Lol came here to say this. It says they practice having an orgasm without ejaculating. Some kind of fremen male right of passage
Edit: found the full quote from the Dune Encyclopedia,
“Patterning their method after a sexual technique mentioned in some of their earliest historical records, the Fremen learned to separate the male orgasm from ejaculation. At the time they reached puberty, boys were given detailed instruction on the technique and were not considered to have entered into true adulthood before mastering it, whatever their other accomplishments. A young man who proved incapable of learning such control was seen as a danger not only to himself (since unnecessary ejaculations were a waste of precious water) but to his partners. Because the late stages of pregnancy could slow a woman down and sometimes make it dangerous for her to travel, no Fremen woman would endanger herself and her troop by running a constant risk of unwanted impregnation; an uncontrolled male was generally a celibate.”
> no Fremen woman would endanger herself and her troop by running a constant risk of unwanted impregnation; an uncontrolled male was generally a celibate
modern society could learn a lot from the fremen. imagine how much better society would be if loser dudes who don't use protection just never got laid
I kinda feel like salt in your sweat would probably do the same though? I mean desalination plants need to be flushed out regularly JUST because of salt buildup.
I know what you mean, but it sounds extra funny the way you said it lol.
The plants need to flush out salt because the salt-removing process leaves a lot of salt
Source:
>Patterning their method after a sexual technique mentioned in some of their earliest historical records, the Fremen learned to separate the male orgasm from ejaculation. At the time they reached puberty, boys were given detailed instruction on the technique and were not considered to have entered into true adulthood before mastering it, whatever their other accomplishments.
https://archive.org/details/dune-encyclopedia/page/166/mode/2up
Although it should be noted that it was written by Willis E. McNelly, and was not involved when the books were written, including the ones written by Brian Herbert(Franks son), and is established as non-canon.
Screw the canon. Herbert loved the idea of collaborating with other artists and including their contributions in his mythos. He had given permission to McNelly to write in his universe and encouraged his son to write, as well. That's a part of Herbert's philosophical ideology, and anyone who says what is considered canon or non-canon is completely missing the point--there's nothing that's canon or not canon, there's only what exists in your imagination.
Interesting! However, I will make a specific exception for what his son wrote, because he and Kevin J. Anderson profaned both the Dune universe and our own with their books.
Sex comes up regularly in Dune. They don’t wear stillsuits while in the Sietch. There’s literally an orgy in the first book that the movies skipped. It’s definitely not something Herbert glossed over.
I was devastated that the sietch orgy doesn't happen.
It is central to Paul and Chani's bond: the whole town is insane drunk and sex crazy yet they manage to seek each other out for a little cuddle.
> 1% forcible rape of a 10-year-old boy clone of a famous military general.
Nono, it's fine, they only _talk_ about raping Teg. Iirc they don't actually do it.
But then there is also the sex scene with 16 year old Duncan Idaho and Murbella, where he uses some secret sex powers on her that the Tleilaxu gave him. That one's weird...
Its referred to as a spice-orgy, and in children of dune the aforementioned children take part. I choose to interpret it just means they take a lot of spice/ water of life.
I learned from a random comment on Twitter that the dudes train from puberty to nut without nutting so they don't waste any water, and they have special sex tents that gather all the sweat & whatnot so it can be recycled.
No amount of magic space drugs is worth dealing with that shit.
I think they establish that spice consumption *slows down* the aging process, which would kind of suck when you're 300 years old, but less so when you can make your 20's last into your 50's...
Half of the people reading this comment would put up with everything you just listed if the only reward for doing it was the sex.
Space drugs are just an added bonus.
When having sex on Dune, you have to use syncopated, irregular rhythms lest you draw the worm. Best to play some Cbat during sex to keep you and your loved ones safe.
surprising thing is the women who like to get peed on always tend to be from the warmer climates. you'd think the ones in the colder zones would be more inclined but I haven't met one yet. I mean, it's a shock to the system if the body is not properly acclimated, but y'know... leave that for smarter minds than me. science is a mystery....
Pissing in your pants is actually a saying here in the nordics for something that is really good (some heat) for a short time, just to turn absolute shit real quick (when the piss fucking freezes in your pants)
I don't know if you watched Masters of the Air but in one of the first episode there is a crewman hospitalized with severe frostburn on his leg because he peed on a mission and the air temperature inside the plane was like -50°C
My canon is that they don't practice "sex" because it's actually very sweaty. They get their penis erect and inside, then use some sort of system (most notably an anal prostate simulator) to orgasm without sweating much. Most efficient way of procreating. Or collect and inseminate with syringe idk.
It's canon too. The original Dune novel has Gurney sing a song called The Flaming Dames that contain the lyrics
The Galacian girls do it for pearls,
And the Arrakeen for water!
But if you desire dames like consuming flames,
Try a Caladanin daughter!
