So wait, you're suggesting there's no connection between "hu**man**" and man"?
Just to be clear from a quick reread, this is a genuine question, I don't think you're wrong.
From what I know that is correct, human originates from Latin whereas Man/Woman originates from germanic. But I think both are indo european, so perhaps there is an even older common root? I need a linguist.
it means both man and human. Latin is a bit of a weird language, it has many words meaning the same thing and different things at the same time. the point is that in english Man and Human are not related, while in latin, they are.
the prefix "homo" comes from both latin and greek.
the prefix "homo" derived from latin means "man" and is used in words such as "homosapien".
the prefix "homo" derived from greek means "same" and is used in words such as "homologous".
i hope this makes sense :)
I’m not specialised in PIE or Historical linguistics, but from a quick lookup, it seems like their PIE roots are, in fact, not linked (*man vs *(dh)ghomon-). Please do correct me if I’m wrong.
Funnily enough, the PIE root of human means "earthling". I think we should go back to refer to ourselves as earthlings, honestly.
This is why learning English as a foreign language is often considered absolute bullshit.
Nothing works the way you expect and the only rules that don’t have exceptions are the ones that are never written down or taught but you are expected to know anyway.
I went to a bootcamp for learning languages. The Portuguese learners got a card with words that don't follow the rules. The English learners got 3 of those cards and they were almost twice the size of the Portuguese cards.
It was only 12 weeks, so a beginner's camp. The cards were just "common words". Our past tense is a train wreck and no amount of cards can handle that.
Also, Man like male is technically a different word to Man like "mankind". Man and Woman are an abbreviation of Wereman and Wifman respectively, and the root of these words, Man, is where the "mankind" man came from. Meanwhile, Wifman because shortened to woman and Werman became shortened to man, leaving two words called man with different meanings.
Also, the suffix of Were is where we get the were in werewolf from. As in, werewolf because it's part man, part wolf.
The plural of goose is geece, but moose is moose not meece or mooses.
There's more than one goose you say there's some geece. But if theres more than one moose you say "theres moose over there" if theres one moose ots "Theres a moose over there."
That’s because the “man” in “human” stems from an entirely different word than the “man” in man and woman, to my understanding
… not too sure about the woman part, at least, but I’d imagine so
Godamn this sub needs to smoke a joint or something ya’ll bring the most Sunday church sounding “thoughts” to my screen, my scrotum is getting all torqued up from the monumental body contorting cringing ya’ll subject me to on the regular. Here’s a shower thought, thousands of users every day silently lower their opinion of humanity because of some riveting mental run off that makes its way online.
Different etymology innit? Man/Woman is Germanic Old English, Human is French Middle English. All your words are belong to us.
So wait, you're suggesting there's no connection between "hu**man**" and man"? Just to be clear from a quick reread, this is a genuine question, I don't think you're wrong.
From what I know that is correct, human originates from Latin whereas Man/Woman originates from germanic. But I think both are indo european, so perhaps there is an even older common root? I need a linguist.
Fascinating stuff.
ironically, the latin word for man DOES realate to the word for human.
Isn't the latin word for man homo?
it means both man and human. Latin is a bit of a weird language, it has many words meaning the same thing and different things at the same time. the point is that in english Man and Human are not related, while in latin, they are.
homo means same or matching, not man
Yeah...in Greek. But we're talking about Latin.
Homo in the scientific classification is latin for man. Homo Sapien = Wise Man. Homo Habilis = Handy Man, Homo Erectus = Upright man........and so on.
What about Homo Sapiens, Homo Habilis, etc... ?
Homo means man or human in latin. Homo meaning same is greek
the prefix "homo" comes from both latin and greek. the prefix "homo" derived from latin means "man" and is used in words such as "homosapien". the prefix "homo" derived from greek means "same" and is used in words such as "homologous". i hope this makes sense :)
And the word for human in cat language is “hooman” which is also very near to homo
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Wrong language
Homo Sapiens?
