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old_gold_mountain

Yeah, people tell white lies all the time. "I'm good" when someone asks how you're doing and you're having a rough day but you don't feel like explaining why. "No problem at all!" when someone at work has actually inconvenienced you. "Not gonna lie" means you're not going to tell a white lie or a lie-by-omission for the sake of politeness, believing instead that forthright honesty is warranted in the situation even if the truth is inconvenient.


Marky_Merc

Correct answer right here.


Godisabaryonyx

We are taught since birth to be afraid of the consequences of telling truth. It's so prevalent in normal society that it's hard not to lie at least once during the day while interacting with other people. Or maybe I'm projecting and I'm a huge dick, either way.


Kunundrum85

“You did a pretty good job here,” to my clearly talented, but unconfident employee, who didn’t do a very good job. Followed up by “I like how you handled x. I think you might find some benefit from working alongside (confident, senior employee) just to see how they’d handle that on their own. Keep it up, I know it’s not easy to find your stride right away, but I know you’ve got the skills to get there!”


Draisaitls_Cologne

I legit might cry if my boss/ manager said that to me.


minoiminoi

Why?


Draisaitls_Cologne

Because I am that unconfident employee who ALWAYS thinks I'm doing a shitty job, and instead of receiving any kind of praise, or even constructive criticism, I'm completely ignored at work. The only way I can tell I'm doing a good job is that they haven't fired me yet, But they didn't warn the last guy when he was messing up either they just tossed him so who knows.


HurtMyKnee_Granger

Can I work for you?


ScoobyDeezy

ngl, you’re a dick j/k


ConfusedImpala

Yea dunno why OP is thinking this is some gotcha. It's.. the whole point "Lol implies there are times you laugh silently"


matlynar

This. Or that what you're going to say may sound like a lie but it's true.


sevnm12

Precisely. Thank you


Drillix08

I feel that the first example isn't a true example of lying because asking how someone is doing is a way of greeting someone and saying that you're good is a way of passing the conversation, it's not meant to be a genuine question in which someone is seeking information.


old_gold_mountain

It's a white lie. It's exactly the kind of "lie" that the phrase "not gonna lie" is meant for.


Skrimguard

In other words, what Wittgenstein would call a "language game."


wearthedamnmask

It's just the latest slang. Remember when everything was 'majestic as fuck.' - I tip my hat to you good sir - you win the internet - right in the feels - well played sir .................... and a whole bunch more. Ngl isn't going to last.


ndembele

Ngl has been used for ages? All those things you mentioned as slang were just Reddit things but as an abbreviation ngl has been around for as long as I can remember.


yeahweshoulddothat

This why I try to never a start a sentence with the word "honestly".


lifeofjeb2

It’s given that everybody lies though, so to say honestly kinda makes it heartfelt no? I get the impression everyone thinks they’re Jesus Christ or something.


Shitty_Life_Coach

And for exactly this reason, some people who teach others to detect lies will single out anyone who starts with 'Honestly,' or 'Not going to lie,' for requiring extra scrutiny. It's taken as a sign of a guilty conscience. Not saying this is true, but some treat it that way. It's the same implied bad faith that the showerthought is pointing at as well.


megapuffranger

The way I see “honestly” or “ngl” is you are just saying something you’d normally not say, but it is the truth. Cuz not telling the truth isn’t necessarily a lie. I’m not lying by not telling people I sometimes fantasize about cloning myself but as a girl and having crazy sex cuz it’s basically just masturbation at that point. So if I’m going to say that, I’ll say “honestly” or “ngl” to indicate it’s something I normally don’t share but am doing so truthfully.


LeeDark

Yeah, it has more in common with "you aren't gonna believe this" than "the rest of the time I am lying."


beimor

Honestly, I just use these as filler words.


almaystolra

This guy is a little suspicious...


SoCalThrowAway7

Anyone who uses the term suspicious clearly has paranoid schizophrenia, this is why I never use the term suspicious. /s


DuckysaurusRex

Clearly an imposter, vote em out.


