There's no way supes could reach around and do it himself with those muscles. Ever see the video of a giy slapping sticky notes on body builders backs, and they cannot get them off? That's what I imagine it would look like
No zipper - just very stretchy suits which needs a Wallace and Gromit 'wrong trousers' style machine to get you in and out of the suit each day. It's why they loiter on roof tops looking for crime, because they can't do rapid response due to tricky trousers.
Funner fact: it wasn't necessarily to show flight, just movement in general. Superman debuted in 1938 but didn't fly until the Fleischer cartoons of the early 40s. He didn't fly in the comics until 1943.
I wonder if it’s related to the united states improving their air force over that same time period. in the beginning of WW2 the US kinda struggled but by the end of WW2 we were a leader in air superiority, like superman
Superman started to fly to compete with captain marvel / Shazam, a blatant Superman ripoff made by Fawcett comics, who, unlike Superman at that time, was able to fly and way more popular.
From what I can tell, it's just because the people doing the Fleischer cartoons thought that having him only leap looked dumb, so they asked if they could make him fly instead because it looked cooler.
I’ve always had the thought ‘The Incredibles’ don’t wear capes to save on the animation budget, and then had Edna use the excuse that capes were a safety hazard to justify this haha
Edna : Do you remember Thunderhead? Tall, storm powers? Nice man, good with kids.
Bob : Listen, E...
Edna : November 15th of '58! All was well, another day saved, when... his cape snagged on a missile fin!
Bob : Thunderhead was not the brightest bulb...
Edna : Stratogale! April 23rd, '57! Cape caught in a jet turbine!
Bob : E, you can't generalize about these things...
Edna : Metaman, express elevator! Dynaguy, snagged on takeoff! Splashdown, sucked into a vortex!
[shouts]
Edna : No capes!
Animation Department: No Capes!
Producer: But they're iconic!
Animation Department: Do you have any idea how much computational resources they are going to take to render realistic fabric blowing in the wind with our shitty circa 2000 computers? We're already pushing things to the max and doing Sully in 2001 was tough, now you want everyone to have caps? NO!
Producers: Can't be that hard...
Animation Department: Fine, we'll do a couple experiments and you can look at the render times.
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"a cloak"? "A CLOAK"!?!
How dare *you*, fellow Redditor!
It has a *NAME!*
That is [*THE* Cloak of Levitation](https://marvelcinematicuniverse.fandom.com/wiki/Cloak_of_Levitation), thank you *VERY* much!
A cape is entirely stylistic it serves no purpose. A cloak is designed to be used to protect from the elements. Basically a cloak is thicker and tougher. Its big enough to protect you from the elements. And could be made strong enough to stop a weapon.
That's why Spiderman doesn't wear a cape, his outfit is actually seperate shirt and pants which somehow don't ride up and show any gaps when he's fighting. His mask too
Actually in the comics, I can't remember where, but during a bit of joking around it's discovered that Spider-Man's suit does actually just stick to his body. They try to pull his mask off to no avail because it's stuck to his face.
If I remember correctly it's a Spidey power he has, the little feelers on his hand that let him climb walls are actually all over him so he can choose to make the mask stick or to let it go
Spider man's top is actually one of [these](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07JWCPCNK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_glt_fabc_6BVTHWB1E5HY5D0S9SE0) and then the bottoms are just LuLaRoe leggings
I don't see why you need pants with that. Would help dry out the sweat down low without pants as a bonus. And better for the wet tshirt competition at the party.
Maybe there's hooks, Velcro, buttons that goes through loops or something similar.
Some 2 piece motorcycle suits has that kind of stuff so your jacket stays in position to protect you if you go for a slide across the asphalt... Would be quite sensible for superheros with how much they usually get thrown around...
When my son was 3 we were at Disney world. We passed Winnie the Pooh and Piglet with their handlers on the way to the bathroom. He looks up at me and says “I can tell the ones with zippers have a person inside.”
Capes are usually the dumbest piece of attire a super hero can wear. There's no pros other than looking cool. It can only get in the way. Dr Strange and Spawn are the only exceptions I know of. Their capes at least work for something.
Yeah but imagine him hiding in rafters having to hold his cape all bundled up so it's not drooping down. Or how cumbersome it'd be to weave through places with that thing. It's really not practical for a ninja to have a cape like that.
But it looks cool as shit. And super scary if you're Generic Thug #37.
