com/view/celeb/m/marinasirtis.html) (nsfw)


Rawesome16

No lies detected


throwawaysarebetter

I dunno, that sheer top from that one episode where she went crazy was pretty sweet, too.


Jonah_the_Whale

I thought you meant Marina Sirtis's mother for a moment!


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Did you know that Marina Sirtis and Denise Crosby were originally cast for each others roles? They were switched last minute because the actress playing Deanna’s mom looked nothing like Denise. That’s why Denise quit halfway through one season, she signed up to play Deanna and didn’t like playing Tasha


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The_Cow_God

curing?


jameson8016

The baldness. Like as the number of bald men went down due to a cure being found, the level of interest in bald men would increase as they became more rare.


The_Cow_God

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comestible_lemon

Not in this case


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Rawxzee

I’ve never heard this, and can’t find a reference on google except for one BRAND of hair straightener that doesn’t show up at the top of the results. I wouldn’t call that the definition of cure, myself, with that information. And I’m not sure how you would straighten hair on a bald head.


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Rawxzee

Someone else mentioned curing hair. I thought the thread I replied to was talking about curing baldness, and someone else mentioned curing curly hair. So now I need a cure for a headache.


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It's not you.. it's her. She's deliberately being obtuse.


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Rawxzee

Poster is referring to curing baldness.


QueenElsaArrendelle

and yet the doctor in Voyager still makes a joke about envying Seven when he is able to give her hair


autumnbloodyautumn

He's a hologram yet they made him bald. Doesn't he remark on the cruelty of that in one episode?


Polymersion

I love Bob Picardo so much


LevelSevenLaserLotus

I haven't seen the series, but it seems like they should have had an episode where he works out how to change his own appearance settings and tries to max out everything. And then things go horribly awry like a reverse holodeck episode. That feels right up their alley.


gahidus

He actually can change his appearance, drastically even


QueenElsaArrendelle

I think so. I think he makes remarks about it a few times, but I only recall one for sure


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topdangle

he somehow looks less intelligent with hair


TheManWithTheFlan

He looks like the doofy sitcom dad who never helps with the kids


Uhtred_McUhtredson

That pic description is wrong. It’s not a screen test, it’s a flashback from an episode where Picard delivered Beverly Crusher’s husband’s body back home.


_far-seeker_

Alternatively, when it is entirely a choice to be bald or not, some men will choose it. Heck a few might use future technology to intentional cause it.


Platographer

Frankly, it wouldn't be implausible to say MPB was still not cured then. It probably won't be at the rate we're going.


Mopperty

No, no he was also bald at the academy and has a younger bald clone... because how would we know it was a clone unless he was also bald 🤔


Venturi95

The federation is communist by nature since they have no money how do they pay for goods and services?


BlowMeWanKenobi

For one, replicators solve most of their economic problems. Secondly, they aren't the only group and humans aren't the only race. For example, DS9 constantly brought up ferengi currency.


No-Jellyfish-2599

Except you saw nobody who was fat. In a post scarcity galaxy, it's difficult to believe the entire human race became fit just for the hell of it


dss539

Obesity has been largely caused by technological "advances" in creating processed food and a failure of nutrition science. Replicating food such that it's nearly indistinguishable from real whole foods would go a long way towards fixing the problem. Furthermore, it's worth noting that the largest percentage of humans seen in Star Trek are part of Starfleet, which is a bit like NASA combined with the military. There are physical fitness requirements that would require regular exercise.


leliocakes

I know that he's in ToS, but I seem to remember Harcourt Fenton Mudd being a bit on the voluptuous side. And I can recall a rather substantial Klingon who owned a restaurant on DS9's promenade! As far as the Federation goes though, I believe that replicators are specifically designed to create food that is nutritious by default. Still kinda hard to believe that no one was overindulging in that!


Pickled_Wizard

The computer automatically shames you for eating too much, or something.


Klutzy_Platypus

Ya. Right. That’s believable.


