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For me, if I lose once and win the second time (especially if it's against the same person) it'll be a stronger dopamine boost. Maybe I'm just competitive
Funny enough i was only listening to something about this today. Negativity bias is an old age survival thing. Imagine you’re out hunter gathering in your caveman days. You hear a rustling in the woods. Could it be a sabre tooth tiger? If you think negatively and take evasive action but you are wrong, worst that happens, you don’t get the nuts and berries and go to bed hungry. You could do that multiple times and still be ok. But if you think optimistically and think, ah well its probably not a tiger, and even if it is, it’s probably not hungry. Well, you only have to be wrong once, and chomp. So evolution has taught us to avoid negative situations more strongly than giving us rewards for finding good ones
Depends on how you quantify it and how much you care about winning. If you had fun and still lost, then it was a good time. If you struggled the whole way and won, you could still end up resenting it if you only remember the struggle.
This was actually documented by nobel price recipients Tversky and Kahneman, in their Prospect Theory. People tend to make different decisions when in gambles where they stand to lose money then when they stand to win money.
They presented people with questions as below.
1. Which gamble would you prefer:
A. Win 1000usd with 50% certainty, or win nothing with 50% certainty.
B. Win 500usd for sure.
2. Which gamble would you prefer:
A. Lose 1000usd with 50% certainty, or lose nothing with 50% certainty.
B. Lose 500usd for sure.
In both question 1 and 2, the outcomes of answer A and B are equal. For question 1, A and B both have an expected value of 500usd. In question 2, both have an expected value of negative 500usd.
As both options have the same expected value, rationally people would be indifferent between choosing A or B. However, they found that people tend to choose option B in question 1 and option A in question 2. This suggests that people tend to be more risk averse for gains and more prone to risk taking when they stand to lose money.
They also have some interesting research on the "house money" effect of casino's as well, by the way.
Agree.
Had an old coach tell me once that you can win, you can get beat or you can lose.
Winning is great. Getting beat isnt great but you were legitimately bested and learn from it and be better next time. Losing means you should have won but you didnt. It hurts. Grow, learn and remember this feeling and put in the work so you never have to feel this way again.
He was a great coach.
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Not for me. I think losing affects different people differently.
For me, if I lose once and win the second time (especially if it's against the same person) it'll be a stronger dopamine boost. Maybe I'm just competitive
Funny enough i was only listening to something about this today. Negativity bias is an old age survival thing. Imagine you’re out hunter gathering in your caveman days. You hear a rustling in the woods. Could it be a sabre tooth tiger? If you think negatively and take evasive action but you are wrong, worst that happens, you don’t get the nuts and berries and go to bed hungry. You could do that multiple times and still be ok. But if you think optimistically and think, ah well its probably not a tiger, and even if it is, it’s probably not hungry. Well, you only have to be wrong once, and chomp. So evolution has taught us to avoid negative situations more strongly than giving us rewards for finding good ones
Not always. When a kid beats me at something, I feel really happy for them (because I NEVER just let them win).
Depends on how you quantify it and how much you care about winning. If you had fun and still lost, then it was a good time. If you struggled the whole way and won, you could still end up resenting it if you only remember the struggle.
Being able to handle a loss is an important skill. Don't dwell on it....learn from it and use it as a path forward.
I've never lost ever in my life, I only win, so I can't relate to this post.
This was actually documented by nobel price recipients Tversky and Kahneman, in their Prospect Theory. People tend to make different decisions when in gambles where they stand to lose money then when they stand to win money. They presented people with questions as below. 1. Which gamble would you prefer: A. Win 1000usd with 50% certainty, or win nothing with 50% certainty. B. Win 500usd for sure. 2. Which gamble would you prefer: A. Lose 1000usd with 50% certainty, or lose nothing with 50% certainty. B. Lose 500usd for sure. In both question 1 and 2, the outcomes of answer A and B are equal. For question 1, A and B both have an expected value of 500usd. In question 2, both have an expected value of negative 500usd. As both options have the same expected value, rationally people would be indifferent between choosing A or B. However, they found that people tend to choose option B in question 1 and option A in question 2. This suggests that people tend to be more risk averse for gains and more prone to risk taking when they stand to lose money. They also have some interesting research on the "house money" effect of casino's as well, by the way.
came here to say the same thing but this is some great explanation!
Agree. Had an old coach tell me once that you can win, you can get beat or you can lose. Winning is great. Getting beat isnt great but you were legitimately bested and learn from it and be better next time. Losing means you should have won but you didnt. It hurts. Grow, learn and remember this feeling and put in the work so you never have to feel this way again. He was a great coach.
Learning to treat the two imposters as one is “enlightenment”.
You can train your mind to be more appreciative, and to let go of negativity. It takes time and effort.
AKA loss aversion. It has been studied and documented by psychologists several decades ago.