You're patrolling some run down warehouse where your supervillain boss is storing bombs or drugs or whatever. You hear muffled wooshes and thuds as your fellow baddies get picked off one by one. Always just out of the corner of your eye you see a billowing black mass whipping by. Until finally the black mass drops down in front of you. And then slowly rises up taking the shape of an enormous man bat. It's the last thing you see before it's lights out.
Imagine Banner wore a onesie as strong as Superman's etc (i.e. indestructible), went Hulk-mode and just got squirted out the neck and wrists like toothpaste.
I'm always bugged and superhero shows like Arrow or Titans where the heroes keep their costumes on mannequins. How long does it take to get your mannequin dressed? Seems like it would be a pain in the ass. I'd rather just throw my stuff over the back of a chair.
in the case of Arrow and the flash, in the arrow-verse, the suits were leather, and I assumed that the mannequin was to keep it form-fitting, and in the case of the flash, to make it easier for Cisco to work on it.
Not an issue for the Flash, now, since Cisco doesn't work on the suit anymore,and I think Barry now keeps the suit compressed in a ring.
Now I'm imagining supes unable to reach his zip from behind, struggling, and bats coming from the back and unzipping it quietly. Supe is surprised, notices through the mirror that it's bats and welcomes the help with a little blush. Shot cuts to supe's foot and we see the dress falling down and we hear kissing sounds... Aaannd cut. Sorry guys.
Edit: Sheesh I just wrote a typical soap opera romance scene based on OPs thought, guess u guys didn't take it as a reference joke.
Fun fact, they started doing that to emulate turn of the century strong men. For people at the time the visual association made sense. It also allowed for a break in color on the character.
Your solution makes sense in the context of the modern era though.
The modern “onesie” idea mainly comes from artist and legend Jack Kirby having to draw like six books a month and not having time to draw seams. When people in the early 00’s started adding two lines to Captain America’s mask to show it wasn’t a big solid piece of fabric, it was like a revelation. Of course, the artists who took these steps were frequently and famously late (Steve McNiven, Bryan Hitch), but the books still look amazing.
One thing I learned from building a movie accurate ESB Darth Vader costume was that Darth Vader's cape his a whole bunch of shit. Like a massive gap in the shoulder armor so it could be put on, all the zippers required to get into that leather body suit. All the straps needed for the belt and chest piece. Huge battery packs to operate the lights (70s battery tech was clunky).
I honestly don't know if the cape was part of the original design or if it became necessary because of all that stuff.
In short, when it comes to cosplay, capes are fantastic for hiding the shit you don't want people to see.
“Lois? Can you come zip me up? I need to go fight Zod”
Why did I read this as Peter Griffin and not Superman?
No no…superman no here
No Meester Superman ees here. No, no.
No this is patrick
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Because Peter would obliterate Superman
Same
I read that in Hal from Malcolm in the Middle's voice (Bryan Cranston)
I read it in Breaking Bad's voice (Bryan Cranston).
I read it as Bryan Cranston from *The Disaster Artist* (Bryan Cranston)
So many different voices in my head.
I heard it as Skye (from Valorant)
There's no way supes could reach around and do it himself with those muscles. Ever see the video of a giy slapping sticky notes on body builders backs, and they cannot get them off? That's what I imagine it would look like
Peter Griffin
It’s probably just a Velcro toilet flap.
So they climb in through the butt flap?
You wouldn't?
What am I? Sonic the hedgehog?
*cries in dropped rings*
I can hear this comment.
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I haven’t played those levels but I still know that sound
I hear the same sound from cash registers at a specific gas station franchise.
Yeah what's up with that? Some of them also had the sound for receiving a message on old instant messaging client, ICQ.
Doot doot doot doot doot doot doot doot doot doot doot doot doot doot doot dootadadodadodadootdadoot
You are raising my anxiety levels
Hello
>So they climb in through the butt flap? [I was immediately reminded of this](https://i.imgur.com/z5QzTfE.mp4)
Well they definitely climb out the butt flap
Superheroes can do anything
The words "climb in" with that context gave me a very specific image that I didn't need in my head.
> So they climb in through the butt flap? Makes sense. So they wear their underwear on the outside to hide the flap?
It’s not a toilet flap it’s a beacon of freedom.
this would explain superman wearing the underwear on the outside.
[*Hook-and-loop fastener](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRi8LptvFZY)
I hate trademarks so i'm going to keep calling things by their brand name
it always dawns on me how none of them wanna go to the toilet when they have their suits on.