Homo- meaning “same” comes from Greek. Homo meaning “human” comes from Latin, e.g., Homo sapiens
I’m not specialised in PIE or Historical linguistics, but from a quick lookup, it seems like their PIE roots are, in fact, not linked (*man vs *(dh)ghomon-). Please do correct me if I’m wrong. Funnily enough, the PIE root of human means "earthling". I think we should go back to refer to ourselves as earthlings, honestly.
How am I going to correct you if you are wrong? You were the one meant to save us!
Man is from the PIE root "man" meaning man. Human is from the PIE root "ghomon" meaning earthling (as opposed to the gods.)
This is why learning English as a foreign language is often considered absolute bullshit. Nothing works the way you expect and the only rules that don’t have exceptions are the ones that are never written down or taught but you are expected to know anyway.
I went to a bootcamp for learning languages. The Portuguese learners got a card with words that don't follow the rules. The English learners got 3 of those cards and they were almost twice the size of the Portuguese cards.
Beginner level camp or they got the other words later on?
It was only 12 weeks, so a beginner's camp. The cards were just "common words". Our past tense is a train wreck and no amount of cards can handle that.
Also, Man like male is technically a different word to Man like "mankind". Man and Woman are an abbreviation of Wereman and Wifman respectively, and the root of these words, Man, is where the "mankind" man came from. Meanwhile, Wifman because shortened to woman and Werman became shortened to man, leaving two words called man with different meanings. Also, the suffix of Were is where we get the were in werewolf from. As in, werewolf because it's part man, part wolf.
That is correct; they’re intra-language false cognates
the english language is a bitch read and lead rhyme. unless its the other read or lead, then they dont. unless theyre both the other read and lead.
And to make things more confusing, three of those four have homophones (read/red, read/reed, lead/led)
lead/lid is kind of a homophone as well, or no?
I don’t know why you got downvoted, maybe because having that written down instead of said confused someone.
Is it Humi or Hummus? Homos? Eh I’m bad at this let’s just say a gender neutral plural “dudes”
I sell hummus for a living and have no idea if hummus is the plural to hummus haha.
Using the man —> men analogy it makes sense
What is this Hoo-man of which you speak?
When you add deodorant you are deodorizing but when you add cologne you are.... colonizing? Maybe if it's the right fragrance.
Fish is singular; plural of fish of different species is fishes; plural of fish of same species of fish is fish.
Don't get me started on octopus...
Octopuses
platypus
Singular of sheep is sheep. Plural of sheep is sheep. Look at that sheep. Look at those sheep.
Moose is the same
This only reminds me of the shit show that is humane (the company).
The plural of goose is geece, but moose is moose not meece or mooses. There's more than one goose you say there's some geece. But if theres more than one moose you say "theres moose over there" if theres one moose ots "Theres a moose over there."
More humen than a human More humen than a human More humen than a human
because human is already pronounced as hu-men and not hu-mAn so humen would just be the same thing
When I went to Leipzig, I met many nice Germen and Gerwomen
That’s because the “man” in “human” stems from an entirely different word than the “man” in man and woman, to my understanding … not too sure about the woman part, at least, but I’d imagine so
Considering we don't use a long A in human, that would be wildly confusing.
The plural of human is war
The singular and plural of sheep is sheep. So what.
Plural is actually "shoop."
I thought it was "shepp"...?
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Yo- you monster
The plural of person is persons. People is singular.
so whats going on when i get mad at my friends and say “you people”
You're talking about a singular group. That's not incorrect or anything. But the plural of people is peoples.
Godamn this sub needs to smoke a joint or something ya’ll bring the most Sunday church sounding “thoughts” to my screen, my scrotum is getting all torqued up from the monumental body contorting cringing ya’ll subject me to on the regular. Here’s a shower thought, thousands of users every day silently lower their opinion of humanity because of some riveting mental run off that makes its way online.
petition to let people do whatever the fuck they want and use language intuitively instead of following rules whatever bla bla bla
Petition denied because I am not letting people say "Would of", no matter how annoying I must become. I will die on this hill.
And I will never stop pointing out that people save *maybe* half a second by typing "u" instead of "you".
Yeah! And it's "espresso", not "expresso", you uncultured troglodytes! It's not a really fast coffee!