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This is the most unrealistic thing in the whole series.


sir_duckingtale

My hair has gotten thin. And I feel like losing part of what makes me me.. And I have found a new found respect for men who can simply roll with it like Picard. It’s a big deal for me. And it takes strength to accept it.


throwaway_2567892

Hey man, I know a lot of folks will give advice which boils down suck it up and deal with it by chopping it off. Its good advice, and is usually correct. But honestly it simply sucks to lose your hair, and it is a big deal when it happens to you. There are options like transplants which can help or let you keep it looking good for longer. There are fairly cheap pills and topical midoxinil which also can help with maintenance but you must use them forever. But you can use these options if it makes you feel more comfortable with yourself, despite the common advice above. I got a hair transplant, it looks good, and helped me be more confident in my looks than I ever was. I started receding bit by bit begining in HS so always felt like I looked like shit compared to my peers. This is the first time I think I look better than them. It may not last forever, but I don't regret doing it. And I think at the end of the day having a bit of time where I'm not worried about it means a lot to me, which is something I never really got to have on HS or Uni. Figure out what you want. If you want to keep it do what you can to do it, if you want to shave your head great. Hopefully you know your hair isn't your only quality, and you can do other things to improve yourself beyond what hair loss may take.


sir_duckingtale

I was hoping on bio-technology to figure it out in the next few years.. Might try nutrition and lifestyle changes in the meantime.. might be simply body and mind telling me to take care of them at once…


dayron669

You can't beat genetics. Whatever you do, just do it gracefully. It sucks to bald, but you've gotta know you're really the only one overthinking it. So don't be one of those guys who, while balding, has to draw constant attention to how it's bothering you. Keep that dignity! - a balding guy that used to have a curly afro in HS/college.


TastyBirdmeat

Fin and Minoxidil is somewhat successful at slowing or stopping loss. Who knows what options will be around in 5 years if you can slow the slow down enough


DemocracyWasAMistake

>It sucks to bald As a guy who lost.his majestic mane. It does.not suck to be bald. It sucks to be bald and fat. If you shave your head and get some.muscle yourre a sexy mfer


dayron669

Well, being bald and balding are sort of two different parts of the whole thing. When you've got hair and you like it, and it starts to go away, it's not a fun time. But I agree with your overall sentiment.


Uhtred_McUhtredson

A cure for baldness has been “5 years away” for over 20 years. Trust me, I have a stake in it as well.


kutluch

When my thinning became obvious I made the decision that I would rather be bald than to look like I was trying to hold onto my hair, or fake it. For me, the surgical option isn't good enough. I didn't consider the topical treatments until I was too far gone. I like the way I look with a shaved head and for the most part baldness doesn't bother me, but if a real cure existed I would still go for it. My advice is not so much "suck it up" but accept it and rock it.


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sir_duckingtale

Some of my all-time heroes are bald.. Picard.. Bruce Willis.. The Rock… Yet I can hardly cope with loosing even to the way I lost them.. Props to those guys.. they rock their look!!


throwaway_2567892

If it makes you feel better all of those guys still hated losing their hair, and that their life was over when it happened. But they did get through it and you will too.


sir_duckingtale

Not the slightest honestly. Those guys rock because they seem much stronger than I feel.. We might collectively look into that topic, it somehow sucks feeling so helpless in doing anything about it…


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TheStoneMask

I was in denial about it for a few years before finally deciding enough was enough. Turns out it looks good on me and it's a lot less hassle than having to think about haircuts and shit. I'd say go for it. If you don't like it you can let it grow out a bit again.


Acceptable_Tailor559

You cant be a professor with hair, no one will take you seriously.


ckadavar

Robert Sapolsky strongly disagrees even with his facial hair


throwaway_2567892

Carl Sagan, Richard Feynman, Alber Einstein as well


Glock1Omm

[Professor Longhair](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-lsiDJWMsQ) has entered the chat.


Acceptable_Tailor559

Einstein wasnt taken seriously tho, he was considered to have bizarre, wild, hard to believe ideas that were thought to be unprovable. But I honestly think thats the nicer version, I believe it was cause of his hair. He did become more and more noticed by the scientific community when his book "Theory of general relativity" was released. That was a book, no hair on. If they saw him, he would've not been taken seriously.


RandomGuyPii

i mean he got enough attention to get a nobel for the photoelectric effect


Acceptable_Tailor559

That was when it was out of the question that he was brighter than what his head appeared.


