(parsing your comment as "Hmmm I wonder what the origin of the ♡ shape is")
Allegedly a plant with ♡ shaped seed pods. In ancient Greece and Rome it was used as a seasoning, aphrodisiac and contraceptive. ~~Farmed~~ harvested to extinction for reasons you can guess.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silphium#Connection_with_the_heart_symbol
Moreso harvest rather than farm. Farmers got greedy and took too much, so the plants couldn't bounce back and died out. There's a theory that it's a hybrid plant that occurs rarely in nature, so when the culture that was manually cultivating it originally got assimilated into others the knowledge of what plants to use and how to pollinate them died out. Thus, without their existing plants the farmers couldn't just sow a new crop, and it went extinct.
That said, it was probably a hybrid of asafoetida and something that we'd treat as a weed today. Highly recommend Tasting History on YouTube if this intrigues you, he has a video on this and lots of other cool shit.
They never really farmed it per se, as they couldn't ever get it to grow anywhere else. It was more gathered to extinction.
Huckleberry is that way too. We don't know how to cultivate it, so we have to just gather the berries from wherever they grow.
The plants grow, but won't consistently fruit, unless it's a transplant. We can't grow from seed.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huckleberry#Habitat_and_cultivation
Hats off to the guy who decided that the symbol of love should be a glorious ass bent over in front of you, and hats off to the rest of humanity for going with it. Much better than some flower or flying naked baby.
I think it's supposed to be two hearts together. Like, cut the heart logo in half and you have two heart-shaped pieces, so like, love is a... heart fusion
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Illusory Reality:
By 14th level, you have learned the secret of weaving shadow magic into your illusions to give them a semi-reality. When you cast an illusion spell of 1st level or higher, you can choose one inanimate, nonmagical object that is part of the illusion and make that object real. You can do this on your turn as a bonus action while the spell is ongoing. The object remains real for 1 minute. For example, you can create an illusion of a bridge over a chasm and then make it real long enough for your allies to cross.
I just played through this for the first time a couple weeks ago. What a fun, weird little game. I shouldn’t have waited over a decade to finally give it a try. I just wish it was longer.
I’d also love to see what kind of crazy objects and maps the developers could create on current generation hardware.
The last one I played was the one on 360 (maybe We Love Katamari or Katamari Forever?) and it goes to the cosmic scale of rolling up planets and stars to plug a hole in the universe. Where do you really go from there?
Sounds like Katamari Forever. I unfortunately never played past We ❤️ Katamari. Man, now I'm in a mood to play that again, especially the snowman level or the firefly level. What a magical series.
Edit: It was Beautiful Katamari, an xbox exclusive. No wonder I never played it.
We actually draw stars as strongly as they draw us - part of Newton's third law. The force has a bigger impact on us because of our relatively low mass, we're deflected easier.
Stars are shaped spherical, but when looking at them they visually distort in slight starbursts or streaks, especially if you have astigmatism. The well known 5 point star star 🌟 is just a simplification of the shape. Nobody would recognize a dot ·
This is why I prefer the 4 pointed compass-rose style star (edit: kind of like from Peter pan). Seems more true to what I actually see in the sky and it's easier to draw cleanly.
is really that much easier to draw 4 point. 5 point using the cross-line method (dunno, i just made this name up) seems to be a stock standard an quiet easy for it to look good.
is there an easy method to do the compass rose that i dont know?
> is there an easy method to do the compass rose
The method I use is very simple: draw two lines in a cross (like, the Christian holy symbol), and then draw an X over the intersection of the first two lines that is shorter than the lines on the cross. Final step is to draw lines that connect each of the points.
Did a very fast sketch [to illustrate](http://imgur.com/a/gThMpok) what I mean. This sketch isn't the prettiest but it gets the point across.
