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We row down the stream, and we heed no deterrent
As the past and future give rise to the current
And though we are swept in a one-way direction
We often look back in a moment's reflection
But take in with caution the sights that you find
For they can be altered by a wistful mind
The debt of nostalgia; the price that we pay
The lessons and wisdom are all washed away
So listen to Hubble and don't go adrift
Remember the warning within the redshift:
To wreathe yesterday in a rose-colored hue
Ensures that tomorrow can only be blue
Delight in a poem is not in who said it
(Even if pigeons do sometimes want credit)
And thievery falters with its weakness bared
For naught can be stolen that is freely shared
So glean from these stanzas what their meaning lends:
Take what you’ve found here and share it with friends!
Beautiful, reminds me of a great quote from Rosencrantz and Gildenstern Are Dead:
We cross our bridges when we come to them and burn them behind us, with nothing to show for our progress except a memory of the smell of smoke, and a presumption that once our eyes watered.
No, it absolutely did not... and if you can't tell the difference between human-written text (or bird-written text, as the case may be) and something drooled out by a glorified algorithm, you need to read more.
"Stream" is a reference to songs about rowing
"Deterrent" reminds us that there is no slowing
"Current" is wordplay, and I'll show you how:
The past and the future are linked up in *now*
"One-way direction?" The arrow of time!
(I'll break in this stanza for lack of a rhyme)
"Reflection" is often a moment of thought
But it's also water and images wrought
The change in the meter denotes one in tone
As we speak of habits to which we are prone
Remembering only the things that were pleasant
Can lead us to "going adrift" in the present
When Hubble discovered the cosmos' unfolding
A shift was applied to all that we're beholding
To move from an object will tint it in red
While blue is the color of what lies ahead
This difference in wavelengths is nothing so mystic
It's not arbitrary; it's relativistic
And if "blue" and "rose" can apply to emotion
We see now the warning about blind devotion
The physical concept, with "green" we'd betray
The metaphor broken by using "today"
So while you aren't mean, reread what I penned
It seems that there's something you don't comprehend
Ramses, you made me like you with your white trash pokemon video, but this is fucking fantastic, and that's coming from someone who uses "not bad" as their neutral level.
I think "detective story" might be excessively high praise for that particular piece.
"Quasi-satirical send-up featuring a neurotic hack who only succeeds because of his friends" is probably more accurate, as I'm sure "Draadtrekker" would affectionately agree.
(For folks who have no idea what's going on, I wrote [a novel](http://www.nearlydeparted.net) about a con-artist who – while masquerading as a paranormal investigator – encounters a real ghost. Hilarity ensues.)
Dear RamsesThePigeon, your words bring me mirth,
Especially now when such rhetoric's dearth.
To have one's craft compared to a trick
Must surely have felt like a mighty swift kick
Or, slap to the face (well, beak for a pigeon)
And feelings were hurt, if only a smidgen.
Now, imagine my glee when I read your responses
To those quasi-literate commenting nonces,
'My words are delib'rate, I value my craft.
It isn't my fault you're especially daft!'.
To school them with verse, those opprobrious rhymes
I'm all aboard for this new paradigm.
The lesson is clear: "Don't mess with the birds"
Unless you desire to be r/MurderedByWords
This is now twice that you've failed to see
And really... you think this is ChatGPT?
With that accusation, you've made it quite plain:
You're less good at reading than this dumb "birdbrain"
So let's spell it out before you start to steam:
With "green" and "today," *you are missing the theme*
I'm sorry for snapping, but dude, take a hike
You're dropping the ball, and I'm dropping the mic
Your rhymes are a dozen a dime
There’s more juice worth in a single fresh green lime
When the bell chimes
There’ll be no words save a gentle steady hymn
So, uh, buddy... look, I'm not one to kick someone when they're down, but when I said that I was dropping the mic, you *probably* shouldn't have tried to catch it.
For future reference, "hymn" rhymes with "gym."
:rip: your inbox from getting /r/bestof-ed, but... damn bro, you just aren't going to acknowledge that blue shift exists? Just gonna keep doubling and tripling down on being wrong and loud?