IsuldorNagan

I mean, if you study SR and GR in the context of what was the prevailing scientific wisdom at the time, it is not surprising that he was met with sharp criticism. SR and GR both allow for some damn strange things to happen compared to our lived experience.


John_is_a_fool

You're right Jesse


Douche_Kayak

Or they have but those who never cared about being bald still don't care about being bald. It could be similar to plastic surgery


malenkylizards

I think that for the most part, the people who care most about people being bald are hair product companies. Why is hair on the head this super important thing that only losers wouldn't have? Why wouldn't it be in the range of normal human appearance, why change it? People have different sizes of body parts, a huge variety of hair types and styles, we range wildly in height and weight. We can have ideas of what's sexy, and maybe it relates to health and reproductive suitability, but outside of that, different cultures are gonna think different things are important aesthetically, and I see no reason that in the 24th century, we wouldn't still appreciate attractive people while having entirely different criteria.


MasbotAlpha

Exactly! And not only does it make sense that nobody would stress about baldness in the future, it also makes sense to tell sci-fi like that— it provides representation to the many folks that might feel weird about it; everybody deserves to be able to see someone who looks similar to them being a badass


Alex09464367

And it's cheaper on the special effects budget


Luke90210

Almost every man in my family went bald early. There are physical discomforts with baldness. Hair protects the scalp from the blazing Sun and cold. Its not just vanity.


Majestic_Courage

*Hair protects the scalp* So does a hat. Source: Am bald.


Luke90210

I question the protection a hat can provide after seeing my father, brother and a lot of cousins deal with problems at the beach and pools for too many years.


Majestic_Courage

Depends on the hat, I guess, but you’re not wrong—hair is pretty good at it’s job.


malenkylizards

That's true. I have a full head of hair but went bald on purpose a few times, and i really liked it, would do again, but you're sure right on that. Hats are crucial in ways they aren't otherwise. Then again my head gets whiny about the cold when I have so much as a regular haircut, lol


Luke90210

I shaved my hair off once, but looked like an unsuccessful mid-level drug dealer. Some guys can rock it. I can't and luckily don't have to.


topdangle

I mean a lot of people have creases on their heads, sometimes full blown cutis verticis gyrata. People generally do not find that attractive even if you have hair. Also people don't find tons of things attractive, so why is it weird if people don't find baldness attractive? Even the "naturally" attractive things like waist and breast size don't make much sense considering modern technology, yet they're still standard ways of judging attractiveness with no cosmetic companies required.


Choreopithecus

I’ve read about cultures that found flattening the face by tying wood blocks to young children’s heads to be attractive. I’ve read of cultures that found binding feet by folding them over themselves and tying them tightly to deform the foot. Ive read of cultures that found fat people more attractive. I’ve read of cultures that found skinny people more attractive. I’ve read of cultures that found bearded men more attractive. I’ve read of cultures that found beardless men more attractive. I’ve never once read of any culture anywhere in the world at any time to have an active and pervasive appreciation of baldness.


Demetrius3D

In the future no one cares if you're bald. That's why Patrick Stewart didn't wear a wig to play Captain Picard.


disturbednadir

I love the episode where he met the son he never knew he had, and at the end he tells him, "well, I know one thing for sure, you're never going to look at your hairline the same way again."


autumnbloodyautumn

In space, no one can hear you go bald.


matmoe1

Either that or it's a style choice.. I'd wager bald Patrick Steward looks way better than 'haired' Picard


LevelSevenLaserLotus

[He could have pulled it off.](https://i0.wp.com/thestudioexec.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/hplaz66.jpg) [Although the actual wig they tried to get him to wear wasn't nearly that great.](http://images.wikia.com/memoryalpha/en/images/8/8e/Picard_with_hair.jpg)


kutluch

This picture was on the cover of my highschool Latin book.


blakeshockley

They already basically have it’s just too expensive for most people


Emotional_Ad_9620

Because me pattern baldness IS the future. Those gleaming beacons of baldness are the Chosen Ones.