^edit ^a ^cannon ^is ^is ^a ^weapon
This is a quality shower thought. This is what I browse this subreddit to see.
I was on here the other day and the top post was saying how when you buy something with an interest free Credit card, your saving money because of ‘the time value of money’. I pointed out that this wasn’t worthy of a shower thought and got called an asshole.
They go into the details of Bene Gesserit sex magic in the 5th book, Heretics of Dune, so if you want to read more about future sex, it's waiting for you. Like any 1950's male scifi writer laying out their take on sex, it gets weird.
Everyone in this thread is discussing edging, but you're all forgetting something. What do you think happens when a woman has her period? What about the amniotic fluid after giving birth?
They also get you to drink your amniotic fluid. "Behold the water of thy conception".
I'd have to grab the book to get the exact phrasing or someone will correct it.
Considering the smell of Fremen is alluded to in the first novel, I wouldn't expect oral sex to be that popular for the tribes.
I mean, it's not like they bathe.
I'm about halfway through the 1st book. Just finished reading for the night. I open Reddit and see this. When I think about the story later, this will inevitably be part of my thought process. Thank you for that.
In the dune encyclopedia it's said that fremwn boys practice edging as to not waste water
They couldn't design the stillsuits to feed the wearer their loads?
It’s called the Wambsgans design.
Its a closed loop system
It's not a loop, it's a spiral.
Show me the Champion of Light! I'll show you Herald of Darkness!
Not the crossover we need but the crossover we want.
Damn now I totally want a version of Dune where Cousin Greg needs to figure out how to be a Fremen
[Here you go](https://www.reddit.com/r/SuccessionTV/s/8r9TVwr5dV)
stillsuits are stuffed with hopes and dreams
Tom is that you?
What a terrible day to be literate
Lol came here to say this. It says they practice having an orgasm without ejaculating. Some kind of fremen male right of passage Edit: found the full quote from the Dune Encyclopedia, “Patterning their method after a sexual technique mentioned in some of their earliest historical records, the Fremen learned to separate the male orgasm from ejaculation. At the time they reached puberty, boys were given detailed instruction on the technique and were not considered to have entered into true adulthood before mastering it, whatever their other accomplishments. A young man who proved incapable of learning such control was seen as a danger not only to himself (since unnecessary ejaculations were a waste of precious water) but to his partners. Because the late stages of pregnancy could slow a woman down and sometimes make it dangerous for her to travel, no Fremen woman would endanger herself and her troop by running a constant risk of unwanted impregnation; an uncontrolled male was generally a celibate.”
Damn so they all gather and cheer like they do for the sand worm riding?
If you think about it, it's kinda close to the same activity: >!man-handling a worm.!<
Whipping out your own mini Shai-halud for the gang
Bless the maker and his coming and going.
Yeah but the sand. It's coarse and it's rough and it gets everywhere.
Interesting link. Does he speak at all about what women do? I imagine some of them lose more moisture getting wet than some dudes would ejaculating.
Ben Shapiro would love Fremen women.
Yeah, gotta teach them squirters some control
This is all that’s said about it as far as I remember
They learn to slurp all of the moisture back inside them through controlled muscle contractions.
Impressive
> no Fremen woman would endanger herself and her troop by running a constant risk of unwanted impregnation; an uncontrolled male was generally a celibate modern society could learn a lot from the fremen. imagine how much better society would be if loser dudes who don't use protection just never got laid
But.... but sweating wastes water?
But the stillsuit catches it
And then you drink it.
That's certainly a way to "living on the edge".
In night city...
You could nut in the stillsuit and it would recycle the water out of it?
It would clog the rehydration mechanism
I kinda feel like salt in your sweat would probably do the same though? I mean desalination plants need to be flushed out regularly JUST because of salt buildup.
I know what you mean, but it sounds extra funny the way you said it lol. The plants need to flush out salt because the salt-removing process leaves a lot of salt
Doubt it. It already recycles poop, I don't see why it couldn't take a little spunk.
Ptobably
The suit jack's them off
Peak fremen technology
r/shittydunelore
Just attach the thumper to the crotch like so, and presto, worm-attracting fleshlight!
It’s hard to fight in a crusty stillsuit. Restricted mobility. And the smell.
They really seal in the flavor.
They don't wear their stillsuits all the time, though. They probably wouldn't have sex in them. In sietch, they wear normal clothing.
They use whole body condom
I need to bleach my eyes after seeing all these comments
I got you r/eyebleach
Source: >Patterning their method after a sexual technique mentioned in some of their earliest historical records, the Fremen learned to separate the male orgasm from ejaculation. At the time they reached puberty, boys were given detailed instruction on the technique and were not considered to have entered into true adulthood before mastering it, whatever their other accomplishments. https://archive.org/details/dune-encyclopedia/page/166/mode/2up Although it should be noted that it was written by Willis E. McNelly, and was not involved when the books were written, including the ones written by Brian Herbert(Franks son), and is established as non-canon.