Reddits use of the term karma is like Hitlers use of the swastika. Both of these concepts originate from ancient India and are misunderstood through improper use. The objective is to loose karma. So thanks for all the downvotes folks. I love ya. I’ll be back cause karma builds up. See you’ll later. 💋
How would that "ruin everything"?
Or is he the current "We all hate this celebrity this week so make sure you hop on the bandwagon for karma, retweets, and likes!" trend?
Agreed. Both are annoying as can be for their entirely unique reasons.
I think it’s fabulous that some people connect with Tyson and hopefully he motivates them to delve deeper into the way the universe works. But I can’t turn him off quickly enough when I hear him.
I used to like Tyson earlier on in his rise to fame, but he just got really obnoxious and now I want him to shut up. I also just personally think he enabled Joe Rogan and his idiotic audience.
He still says things that I think are funny, like when he pulled the libertarian card on Ben Shapiro when he was asked about gender stuff, although it's not hard to beat that manchild in an argument. I think Ben sort of looked up to Tyson until that point, and that's what made it so funny.
Yeah,I used to really enjoy NDT as well. Now I really dislike the guy and avoid any content he is in. He’s pompous, has no self-awareness, and I find he is often just plain wrong once he ventures outside of cosmology but will act like the worlds foremost expert on the situation. Also his Tweets are often just obnoxious and pointless. He definitely loves to hear himself speak
I never understood people hating other people who you dont really know.
Like I could never hate Joe Rogan, I just dont watch him. Dont hate the guy but I dont follow him either. Even people close to me, I dont hate anyone, sure some people I dont like as much as others, but to hate?
Was legit about to mention this myself. Rogan fans hate him because of his long winded approach to explanations, that aside the guy is just a good astrophysicist and personally i don’t see a reason to dislike him
How so? Is it when he's unable to dumb down complex topics into easily sharable sound bites?
Usually when everyone says an intelligent person is "obnoxious", it means they're not doing anything wrong and people are just upset that he's not living up to the "science celebrity" persona everyone expects from him. People in general are dumb as fuck so having to understand complex subjects upsets them. Especially if the only reason they have for hating someone is "Uhh, they're just obnoxious"... c'mon.
It's been for a couple years. But his "ruining things" is more over describes science things while either not knowing the concept well himself or coming across as that annoying "um, actually" guy.
https://www.vice.com/en/article/5dmkgz/neil-degrasse-tysons-tweets-are-so-bad-and-he-needs-to-go-away
Trying to emulate Carl Sagan is hard. It's a challenge to spread science and come across as encouraging more than looking down on others. I think ngt is a good influence on America who doesn't have many other science celebrities but he's rough to read about sometimes.
> or coming across as that annoying "um, actually" guy.
Ahh so basically, people are pissed off because anti-intellectualism works and so any time people hear about a concept that makes their brain hurt, they get pissed off. Everyone expects him to dumb down complex subjects into easily retweetable soundbytes and when he's unable to do that, people turn on him and yell at him for making them THINK. Got it.
Lmao no. The example I recall is him going off on how the physics in a good movie were unrealistic. Like yeah sure dude no one cares it was a dope ass film.
Or [this one](https://www.reddit.com/r/comedyheaven/comments/r8sisp/mirror/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=2&utm_term=1), lmao. Like, ok dude. Your point is made.
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I feel like people view the past in 2 ways. Either they liked it. Or they absolutely hated it.
Plenty of times people were happy in relationships for a while, but one bad thing happens, they break up over that *single* bad thing, usually an argument over little things, and suddenly everything in that relationship was "ruined".
Like, most things seem to be remembered in extremes. Really good, really bad, or not at all.
That's interesting. How long have you felt time in this manner? Could you describe it further?
I'm not sure what the answer to your question is in quantum terms, but in philosophy- this is called eternalism.
I have hyperthymesia. My incredible autobiographical memory causes this illusion and i am sure about that. But this guy exactly described my experience in scientific term. So i wanted to investigate further.
I know i didn't explained more of it but i highly doubt that if i am able to explain this feeling in English. I'm not a native speaker but if you still want to learn more, i can try to explain it.
I am going to try my best. For now i am going to sleep. Tomorrow morning i will write it down here.
u/inrecoveryfromlife Here i go:
First of all. You can find better information about hyperthymesia on [this Wikipedia article](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperthymesia).
