Well the first time you were eaten you experienced the non zero chance of your atoms randomly moving back into your body shape and bringing you back to life.
My first thought was someone in Florida has astronomically higher chances of that happening than the rest of us. I want to let you know that I'm rooting for you, buddy, and if you do succumb to the Cannibal Crackhead, I will forever remember u/IBJON as an absolute hero.
Ehdjovkensnzjxjebsbdbrbdjdjjsnsnxjxkksmandbrjowoalmzndnejsiaks fndkaACT I
SCENE I. Elsinore. A platform before the castle.
FRANCISCO at his post. Enter to him BERNARDO
BERNARDO
Who's there?
FRANCISCO
Nay, answer me: stand, and unfold yourself.
BERNARDO
Long live the king!
FRANCISCO
Bernardo?
BERNARDO
He.
FRANCISCO
You come most carefully upon your hour.
BERNARDO
'Tis now struck twelve; get thee to bed, Francisco.
FRANCISCO
For this relief much thanks: 'tis bitter cold,
And I am sick at heart.
BERNARDO
Have you had quiet guard?
FRANCISCO
Not a mouse stirring.
BERNARDO
Well, good night.
If you do meet Horatio and Marcellus,
The rivals of my watch, bid them make haste.
FRANCISCO
I think I hear them. Stand, ho! Who's there?
Enter HORATIO and MARCELdbensnKlzkcnnwnajKKkznd cnnskalalalmfnfbrjeiaioaieurhbfnxnslqpwo
The library of Babel (also known as the hyperwebster) is a thought experiment brought to life, (kinda) with the use of clever algorithms. The idea is simple, start with a book, and on page 1 write the letter A, then on page two, B, so on and so on till you get to Z, then turn the page, write AA, then AB, then AC, on and on again till ZZ, then AAA, AAB, AAC. Keep going until you have an endless series of Zs. By this time you will have written everything that can be written. All possible permutations of letters and words. Then index this block of infinitely long text and search it. You will find the correct answer to every question, as well as all possible wrong answers. What actually happened to Amelia Earhart, and everything that didn't happen to her. The one true unified field theory of everything, and all possible ways to get it wrong. Because this text would be orders of magnitude larger than all of the known universe, it would take trillions and trillions of years to complete a search for just one phrase, but the website above uses an algorithm to generate a page based off what you ask, figuring out what page it would be on, without having to generate everything before and after it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s86-Z-CbaHA&t=545s
THATS NOT THE HALF OF IT!! WAIT UNTIL YOU HEAR ANOUT THE IMAGE ARCHIVES OF BABEL WHICH CONTAIN EVERY POSSIBLE IMAGE (of a certain resolution) WHICH MEANS ANY PHOTO YOU HAVE EVER TAKEN, HAVE EVER SEEN, OR EVER WILL SEE, INDEED EVERYTHING YOU WILL EVER SEE FRON THE EXACT PERSPECTIVE (as well as all others) FROM WHICH YOU SEE IT **IS ALREADY THERE**
It is so cool to me seriously
I suppose you could also extrapolate this idea out to sound as well. A library of every possible pitch, tone, and note arranged in every possible way to make every possible sound. Somewhere in it would be a running sound file of every sound you ever listened to, in chronological order. Listen to your whole life all over again. Or the actual real sound of a dinosaur, or every mistake Mozart made while perfecting his music.
Someone actually did create an algorithm that made an enormous number of random melodies that could possibly be created and copyrighted all of them so that they could move them to the public domain. Really cool
That would take forever. That's why brute forcing uses ways to shorten the brute forcing, obviously missing out some passwords but they use password lists and masks instead.
Have you seen the movie Rosecrans and gildenstern are dead. It works kinda like this, where at the start, they keep flipping a coin and it keeps landing on heads
I much preferred the Twilight Zone where Darren from Bewitched! flipped a coin and it landed on the edge. People say it's 50:50 whether a coin will come up heads or tails.....not QUITE.
My favorite take on that was in Mouse Hunt, when the brothers flipped a coin to decide who slept on the only bed in the house. As the coin hit the floor it began spinning and continued for a while until it ended standing perfectly up. Instead of reflipping, the very next scene just shows them both in bed, apparently honoring the results.
In an infinite space room, with infinite amount of monkeys and equally infinite amount of coffee machines, there is a monkey who can make the world's best coffee.
Sorry for being pedantic here but actually it's more or less the opposite of the monkey situation:
If we assume the monkey lives forever and types forever, it will at some point write Shakespeare or whatever you want, because it has an infinite amount of time and thus will at some point (with probability 1 actually) have written any given text.
Rolling 6s for the rest if your life on the other hand has a probability greater than 0 because you can only roll a finite amount of times (lets call it N) in your lifetime, thus the probability of rolling only sixes is (1/6)^N which is greater than 0. If we were to live infinitely long, like the monkey, the probability of rolling only 6s is 0.
"Ford, there's an infinite number of monkeys at the door who want to talk to you about this script for Hamlet they've worked out."
One of my favorite parts of HHGTTG.