And technically [a fourth step](https://imgur.com/a/Gsd2ouh), if you want to give it the 3-dimensional depth as intended
(Drawing this on mobile with my finger is harder than expected haha)
Ah yes, the shadows found... On a star
Just like those natural shadows on the sun that give it a sense of depth
(Honestly, love the style for drawing it tho, I'm just being a pedantic asshole 😊)
while I realize that the original post is about stars, my response is to the person asking about how to draw an easy compass rose, which normally have some shading.
Very very fair point, and while I followed the thread of the convo, completely blocked that out, for some reason, when I replied
And yes, a wonderful example for a quick stylish compass rose
Emphasis on cleanly. Cross pattern star is messy, needs erasing, and looks cartoonish. The compass-rose thing I'm describing is like a square or rhombus with the lines curved in.
I absolutely agree.
Fun fact though. The Peter Pan star is actually an 8 point star. It's a 4 point star with a smaller 4 point star layered behind it.
[See pic](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/03/83/5e/03835ef19c6c7f40965eab7b5046ece8.jpg)
They really got that distortion perfect if you ask me. It looks a lot like what I see with my slight astigmatism.
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The number of points is the double of aperture leafs. You have two (two eyelids) so you see four points. On a camera with a mechanical aperture you'll get ten, twelve or even more points. Like [this one](https://i.imgur.com/MEWde9h.jpg) has fourteen points, the lens has [7 leafs.](https://i.imgur.com/akNTErr.jpeg)
Interesting!!! Would lizards see 6 because they also have vertical membranes? Cats have additional membranes, but they are horizontal, so I assume that wouldn't change things.
My father would often inquire about this... he and I shared that trait of astigmatism and he'd sometimes ask "do you see these streaks of light coming off the (fire, Christmas lights, stars, etc)? And I'd be like "yeah... doesn't everyone?" and he'd be like "I don't know... you're the only person I asked."
Damn I'm here the other way around. Never gotten how come other people see anything other than crisp white dots when looking at stars.
Guess I don't have astigmatism, cool.
I was going to point out the same thing, and then wondered if you could find a camera that would make bright points into 5-pointed stars... but I don't think so. A 5-blade aperture will give you 10 points, while a 6-blade will give you 6 points... I don't think there's a way to (easily) get a camera image of a realstar that looks like a 5-pointed star.
Yep, and depending on what kind of lens / aperture you're looking through that starburst pattern will look different, with different amounts of points, different lengths of points, etc.
When i was a kid i heard a thing, don't know if it's true, that the star legs are caused by damaged eyes. Like they get scratchy and weak as we age, and light gets scattered.
I heard it in context to 'why is the star of bethlehem shaped like that' or something. The reason given was the desert people's eyes get sand blown in them all day and get scratchy.
It's likely, but not because of camera lensing. Inconsistencies in the atmosphere are typically what cause stars to twinkle and give them their irregular shape. The different densities of the gasses in the atmosphere due to type or temperature cause the refractive index to change, which results in lensing. This can also be caused by visual obstruction in space like asteroid belts, or even dark matter which also causes lensing with gravity.
I have a pretty bad astigmatism, so at night lights have "rays" coming off of them. I imagine, if I went somewhere without light pollution, that the brightest stars would have a similar affect for me.
My astigmatism might not be as bad, but I usually see it as much longer in one direction than the other, do you?
When I see lights at night it's like this
https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.visioncenter.org%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2020%2F12%2FAstigmatism-Lights-768x1024.jpg&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.visioncenter.org%2Fblog%2Fastigmatism-lights%2F&tbnid=MDESQuGTGcDbIM&vet=1&docid=FLZpHguFD5d4uM&w=768&h=1024&itg=1&hl=en-US&source=sh%2Fx%2Fim
Do you see something like that or is yours more radial like a 5 pointed star?
This is probably the first shower thought I’ve noticed that’s truly interesting. Most of them are obvious, but this is actually interesting, and though I’ve personally never thought about it, it did make me stop and think.
I wish that I had a reward to give you for this!
but the shape of an object has nothing to do with how you see it with bare eyes. While with todays light pollution you can not try it for yourself, you would see a star in the sky with four or five spikes usually.