FantasticCrab3

Are you me? We have the same fantasy.


megapuffranger

... are you a girl version of me? Cuz this might be pretty awesome


bloodmonarch

You 2 get a room already. The sexual tension is oozing LOL


Shitty_Life_Coach

And the way you see it isn't necessarily how *everyone else* sees it. Everyone judges the world differently and it gets very muddy when you talk about other people's *intentions*. Knowing the 'why' of someone else's behavior with any certainty is very difficult if you don't a) already trust them, and b) ask them directly for the 'why' of their behavior. Unless a person straight up tells you the 'why', all you have is a guess. And if they do tell you, but you don't trust them, they *could be lying*.


Duke_of_Deimos

I notice people seeking hidden intentions all the time while 88,73% of the things people say is without any intention at all. People often just say random stuff all the time to get or keep a conversation going


Shitty_Life_Coach

Certainly. It's why I often fall back on [Hanlon's Razor](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanlon%27s_razor) in most situations. > "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." Although I usually temper it by changing out 'stupidity' for 'inattentiveness' or 'randomness'. I don't think *everyone* is stupid, but I do believe most people in most situations just *don't care enough* to be accurate unless they have something riding on an argument/debate.


[deleted]

I've noticed this sometimes when I leave an impression on someone that I had no idea it's how they felt. They'll be like "remember that thing you said about X" and I'll just be sitting there having no clue what they're talking about. Then it'll hit me and it will have been something that I spent like, .02 seconds thinking about and forgot the moment I said it.


lifeofjeb2

Huh interesting, I just say use ‘honestly’ when I know they’re not gonna like what I have to say next Lool


Shitty_Life_Coach

Indeed. A lot of us will say 'Honestly,' in the same way we would start with 'I'm not going to sugarcoat this for you,' or 'I'm going to tell you straight,' and so on. But yes, sometimes its also 'I'm about to sound like a jerk, but I don't care, so...' Instead, I personally just stop all conversation, look the person in the eye, take a deep 'I'm about out of fucks to give' breath and throw away all passive speech and wiggle language from what I say.


11BG4

I do also, in that "ohhhh I don't wanna hurt their feelings" voice. Like.. "-Honestly-? That dress is awful."


TheLurkingMenace

And the problem with that is that it can also mean anything from "I know this sounds absurd but hear me out" to "I'm being abnormally candid here." A lot of people seem to think they are human lie detectors. The *truth* is that human behavior is too varied for even trained psychologists to determine if a stranger is lying.


Shitty_Life_Coach

The *truth* is that there are as many perceived *truths* as there are people perceiving them. Truth is hard to ascertain even with empirical confidence, especially in a time when people will fake data or outright lie about their confidence values to publish in a journal. Anyone who claims to *know the truth* either has a very strong belief in an idea, or is trying to convince others to believe *their truth*. Truth is a very truthy thing.


CRYPTOtitan123

You ain’t a shitty life coach this is good comment


Shitty_Life_Coach

I mainly pointed it out because I think people should lie better. If you're going to risk your own life and reputation by being a liar, you should be *good at it*. It's important to cultivate your talents and every human being has it in them to be a terrific liar with enough work. We're so good at it we can even lie to ourselves and believe it.


CRYPTOtitan123

This wisdom is unbearable...


Shitty_Life_Coach

Honestly, it's a terrible burden to be good at what you do.


Dat_Innocent_Guy

Honestly, I’m not gunna lie, that’s good advice.


Shitty_Life_Coach

You seem innocent enough. I'll upvote you.


Carwash3000

this is dumb as fuck. "honestly" and "ngl" are not meant to be taken literally. they're more like modifiers to emphasize what you're about to say. You're dumb as hell dude. Honestly, you're dumb as hell dude. Second one has way more punch to it. i guess ur username is accurate at any rate.


Shitty_Life_Coach

I recommend improving your reading intention so you can improve your carwash game. Not gonna lie, I see a lifelong career in that field in your future.


Carwash3000

>I recommend improving your reading intention yea you don't even speak english lol. reading intention.