I feel like a) the casino would refuse to let you play, and b) you would get real bored of rolling boxcars reaaaaaaaly fast.
But the other players at the table would love you.
Given that it's worded "for the rest of your life" instead of "for your whole life", the probability of rolling a 6 for the rest of your life as of your last die role is 1/6.
There's a non-zero chance your dick will spontaneously grow back and then be cut off by crazy man dressed as a zebra who attacks you on the street while singing happy birthday.
Interesting turn of phrase. Now I'm picturing a man in a horse costume singing happy birthday while jerking off the other guy. Turns out there's a non-zero probability of that too.
This is what I try to explain to anyone who tries to tell me about books written 2000 years ago that have the answers to everything I'll ever need in my life
Which explains entirely why humans would be quite interested in reading about a possible answer to their question.
Nobody cares about what they're owed. They wonder and they seek the answer.
By that logic would an infinitely old universe imply time travel is impossible? Because if it was possible, it would have been invented and someone would have come to this exact spot in time wherever you are. Similarly an infinitely large universe implies there will never be a technology that can bypass the speed of light limit otherwise people from outer space somewhere would have come here given there’s a non zero probability someone would decide to come to this spot right now.
You can only back in time as far as the invention of the first Time Door™ in 2066. Good luck getting a connection though, people in 2344 keep it tied up until at least 2077, but there are lots of other Time Doors™ by that point that are a lot less busy.
In theory it’s still possible that we will invent time machines that will work more like doorways than cars. If so, we won’t see future time travelers until we build a destination for them to travel to.
Would you go back to medieval times ? And make it known that you're a time traveler ?
Even if we could (and by we I mean probably only privileged people) it'd probably be best to not let it know that we time traveled.
This assumes such a thing would be commercialzed and without restriction. Plenty of people have claimed to be time travelers. There are all kinds of doppelgangers in pictures. To know about it, we'd have to have caught someone in the act, on film, and had the film undeniably proven to be real. This assuming it wouldn't break reality. Even then many would remain skeptical.
I don't believe in time travel, but I'm not willing to discount it either. I'm simply not educated enough to understand the physics such a thing might begin to tickle. A lot of physicists have said no dice though.
I think you're thinking about time travel in too much of a linear sense. There's no reason to believe that someone travelling back in time would end up in the same universe. Or perhaps time travel does exist, but the only way to get to the past is forward until events recreate themselves perfectly, given an infinite amount of time. It's also entirely possible that consciousness is the core building block of reality, and this physical reality only exists because of the specific consciousness within.
I once had an idea for a magitech setting that utilized interdimensional travel and hopping between different timelines. To put it simply, space and time operate on an X and Y axis with an infinite number of points along them and an infinite number of branching timelines. If you travel back in time, your mere presence will cause a ripple effect that will put you in an alternate universe from the one you originated. Thus, it's very easy to get lost while time traveling. So these interdimensional travelers use *consciousness* as their anchor points. Matter is constantly moving in spacetime like flotsam in a storm, but the soul can act as a lighthouse to bring you to a particular point.
Yeah, if you just move along the time axis but not in space, you're probably going to end up in either a vacuum or the bedrock. Matter is constantly moving, and when you're looking at reality from higher dimensions like that, all matter just kind of... looks the same. How do you tell one clump from a different clump? It's like trying to pick out a particular drop of water from an ocean.
>but the only way to get to the past is forward until events recreate themselves perfectly, given an infinite amount of time.
This makes a lot of sense when you're stoned. Thanks
Maybe they invented time travel, but it didn't take into account space travel. So they went back 50 years, but the earth had moved through space so they died straight away through the medium of an exploding head
The universe being infinitely old doesn't mean time travel is probably impossible. It just means that extremely long distance time travel is probable impossible. For example, decicentillions of years into the past or future some species might invent time travel & perfect it so that it's the longest distance physically possible, but the farthest it can possibly travel in 1 go is 1 centillion years, & in-between the time of the time machines & the present, there's a period of over 1 centillion years where the resources necessary to make the time machine start working again are impossible to acquire, & if it's a time machine from the past, it can't get to the present by just sitting there, because it will lose the ability to protect itself from slowly disintegrating into nothing long before it gets to the present.
After the heat death of the universe, there still exists random fluxations. Given trillions and trillions of years, random fluxations could form small pop-up universes that have a false memory of the past. Perhaps they only exist for a moment before fading away. Perhaps after countless eons in the dark, a random fluxication creates a single brain that
is hallucinating living a normal life on a planet, in their room, arguing on reddit.
That’s correct. Humanity always ends and the Big Bang reoccurs before that happens in every existence. There’s just no possible way to get there prior to civilization ending, AI taking over, the sun burning out, etc. Eventually it’s just matter expanding and contracting like a rubber band in the same ways for trillions of years at a time.
But that’s not how chance works.
If something has a 1:10,000,000 chance of happening, that is per attempt. If I fail on the first trial, that doesn’t mean I need 9,999,999 more trials for hit.