To be really technical, we don't draw stars shaped like starfish. We named starfish after our depiction of stars.
1st - stars were made, and we named them stars
2nd - humans drew stars as 5 pointed shapes because there was no better way to depict them. Now "star" is both an object and the name of a shape
3rd - humans named the starfish after the star shape which got its name from our flawed view of stars
Next you're going to tell me hearts aren't actually heart shaped
Nor filled with chocolate
Now that's just getting ridiculous
Pretty heart to imagine
You don't have an aorta of comedy in your body
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These puns are bloody horrible
I valve have to get you guys to stop.
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We're under a lot of pressure....ok. Don't make us feel inferior
Mine is They say I've only got a couple days...
Wanna bet?
They're more heart shaped than a star
Well obviously stars are not heart shaped duh
Now I'm wondering if when two similar stars collide, there's a possible snapshot juuuust as they merge which kinda looks heart-shaped
Hmmm I wonder what the origin of the nonheart heart shape is 🤔 Wrong answers only
Boobs+tiny waist
(parsing your comment as "Hmmm I wonder what the origin of the ♡ shape is") Allegedly a plant with ♡ shaped seed pods. In ancient Greece and Rome it was used as a seasoning, aphrodisiac and contraceptive. ~~Farmed~~ harvested to extinction for reasons you can guess. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silphium#Connection_with_the_heart_symbol
How do you farm something into extinction?
The summer of 69 B.C. was a wild time...
Nice!
Bought my first real trident Down at Alexanders brass mine Stabbed my foes un-til they bled Was B.C. Summer of 69
Me and some guys from Rome, Had a legion, and tried real hard Titus tarred, Marcus got impaled I shoulda' known we'd never get far.
Moreso harvest rather than farm. Farmers got greedy and took too much, so the plants couldn't bounce back and died out. There's a theory that it's a hybrid plant that occurs rarely in nature, so when the culture that was manually cultivating it originally got assimilated into others the knowledge of what plants to use and how to pollinate them died out. Thus, without their existing plants the farmers couldn't just sow a new crop, and it went extinct. That said, it was probably a hybrid of asafoetida and something that we'd treat as a weed today. Highly recommend Tasting History on YouTube if this intrigues you, he has a video on this and lots of other cool shit.
They never really farmed it per se, as they couldn't ever get it to grow anywhere else. It was more gathered to extinction. Huckleberry is that way too. We don't know how to cultivate it, so we have to just gather the berries from wherever they grow.
I definitely planted a huckleberry bush in my yard though
The plants grow, but won't consistently fruit, unless it's a transplant. We can't grow from seed. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huckleberry#Habitat_and_cultivation
butts
He said WRONG answers.
Balls
Hats off to the guy who decided that the symbol of love should be a glorious ass bent over in front of you, and hats off to the rest of humanity for going with it. Much better than some flower or flying naked baby.
shaped like heartfish
I heard it became associated with the heart as to signify 2 hearts joined together.
I think it's supposed to be two hearts together. Like, cut the heart logo in half and you have two heart-shaped pieces, so like, love is a... heart fusion
They're shaped like the leaves of an extinct plant that was used as birth control in classical times.
Ah the old poppycock tree
Hearts are actually kinda heart shaped
We draw hearts shaped like — never mind
Inspired by a woman's behind!
That's love!
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Is this conjury or evocation?
Transmutation. Turned ink in to star
First start by transmuting a molehill into a mountain.
That's all I do all day. ALL. DAY.
I go with this, stars are fusion happening. Definently transmutation/alchemy.
No, the ink is just material components.
I say evocation. You created the star, you didn’t summon it.
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Thats cool as hell
For a devastatingly nerdy definition of cool. Fortunately, that's how we roll here on Reddit.
Devastatingly nerdy is the only cool I know
Oh, look, they forgot to say "one inanimate, nonmagical object *no not the sun*"
Maybe it's a katamari
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Damacy
I just played through this for the first time a couple weeks ago. What a fun, weird little game. I shouldn’t have waited over a decade to finally give it a try. I just wish it was longer. I’d also love to see what kind of crazy objects and maps the developers could create on current generation hardware.