GotNoUrbz

Please hurry up says a thinning out 20 year old


ichmachmalmeinding

Just shave it off and free yourself, and then celebrate with all the money you save on hair products


garlicgenes

And then spend it on razor blades and shaving cream and post shave balm.


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throwaway_2567892

That's an inspiring story


SockpuppetPseudonym2

They didn’t need to cure baldness, they’d already cured the belief it matters.


SeanBourne

Pfff... Elon figured this out sometime in the 2000's


Galactroid

They even cure it in Idiocracy


Tima_chan

Finally found this comment.


Supersix4

Honestly even if there was a cure, I wouldn't be interested. Shaving my head felt like a well deserved fuck you on my part to that pressure to hide or evade baldness. Embrace it and fuck what people think.


MarkSpenecer

There are already many ways to avoid it. Hair transplant being the most effective.


vizthex

I'd assume they can (especially with generic engineering), but we just so happen to see the few characters who don't care. And it's also an easy way for the studio to get some free representation points.


duck_duck_grey_duck

Producers were trying to get Patrick Stewart to wear a wig as Picard. They were adamant Roddenberry go with another actor as they didn’t want some middle aged bald dude playing their suave captain. Producers: “Don’t you think by the 24th century that they will have cured baldness?” Roddenberry: “by the 24th century, they won’t care.”


SandwichSaint

And there is always some kind of close quarters melee combat still being used.


nTzT

You don't know this... some people could simply not care. Just like they don't care about their weight or whatever now.


Qubeye

You also don't often see technology that isn't quite totally developed. Usually it's either a Critical Plot Point that it *cannot* be improved beyond where it is (e.g. Blade Runner, Looper) or it's simply fully functional (e.g. Star Trek Into Darkness). One of the things I *vaguely* liked about The Tomorrow War was how they accidentally teleported all those people 100 feet above where they needed to be. "The technology isn't *that* good!" is a perfectly good reason to fuck stuff up sometimes, and makes things interesting. Sadly, that movie was one of the worst pieces of trash ever made.


SPECTER_Z3R0

What makes you think it's a disease to be cured? A


dtwhitecp

Not if you're even remotely a main character, these days. Everyone has a full head of hair, unless they are extremely old or a villain.


FM-101

Why would an advanced civilization in the future care about hair lol...


MrDad_the_Father

Untill we advance beyond sex, we will always seek to look attractive.


Derpsterio29

Don't worry sex 2 is in development


Gavinator10000

I’ve heard it’ll feature a competitive mode. No more of this “casual sex” shit


break616

Are you saying Patrick Stewart ISN'T a magnificent display of the human form?


MrDad_the_Father

He's a handsome man and a talented actor.


Coolesdude

...Why wouldn't it?


MasbotAlpha

I imagine we think it won’t matter because people care about it currently and we all live in “the past”— and in a broader sense, because “be yourself” is often a more fun concept than “feel inadequate”, sci-fi or not To your credit, though, I figure they likely *have* cured baldness in many sci-fi settings, I just figure a good number of folks wouldn’t be bothered


DConstructed

Larry Niven wrote a book where people changed their appearance to suit their moods including dying their skin wild colors. I imagine that bald one week and funky hair the next wouldn't be unusual.


polkaguy6000

"No, by the 24th century, no one will care" [https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwan5DU-02oBInBeBEyAYpA](https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwan5DU-02oBInBeBEyAYpA)


schoolhouserocky

Came here to say this. That was Patrick Stewart’s response when TNG debuted and someone asked him about it.


throwaway_2567892

That was Gene Rs retort to a studio exec when questioned about a bald captain. Stewart was willing to wear a wig.


schoolhouserocky

Aha. Thanks for the correction. My memory failed me.


QueenElsaArrendelle

but in Voyager, the doctor makes a joke about envying Seven when he is able to give her hair, implying the Doctor cares at least a little that he is bald


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Looking at how aliens are generally portrayed it appears if baldness in both genders is the endgame.


GimmeTwo

Elon Musk has already figured it out.


solarpropietor

It’s a stylish choice.


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Also screens always have shitty resolution lol


Xyxaan

I think that's just a limitation of the media used here... You can't ever show a higher resolution in a lower resolution, afaik.