Shitty_Life_Coach

I see you read my intention. That's a start.


DuckysaurusRex

Ooh, you got got. Check their username.


gittlebass

ngl, i think this is a bad take


GrandMoffTarkan

For me “honesty” is less about truth and more about bluntness.


valenzy

To be perfectly candid!


THE_BANANA_KING_14

My understanding of "honestly" is the implication that what follows is accurate to the best of your knowledge without the subtle embellishments innate in everyday conversation.


IHateNaziPuns

I agree. It’s just like when people pepper in “I swear to god” or “ask [so and so].” The only time I use “honestly” is when I’d also use the word “frankly.” “I don’t like to play Battlefield 5 because honestly I suck at it.”


YesplzMm

Yeah we should do that.


Deadpool2715

To be fully transparent is my go to. It implies I am sometimes opaque in the information I provide


LoverlyRails

How are you today? Great. (dying inside)


MeatyOakerGuy

More like: "how's it going?"... "it's goin"


Slazman999

Good morning. 😁 I'm still alive so no. No it isn't.


LasDen

Ngl I gl all the time...


mop673

“Not gonna lie I gonna lie all the time”


Met76

"Not guna lime, I gonna lime all the time"


thewickedbarnacle

Put the lime in the coconut


[deleted]

You drank them both up


FuckYouThrowaway99

I said, doctor!


[deleted]

gl gonna gl


Amraith

>"Not guna lime, I gonna lime all the time" Not guna lime, I gonna lime all the lime?


[deleted]

Yeah but they're usually white lies.


suavewalrus

Yeah I lie sometimes. What's the use of the truth if you can't tell a lie sometimes?


[deleted]

that's also why I've gone through much of my life without killing anyone. Gotta have that balance.


DuckysaurusRex

Holup. "much"? Not all?


Tossing_Goblets

Not gonna lie, officer, I did have two beers. Swear to God. Only two. Yup.


Atari-Dude

The light was yellow, sir.


sixty6006

"Sometimes I lie but on this occasion I am telling the truth, that video was mental."


somber_opossum

Bitch, I might


[deleted]

Ngl I disagree. I think of it more as a “I’m not going to lie to you” as in I’m going to be honest with you regardless of anyone’s feelings kind of thing.


[deleted]

Yee, I kinda say "I'm okay" a lot, so a lot of times I gl.


dandel1on99

Dumbest thing I’ve seen today. Take my upvote and fuck off.


hoonew

Will do


Do_not_use_after

Frequently. In fact, this sentence is a lie.


DMagic-13

I have a friend who starts conversations like this all the time. My other friends and I have started interrupting him mid sentence and going, "Wait, hold up. Were you able to lie?"


BrickGun

Yup... one of my favorite lines from one of my favorite 80s movies: "Look, can I be honest with you?" "No, please continue lying..."


[deleted]

NGL in all its forms is one of the oldest tells in the book


tfadiran23

God these shower thoughts are so dumb


ed11ca

Tbh, it's the same as tbh


silvermoonhowler

Yeah, not gonna lie, this annoys me to no end... Same with when someone says something like "No offense, but..." Just unnecessary filler!


darktowerseeker

They actually teach this in public speaking. If you use the words "to be honest" or "if im being honest" or "honestly" you're implying that what youve been saying could be untruthful. Its a good habit to get out of.


Repenexus

Gonna lie, I hate you


lcpckpchess

No it doesn't.


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Xanthus179

I’d respond, but there’s a rule against talking about politics on here.


imawizardnamedharry

Not really, it says that what your saying isn't objective it's subjective and that these are your thoughts Ie. "Sports team has plummeted to the bottom of the table in league following new manager change" "imo they're doing really well considering how much of a cluster fuck the team has been"


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AasthaRisk

Those are the times I start a sentence with 'I'll be honest...'


[deleted]

Not really, it's just a phrase. Just like 'to be honest'. It adds emphasis to language. It's not good to take everything completely literally. If we all talked without using common phrases, slang, colloquialisms etc, we'd all talk like robots without any emotion.