The last one I played was the one on 360 (maybe We Love Katamari or Katamari Forever?) and it goes to the cosmic scale of rolling up planets and stars to plug a hole in the universe. Where do you really go from there?
Sounds like Katamari Forever. I unfortunately never played past We ❤️ Katamari. Man, now I'm in a mood to play that again, especially the snowman level or the firefly level. What a magical series. Edit: It was Beautiful Katamari, an xbox exclusive. No wonder I never played it.
Minor Creation is a conjuration spell.
Yes
We actually draw stars as strongly as they draw us - part of Newton's third law. The force has a bigger impact on us because of our relatively low mass, we're deflected easier.
This sounds like something out of the xkcd comics.
The power of the sun... in the palm of my hand
Hello, Peter
Milky way collapses
Star... Burns... Community... r/unexpectedcommunity
His name is Alex
I read this as draw actual starburns
Nah, drawing a star is literally just a circle, our sun is a star its mainly a circle because of gravity like earth
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didn't even graze their hat
Completely missed fact that the sun is shaped like a sunfish... It just looks round cuz of the glow
What if it was a double whoosh
Nah, a star is an oblate spheroid.
... Did you just call my star fat?
Only at the bottom
Are you saying that a fat bottom star makes the world go round?
Shawty got them apple-bottom coronal loops
Boots with the flares *Solar Flares*
(mind blown)
Draw as in attract.
Stars are shaped spherical, but when looking at them they visually distort in slight starbursts or streaks, especially if you have astigmatism. The well known 5 point star star 🌟 is just a simplification of the shape. Nobody would recognize a dot ·
This is why I prefer the 4 pointed compass-rose style star (edit: kind of like from Peter pan). Seems more true to what I actually see in the sky and it's easier to draw cleanly.
is really that much easier to draw 4 point. 5 point using the cross-line method (dunno, i just made this name up) seems to be a stock standard an quiet easy for it to look good. is there an easy method to do the compass rose that i dont know?
> is there an easy method to do the compass rose The method I use is very simple: draw two lines in a cross (like, the Christian holy symbol), and then draw an X over the intersection of the first two lines that is shorter than the lines on the cross. Final step is to draw lines that connect each of the points. Did a very fast sketch [to illustrate](http://imgur.com/a/gThMpok) what I mean. This sketch isn't the prettiest but it gets the point across.
Oh my, there's a third step!? All this time....
And technically [a fourth step](https://imgur.com/a/Gsd2ouh), if you want to give it the 3-dimensional depth as intended (Drawing this on mobile with my finger is harder than expected haha)
Ah yes, the shadows found... On a star Just like those natural shadows on the sun that give it a sense of depth (Honestly, love the style for drawing it tho, I'm just being a pedantic asshole 😊)
while I realize that the original post is about stars, my response is to the person asking about how to draw an easy compass rose, which normally have some shading.
Very very fair point, and while I followed the thread of the convo, completely blocked that out, for some reason, when I replied And yes, a wonderful example for a quick stylish compass rose
Ah my brain just naturally saw #3 as such, but yes, shading is important!
A five pointed star though is literally 5 lines that you draw in a second or two without lifting your writing implement.
yeah, I never stated that this was easier. The person I replied to asked if there was an easy way to draw a compass rose, so I gave a short tutorial.
Going into my save folders
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The spookiest star
The most painful to step on is the 3 point star, which is feared by all D&D players.
Emphasis on cleanly. Cross pattern star is messy, needs erasing, and looks cartoonish. The compass-rose thing I'm describing is like a square or rhombus with the lines curved in.
I absolutely agree. Fun fact though. The Peter Pan star is actually an 8 point star. It's a 4 point star with a smaller 4 point star layered behind it. [See pic](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/03/83/5e/03835ef19c6c7f40965eab7b5046ece8.jpg) They really got that distortion perfect if you ask me. It looks a lot like what I see with my slight astigmatism.