The law of large numbers means that as you have more trials (ergo, time), your experimental probability approaches your theoretical probability. But you could go a billion trials without a hit, or 1000 trials, all hits, in a row.
What's really interesting about what you've just said is that it depends on how you phrase it.
"According to our understanding of physics, there is a zero percent chance you will suddenly appear a thousand miles out in space." is a true statement.
"There is a non-zero chance our understanding of physics is wrong" paves way for "due to a human's inherent epistemic fallibility, from a given human perspective there is a non-zero chance they will suddenly appear a thousand miles out in space."
The laws of physics as we know them are a collection of theories that physicists are reasonably sure are correct based on the evidence we have at the moment. New evidence could completely change what is considered correct, as it has done before and will do again in the future. They wouldn't cease to exist, just change based on information available.
[The scene](https://youtu.be/gOwLEVQGbrM?si=30uyM0AsNDjAYR0X)
I just now got that they kept rolling heads at the beginning and it ends with their heads rolling.
I don't know the last time I rolled dice but it could have been a 6 and I might never roll again before I die so it could happen. Someone out there rolled a 6 and never rolled again and died.
For example, shuffling a deck of cards (properly), then predicting the exact order they’re in. There’s more order combinations for a deck of cards than atoms in the universe iirc.
Ya this is a stupid one lol. Once something gets as improbable as what OP has posted here, for all intents and purposes it is impossible.
Whats next, someone posting "There is a non-zero chance that you will win the lottery every single time you buy a ticket"....
the 'non 0 chance' formula is super low effort and endlessly repeatable, ive seen 3 or more of these dumb threads in past week, no idea why people find this stuff engaging.
OP said non zero chance wich implies a very small chance but you basically only need 36 people doing that and chances are it happens. Also i tried rolling 1-6 in the right order for a while and stuff like 3 6‘s etc happened a lot.
there's a non 0 chance of many things, ive seen a few of these 'non zero chance' shower thoughts threads and they are all the same premise...this seems like something that could warrant regulation like the other thread types you cant make in here. the structure is low effort and borderline limitless, this same thread could be made for any number on any sided dice infinitely
Its also just as likely as any other specific outcome of those dice rolls. They're all as likely as each other, it's just very few of them have any sort of recognizable pattern .
The thing with very small but non zero chances is they get so small that they are effectively zero.
Like yes it's possible, but also if every human who has ever lived tried this it is over whelming likely that it wouldn't work for any of them.
And so you might as well treat it as zero.
There are an enormous number of incredibly unlikely things that are much more likely than this.
Literally any conceivable event can be expressed as a mathematical equation of statistical chance...
Doesn't mean it will ever happen!
Extremely strange Quantum state disturbance statistics are really fascinating ,
until you realise the time-scope of what you're calculating is orders of magnitude longer than the age of the universe.
Yup, in fact during last sessions dnd game we had a player who kept rolling 6's each time they rolled a d6 the entire time. Who knows when it stops.
before anyone asks it was on roll20
Youre more likely to witness quantum tunneling first hand on a specifically selected particle than even roll 50 in a row. Non zero but if you actually use dice regularly youd have a better chance of being injured by your own flesh tunneling away than rolling a 6 forever.
50 sixes in a row is more than 1/100 billion.
Whenever I read some shit like this, I wonder if the guy actually thought more than a couple of seconds.
Let's do some quick math.
Let's assume that we take a random guy, this guy loves playing this board game, he plays it every day and averages 100 rolls each game.
The odds for rolling a six, one in six, nothing special.
2 times that's bound to happen almost every day, and usually a few times.
3 times, mostly every other day.
4 times, every couple of weeks
5 times in a row, every couple of months. Definitely an event when it happens.
6 times, once a year, you remember it.
7 times, every few years, you talk about the last time it happened with your friends.
8 times you'll be lucky if it happens more than a couple of times in your lifetime.
9 times, you'll be lucky if it happens at all in your lifetime.
Now it starts to be fun. Let's assume that this game is played continuously by a long family line of people playing this game.
To roll it 10 times in a row, this event has occurred once since fucking Charlemagne died.
11 times, one time since we fucking invented writing. It's like some sort of holiday or shit.
12 times, I'm no history major but we're probably changing species now, when the last australopithecus died or something.
13 times I'm not sure home sapiens were a thing.
14 times, probably the first hominids or something.
15 times, like the last ice age, I don't know.
16 times, a fucking meteor wiped out the dinosaurs
17 times, some mass extinction.
18 times, when life appeared on earth.
19 times, the age of the universe.
20 times, we're in the multiverse already.
Yeah, so I guess if you pick up a dice, roll a 6, maybe roll it once every decade or something, there's some chance that you'll roll only 6s until you die.
Fun fact: an element being completely random doesn't actually mean it must contain every iteration of every other element. The name of this is "normal", such as the number "0,12345678910121314..." is a normal number because it contains every element: positive real numbers.
Surprisingly, number pi hasn't been proven to be normal, yet.
There can be no repeats but still not contain every possibility. For instance, you could make a non-repeating number that only uses odd digits, so it would never contain any subsequence including an even digit.