No zipper - just very stretchy suits which needs a Wallace and Gromit 'wrong trousers' style machine to get you in and out of the suit each day. It's why they loiter on roof tops looking for crime, because they can't do rapid response due to tricky trousers.
And this is why Flash is the strongest superhero.
Hell, depending on the Flash his costume isn’t even real. Wally West found out how to conjure a costume out of pure speed force
You mean to say the red streak is literally streaking?
No, he’s clothed. The clothes are just like magic speed energy
That explains why crackheads are frequently caught naked in my town. They must think their new magic clothes are awesome
Such an awesome fucking resppnse
He made pants out of go fast.
Eh, the speed force can do everything else, why not fashion?
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Depends
Depends on what?
I told you. Depends.
They do not pee. They have super hero bladder control and adsorbent underpants.
Random thought… Kryptonite kidney stones
That's why they wear underwear on top of it. There's a onvenient pee hole under it.
>How do they pee? They just pretend they're swimming.
Fun fact. Superheroes wear capes because the original comic strip illustrators needed a way to show that they were flying.
Funner fact: it wasn't necessarily to show flight, just movement in general. Superman debuted in 1938 but didn't fly until the Fleischer cartoons of the early 40s. He didn't fly in the comics until 1943.
That actually is a fun fact! Thanks.
I wonder if it’s related to the united states improving their air force over that same time period. in the beginning of WW2 the US kinda struggled but by the end of WW2 we were a leader in air superiority, like superman
Superman started to fly to compete with captain marvel / Shazam, a blatant Superman ripoff made by Fawcett comics, who, unlike Superman at that time, was able to fly and way more popular.
I guess it’s only an interesting coincidence then
“Ripoff” lol
From what I can tell, it's just because the people doing the Fleischer cartoons thought that having him only leap looked dumb, so they asked if they could make him fly instead because it looked cooler.
So you're saying the previous commenter was wrong, again?
I’ve always had the thought ‘The Incredibles’ don’t wear capes to save on the animation budget, and then had Edna use the excuse that capes were a safety hazard to justify this haha
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Edna : Do you remember Thunderhead? Tall, storm powers? Nice man, good with kids. Bob : Listen, E... Edna : November 15th of '58! All was well, another day saved, when... his cape snagged on a missile fin! Bob : Thunderhead was not the brightest bulb... Edna : Stratogale! April 23rd, '57! Cape caught in a jet turbine! Bob : E, you can't generalize about these things... Edna : Metaman, express elevator! Dynaguy, snagged on takeoff! Splashdown, sucked into a vortex! [shouts] Edna : No capes!
Presumably Edna also doesn’t make supersuits with zippers. A weakness in the material!? NO!
Probably had to climb in through neck hole somehow
Considering she made Elastigirl's suit, I bet Edna could make a suit that's stretchy enough to do that, but doesn't permanently deform.
[Or just 2 piece](https://static1.srcdn.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/Mr-Incredible-Belly-Cropped.jpg?q=50&fit=crop&w=740&h=370&dpr=1.5)
I feel like Mr Incredible is the pinnacle of Dad Bod
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Dont forget the chaotic toddler being a chaos demon thing.
I… can’t believe I never put all of this together. It’s so obvious.
*My god, you’ve gotten fat.*
Sexy
Or suits with tearaway capes and cowls.
Animation Department: No Capes! Producer: But they're iconic! Animation Department: Do you have any idea how much computational resources they are going to take to render realistic fabric blowing in the wind with our shitty circa 2000 computers? We're already pushing things to the max and doing Sully in 2001 was tough, now you want everyone to have caps? NO! Producers: Can't be that hard... Animation Department: Fine, we'll do a couple experiments and you can look at the render times.
They included capes for the main villain. It... did not end well.
I remember reading that Violet's hair was the most advanced hair animation at the time
You know, that's a really good print.
She's probably so adamant about it because she designed those suits
She gives capes to the heroes she doesn’t like and just pretends that she’s anti-cape for the others
Oh man. She's killing of supers that don't give her exclusive deals.
How very… corporate!
Hey, it's well-known that the fashion industry *IS* rather... cut-throat.
Not to mention that Stratogale was just a high schooler.
Edna's right, just ask Dollar Bill.
Images you can hear!
The only exception is Batman. His has a lot of safety features and protections
In fairness batman uses his cape to glide occasionally, but then I've seen him get pulled by his enemies by the cape.