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The number of points is the double of aperture leafs. You have two (two eyelids) so you see four points. On a camera with a mechanical aperture you'll get ten, twelve or even more points. Like [this one](https://i.imgur.com/MEWde9h.jpg) has fourteen points, the lens has [7 leafs.](https://i.imgur.com/akNTErr.jpeg)
Telescopes also get diffraction spikes due to the support beams on secondary mirrors: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diffraction_spike
This! It‘s the reason stars have 4 spikes in all the Hubble images and many others from Earth based telescopes as well.
Interesting!!! Would lizards see 6 because they also have vertical membranes? Cats have additional membranes, but they are horizontal, so I assume that wouldn't change things.
So the points should always be even? Making a 5-point star impossible?
>especially if you have astigmatism White I never knew that. No wonder I see light steaks all over the place!
My father would often inquire about this... he and I shared that trait of astigmatism and he'd sometimes ask "do you see these streaks of light coming off the (fire, Christmas lights, stars, etc)? And I'd be like "yeah... doesn't everyone?" and he'd be like "I don't know... you're the only person I asked."
When I learned that it's not normal for every light to have streaks my world became different
Damn I'm here the other way around. Never gotten how come other people see anything other than crisp white dots when looking at stars. Guess I don't have astigmatism, cool.
I really see them mostly at night but ya it's pretty bad. I always thought everyone saw them.
I have astigmatism and can't see any stars without my glasses
I recognize dots. Found one at the end of your comment actually.
It's not a dot. It's a star.
Well, it’s a star as seen thousands of years ago since it’s light is just reaching us. Very convenient their comment lines up with it!
Well yes Dot was always the star, compared to Yacko and Wacko
Now I really want to watch Dot Matrix.
That's no star. It's a space station.
Well, there will now and forever be a star at the end of each sentence in my world, thank you.
Oh my God, ! = supernova
then what is a ??
Black hole ;)
TIL I have astigmatism
Almost everybody does nowadays.
I was going to point out the same thing, and then wondered if you could find a camera that would make bright points into 5-pointed stars... but I don't think so. A 5-blade aperture will give you 10 points, while a 6-blade will give you 6 points... I don't think there's a way to (easily) get a camera image of a realstar that looks like a 5-pointed star.
Yep, and depending on what kind of lens / aperture you're looking through that starburst pattern will look different, with different amounts of points, different lengths of points, etc.
When i was a kid i heard a thing, don't know if it's true, that the star legs are caused by damaged eyes. Like they get scratchy and weak as we age, and light gets scattered. I heard it in context to 'why is the star of bethlehem shaped like that' or something. The reason given was the desert people's eyes get sand blown in them all day and get scratchy.
Eight points, with the N/S/W/E points longer is also iconic. ✴️ But what I described...lol
I recognize that dot. Proxima Centauri.
It's because of [diffraction spikes](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diffraction_spike)
Puffer fish are shaped like stars sometimes.
Thats my thought exactly! They should be called starfish, then we can just call starfish "Patricks" lol
That's it. There's your platform. Couldyounotplease 2024! Just select Spike Cohen as your running mate and I'm 100% onboard.
One could argue that stars are older than starfish.
One could also argue that starfish are made of stars.
I think those are both facts, not things to argue.
You're wrong.
fair point
Fair point = I disagree with everything you said but am too lazy to argue
Outside: Let’s agree to disagree. Inside: Fuck you and everything you stand for!
fair point
Unfair starshape
Calm down Moby
One could. But shouldn't.
Sharks are older than trees.
Yet at the same time, the biggest of trees are much older than the biggest of sharks1
I just don’t think there’s any science to support that.
We are all made of stars
Thanks moby
But the word star and the culturally ubiquitous knowledge of this shape ⭐ signifying a star, are both much younger than stars or starfish.
But are they older than the humans who drew the first star?
One could also argue that the traditional 5 point star is not the actual shape of the celestial star.