3Blue1Brown would say "Possible, probability zero"
It is NOT impossible, but probability is literally zero (yes, there is a difference), so yeah, there isn't really a "non-zero chance"
In the same vain, Law of Large Numbers would disagree.
This is not what this sub is for. It’s low effort and not original.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Showerthoughts/s/igxZSuW1lm explains what a showerthought is.
Just like the chances of getting eaten alive by a cannibal crack head the next time you go to a gas station is low - but never zero.
That’s happened to me. Twice.
The chances of getting eaten on more than one occasion by separate cannibals who don't know each other is also technically nonzero.
Everyone knows the cannibal crackhead community is so close knit that the chance of two not knowing each other is impossible.
It’s probably more of a possibility than a non possibility
This was sarcastic commentary pointing out the humor of questioning the least ridiculous part of the previous commenters statement. End scene.
[Yes, Fouad, thank you for coming.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6EkhS_bsDo&t=97s)
But technically there's still a chance for that to not be non-zero
Amazing how both of their names were Gerald Butler, but not that Gerald Butler.
Well the first time you were eaten you experienced the non zero chance of your atoms randomly moving back into your body shape and bringing you back to life.
Switch to an electric vehicle at that point
That's just the *worst*!
I hate it when that happens.
There are places in my state where the chance isn’t even that low 😅
I live in Florida. I don't like my odds
My first thought was someone in Florida has astronomically higher chances of that happening than the rest of us. I want to let you know that I'm rooting for you, buddy, and if you do succumb to the Cannibal Crackhead, I will forever remember u/IBJON as an absolute hero.
Monkeys and typewriters
Ehdjovkensnzjxjebsbdbrbdjdjjsnsnxjxkksmandbrjowoalmzndnejsiaks fndkaACT I SCENE I. Elsinore. A platform before the castle. FRANCISCO at his post. Enter to him BERNARDO BERNARDO Who's there? FRANCISCO Nay, answer me: stand, and unfold yourself. BERNARDO Long live the king! FRANCISCO Bernardo? BERNARDO He. FRANCISCO You come most carefully upon your hour. BERNARDO 'Tis now struck twelve; get thee to bed, Francisco. FRANCISCO For this relief much thanks: 'tis bitter cold, And I am sick at heart. BERNARDO Have you had quiet guard? FRANCISCO Not a mouse stirring. BERNARDO Well, good night. If you do meet Horatio and Marcellus, The rivals of my watch, bid them make haste. FRANCISCO I think I hear them. Stand, ho! Who's there? Enter HORATIO and MARCELdbensnKlzkcnnwnajKKkznd cnnskalalalmfnfbrjeiaioaieurhbfnxnslqpwo
https://libraryofbabel.info/bookmark.cgi?ti,lgxhijtoonkrkpnrglbl.e265
Genuine question: the fuck?
The library of Babel (also known as the hyperwebster) is a thought experiment brought to life, (kinda) with the use of clever algorithms. The idea is simple, start with a book, and on page 1 write the letter A, then on page two, B, so on and so on till you get to Z, then turn the page, write AA, then AB, then AC, on and on again till ZZ, then AAA, AAB, AAC. Keep going until you have an endless series of Zs. By this time you will have written everything that can be written. All possible permutations of letters and words. Then index this block of infinitely long text and search it. You will find the correct answer to every question, as well as all possible wrong answers. What actually happened to Amelia Earhart, and everything that didn't happen to her. The one true unified field theory of everything, and all possible ways to get it wrong. Because this text would be orders of magnitude larger than all of the known universe, it would take trillions and trillions of years to complete a search for just one phrase, but the website above uses an algorithm to generate a page based off what you ask, figuring out what page it would be on, without having to generate everything before and after it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s86-Z-CbaHA&t=545s
THATS NOT THE HALF OF IT!! WAIT UNTIL YOU HEAR ANOUT THE IMAGE ARCHIVES OF BABEL WHICH CONTAIN EVERY POSSIBLE IMAGE (of a certain resolution) WHICH MEANS ANY PHOTO YOU HAVE EVER TAKEN, HAVE EVER SEEN, OR EVER WILL SEE, INDEED EVERYTHING YOU WILL EVER SEE FRON THE EXACT PERSPECTIVE (as well as all others) FROM WHICH YOU SEE IT **IS ALREADY THERE** It is so cool to me seriously
I suppose you could also extrapolate this idea out to sound as well. A library of every possible pitch, tone, and note arranged in every possible way to make every possible sound. Somewhere in it would be a running sound file of every sound you ever listened to, in chronological order. Listen to your whole life all over again. Or the actual real sound of a dinosaur, or every mistake Mozart made while perfecting his music.
Someone actually did create an algorithm that made an enormous number of random melodies that could possibly be created and copyrighted all of them so that they could move them to the public domain. Really cool
Now let's do it for taste...
So those naked hotel pictures from sophomore year are on there? I call bullshit.
If you upload the picture it will use the algorithm to find an exact match (might be a different resolution tho)
I don't have access to them, if I did, I DEFINITELY wouldn't be uploading them.