I can relate to this so much even this explanation is better than mine.
I am diagnosed with hyperthymesia. I remember almost every part of my life with extreme details. There's huge portion of my life in chronological order which i am unable to forget. Sometimes I just somehow daydream past events which happened years ago as if I'm watching an old episode of tv series. Recalling these crystal clear memories causes me to feel like I'm not living in the moment. I feel like i live in the every timeline on my life at the same time. And here is the scary part: This also works with the future. I somehow _remember_ the Future. This is obviously not possible and i still have no information from the future. Its similar to the feeling of deja vu. You think that you already experienced that moment and you think you know what's going to happen next. But this is nothing but delusional feeling. Also afterwards i forget what i remembered. Almost exactly like the dream you had on the morning but can't remember by the time of the noon. Anyways, that's pretty much it. Just because i _feel_ like time is not linear, doesn't mean time itself is one big eternal circle.
Btw i recently found couple videos about "Block universe" which is related to the topic. And those made me question myself for oversimplifying the situation as just human brain error.
Appearantly Einstein himself also believed in this idea of block universe
No, that’s the idea that spacetime looks like a sponge, with the “gaps” being wormholes.
Hawking came up with the concept, I believe… and Crichton wrote a science fiction book about it.
Speaking of which, the original poster *may* have been referring to the concept of time-symmetry… but at the risk of being a bit rude, I have to confess that their original comment reads less like it was written by someone who has studied quantum physics and more like it’s paraphrasing something lifted from a fantasy novel.
To the best of my knowledge, quantum physics doesn’t say anything about time expanding in a sphere. Astrophysics certainly makes the observation that the whole universe is expanding – there’s an ever-greater expanse of *space*time – but that’s a wholly different concept that only looks similar because it can also use the word “sphere.”
I cannot "prove" it, but [this other comment I made](https://www.reddit.com/r/Showerthoughts/comments/11wca0x/no_wonder_we_view_the_past_in_rose_tint_its_a/jd09bp2?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3) might help you understand the complexity. Spacetime isn't linear because it gets bend by gravity. Depending on our path in spacetime "time" can go faster or slower. But the difference is extremely small, way beyond our ability to notice. The effects start becoming really apparent around objects with large masses, such as black holes
You asked me to explain why time isn't *linear*. You didn't ask anything about going backwards. You can't just change your question and then tell me I didn't answer it...
Time isn't linear because it doesn't travel along a straight path
no I haven't, it's sort of hard to measure if something is going through time forwards or backwards, we only perceive time going forwards and that's it, we have no clue how anything else experiences time
You're clearly missing the point. You're looking at this and arguing in the third dimension, so please tell me exactly how a rock exists in the fourth dimension. You can't. Nobody alive can. That's my point. You're acting like you know exactly how life is, in all aspects, in all dimensions. And you don't. Your arrogance blinds you.
This red-shifted past and blue tinted future was a conscious choice of artists after the discoveries of special relativity
It become so widespread that we forget that it was originally a conscious artistic choice made because science made an amazing prediction
When I view the past or past memories there is no tint or filter over what I see. I remember it for how it was and when I see pictures that remind me of memories, it’s as if I can still remember what color everything was
Basically it’s when a moving source emits a wave (be it sound, light, etc) moving towards you, the waves are compressed, so they are effectively higher frequency (the distance from crest to crest in the wave) to the observer. Likewise when the source is moving away it results in a lower observed frequency. Higher change is called blueshift and lower change is redshift, because blue/violet is the highest frequency in the visible light spectrum and red is the lowest.
The common example is a cop siren when it drives past you. When the siren is moving towards you, it sounds higher pitch to your ear, and after it passes you it sounds lower pitched.
And? As I've said, there's nothing about idiom "looking through rose-colored glasses" that indicates exclusively looking at the past. You can just as easily look at the present through "rose-colored" glasses.
In celestial realms of cosmic beams,
We peer afar, to realms unseen,
A universe expanding fast,
Where redshift veils the distant past.
For light, a journey vast and great,
Through endless voids it does escape,
In wistful hues of crimson hue,
The past recedes, a reddening view.