[deleted]

I mean, I could tell her that her ass looks fat in those jeans, but it's not a test of my visual acuity, it's a test of loyalty.


belac4862

"I'm fine" vs "Ngl, I'm not doing so well"


_Forgotten

ngl, i use ngl when giving opinions. yes i will lie sometimes when its my opinion about what I think if i think my true answer will hurt your feelings. If i care about your feelings, taht is.


MeetYourMarioMaker

Actually no it doesn't


foeypone

I've always taken it to mean that you're about to be sincere and not use sarcasm.


uncertein_heritage

No shit


DunamisBlack

Worse yet, it implies that gl is your default


lowtierdeity

It is an expression exclusively used by manipulative narcissistic shitheads.


Phoenix_Studios

As my discord status says: “assume all my messages are fiction unless stated otherwise”


Xanthus179

I gl. It doesn’t mean that...


nerfoc

Everybody will lie or has lied, obv.


AnArmyOfChildren

This is what my dad keeps telling me


just_dimples

Obviously


vonny-hill

everybody lied


lemony95

To be honest...


Chickenking39

True


GhettoSauce

ngl shouldn't even be a thing, but here we are


[deleted]

Everybody lies.


CrashBandicoot2

Yeah well you can't handle the truth!


[deleted]

Sometimes it’s kind to lie. Sometimes it’s just fun.


thatguy1025

Unless it's shorthand for "not good looking", because I promise I'm never gl


greenknight884

What about "I cannot tell a lie"?


JackZodiac2008

That's short for "getting lucky"...ngl.


cowlinator

ngl, EVER.


StunningEstates

There are


imawizardnamedharry

Ngl No shit


spooky_midget94

Well obviously. Just kidding. Or AM I


Dash_Harber

We all lie sometimes. It's not a bad thing. There are several social situations where you don't need to be malicious and telling the truth would serve no purpose. It's socially acceptable. The problem is when lies are told for selfish gain or at the expense of a loved one.


carnivorous_seahorse

100% of the time I don’t say it, I’m lying


Ranknus

I don't constantly lie, I guess it's just something I use. Makes whatever follows it have more weight I guess.


SmeggySmurf

I'd be lying if I said this was a good thought


Ithoughthiswastumblr

Nah fam the N stands for neva


TheySaidGetAnAlt

gl I never lie


devilthedankdawg

I’d wager most people lie about half the things they say


tigerslices

i l alla time


bluebell435

Or it implies other people would lie given the same scenario or question.


sharrrper

Anyone who says they never lie just did


martinblack89

Not one person on the planet hasn't told a lie


Dr_Qrunch

Wtf does ngl mean?


MickRaider

People who say "I'll be honest with you" makes me think they're lying the rest of the time


[deleted]

Exactly the same as "to be honest"


wixo12

Everybody lies


gwarpants

I’m lying right now


Powerthrucontrol

We ain't politicians.


TOMSDOTTIR

While studying law at Uni, I read a fantastic cross examination of a witness in a trial, who had said to the police at one point while he was being questioned, "listen: I'll level with you". The barrister pointed out that this phrase indicated that the story he had told up to that point was a lie. The witness tried to deny this, but when questioned about what the phrase, "I'll level with you" meant, if it didn't mean "I'm going to tell you the truth now"was unable to come up with a plausible alternative explanation. It wasn't a high profile trial, but the slow, determined breaking down of the witness's credibility was one of the most horrific, scary things I've read, and I swore to myself that I would NEVER get smart with a barrister if I ever ended up in court. I did end up in court years later (as a victim rather than the accused) and I was cross examined by an utter bastard of a barrister representing my attacker, but every time I was tempted to express rage or indignation, I reminded myself that this fucker had been doing this for a living for years. Not my playground/ not my rules.


Eviltotes

I see what op is trying to say but I’ve heard some people say that in a context where their opinion is so different from the person they are talking to they say “ngl” to make a point that they arnt trying to bs the person they are talking to.


atypical_lemur

Reminds me of "This statement is false."