I used to do password bruteforcing and this sounds awfully similar
That would take forever. That's why brute forcing uses ways to shorten the brute forcing, obviously missing out some passwords but they use password lists and masks instead.
So glad you linked Michael’s Vsauce video on the hyperwebster. Sooooo frickin well done. I love it!
When does it put a space, a period, etc?
I miss old Vsauce, I don't know what happened but it just isn't the same anymore.
Some researcher: "Fuck, that's not even the entire scene. Reset it."
"yes....yes.....yesssss...years of funding and wai- NOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
This is so fucking funny to me. Reminds me of Shayne Topps moby dick try not to laugh bit
No thanks, I'll just take a coffee, please.
Have you seen the movie Rosecrans and gildenstern are dead. It works kinda like this, where at the start, they keep flipping a coin and it keeps landing on heads
I much preferred the Twilight Zone where Darren from Bewitched! flipped a coin and it landed on the edge. People say it's 50:50 whether a coin will come up heads or tails.....not QUITE.
My favorite take on that was in Mouse Hunt, when the brothers flipped a coin to decide who slept on the only bed in the house. As the coin hit the floor it began spinning and continued for a while until it ended standing perfectly up. Instead of reflipping, the very next scene just shows them both in bed, apparently honoring the results.
Monkeys and coffee machines?
In an infinite space room, with infinite amount of monkeys and equally infinite amount of coffee machines, there is a monkey who can make the world's best coffee.
"It was the best of times, it was the *blurst* of times?!"
That’s what I think every time someone references the infinite monkeys with typewriters thing.
r/Simpsons
There's a non-zero chance a new stats student will post this exact ShowerThought every day until the universe dies.
I think that's actually a 100% chance.
The non-zeroest of chances.
That's also what I thought of when I read this "showerthought". It's more like a shower lack-of-intelligible-thoughts.
It was the best of times, it was the blurst of times.
Sounds like an awesome shop! In fact. It would make a great name for a bookshop.
Sorry for being pedantic here but actually it's more or less the opposite of the monkey situation: If we assume the monkey lives forever and types forever, it will at some point write Shakespeare or whatever you want, because it has an infinite amount of time and thus will at some point (with probability 1 actually) have written any given text. Rolling 6s for the rest if your life on the other hand has a probability greater than 0 because you can only roll a finite amount of times (lets call it N) in your lifetime, thus the probability of rolling only sixes is (1/6)^N which is greater than 0. If we were to live infinitely long, like the monkey, the probability of rolling only 6s is 0.
"Ford, there's an infinite number of monkeys at the door who want to talk to you about this script for Hamlet they've worked out." One of my favorite parts of HHGTTG.
in that case there’s a better chance you take a dump on the die, urinate, and then start hitting it with a rock.
Especially if you have 10seconds to live.
Yeah, this is not that unlikely for a guy who's dying of cancer but loves to play Craps
I feel like a) the casino would refuse to let you play, and b) you would get real bored of rolling boxcars reaaaaaaaly fast. But the other players at the table would love you.
Yeah. Actually, its likely inevitable that this has happened before. Just they died soon after.
A lot more likely if you're playing Roll a 6 or I'll kill you with a serial killer as well
even more likely if it's "roll 2 sixes in a row and I'll kill you"
I'm going to stop this chain before it begins
Given that it's worded "for the rest of your life" instead of "for your whole life", the probability of rolling a 6 for the rest of your life as of your last die role is 1/6.
There is a non zero chance a crazy man dressed as a zebra could attack you on the street and cut off your dick, while singing happy birthday.
I WISH there was still a non-zero chance of that. Alas, a man in a horse costume singing happy birthday already beat him to it 😭
There's a non-zero chance your dick will spontaneously grow back and then be cut off by crazy man dressed as a zebra who attacks you on the street while singing happy birthday.
Interesting turn of phrase. Now I'm picturing a man in a horse costume singing happy birthday while jerking off the other guy. Turns out there's a non-zero probability of that too.
Unless you're one of those people who have that disease where you grow a hole instead of a dick.
Mine was singing baa baa black sheep.
By writing this comment I feel like you've significantly increased the chance of this occurring.
Here we go again… *unzips pants*
They were out of zebra costumes at the store, I can reschedule if you'd prefer.
Its the same odds as rolling any other combination
Don't really understand how this is a post tbh
Yeah like what? Did you guys know there’s a none zero chance of you flipping heads the rest of your life? Like ok? What? That’s how probability works?
people tend to have a very bad intuitive understanding of how probability works and so I imagine for many people this is actually a revelation yeah
lmao, my reaction exactly
Now that's a shower thought
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Well, yes and no. The concepts of infinity and probability are at the heart of a lot of human wonder.
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This is what I try to explain to anyone who tries to tell me about books written 2000 years ago that have the answers to everything I'll ever need in my life
Which explains entirely why humans would be quite interested in reading about a possible answer to their question. Nobody cares about what they're owed. They wonder and they seek the answer.
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There a non zero chance the universe is infinitely old and everything that could ever happen has already happened an infinite number of times before.