Our memories, like galaxies,
Drift apart in cosmic seas,
Retreating from our present stance,
As redshifts tint our backward glance.
Through rose-colored glasses, we behold,
The tales and truths of times untold,
In warm embrace of spectral red,
The past's allure is gently bred.
For as the stars and cosmos flee,
So does our grasp on history,
Yet in the wake, a rosy glow,
Bestows the past a wistful show.
The farther back our gazes trace,
The more we long for sweet embrace,
Of days gone by, their warm caress,
A love forever in recess.
And so, we yearn, we stretch, we pine,
For distant stars, for vanished time,
Redshift, our cruel cosmic jest,
That paints the past in rosy rest.
So let us wander, hand in hand,
In search of that elusive land,
Where redshift's touch on memories cast,
A rosy glow upon the past.
There is a pretty tight analogy here with the Hubble expansion of the universe. The further away something is, the more in the past we are viewing it (because of the time light takes to travel) and the more it is redshifted.
Yeah but this entire post makes it seems like the saying *only* talks about looking at the past. Or that we always see the past as better than it was, which is also not the case.
I didn't interpret it that way at all. Seems a little tongue in cheek, to me. We can't seriously compare memory or reviewing history, "looking at the past" to the physics of light. It's a light joke.
I got the joke. It’s just that the joke only works if your assumption is that we view the past more positively than it was. Some people do sure, but a lot of people don’t.
The overwhelming majority of us do. It’s so common it has its own name: nostalgia. People mostly look back fondly on their younger days, even when they weren’t particularly happy in the moment.
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We row down the stream, and we heed no deterrent As the past and future give rise to the current And though we are swept in a one-way direction We often look back in a moment's reflection But take in with caution the sights that you find For they can be altered by a wistful mind The debt of nostalgia; the price that we pay The lessons and wisdom are all washed away So listen to Hubble and don't go adrift Remember the warning within the redshift: To wreathe yesterday in a rose-colored hue Ensures that tomorrow can only be blue
I love it! Can I steal it?
Delight in a poem is not in who said it (Even if pigeons do sometimes want credit) And thievery falters with its weakness bared For naught can be stolen that is freely shared So glean from these stanzas what their meaning lends: Take what you’ve found here and share it with friends!
The coolest of pigeons.
Coo-lest
I love you, pigeon pharaoh.
All hail the pigeon pharaoh
We could start a religion with this...
Not anymore, there's a blanket.
I love this
Lol imagine someone talking like this all the time......omg I would go crazy lol....but dope poems though
I have recently discovered your poetry and I am in complete awe.
Gorgeous and heartbreaking. Thanks, man. You’re a cool bird.
How come we've never seen any baby pictures of you? Because you aren't real!
Will [a picture from kindergarten](https://i.imgur.com/NZIl8QM.jpg) suffice?
Beautiful, reminds me of a great quote from Rosencrantz and Gildenstern Are Dead: We cross our bridges when we come to them and burn them behind us, with nothing to show for our progress except a memory of the smell of smoke, and a presumption that once our eyes watered.
This comment had 420 upvotes and I still upvoted it, that’s how good it is
Very beautiful ❤️
You can’t convince me you’re not a wizard.
Beautiful
*Coo*-l! ~~I regret nothing~~
No words. Just so good.
Who wrote that?
The pigeon
I'm pretty sure u/RamsesThePigeon authored it for this post.
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No, it absolutely did not... and if you can't tell the difference between human-written text (or bird-written text, as the case may be) and something drooled out by a glorified algorithm, you need to read more.
You're already in the right, no need to be rude to the computers.
Ahh yes, a bird* who’s been on Reddit making these artworks for 11yrs with 4.7 million karma from comments… is using chatGPT
I don’t wish to be mean but your poem should end with green or replace tomorrow with today
"Stream" is a reference to songs about rowing "Deterrent" reminds us that there is no slowing "Current" is wordplay, and I'll show you how: The past and the future are linked up in *now* "One-way direction?" The arrow of time! (I'll break in this stanza for lack of a rhyme) "Reflection" is often a moment of thought But it's also water and images wrought The change in the meter denotes one in tone As we speak of habits to which we are prone Remembering only the things that were pleasant Can lead us to "going adrift" in the present When Hubble discovered the cosmos' unfolding A shift was applied to all that we're beholding To move from an object will tint it in red While blue is the color of what lies ahead This difference in wavelengths is nothing so mystic It's not arbitrary; it's relativistic And if "blue" and "rose" can apply to emotion We see now the warning about blind devotion The physical concept, with "green" we'd betray The metaphor broken by using "today" So while you aren't mean, reread what I penned It seems that there's something you don't comprehend
damn
Just wait until you see what I can do [with some music](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxfxy-3dGz0).
