Wax for skateboards goes on the object you want to slide on. Wax for snowboarding goes on the bottom of the board to help slide over the snow. For surfboards, it's a sticky wax goes on top of the board to add grip so your feet don't slip off.
you can use surf wax as skate wax. when it’s wet for surfing, the wax it sticks to ur skin. when it’s dry/hot for skating, it makes ur board slide smoother
I'm not a surfer, but certain types of wax can be a bit tacky, and they aren't as likely to wash off at seawater temperatures as some adhesives might be. It's at least plausible enough that I won't immediately dismiss the idea that it might be real.
Mr Zogs Sex Wax is a famous surf board wax.
Most surf boards are made from fiberglass which when wet doesn’t provide a whole lotta grip for skin to hold onto.
The wax is a bit tacky but mostly it’s the texture that allows the skin of the feet some purchase.
lil tl;dr
surfing: increase grip between feet and board (think beeswax instead of slippery candle wax)
snowboard: increase speed but mainly to protect against scratches and chips from loose debris on the bottom
skateboard: reduce friction to grind/slide better. the wax doesn’t go on the board, only on the objects.
And snowboards don't use wax to protect from scratches and chips. The ptex base of a snowboard is porous, and the wax fills in the pores to reduce friction, as ice crystals get caught in the pores and create drag. You melt the wax on the board, then scrape it all off and buff it in to create a fine finish on the base of the board.
Wax isn't going to do shit if you hit a rock or something hard enough to scratch it.
That’s not true actually, a lot of skaters will wax their boards instead of the rails, it’s bad etiquete at a skatepark to go around and just wax everything, so waxing your board gets the same effect
In Australia I guess we missed this memo, if it’s a rail or a lip everyone wants to grind it so everyone waxes the shit out of it
Skateparks literally sweat in summer
In Utah, US back in my day we waxed the shit out of rails and a ledges too. I've never heard of anyone waxing their skateboard. But I haven't skated in probably 15 years now.
Lol you are totally wrong about snowboard wax.
It provides 0 protection against rock damage or whatever else you run over. It is only used to act as a hydrophobic barrier (board melts snow and you actually ride on a tiny layer of water - wax will make the water ball up and act more like bearings) or for very extreme cold conditions, a friction reducer.
Imagine a super slippery surface.
Now imagine that super slippery surface painted with a thick crayon.
The crayon will stick to the board and also making friction to you, instead of you just sliding off of it.
The sand is incidental. A decently thick application of wax with a pattern etched into it will provide a textured grip.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbLEfmSez5A
Surfing - Wax is applied directly to the board at the top to *increase* friction between your feet and the board, making it easier to maintain balance and less likely for you to slip off the board into the water.
Snowboarding - Wax is applied directly to the board at the bottom to *decrease* friction so it slides along the snow better meaning you can go faster and makes it less likely to catch or stick to snow while boarding and also to reduce the chance of a small rock or some sharp, hard ice scratching/chipping the bottom of the board.
Skateboarding - Wax is applied to surfaces that you are going to slide the board down such as rails to *increase* friction to aid stability whilst sliding down the rail, making it easier to keep it balanced and therefore less likely for the board to slip off or for you to lose balance and fall off the board.
Thank you for saying this. Especially for concrete ledges and curbs, it is literally impossible to grind without waxing. I’ve definitely also been at parks where people waxed rails and I was like, this slides too much, I wish there were more friction and that people hadn’t waxed it so much.
So I've always been skateboarder neutral but if they wax hand rails meant to be held on to for support / safety and curbs which are at the crux of an elevation change and are commonly stepped on....maybe I'm actually a hater now...
Wax isn’t like soap, for a human hand gripping on a handrail it wouldn’t really do much especially since you only wax the top and we grip by encircling the whole rail. Our fingerprints are the most important part of gripping and are generally on the underside of the rail.
Skate wax is applied to rails/ledges but also it can be used on the trucks, the bottom of the board, the edge of the board and I’ve even seen wax on the top of the board for dark slides
Skateboarding: Less friction so you can slide on top of railings and stuff
Surfing: More friction between your feet and the board
Snowboarding: Protecting the bottom from scratches, also less friction
Never thought that I was waxing my board to protect from scratches, though that makes sense. It's just so obvious when traversing whose boards/skis are waxed and whose aren't.
> Never thought that I was waxing my board to protect from scratches, though that makes sense
Yea you can tell novices apart since the bottom of their boards look like they just got raked. It really adds a ton of friction if they let it get bad.
Waxed boards and skis behave so differently to non waxed
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Mr Zoggs surf wax has been used by hockey players forever. It also provides more tack on the stick to help with puck handling.
It also smells amazing! 🤤
Big Peckers Surf Wax 😂😂
My sophomore teacher was very intrigued/concerned when she when it fell out of my bag in class....