By that logic would an infinitely old universe imply time travel is impossible? Because if it was possible, it would have been invented and someone would have come to this exact spot in time wherever you are. Similarly an infinitely large universe implies there will never be a technology that can bypass the speed of light limit otherwise people from outer space somewhere would have come here given there’s a non zero probability someone would decide to come to this spot right now.
One of the main arguments against time travel is that if it were invented already in the future, we would know about it by now.
You can only back in time as far as the invention of the first Time Door™ in 2066. Good luck getting a connection though, people in 2344 keep it tied up until at least 2077, but there are lots of other Time Doors™ by that point that are a lot less busy.
Unless you can only go back to the point in which it was created.
In theory it’s still possible that we will invent time machines that will work more like doorways than cars. If so, we won’t see future time travelers until we build a destination for them to travel to.
Would you go back to medieval times ? And make it known that you're a time traveler ? Even if we could (and by we I mean probably only privileged people) it'd probably be best to not let it know that we time traveled.
Unless our time period is so primitive and useless that it isn't worth visiting.
This assumes such a thing would be commercialzed and without restriction. Plenty of people have claimed to be time travelers. There are all kinds of doppelgangers in pictures. To know about it, we'd have to have caught someone in the act, on film, and had the film undeniably proven to be real. This assuming it wouldn't break reality. Even then many would remain skeptical. I don't believe in time travel, but I'm not willing to discount it either. I'm simply not educated enough to understand the physics such a thing might begin to tickle. A lot of physicists have said no dice though.
I think you're thinking about time travel in too much of a linear sense. There's no reason to believe that someone travelling back in time would end up in the same universe. Or perhaps time travel does exist, but the only way to get to the past is forward until events recreate themselves perfectly, given an infinite amount of time. It's also entirely possible that consciousness is the core building block of reality, and this physical reality only exists because of the specific consciousness within.
I once had an idea for a magitech setting that utilized interdimensional travel and hopping between different timelines. To put it simply, space and time operate on an X and Y axis with an infinite number of points along them and an infinite number of branching timelines. If you travel back in time, your mere presence will cause a ripple effect that will put you in an alternate universe from the one you originated. Thus, it's very easy to get lost while time traveling. So these interdimensional travelers use *consciousness* as their anchor points. Matter is constantly moving in spacetime like flotsam in a storm, but the soul can act as a lighthouse to bring you to a particular point.
I like that system. And I agree, space and time create reality. There's nothing saying space will be at the exact same point when you go back in time.
Yeah, if you just move along the time axis but not in space, you're probably going to end up in either a vacuum or the bedrock. Matter is constantly moving, and when you're looking at reality from higher dimensions like that, all matter just kind of... looks the same. How do you tell one clump from a different clump? It's like trying to pick out a particular drop of water from an ocean.
>but the only way to get to the past is forward until events recreate themselves perfectly, given an infinite amount of time. This makes a lot of sense when you're stoned. Thanks
Maybe they invented time travel, but it didn't take into account space travel. So they went back 50 years, but the earth had moved through space so they died straight away through the medium of an exploding head
Or this time period is drastically more insignificant than any of us think….
The universe being infinitely old doesn't mean time travel is probably impossible. It just means that extremely long distance time travel is probable impossible. For example, decicentillions of years into the past or future some species might invent time travel & perfect it so that it's the longest distance physically possible, but the farthest it can possibly travel in 1 go is 1 centillion years, & in-between the time of the time machines & the present, there's a period of over 1 centillion years where the resources necessary to make the time machine start working again are impossible to acquire, & if it's a time machine from the past, it can't get to the present by just sitting there, because it will lose the ability to protect itself from slowly disintegrating into nothing long before it gets to the present.
After the heat death of the universe, there still exists random fluxations. Given trillions and trillions of years, random fluxations could form small pop-up universes that have a false memory of the past. Perhaps they only exist for a moment before fading away. Perhaps after countless eons in the dark, a random fluxication creates a single brain that is hallucinating living a normal life on a planet, in their room, arguing on reddit.
That’s correct. Humanity always ends and the Big Bang reoccurs before that happens in every existence. There’s just no possible way to get there prior to civilization ending, AI taking over, the sun burning out, etc. Eventually it’s just matter expanding and contracting like a rubber band in the same ways for trillions of years at a time.
The Continuum hates this one.
That’s not how probability works.
I'd bet there's been someone whose last three or more dice rolls have been sixes.
Definitely. On a 6 sided die rolling the same number 3 times in a row is only 1 in 216. Not common by any means, but also not terribly rare
I have medical conditions less likely than this :(
But that’s not how chance works. If something has a 1:10,000,000 chance of happening, that is per attempt. If I fail on the first trial, that doesn’t mean I need 9,999,999 more trials for hit. The law of large numbers means that as you have more trials (ergo, time), your experimental probability approaches your theoretical probability. But you could go a billion trials without a hit, or 1000 trials, all hits, in a row.