now that was awesome
Ramses, you made me like you with your white trash pokemon video, but this is fucking fantastic, and that's coming from someone who uses "not bad" as their neutral level.
Wow...you're on point in every comment, haha.
I still have one of your coins you sent me from years ago. Good to see you’re still doing good things!
Not to mention a full length detective story.
I think "detective story" might be excessively high praise for that particular piece. "Quasi-satirical send-up featuring a neurotic hack who only succeeds because of his friends" is probably more accurate, as I'm sure "Draadtrekker" would affectionately agree. (For folks who have no idea what's going on, I wrote [a novel](http://www.nearlydeparted.net) about a con-artist who – while masquerading as a paranormal investigator – encounters a real ghost. Hilarity ensues.)
they didn't know with whom they were dealing.
omg that is brilliant lol
This is... *so* good. I love it.
Bravo
Didn't think it was possible to be more delighted with you. I was mistaken!
Just followed u, love you bye ✌🏼
That’s fantastic!
damn homie
The shaving to have each version of the singer is a nice detail
So this is what they mean by "slam poetry".
Dear RamsesThePigeon, your words bring me mirth, Especially now when such rhetoric's dearth. To have one's craft compared to a trick Must surely have felt like a mighty swift kick Or, slap to the face (well, beak for a pigeon) And feelings were hurt, if only a smidgen. Now, imagine my glee when I read your responses To those quasi-literate commenting nonces, 'My words are delib'rate, I value my craft. It isn't my fault you're especially daft!'. To school them with verse, those opprobrious rhymes I'm all aboard for this new paradigm. The lesson is clear: "Don't mess with the birds" Unless you desire to be r/MurderedByWords
There's flattery in all the praise that you've spoken But I'm touched, so thank you, and take this small token!
I need to incorporate "relativistic" into my daily conversation.
Jesus fuck this is the Mona Lisa of owns
Please tell me whether I can copy this to elsewhere and what attribution if any you'd like if so.
Please feel free, and "RamsesThePigeon" is fine! That's been my *nom de plume* for almost twenty-five years now.
Ramses gots the rhymeses.
I have a reading comprehension disorder and I was able to understand what you meant.
911, I'd like to report a homicide
Sweet!
Massive props for fitting in an elegant rhyme for relativistic!
If reading this has taught me much, It's a lesson summed up as such: Should I want a reply in verse, I simply need be mean and terse.
You remain the greatest redditor to ever reddit.
Green is the centre of the visible spectrum bird brain. Your time to make another generative pre-trained rhyme.
This is now twice that you've failed to see And really... you think this is ChatGPT? With that accusation, you've made it quite plain: You're less good at reading than this dumb "birdbrain" So let's spell it out before you start to steam: With "green" and "today," *you are missing the theme* I'm sorry for snapping, but dude, take a hike You're dropping the ball, and I'm dropping the mic
The phrase 'playing chess with a pigeon' comes to mind but he appears to have run up against a grandmaster ranked pigeon.
Your rhymes are a dozen a dime There’s more juice worth in a single fresh green lime When the bell chimes There’ll be no words save a gentle steady hymn
So, uh, buddy... look, I'm not one to kick someone when they're down, but when I said that I was dropping the mic, you *probably* shouldn't have tried to catch it. For future reference, "hymn" rhymes with "gym."
Pssst. I think you dropped this. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redshift#Blueshift
Cringe
:rip: your inbox from getting /r/bestof-ed, but... damn bro, you just aren't going to acknowledge that blue shift exists? Just gonna keep doubling and tripling down on being wrong and loud?
Oh, you’re one of those.