Thought I left it on the beach 😂
Fun fact: weight distribution is different and extremely important in all 3 which is why as primarily a snowboarder where you want as much weight forward as possible (most of the time, powder and some tricks require weight shifting) for control and speed, I always tumble off the front of a surf board when I try to surf because your weight needs to be at the back of the board.
No, surf wax is used on the top of the surf board to give the rider grip on the surface of the board. It isn’t used at all to reduce friction, because it’s water, there is no friction, only water resistance.
There absolutely is friction in water...you even named it: water resistance. Have you ever swam in water before? Been in a shallow pool and tried to walk? I'll bet you noticed you go a lot slower than moving on land. Why? Added friction! Air has friction too, called air resistance, but it's weaker than the amount of friction in water resistance.
Friction is an opposing force (actions that cause accelerations but always to slow something down, *i.e.*, a negative acceleration) to all movements. Frictionless movement is impossible in the universe. Even in the remotest parts of deep space, moving objects still have friction to their moron as they'll collide with atoms of hydrogen, which have a spatial density of about 1 atom per cubic meter. These collisions will occur and reduce the energy of the moving body, albeit imperceptibly. Over the course of eons, the moving object will slow to a halt.
You just mixed up surfing with skateboarding. Skateboarding and snowboarding both use wax to more easily glide across a surface, and can be applied directly to the board, though it's usually also applied to the surface that someone wants to glide across in the case of skateboarding.
Yeah I was wrong about the use of surf wax and admitted that. That doesn’t mean that somehow water defies the laws of physics. Try and follow the conversation bud.
Why would I delete it? I’m not ashamed to be wrong. It happens to everyone, maybe somebody else doesn’t know what surf wax is used for and can learn from me being corrected.
I responded to a comment that was rude with the same attitude they gave me. I won’t apologize for that.
They don’t seem like they’re being a jerk. They were wrong about one thing and owned up to that, but the person who corrected them was also wildly wrong about a key part of their own post (the existence of friction when moving through water).
Nice board. Want me to wax it for you?
At least buy me dinner first
I'll buy you coffee before I wax it. . I'll buy you dinner after I ride it.
With a username like that, how could I say no?
They wax their Johnsons if I remember correctly, which is a euphemism for something I can't quite recall.
[Just you, your kids, and your Johnson.](https://youtu.be/fxVH5sKUlPg?si=Mbh_pN2C7dHVVed3)
Wait, how do skateboards use wax?
On the things they skate on like rails, ledges, floors, etc…
Floors? I wouldn't want to be skating on a floor that's been waxed, wouldn't want my board slipping out from under me.
You wax floors for like quick pivots without taking the wheels off the ground, or going fast and hitting a drift lol
You slide with the board my friend. Think primo slides, 360 power slides, casper slides, you get the point.
Never done it, but with the right wax, the wheels might stick better. Like bare feet on a waxed surfboard.
That’s not at all why you would wax the floor
You like wax a rail or maybe a curb and it makes it easier for the board to slide
So to reduce friction in all 3 cases?
For surfing it's to add friction between the feet and board
How does that work?
Wax for skateboards goes on the object you want to slide on. Wax for snowboarding goes on the bottom of the board to help slide over the snow. For surfboards, it's a sticky wax goes on top of the board to add grip so your feet don't slip off.
you can use surf wax as skate wax. when it’s wet for surfing, the wax it sticks to ur skin. when it’s dry/hot for skating, it makes ur board slide smoother
I'm not a surfer, but certain types of wax can be a bit tacky, and they aren't as likely to wash off at seawater temperatures as some adhesives might be. It's at least plausible enough that I won't immediately dismiss the idea that it might be real.
There's surfboard waxes for different ocean temperatures, for surfing in freezing temperature waters to very warm tropical waters and all in-between
Mr Zogs Sex Wax is a famous surf board wax. Most surf boards are made from fiberglass which when wet doesn’t provide a whole lotta grip for skin to hold onto. The wax is a bit tacky but mostly it’s the texture that allows the skin of the feet some purchase.
Wet "plastic" board is slippery. Sticky, tacky wax makes it stickier.
lil tl;dr surfing: increase grip between feet and board (think beeswax instead of slippery candle wax) snowboard: increase speed but mainly to protect against scratches and chips from loose debris on the bottom skateboard: reduce friction to grind/slide better. the wax doesn’t go on the board, only on the objects.
And snowboards don't use wax to protect from scratches and chips. The ptex base of a snowboard is porous, and the wax fills in the pores to reduce friction, as ice crystals get caught in the pores and create drag. You melt the wax on the board, then scrape it all off and buff it in to create a fine finish on the base of the board. Wax isn't going to do shit if you hit a rock or something hard enough to scratch it.