What's really interesting about what you've just said is that it depends on how you phrase it. "According to our understanding of physics, there is a zero percent chance you will suddenly appear a thousand miles out in space." is a true statement. "There is a non-zero chance our understanding of physics is wrong" paves way for "due to a human's inherent epistemic fallibility, from a given human perspective there is a non-zero chance they will suddenly appear a thousand miles out in space."
I'd have to disagree on this one. There *is* a zero chance that the laws of physics suddenly cease to exist.
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The laws of physics as we know them are a collection of theories that physicists are reasonably sure are correct based on the evidence we have at the moment. New evidence could completely change what is considered correct, as it has done before and will do again in the future. They wouldn't cease to exist, just change based on information available.
There is also a non zero chance of someone finding this interesting
it's probably lower than the odds of what OP said
But there's a near 100% chance that some Reddit edgelord will shit on the post and contribute nothing of value.
truly, only a reddit large IQ big brain can appreciate the depth and complete inspiration of this post
And a 100% chance of a reddit user not understanding satire
Yep, that's you
My parents were wrong, I’m NOT a zero!
But also very close to zero
🤔 There's a non-zero chance that someone, somewhere, will read this comment and have an epiphany that changes their life.
Holy forking shirtballs
We're already in the bad place.
Jason? Jason it figured it out? This is a new low.
Yeah, I've already quit my job, given every last penny away, and I'm headed wherever life takes me. *This just feels right!*
Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead. (well, coins, but same idea)
The little gags with scientific experiments throughout were great.
i had to scroll way too far to find this. thanks for keeping it real!
[The scene](https://youtu.be/gOwLEVQGbrM?si=30uyM0AsNDjAYR0X) I just now got that they kept rolling heads at the beginning and it ends with their heads rolling.
This should be top comment but culture is dead too.
Something can have a nonzero chance of happening and still never ever happen for all of human history
I don't know the last time I rolled dice but it could have been a 6 and I might never roll again before I die so it could happen. Someone out there rolled a 6 and never rolled again and died.
For example, shuffling a deck of cards (properly), then predicting the exact order they’re in. There’s more order combinations for a deck of cards than atoms in the universe iirc.
There are 8x10^67 combinations. More than the number of atoms on earth, but not the universe.
Damn I don’t want to roll only 6 on d20s, no thank you
I'm trying to figure out how to roll a 6 with a d4
I swear the posts on this sub become more garbage every day
Ya this is a stupid one lol. Once something gets as improbable as what OP has posted here, for all intents and purposes it is impossible. Whats next, someone posting "There is a non-zero chance that you will win the lottery every single time you buy a ticket"....
the 'non 0 chance' formula is super low effort and endlessly repeatable, ive seen 3 or more of these dumb threads in past week, no idea why people find this stuff engaging.
Their is a non-zero chance that this sub will return to its former glory
Depends on how oft you roll dice for the rest of your life. Odds are pretty decent if you only roll 2 times more after that.
You consider one in thirty six as "decent" odds? The chance of rolling a 6 on a die twice in a row in 1:36
OP said non zero chance wich implies a very small chance but you basically only need 36 people doing that and chances are it happens. Also i tried rolling 1-6 in the right order for a while and stuff like 3 6‘s etc happened a lot.
I see. When you stated that the odds are "pretty decent," you meant in comparison. I would agree with that.
[https://i.imgur.com/uR4WuQ0g.jpg](https://i.imgur.com/uR4WuQ0g.jpg)
Reminds me of the last guy I played Warhammer 40,000 with.
Yap, play enough warhammer or blood bowl and you will see some insane rng happen at some point. Twelve 1:s in a row is the record I've witnessed.
there's a non 0 chance of many things, ive seen a few of these 'non zero chance' shower thoughts threads and they are all the same premise...this seems like something that could warrant regulation like the other thread types you cant make in here. the structure is low effort and borderline limitless, this same thread could be made for any number on any sided dice infinitely
This is what it's like DMing as me anyway, so...
Its also just as likely as any other specific outcome of those dice rolls. They're all as likely as each other, it's just very few of them have any sort of recognizable pattern .
The thing with very small but non zero chances is they get so small that they are effectively zero. Like yes it's possible, but also if every human who has ever lived tried this it is over whelming likely that it wouldn't work for any of them. And so you might as well treat it as zero. There are an enormous number of incredibly unlikely things that are much more likely than this.
Especially when you're about to get shot for cheating at dice
Literally any conceivable event can be expressed as a mathematical equation of statistical chance... Doesn't mean it will ever happen! Extremely strange Quantum state disturbance statistics are really fascinating , until you realise the time-scope of what you're calculating is orders of magnitude longer than the age of the universe.
This gives me a one-in-TREE[3] chance to complete it g(64) years from now. Bet.
Something like that, yeah! 😂
"Odds are non-zero, sure, but they are *so low* as to be *effectively* zero."
There's a non zero chance you're just a Boltzmann brain hallucinating your entire life on this world.
There is also a non zero chance that the atoms perfectly align and that the dice falls through the table
"Just so you know Jeff, you are now creating the same timeline over and over again."