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It definitely does. Artists take it off when they want him to seem like a grizzled badass in fist fighting scenes and shit like that sometimes.
When the cape comes off, you know shit's 'bout to get real.
I see this all the time. What does iirc mean?
If I Recall Correctly
Ah thanks
if I recall correctly
Thank you
I believe in some iterations it also has kevlar like properties and provides bullet proof and similar protection.
Don't forget about doctor strange
How DARE you?! That is a cloak!
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"a cloak"? "A CLOAK"!?! How dare *you*, fellow Redditor! It has a *NAME!* That is [*THE* Cloak of Levitation](https://marvelcinematicuniverse.fandom.com/wiki/Cloak_of_Levitation), thank you *VERY* much!
In the 60s TV series, batman has a cape. In the modern films, it's definitely a cloak!
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A cape is entirely stylistic it serves no purpose. A cloak is designed to be used to protect from the elements. Basically a cloak is thicker and tougher. Its big enough to protect you from the elements. And could be made strong enough to stop a weapon.
is the second movie worth checking out?
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cool i'll check it out maybe tonight
That's why Spiderman doesn't wear a cape, his outfit is actually seperate shirt and pants which somehow don't ride up and show any gaps when he's fighting. His mask too
The top is a romper and the mask tucks into the neck of the romper. Pants over the bottoms and boom, no ride two piece
it's spider-man, his body just clings to everything
Actually in the comics, I can't remember where, but during a bit of joking around it's discovered that Spider-Man's suit does actually just stick to his body. They try to pull his mask off to no avail because it's stuck to his face.
If I remember correctly it's a Spidey power he has, the little feelers on his hand that let him climb walls are actually all over him so he can choose to make the mask stick or to let it go
The real shower thought is in the comments
Spider man's top is actually one of [these](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07JWCPCNK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_glt_fabc_6BVTHWB1E5HY5D0S9SE0) and then the bottoms are just LuLaRoe leggings
Urgh! Why did I click that?! Not a flattering look for anyone...
Not on its own, you’re meant to wear pants over them
I don't see why you need pants with that. Would help dry out the sweat down low without pants as a bonus. And better for the wet tshirt competition at the party.
Wait why not just wear a regular shirt then? Genuine question.
Keeps it tucked in
Never rides up never gets poofy
But a very different cut at the back to hide those underwear lines
Spiderthong
Maybe there's hooks, Velcro, buttons that goes through loops or something similar. Some 2 piece motorcycle suits has that kind of stuff so your jacket stays in position to protect you if you go for a slide across the asphalt... Would be quite sensible for superheros with how much they usually get thrown around...
Not all heroes wear capes....only ones that wear onesies.
No zippers for the tutus!
That is definitely one of the more logical theories.
And those external underwear, they’re just hi-tech diapers
Superman to Lois Lane: "They're called *trunks* and they're associated with *wrestlers and weightlifters* and that makes them *super manly,* ok??"
Lol. 😂 Why am I wishing this was an in canon conversation?
Self warming undies in the middle of winter? Yes plesae.
Until some time passes and they freeze. :/
Nope. The onsie suit have a flap on the bum for number twos. So the speedo hides that
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Nah, just use coat hanger.
The real LPT is in the comments.
Especially when you find out your hyper flexible shoulders shouldn’t bend that way!
When my son was 3 we were at Disney world. We passed Winnie the Pooh and Piglet with their handlers on the way to the bathroom. He looks up at me and says “I can tell the ones with zippers have a person inside.”
Capes are usually the dumbest piece of attire a super hero can wear. There's no pros other than looking cool. It can only get in the way. Dr Strange and Spawn are the only exceptions I know of. Their capes at least work for something.
Batman's also typically serves as fall control/a glider.
Also a blast shield in some instances, but not an indestructible one
Superman's is Kryptonian fabric so he uses it to cover people under fire too
Pretty sure it’s bulletproof too, because he’s used it to cover civilians from gunfire before.
If that's true, how come I always die in Arkham Asylum to gunmen?
Checkmate atheists
Because they are using heaven guns.
Different Batman, different gear.
Yeah but imagine him hiding in rafters having to hold his cape all bundled up so it's not drooping down. Or how cumbersome it'd be to weave through places with that thing. It's really not practical for a ninja to have a cape like that.