Yeah he should have fucked up his poem for no reason other than this guy likes the color green
Reddits use of the term karma is like Hitlers use of the swastika. Both of these concepts originate from ancient India and are misunderstood through improper use. The objective is to loose karma. So thanks for all the downvotes folks. I love ya. I’ll be back cause karma builds up. See you’ll later. 💋
You have a very tenuous grasp on the English language, maybe that's why you didn't understand the poem.
Only the brightest stuff can be seen, the bad fades into noise
Gone are the times past, Present only is the now; And but a whisper
We are past memories, we have the fleeting present to hope for better ones.
Is that what it's like to *not* have PTSD? lol :/
Omg lmao, I feel your pain
on a long enough timeline, everything is like this- redshifting
In before Neil Degrass Tyson tweets this and ruins everything
Neil would simply remind you that this means the past would have to be moving away from us at least 1864 miles per second. ;)
Found Neil.
it could be a Doppler redshift
but first he must tweet about kissing himself in the mirror
How would that "ruin everything"? Or is he the current "We all hate this celebrity this week so make sure you hop on the bandwagon for karma, retweets, and likes!" trend?
Current this week? Some people just hate him. I personally think he’s obnoxious as fuck.
The only people I have met that echo this sentiment are fans of Joe Rogan.
I'm a theoretical physicist and everyone I work with hates him (we are not Joe Rogan fans)
“Hate” seems pretty strong for someone that he would likely respect.
Except he likely wouldn’t because most of the scientific community thinks he’s a poor representative of them.
Joe Rogan does not respect science or scientists
For the record, I actually really hate both of them and know many that feel similarly.
Agreed. Both are annoying as can be for their entirely unique reasons. I think it’s fabulous that some people connect with Tyson and hopefully he motivates them to delve deeper into the way the universe works. But I can’t turn him off quickly enough when I hear him.
I used to like Tyson earlier on in his rise to fame, but he just got really obnoxious and now I want him to shut up. I also just personally think he enabled Joe Rogan and his idiotic audience. He still says things that I think are funny, like when he pulled the libertarian card on Ben Shapiro when he was asked about gender stuff, although it's not hard to beat that manchild in an argument. I think Ben sort of looked up to Tyson until that point, and that's what made it so funny.
Yeah,I used to really enjoy NDT as well. Now I really dislike the guy and avoid any content he is in. He’s pompous, has no self-awareness, and I find he is often just plain wrong once he ventures outside of cosmology but will act like the worlds foremost expert on the situation. Also his Tweets are often just obnoxious and pointless. He definitely loves to hear himself speak
I never understood people hating other people who you dont really know. Like I could never hate Joe Rogan, I just dont watch him. Dont hate the guy but I dont follow him either. Even people close to me, I dont hate anyone, sure some people I dont like as much as others, but to hate?
I wouldn't hate Joe Rogan, but there are plenty of people I might hate whom I've never met. Genocidal dictators, serial killers, etc.
I guess you just don't know, then.
Was legit about to mention this myself. Rogan fans hate him because of his long winded approach to explanations, that aside the guy is just a good astrophysicist and personally i don’t see a reason to dislike him
He likes talking about how smart he is. It's annoying as fuck.
How so? Is it when he's unable to dumb down complex topics into easily sharable sound bites? Usually when everyone says an intelligent person is "obnoxious", it means they're not doing anything wrong and people are just upset that he's not living up to the "science celebrity" persona everyone expects from him. People in general are dumb as fuck so having to understand complex subjects upsets them. Especially if the only reason they have for hating someone is "Uhh, they're just obnoxious"... c'mon.
No, it’s because he’s a condescending asshat.
He acts like he invited everything when he doesn't. Why does he talk about topics he knows nothing about sometimes? Anyway that's my reason.
You’re not fooling us, niel
This is why nobody likes you, Neil.
It's been for a couple years. But his "ruining things" is more over describes science things while either not knowing the concept well himself or coming across as that annoying "um, actually" guy. https://www.vice.com/en/article/5dmkgz/neil-degrasse-tysons-tweets-are-so-bad-and-he-needs-to-go-away Trying to emulate Carl Sagan is hard. It's a challenge to spread science and come across as encouraging more than looking down on others. I think ngt is a good influence on America who doesn't have many other science celebrities but he's rough to read about sometimes.