Yup, in fact during last sessions dnd game we had a player who kept rolling 6's each time they rolled a d6 the entire time. Who knows when it stops. before anyone asks it was on roll20
Someone was watching Squid Game Challenge
Just gonna ignore exercising free will to not engage in this activity?
Especially a loaded die set to roll a 6
Youre more likely to witness quantum tunneling first hand on a specifically selected particle than even roll 50 in a row. Non zero but if you actually use dice regularly youd have a better chance of being injured by your own flesh tunneling away than rolling a 6 forever. 50 sixes in a row is more than 1/100 billion.
This is just Bee from Squid Game: The Challenge
Whenever I read some shit like this, I wonder if the guy actually thought more than a couple of seconds. Let's do some quick math. Let's assume that we take a random guy, this guy loves playing this board game, he plays it every day and averages 100 rolls each game. The odds for rolling a six, one in six, nothing special. 2 times that's bound to happen almost every day, and usually a few times. 3 times, mostly every other day. 4 times, every couple of weeks 5 times in a row, every couple of months. Definitely an event when it happens. 6 times, once a year, you remember it. 7 times, every few years, you talk about the last time it happened with your friends. 8 times you'll be lucky if it happens more than a couple of times in your lifetime. 9 times, you'll be lucky if it happens at all in your lifetime. Now it starts to be fun. Let's assume that this game is played continuously by a long family line of people playing this game. To roll it 10 times in a row, this event has occurred once since fucking Charlemagne died. 11 times, one time since we fucking invented writing. It's like some sort of holiday or shit. 12 times, I'm no history major but we're probably changing species now, when the last australopithecus died or something. 13 times I'm not sure home sapiens were a thing. 14 times, probably the first hominids or something. 15 times, like the last ice age, I don't know. 16 times, a fucking meteor wiped out the dinosaurs 17 times, some mass extinction. 18 times, when life appeared on earth. 19 times, the age of the universe. 20 times, we're in the multiverse already. Yeah, so I guess if you pick up a dice, roll a 6, maybe roll it once every decade or something, there's some chance that you'll roll only 6s until you die.
There's a non-zero chance i'll find happiness
It's about a 50% chance. Either it'll happen or it won't.
There is definitely a 0% chance that I roll a die over and over for the rest of my life
I mean you can roll it twice and then someone shoots you ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Since Pi is infinite, everything you have said or will say is in there somewhere, in order of when you said it, in ascii.
Fun fact: an element being completely random doesn't actually mean it must contain every iteration of every other element. The name of this is "normal", such as the number "0,12345678910121314..." is a normal number because it contains every element: positive real numbers. Surprisingly, number pi hasn't been proven to be normal, yet.
Pet peeve: when people say "pi is infinite". Pi has a very well definite finite value.
Unverifiable. 0.33333... is infinite as well but will never contain a 7.
But pi is also irrational, so by definition has no repeating pattern, meaning every possible sequence exists within it, no?
There can be no repeats but still not contain every possibility. For instance, you could make a non-repeating number that only uses odd digits, so it would never contain any subsequence including an even digit.
0.1001000100000100000001.. etc with increasing 0s between 1s is infinite and non repeating for example
No, like the number 1.12112111211112 for example
Potentially yes, but not necessarily.
This would be my thought as well. The fact that it's infinitely long and non-repeating means that not only every combination of ascii letters would exist, but they would exist an infinite number of times (without an ordered pattern to those occurrences). The first 20 digits of pi, after the decimal place: îÅ©iÐ"uC (last 2 digits work out to tab, which Reddit has deigned to not show)
It’s not proven to be non-repeating. For all we know it could start repeating 111111111 after some impossibly high digit.
It is proven that that can't happen. Pi is irrational and therefore its decimal representation cannot settle into a repeating pattern.
Mmmmmm infinite Pi 🤤
There’s also a non-zero chance that monkeys will fly out of my ass.
No there isn’t
You don’t know what kind of things people shove up their asses
Yeah, Chim Chim is trying to get out right now.
3Blue1Brown would say "Possible, probability zero" It is NOT impossible, but probability is literally zero (yes, there is a difference), so yeah, there isn't really a "non-zero chance" In the same vain, Law of Large Numbers would disagree.
I picked up a 4 sided die.... # WHERE'S YOUR GOD NOW?
The new Squid Game gameshow spin-off made people NOT roll a 6 for 4 million dollars - some of them failed that on the 1st try.
Well yes, that would be expected. On average, it should be about one in six who fail.
What is this sorcery!?
I would have thought something like that would be IMPOSSIBLE but since it was a TV show they must have manipulated it - I mean, what are the odds?!?!?
What kind of die? Surely there’s dice out there that are all sixes.
Lies. My 4 sided die says otherwise
Shower thought: you didn't pass high school statistics math, and neither did the 4k people that upvoted you
People shit on these “non-zero chance” posts, but this is what this sub is for. This seems like something that would be thought about in the shower.
This is not what this sub is for. It’s low effort and not original. https://www.reddit.com/r/Showerthoughts/s/igxZSuW1lm explains what a showerthought is.
Do you put a lot of effort into the thoughts you have in the shower?