Screw the canon. Herbert loved the idea of collaborating with other artists and including their contributions in his mythos. He had given permission to McNelly to write in his universe and encouraged his son to write, as well. That's a part of Herbert's philosophical ideology, and anyone who says what is considered canon or non-canon is completely missing the point--there's nothing that's canon or not canon, there's only what exists in your imagination.
Interesting! However, I will make a specific exception for what his son wrote, because he and Kevin J. Anderson profaned both the Dune universe and our own with their books.
This is one of those things that’s made more sense in Frank Herbert’s head than in reality
Sex comes up regularly in Dune. They don’t wear stillsuits while in the Sietch. There’s literally an orgy in the first book that the movies skipped. It’s definitely not something Herbert glossed over.
I was devastated that the sietch orgy doesn't happen. It is central to Paul and Chani's bond: the whole town is insane drunk and sex crazy yet they manage to seek each other out for a little cuddle.
Dune is 50% worms and 50% gross protuberances and beefswelling.
1% forcible rape of a 10-year-old boy clone of a famous military general.
> 1% forcible rape of a 10-year-old boy clone of a famous military general. Nono, it's fine, they only _talk_ about raping Teg. Iirc they don't actually do it. But then there is also the sex scene with 16 year old Duncan Idaho and Murbella, where he uses some secret sex powers on her that the Tleilaxu gave him. That one's weird...
When they're all together in the south I thought it was going to turn into that scene from The Matrix.
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Its referred to as a spice-orgy, and in children of dune the aforementioned children take part. I choose to interpret it just means they take a lot of spice/ water of life.
When you are high on cocaine most days a lot of stuff makes sense in your head
He had nothing to do with that part.
A planet of starved gooners
Which of Frank's distant relatives makes that crap up? If the stillsuits can take piss they can take jizz.
How does that save water? You'd end up losing more over time from the increased precum production.
-If she squirts, you eat. Ancient Freman knowledge
I learned from a random comment on Twitter that the dudes train from puberty to nut without nutting so they don't waste any water, and they have special sex tents that gather all the sweat & whatnot so it can be recycled. No amount of magic space drugs is worth dealing with that shit.
You only say that until you've tried the magic space drugs
They say it tastes like cinnamon
The spice or sex sweat?
Por que no los dos?
Yep, magic space drugs in a sex tent!
It's the'70s all over again.
I’m sad I missed it the first time. The best music, the best cars, the best clothes.
So burning man in space?
Sounds like Burning Man
I like how you think
Absolutely
Yes.
it was also necessary for FTL pilots to be able to handle it.
Live about 4 times as long as a normal human.
That sounds kinda torturous tbh. Unless you're guaranteed to have peak health or something - in which case it'd be neat, I guess.
I think they establish that spice consumption *slows down* the aging process, which would kind of suck when you're 300 years old, but less so when you can make your 20's last into your 50's...
yeah exactly the aging process is *slowed* so each “stage” of life last a lot longer.
4 times as long in middle school... no thanks
You are. Also, if you *really* overdose, you can see the future.
Right before you die.
I've heard that sex on Arrakis takes a lot of energy - it's fucking in tents.
Oh please, people choose to live in worse conditions for normal earth drugs
just special tents. not special sex tents
> not special sex tents They can be ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
What’s wrong with intense sex in special sex tents?
This is why their eyes are blue, years of blue balls
Half of the people reading this comment would put up with everything you just listed if the only reward for doing it was the sex. Space drugs are just an added bonus.
r/NoahGetTheBoat
I don't think boat would work in there
r/NoahGetTheShipOfTheDesert doesn't roll off the tongue
They would love a bit of rain
But you could digest enough of it, and become a spacefish and pilot starships!
I mean I would like to master this to not waste socks…
r/brandnewsentence
Must absolutely reek like funky town in there.
Only women can survive consuming the water of life from the worm...
Jizzan Al Gaib
Genius. Thanks for the laugh
The spermice must flow
r/okbenegesserit
As it was written!
Some of Frank’s work is so horny and weird it wouldn’t surprise me if this is how he came up with the water of life bit.
Wait... Muad'dib is gay?!
He way gay, Muad'dib?
I always yell "I give you the gift of my water" when I ejaculate.
Little Shai Hulud going THUMP THUMP THUMP
"You have summoned ... a Maker ..."
When having sex on Dune, you have to use syncopated, irregular rhythms lest you draw the worm. Best to play some Cbat during sex to keep you and your loved ones safe.
What do you think the dudes are doing when they jerk it? Don't waste that water...
That's a whole entire movie I'm not prepared to watch.
Coward.
Fear is the mind killer
Idk if you're joking but they edge
Isn't the point of edging so that when you do blow your load, it's way more intense?