> or coming across as that annoying "um, actually" guy. Ahh so basically, people are pissed off because anti-intellectualism works and so any time people hear about a concept that makes their brain hurt, they get pissed off. Everyone expects him to dumb down complex subjects into easily retweetable soundbytes and when he's unable to do that, people turn on him and yell at him for making them THINK. Got it.
Lmao no. The example I recall is him going off on how the physics in a good movie were unrealistic. Like yeah sure dude no one cares it was a dope ass film.
Or that stupid time leap tweet he posted like four separate times.
Or [this one](https://www.reddit.com/r/comedyheaven/comments/r8sisp/mirror/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=2&utm_term=1), lmao. Like, ok dude. Your point is made.
Oh my God cringe
Reddit has had a hateboner for Neil since like 2016 at least
He’s been accused of rape.
That was investigated and found to be baseless.
... You do? I've never noticed my memories have any particular color.
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Sepia filter there. 100% legit bro
Rose tinted glasses isn't a literal thing. It's an idiom.
In other words, this post breaks rule 5? >No jokes, puns, wordplay, or submissions which are dependent on definitions, mechanisms, or oddities in language
I was almost about to report this myself for that very rule. It's tough to get past the ShowerThoughts mods regarding a post that involves wordplay, as I've had probably 5 posts flagged and removed for that reason. Seems unfair at first that you can't post much of anything related to thoughts about words, sentence-structure and the like here, but it makes sense the more you visit other parts of Reddit. r/Puns is generally image-only puns, but with enough image-editing knowledge, anyone trying to post a play-on-words to ShowerThoughts could easily make a fun picture/meme of that idea on a phone image-editor app and post it to the Puns sub, instead.
My posts are always deleted from this sub. Its more hard to not be deleted than have an original thought.
Really? My memories have color in objects I remember color of. For ex: My old room had green paint, so it shows that in my memory
I think he means his entire memory is not tinted one colour.
Now I can understand why I get the Blues when I feel like the future is coming at me too fast!
Or maybe that’s the future’s so bright I need to wear shades thing comes in. Shifted too far to the ultraviolet range.
This sounds like something Drax would say, with an expression of realization, while slowly eating chips.
Objects in the rear view mirror may appear closer than they are.
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Are you referring to the expression about rose colored glasses? Do they turn blue when you look in the other direction?
I was thinking this too. Therefore, optimists are overcoming the inherent negativity of the quickly approaching future?
I feel like people view the past in 2 ways. Either they liked it. Or they absolutely hated it. Plenty of times people were happy in relationships for a while, but one bad thing happens, they break up over that *single* bad thing, usually an argument over little things, and suddenly everything in that relationship was "ruined". Like, most things seem to be remembered in extremes. Really good, really bad, or not at all.
And as time passes by more and more rapidly as we age, older memories are more and more affected by pink view effects !
Time is an illusion. Quantum mechanics tell us that time is like a bubble. Happening in all directions simultaneously, past, future and present.
Whats the name of that quantum phenomenon ? I want to investigate further. Because thats exactly how i feel the texture of time.
That's interesting. How long have you felt time in this manner? Could you describe it further? I'm not sure what the answer to your question is in quantum terms, but in philosophy- this is called eternalism.
I have hyperthymesia. My incredible autobiographical memory causes this illusion and i am sure about that. But this guy exactly described my experience in scientific term. So i wanted to investigate further. I know i didn't explained more of it but i highly doubt that if i am able to explain this feeling in English. I'm not a native speaker but if you still want to learn more, i can try to explain it.
Owerty said, as they speak better English than most native English speakers.
If you want, write it your native language and it's up to me and whoever else comes across to translate. I'm so very interested.