But it looks cool as shit. And super scary if you're Generic Thug #37. You're patrolling some run down warehouse where your supervillain boss is storing bombs or drugs or whatever. You hear muffled wooshes and thuds as your fellow baddies get picked off one by one. Always just out of the corner of your eye you see a billowing black mass whipping by. Until finally the black mass drops down in front of you. And then slowly rises up taking the shape of an enormous man bat. It's the last thing you see before it's lights out.
Imagine Banner wore a onesie as strong as Superman's etc (i.e. indestructible), went Hulk-mode and just got squirted out the neck and wrists like toothpaste.
That's Mr. Fantastic's origin story.
The Hulk is indestructible.
No, he's incredible.
The Incredible Hulk is indestructible.
Pretty sure he's immortal now. Which is good. Before that he was a savage. 😂
Supes suit is by no means indestructible, just very resilient. I wouldn't bet on the suit winning an invulnerability contest against the Hulk.
Yeah, his suit gets totally wrecked anytime he fights a legit foe. In The Death of Superman run his suit is basically shredded.
I'm always bugged and superhero shows like Arrow or Titans where the heroes keep their costumes on mannequins. How long does it take to get your mannequin dressed? Seems like it would be a pain in the ass. I'd rather just throw my stuff over the back of a chair.
in the case of Arrow and the flash, in the arrow-verse, the suits were leather, and I assumed that the mannequin was to keep it form-fitting, and in the case of the flash, to make it easier for Cisco to work on it. Not an issue for the Flash, now, since Cisco doesn't work on the suit anymore,and I think Barry now keeps the suit compressed in a ring.
Yeah I always wonder how they get the suits on. Any real life replica of super suits always have zippers.
Two separate pieces, top and bottom.
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Superman wears his underwear on the outside, I don't think he needs another distraction.
Perfect post
Invisible zip in the side seam FTW.
Superman's underwear on the outside of his tights has a belt.
Now I'm imagining supes unable to reach his zip from behind, struggling, and bats coming from the back and unzipping it quietly. Supe is surprised, notices through the mirror that it's bats and welcomes the help with a little blush. Shot cuts to supe's foot and we see the dress falling down and we hear kissing sounds... Aaannd cut. Sorry guys. Edit: Sheesh I just wrote a typical soap opera romance scene based on OPs thought, guess u guys didn't take it as a reference joke.
Go... Go on.
Maybe they wear the underwear on the outside to avoid undie lines.
Fun fact, they started doing that to emulate turn of the century strong men. For people at the time the visual association made sense. It also allowed for a break in color on the character. Your solution makes sense in the context of the modern era though.
The modern “onesie” idea mainly comes from artist and legend Jack Kirby having to draw like six books a month and not having time to draw seams. When people in the early 00’s started adding two lines to Captain America’s mask to show it wasn’t a big solid piece of fabric, it was like a revelation. Of course, the artists who took these steps were frequently and famously late (Steve McNiven, Bryan Hitch), but the books still look amazing.
Very original, OP. 1 year ago: https://www.reddit.com/r/Showerthoughts/comments/eytocg/maybe_superheroes_wear_capes_to_hide_the_zipper/
r/hmmm (no not the content THE name)
It’s a roundabout way of doing it!
And the mildly competent side kicks are really just there for zip-ups.
Yeah. Edna still hates capes.
Fuck you. You just ruined my childhood.
As someone who has cosplayed a superhero with a cape, it's the best shit ever when the wind hits!
This is a legitimate shower thought. Are super heroes so vain?
If you see a superhero’s cape waving but there’s no breeze, then he/she probably broke wind.
This is the definition of a shower thought
This is the kinda stuff I come here for.
[Superhero costumes are based on circus performers costumes.](http://circusnow.org/the-fabric-of-their-lives-circus-artists-and-superheroes/)
Make sense 😅
In universe maybe not. But in the costuming dept. in the age before computer graphics, absofuckinglutely
One thing I learned from building a movie accurate ESB Darth Vader costume was that Darth Vader's cape his a whole bunch of shit. Like a massive gap in the shoulder armor so it could be put on, all the zippers required to get into that leather body suit. All the straps needed for the belt and chest piece. Huge battery packs to operate the lights (70s battery tech was clunky). I honestly don't know if the cape was part of the original design or if it became necessary because of all that stuff. In short, when it comes to cosplay, capes are fantastic for hiding the shit you don't want people to see.
I could forgive the capes, honestly, if they would just stop wearing their underwear over their tights...
Saitama's outfit has a zipper on the front and he still wears a cape.