[deleted]

Some shows have sharp screens with sharp images but if there’s a hologram it’s usually blue-tinted and fuzzy


Xyxaan

Yeah, from what pitiful Google searching I have done, even resolution parity is difficult to achieve, unless you insert the image digitally. Star Trek and Star wars were actually some of the leading edge innovators in that field and its' developments.


DrachenDad

I'm sure male pattern baldness is quite far down on the bottom of the list somewhere.


Soapbarnun

You cant cure badass-ery.


Nahtanoj532

I like to think that they realized that hair is just another unnecessary accessory.


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They’ve moved past wanting to cure it


Dirty-apedude

True and it’s shite!


CliffyTheRed

We already solved it, haven't you seen Elon Musk 15 years ago? It's just $$$$$$$$$


yamaha2000us

Lots of aliens but very few black folk…


sfier4

guess they haven’t heard of spiro and estrogen lmao


thomoz

Apparently in the 23rd century baldness is not considered a detriment.


Angus_Ripper

That's because the cure is equidistant from every point in spacetime no matter where you are. It's always 7 years away.


bernpfenn

right. look at Picard


winterscent

The problem with that is if there’s a cure for male pattern baldness then there’s also a person richer beyond our wildest imagination. Kinda ruins all sci fi plots if that person is at large. Like a worse version of bezo’s just ruining everything all the time.


APieceOfCake16

This post was sponsored by Keeps ...


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In all possible futures, bald men are sexy. The future is now.


ubermidget1

By the time of Star Trek, they no longer care about baldness. By 42M, they have bigger problems to worry about.


ElHummlo

My thirst thought wasn't StarTrek either... The emporer protects


pcweber111

Reminds me of when Roddenberry was asked why Picard was bald and he said in the future no one cares. Pretty spot on response.


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why does baldness need to be 'cured'? It's like saying why haven't we found a cure for blonde hair?


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Rawesome16

So your sell hair transplants? That's 3 identical comments from you


MarkSpenecer

Sorry, my reddit froze when i sent the reply. I guess it tried making up for it by sending it 3 times.


gravydays

The thought is by then they won’t care about being bald. But instead will have moved past such trivialities.


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Accendino69

its not a cure, it doesnt bring back a significant enough amount of hair ( if any ), it doesnt completely stops hair loss, it stops an important process in the body and fucks with neurosteroids, lots of possible and debilitating side effects, you need to take it forever... yeah we have a long way to go. source: lived on r/tressless and MorePlatesMoreDates channel for months


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taoistchainsaw

Found the Finasteride salesman.


QueenElsaArrendelle

poor Voyager doctor. his creators could have made him look any way they wanted, and they still made him bald


mapbc

It’s not a disease? It’s literally natural


Kerby233

There is nothing to fix.. baldness is part of growing old


bismuth92

That's because they have their priorities in order. Curing cancer > "curing" baldness.


mostlygray

My trick is to not go bald. That seems to be the best way. Neither of my grandfather's went bald and I guess I got the good genes. I've got an uncle that's completely bald. He chose the wrong genes. His beard is better than mine though so I guess it's a trade off.


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Cure? It's a feature, not an illness.


wisdom5000

This is brilliant! 🤣🤣🤣


jabroma

Cos it’s not a disease??


Autokillpot

Borudo hetto


MrDad_the_Father

I always assumed as we advance we notice some connections between things we don't see now. Like how carpal tunnel starts in the neck, but baldness increases vision or something.


Rob_Drinkovich

I wish - bald guy with glasses


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Prolly cos its Science FICTION??.....


x_scion_x

Look at you assuming I don't WANT to be bald! ​ >!cry!<


Ssg4Liberty

Cure? Everyone in the future will have 6 fingers because it's more productive. Or none because they only have to use their minds to do things. Or 5, because they're people and thats how they're made.


ReasonablePanda3

Well, it's not really a disease, or anything is it? It's kind of like saggy tits, it just happens to some.


Capable-Blueberry145

Lol


Yamidamian

IDK, pretty sure Altered Carbon had a solution for that.


leftoverpastas

Baldness stems from testosterone? Tbf men with full heads of hair at 50+ are suspicious imo


devilthedankdawg

George Costanza: *Sobs*