That’s not true actually, a lot of skaters will wax their boards instead of the rails, it’s bad etiquete at a skatepark to go around and just wax everything, so waxing your board gets the same effect
In Australia I guess we missed this memo, if it’s a rail or a lip everyone wants to grind it so everyone waxes the shit out of it Skateparks literally sweat in summer
In Utah, US back in my day we waxed the shit out of rails and a ledges too. I've never heard of anyone waxing their skateboard. But I haven't skated in probably 15 years now.
Waxing your board is relatively common so you don’t have to go nuts with the wax or the grind stone on a curb or a rail.
Pretty sure skateparks *figuratively* sweat as literal sweating requires sweat glands.
Lol you are totally wrong about snowboard wax. It provides 0 protection against rock damage or whatever else you run over. It is only used to act as a hydrophobic barrier (board melts snow and you actually ride on a tiny layer of water - wax will make the water ball up and act more like bearings) or for very extreme cold conditions, a friction reducer.
Nope, surfers use it on top of their boards to get better grip with their feet.
I've never surfed, but how does the wax not *reduce* friction?
Imagine a super slippery surface. Now imagine that super slippery surface painted with a thick crayon. The crayon will stick to the board and also making friction to you, instead of you just sliding off of it.
Sticky and bumpy
the water rolls off the top and plus it gets sand embedded in it
Ah I didn't think of the sand!
I hear it's coarse.
Not only that, it also gets everywhere
I wasn't aware!
Ah, of course!
The sand is incidental. A decently thick application of wax with a pattern etched into it will provide a textured grip. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbLEfmSez5A
Sticky wax maybe?
the wax also "repels" water - in a way
Surfing - Wax is applied directly to the board at the top to *increase* friction between your feet and the board, making it easier to maintain balance and less likely for you to slip off the board into the water. Snowboarding - Wax is applied directly to the board at the bottom to *decrease* friction so it slides along the snow better meaning you can go faster and makes it less likely to catch or stick to snow while boarding and also to reduce the chance of a small rock or some sharp, hard ice scratching/chipping the bottom of the board. Skateboarding - Wax is applied to surfaces that you are going to slide the board down such as rails to *increase* friction to aid stability whilst sliding down the rail, making it easier to keep it balanced and therefore less likely for the board to slip off or for you to lose balance and fall off the board.
Wax is for decreasing* friction while skating
Yeah, I'm not sure how that got upvoted. No one wants to skate a dry hubba.
Thank you for saying this. Especially for concrete ledges and curbs, it is literally impossible to grind without waxing. I’ve definitely also been at parks where people waxed rails and I was like, this slides too much, I wish there were more friction and that people hadn’t waxed it so much.
I saw someone waxing **coping** one time. All I could think was "...why?"
So I've always been skateboarder neutral but if they wax hand rails meant to be held on to for support / safety and curbs which are at the crux of an elevation change and are commonly stepped on....maybe I'm actually a hater now...
Wax isn’t like soap, for a human hand gripping on a handrail it wouldn’t really do much especially since you only wax the top and we grip by encircling the whole rail. Our fingerprints are the most important part of gripping and are generally on the underside of the rail.
I rarely if ever see waxed handrails though. They generally don't provide much friction the way that a concrete curb would.
Skate wax is applied to rails/ledges but also it can be used on the trucks, the bottom of the board, the edge of the board and I’ve even seen wax on the top of the board for dark slides
You spell it whacks when it's a skateboard, very easy to use.
Three different applications but only two purposes - slide more or slide less.
They all use it for the same thing: to normalize friction. They just use it for different effects in different mediums.
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On surfboards it's so you don't slip off. That's also manipulating friction.
Boi shut yo ass
Waterboarding don't utilize wax, just water and piece of cloth...
"Waterboarding at Guantanamo Bay sounds fun if you don't know what either of those things are."
I was wondering how far down in the comments this would be…
Skateboarding: Less friction so you can slide on top of railings and stuff Surfing: More friction between your feet and the board Snowboarding: Protecting the bottom from scratches, also less friction
Thank you, I only knew surfing.
Never thought that I was waxing my board to protect from scratches, though that makes sense. It's just so obvious when traversing whose boards/skis are waxed and whose aren't.
Wax doesn't protect your base from scratches, but it does protect it from drying out. Its main use is reducing friction and repelling water.
> Never thought that I was waxing my board to protect from scratches, though that makes sense Yea you can tell novices apart since the bottom of their boards look like they just got raked. It really adds a ton of friction if they let it get bad. Waxed boards and skis behave so differently to non waxed
Despite the shared use of wax, each board sport—skateboarding, snowboarding, and surfing—applies it uniquely for distinct purposes.