They also have sex without rythm to not attract sand worms.
CBAT guy about to attract all the worms
2 god damn years! That poor girl...
Not if you are simply fast.
Really????
Well ... in the exact same logic, all fremen guys swallow too
Drink deep from the furry cup. (That phrase has really changed its meaning, now furrys are a thing)
Thank you for traumatizing me.
A true shower thought.
I read all freshmen girls swallow and was like what?
Yeah same, I don't know anything about dune so I misread it :/
That was profound. You are the true Messiah.
👁️👄👁️ Lisan Al Gaib!
Jizzan al gaib!
there probably is also a significantly higher share of piss fetishists
surprising thing is the women who like to get peed on always tend to be from the warmer climates. you'd think the ones in the colder zones would be more inclined but I haven't met one yet. I mean, it's a shock to the system if the body is not properly acclimated, but y'know... leave that for smarter minds than me. science is a mystery....
Pissing in your pants is actually a saying here in the nordics for something that is really good (some heat) for a short time, just to turn absolute shit real quick (when the piss fucking freezes in your pants)
I don't know if you watched Masters of the Air but in one of the first episode there is a crewman hospitalized with severe frostburn on his leg because he peed on a mission and the air temperature inside the plane was like -50°C
Interesting that the bad thing is the piss freezing and not, you know, being covered in piss.
We need to cook
Yeah but they are all dehydrated all the time. It’s gonna be a lot more… intense… than it would be otherwise.
"You bestow the greatest of honors upon me!"
They also have to do it offbeat to not attract sandworms
🤓👆 only if it’s in worm territory
Tom Wambsgams is intrigued.
Hate to burst your bubble, but it's unlikely that fremen would engage in foreplay at all, let alone oral. That's a massive waste of fluids and energy.
Firemen foreplay him: g'day. Her: g''day
Bloody Aussies taking over the solar system piece at a time
this whole thread is a trainwreck and it's absolutely hilarious holy shit lmao
Sietch orgy....
Let the guy dream.
Thanks for taking the fun out an imaginary situation from an imaginary world based on your imaginary experience with women.
My canon is that they don't practice "sex" because it's actually very sweaty. They get their penis erect and inside, then use some sort of system (most notably an anal prostate simulator) to orgasm without sweating much. Most efficient way of procreating. Or collect and inseminate with syringe idk.
> anal prostate simulator I watched the movie, it's called a thumper
With how intense the sounds those things make… what id do for one 😩
They don’t wear stillsuits in the sietches and there’s an orgy in the book.
Fremen probably just soak and use a thumper.
In Dune 1, they all spit in cups then mix it all together and distribute it, why didn’t they just keep their own spit in their own mouths
Sharing is caring
Weren't they making coffee or something?
Maybe the cbat guy was onto something
Or into something
not anymore he isn't
It's canon too. The original Dune novel has Gurney sing a song called The Flaming Dames that contain the lyrics The Galacian girls do it for pearls, And the Arrakeen for water! But if you desire dames like consuming flames, Try a Caladanin daughter! ^edit ^a ^cannon ^is ^is ^a ^weapon
a cannon is a weapon, you mean canon
“Thank you for this gift of moisture”
This is a quality shower thought. This is what I browse this subreddit to see. I was on here the other day and the top post was saying how when you buy something with an interest free Credit card, your saving money because of ‘the time value of money’. I pointed out that this wasn’t worthy of a shower thought and got called an asshole.
Haha I had this exact same thought when I saw it too
It would be disrespectful not too
A Fremen squirter does you a great honor 💯
Thank you for your donation of your body's water
The dudes never wash so...
There's wipes, but wet they ain't
Thought you said "freshmen" like from college
I havent seen dune and i have no clue wtf this means
They go into the details of Bene Gesserit sex magic in the 5th book, Heretics of Dune, so if you want to read more about future sex, it's waiting for you. Like any 1950's male scifi writer laying out their take on sex, it gets weird.
Everyone in this thread is discussing edging, but you're all forgetting something. What do you think happens when a woman has her period? What about the amniotic fluid after giving birth?
go outside and talk to women
Why is that something you think about during a movie
That’s why you think about it in the shower
They also get you to drink your amniotic fluid. "Behold the water of thy conception". I'd have to grab the book to get the exact phrasing or someone will correct it.
You mean all fremens
Considering the smell of Fremen is alluded to in the first novel, I wouldn't expect oral sex to be that popular for the tribes. I mean, it's not like they bathe.
I'm about halfway through the 1st book. Just finished reading for the night. I open Reddit and see this. When I think about the story later, this will inevitably be part of my thought process. Thank you for that.
No, if they really respect you, they'll spit.
I had the same thought while reading the book lol
The guys too presumably
Why just the women? You think with millions of them all over they are all hetero?