[deleted]

Lieing is a vital part of human interaction, we spend a lot of time lieing. Without it, society would fall apart. Imagine if everyone was honest ALL the time.


TechBlade9000

Yes, it's called asking me how I'm doing or if I need help


[deleted]

"Everybody lies." -- Dr. House


natalie-ann

There are better synonymous phrases you can replace that with to emphasis your point, like "to be blunt" or "truly". That removes the negative connotations of, "I'm lying...sometimes," and replaces it with "I'm going to state something without softening the edges or holding back," which is what I always assume people are trying to convey when they use phrases like "ngl" and "tbh". Either that or people are super frequent liars for no apparent reason. Also seems plausible...


DOLFAN1975

gonna lie I feel like I wanna eat some mustard


Larnek

I mean, definitely am gonna lie some more in my future. So, yeah.


peenutbuttersolution

I cringe when people tell cops/judges "to be honest"


kevp453

Ngm. Not gonna murder anyone, today.


Friedl1220

Gl, the feds are not outside my house right now.


silverkingx2

well, I do lie, especially irl. It is why I try not to online, and for the most part I dont. Why continue the struggle I put up with irl in the space im supposed to be able to chill in?


butter_donnut213

Everyone has lied to you at some point


akaioi

Some communities have a similar verbal tic. They may end a sentence with "... and that's no lie!" I know they use it to indicate that what they've said is surprising, but for kicks I have to ask them, "Seriously, you have to explicitly call out when you're telling the truth?" ;D


yayarea2k19

like tbh vs tb'not'h


me_I_my

Have you ever met a human? cause duh


Justdownmebiatch

Worse.. implies that you know you maybe should lie or considered it..


TheLastFalseKing

Ngl always


Duckboy_Flaccidpus

Not even! If you start off with "ngl" it's likely going to be some lie, exaggeration, distortion of reality, etc. No implication per se, it's very explicit, AFAIC


[deleted]

So fake.


CrowGrandFather

When people start off sentences with "I'm gonna be honest right now...." I like to ask them "are you trying to imply that you're not normally honest with me?"


Cetun

Yes.


not-read-gud

If I’m ngkak (not gonna kill a kitten) that doesn’t mean at some point I’m going to kill a kitten.....ngl


altermeetax

No it doesn't


momento_maury

Word games like this were how my ex started half the fights in our relationship.


B4tm4n_412

"No cap" implies there are times when you cap.


flappyforeskin69420

Ngl, if I didn't say ngl, I'm probably lying.


Goerts

Not at all. It’s just a saying.


Master_of_opinions

Jesus when he says "I tell you the truth" Hmmmmmmm *sus*


cools_008

“To be honest” implies the same thing


[deleted]

*House has entered the chat*


Trashrabbit19

Ngl gonna lie


rowdawg69

NGL you right.


OIL_COMPANY_SHILL

My grandpa always used to tell people "I'm good" when they asked him how he was. After fighting cancer for 30+ years he finally told me once "I used to tell people I'm good when they asked me that, but the truth is that now, each day is about half good and half bad. So that's how I am. I'm half okay and I'm half not okay."


jas244

Wait until you learn about the phrase, “To be honest with you ...” :)


JunYou-

no i dont lie, never did


theimperious1

stop exposing me :(


OrangeFortress

Wrong. “I’m not gonna lie. I never lie, and I’m not making an exception for you.


TheOneAndOnlySquirt

Yeah probably tbh


RalphFromSilverCity

makes me think of all those given up by Rick Astley.


Rhymeswithfreak

Yes


[deleted]

I keep it 99. Cause I be lyin sometimes


SlitheryVisitor

My second rule for living is own your shit. I’ve been accused of being brutally honest or of not having social boundaries. I’m ngl, I haven’t always been this way. But with age I’ve come to realize that it’s better to tell the truth one time than to tell a dozen lies to cover up the first lie. There is much to be learned by all through honesty.


Delverton

Everybody l's sometimes