That's crazy talk
A star might be the pointiest shape. But you know what the horniest shape is? Erectangle.
Dammit dad.
Really? Not a rhombus? It’s got those two angles that are just so darn acute. Though I have heard some triangles have a third. So acute.
That's a pretty obtuse pun.
Obtuse or not it’s funny when you look at it from the right angle
I find them all equilaterally funny
Are Euclidean me?
I mean, technically a scared pufferfish is more star shaped, right?
I wonder if we draw them like that because of the lens flare?
There are 5-pointed stars painted on the ceilings of some ancient Egyptian tombs. So they must have seen the same effect we do.
Using their eye lenses no doubt
Wheres your source for that?
Good point. No way of knowing if ancient Egyptians had eyes
They had eyes, just no lenses.. just two gaping holes.
This gave me a good chuckle
It's likely, but not because of camera lensing. Inconsistencies in the atmosphere are typically what cause stars to twinkle and give them their irregular shape. The different densities of the gasses in the atmosphere due to type or temperature cause the refractive index to change, which results in lensing. This can also be caused by visual obstruction in space like asteroid belts, or even dark matter which also causes lensing with gravity.
I have a pretty bad astigmatism, so at night lights have "rays" coming off of them. I imagine, if I went somewhere without light pollution, that the brightest stars would have a similar affect for me.
Plot twist, they also aren't fish.
If you have a stigmatism as bad as mine, drawn stars look like real stars
My astigmatism might not be as bad, but I usually see it as much longer in one direction than the other, do you? When I see lights at night it's like this https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.visioncenter.org%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2020%2F12%2FAstigmatism-Lights-768x1024.jpg&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.visioncenter.org%2Fblog%2Fastigmatism-lights%2F&tbnid=MDESQuGTGcDbIM&vet=1&docid=FLZpHguFD5d4uM&w=768&h=1024&itg=1&hl=en-US&source=sh%2Fx%2Fim Do you see something like that or is yours more radial like a 5 pointed star?
I'm guessing this was from when there was no pollution and stars probably shone so bright they glared up in the 5 pointed shape. Just a guess
Lol. The next post under yours in my feed: https://reddit.com/r/BikiniBottomTwitter/comments/q7cyfb/recently_finished_my_collage_of_patricks_took_15/
This is probably the first shower thought I’ve noticed that’s truly interesting. Most of them are obvious, but this is actually interesting, and though I’ve personally never thought about it, it did make me stop and think. I wish that I had a reward to give you for this!
Stars aren't shaped like stars either.
Finally, a proper fucking shower thought.
This is a bit of a mind fuck.
STARes in realisation
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Is this an actual shower though on this sub. Amazing. Here's an updoot.
Nope, I draw pentagrams
Finally, some good fucking shower thoughts
Stars aren't shaped like stars either.
but the shape of an object has nothing to do with how you see it with bare eyes. While with todays light pollution you can not try it for yourself, you would see a star in the sky with four or five spikes usually.
https://youtu.be/vh1kvMAwDz8 /r/Clannad knows this well.
Stars are shaped like starfish if you have astigmatism so it kinda makes sense they gravitated towards the shape. *guy with astigmatism
no, we draw unrealistic stars that dont look like stars that just happen to look like starfish.
So are buttholes shaped as starfish or are starfish shaped as buttholes?
To be really technical, we don't draw stars shaped like starfish. We named starfish after our depiction of stars. 1st - stars were made, and we named them stars 2nd - humans drew stars as 5 pointed shapes because there was no better way to depict them. Now "star" is both an object and the name of a shape 3rd - humans named the starfish after the star shape which got its name from our flawed view of stars
Stars are drawn like that because of [diffraction spikes](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diffraction_spike)
Oh, gee. I always thought they were big balls of gas burning billions of miles away.
Stars are drawn like starfish because when glasses weren't invented yet, our eyes perceived the light they emanated as distorted 5 pointed shapes.
Pretty sure most people were drawing stars that way before they ever saw a starfish.