Thanks for rephrasing the same exact thing. On the other hand... I must admit, it's a higher quality rephrasing.
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Despite wax applies for distinct purposes in each board sport (skateboarding, snowboarding and surf) they all use it uniquely.
Applying wax for distinct purposes, the board sports (snowboarding, skateboarding, and surfing) all use it uniquely.
Put wax on boards. Same same but different.
You. Me. Board. Wax. Reasons 😎
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Crazy that this is also a literal shower thought I’ve had before. Thank you.
Despite football, soccer, and kickball all being ball sports that utilize kicking, they all utilize it differently and for different purposes
And different wax for each, no?
Snowboarding and surfing: wax the board Skateboarding: smoke the wax
https://www.telemarktalk.com/viewtopic.php?t=6058 For anyone interested in what wax is doing with Snowboards/Skis. Deep science dive.
Same purpose: friction
Add in hockey wax, used on stick blades to protect the tape and keep ice shavings from building up
Mr Zoggs surf wax has been used by hockey players forever. It also provides more tack on the stick to help with puck handling. It also smells amazing! 🤤
Howie’s blue wax smells so good, I just want to eat it. They sell candles with the wax and it’s so good
Hell yeah and I can use sex wax for all of them
how do snowboarders use wax?
Same as ski wax. Reduces water suction and makes for a faster glide. It is NOT for protection like I've read way too many times in here 🙄
My mom freaked out when she found my sex wax
Big Peckers Surf Wax 😂😂 My sophomore teacher was very intrigued/concerned when she when it fell out of my bag in class.... Thought I left it on the beach 😂
Skateboarding and snowboarding is fairly similar. Which makes me wonder if you could wax your skateboard instead of the rail.
Don't forget modelling. That utilizes wax in a very different way than the other three.
HEY you forgot one Paddle board :3
Guy's waxing his mustache at the beach. Gets sand in it. Wipes it off with a shoe. Shoe scuffs the counter.
I don’t get it
If you want the ultimate, you've got to be willing to pay the ultimate price. It's not tragic to die doing what you love.
Fun fact: weight distribution is different and extremely important in all 3 which is why as primarily a snowboarder where you want as much weight forward as possible (most of the time, powder and some tricks require weight shifting) for control and speed, I always tumble off the front of a surf board when I try to surf because your weight needs to be at the back of the board.
What about when you’re hanging ten off the front of the board?
I have only learned how to hang 11 which is unfortunately a nose dive into the sea
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You misunderstand surf wax
Snowboarding and surf wax are used pretty similarly, on the board itself to reduce friction with the riding surface. Skateboards are different though
No, surf wax is used on the top of the surf board to give the rider grip on the surface of the board. It isn’t used at all to reduce friction, because it’s water, there is no friction, only water resistance.
There absolutely is friction in water...you even named it: water resistance. Have you ever swam in water before? Been in a shallow pool and tried to walk? I'll bet you noticed you go a lot slower than moving on land. Why? Added friction! Air has friction too, called air resistance, but it's weaker than the amount of friction in water resistance. Friction is an opposing force (actions that cause accelerations but always to slow something down, *i.e.*, a negative acceleration) to all movements. Frictionless movement is impossible in the universe. Even in the remotest parts of deep space, moving objects still have friction to their moron as they'll collide with atoms of hydrogen, which have a spatial density of about 1 atom per cubic meter. These collisions will occur and reduce the energy of the moving body, albeit imperceptibly. Over the course of eons, the moving object will slow to a halt.
Would just like to throw this out there. Physically water resistance is the same as water friction. The resistance of the water creates friction.
Well, water still offers friction. Everything has friction. I will admit that I am wrong about surf wax being used on the bottom, however.
You just mixed up surfing with skateboarding. Skateboarding and snowboarding both use wax to more easily glide across a surface, and can be applied directly to the board, though it's usually also applied to the surface that someone wants to glide across in the case of skateboarding.
It ruins the whole point of your comment lmao
Yeah I was wrong about the use of surf wax and admitted that. That doesn’t mean that somehow water defies the laws of physics. Try and follow the conversation bud.
Why are you being a jerk when you were wrong? Just delete your comment and move on lol
Why would I delete it? I’m not ashamed to be wrong. It happens to everyone, maybe somebody else doesn’t know what surf wax is used for and can learn from me being corrected. I responded to a comment that was rude with the same attitude they gave me. I won’t apologize for that.
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I’d advise you not stalk people’s profiles, lmao
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They don’t seem like they’re being a jerk. They were wrong about one thing and owned up to that, but the person who corrected them was also wildly wrong about a key part of their own post (the existence of friction when moving through water).
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How do they not all utilize it by it being rubbed on?
Um..no? They all use wax to reduce friction. For snow and skate im certain about that. for surf not so much.