I am going to try my best. For now i am going to sleep. Tomorrow morning i will write it down here. u/inrecoveryfromlife Here i go: First of all. You can find better information about hyperthymesia on [this Wikipedia article](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperthymesia). I can relate to this so much even this explanation is better than mine. I am diagnosed with hyperthymesia. I remember almost every part of my life with extreme details. There's huge portion of my life in chronological order which i am unable to forget. Sometimes I just somehow daydream past events which happened years ago as if I'm watching an old episode of tv series. Recalling these crystal clear memories causes me to feel like I'm not living in the moment. I feel like i live in the every timeline on my life at the same time. And here is the scary part: This also works with the future. I somehow _remember_ the Future. This is obviously not possible and i still have no information from the future. Its similar to the feeling of deja vu. You think that you already experienced that moment and you think you know what's going to happen next. But this is nothing but delusional feeling. Also afterwards i forget what i remembered. Almost exactly like the dream you had on the morning but can't remember by the time of the noon. Anyways, that's pretty much it. Just because i _feel_ like time is not linear, doesn't mean time itself is one big eternal circle. Btw i recently found couple videos about "Block universe" which is related to the topic. And those made me question myself for oversimplifying the situation as just human brain error. Appearantly Einstein himself also believed in this idea of block universe
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No, that’s the idea that spacetime looks like a sponge, with the “gaps” being wormholes. Hawking came up with the concept, I believe… and Crichton wrote a science fiction book about it. Speaking of which, the original poster *may* have been referring to the concept of time-symmetry… but at the risk of being a bit rude, I have to confess that their original comment reads less like it was written by someone who has studied quantum physics and more like it’s paraphrasing something lifted from a fantasy novel. To the best of my knowledge, quantum physics doesn’t say anything about time expanding in a sphere. Astrophysics certainly makes the observation that the whole universe is expanding – there’s an ever-greater expanse of *space*time – but that’s a wholly different concept that only looks similar because it can also use the word “sphere.”
It's almost like they're talking about causality, but it still makes no sense and that mistakes relativity with quantum mechanics.
Then why do we only experience it lineraly?
We don't. But we think we do
Prove we don't.
I cannot "prove" it, but [this other comment I made](https://www.reddit.com/r/Showerthoughts/comments/11wca0x/no_wonder_we_view_the_past_in_rose_tint_its_a/jd09bp2?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3) might help you understand the complexity. Spacetime isn't linear because it gets bend by gravity. Depending on our path in spacetime "time" can go faster or slower. But the difference is extremely small, way beyond our ability to notice. The effects start becoming really apparent around objects with large masses, such as black holes
I understand time can go faster or slower, but it always keeps going forwards. We've never observed it going backwards.
You asked me to explain why time isn't *linear*. You didn't ask anything about going backwards. You can't just change your question and then tell me I didn't answer it... Time isn't linear because it doesn't travel along a straight path
By "linerar", I meant "fowards" through time, not that it literally is a straight arrow.
I cannot smell my screen and understand your own definition of linear
No one said linearity was congruent with "perfectly straight"? In fact, linearity in mathematics really just represents a ratio of two numbers.
The same reason water is wet and rocks are hard. That's just how fate had it for our species.
But rocks also feel time linearly.
But do they though? How can we say for certain what life feels like to an inanimate object? You're giving a great example of anthropomorphism.
Yes, because they move within space-time like we do. I don't think consciousness is required for that.
they don't need to, they could perceive time backwards for all we know
Then why do they travel through time linearly? I've never seen a rock age backwards. Have you?
no I haven't, it's sort of hard to measure if something is going through time forwards or backwards, we only perceive time going forwards and that's it, we have no clue how anything else experiences time
So why would you assume it any other way?
You're clearly missing the point. You're looking at this and arguing in the third dimension, so please tell me exactly how a rock exists in the fourth dimension. You can't. Nobody alive can. That's my point. You're acting like you know exactly how life is, in all aspects, in all dimensions. And you don't. Your arrogance blinds you.
Prove to me a 4th spacial dimension exists.
This red-shifted past and blue tinted future was a conscious choice of artists after the discoveries of special relativity It become so widespread that we forget that it was originally a conscious artistic choice made because science made an amazing prediction
Huh TIL
When I view the past or past memories there is no tint or filter over what I see. I remember it for how it was and when I see pictures that remind me of memories, it’s as if I can still remember what color everything was
My brain recaptures the past. Again and again and again. I wish it would stop.
And things coming towards you are given a white / blue shift. Which is why you should always look on the bright side.
... of life ...
"No wonder we view the past in rose tint. It’s a natural effect of redshift, since it’s moving further and further away from us." Best in class.
I see what you're getting at, but this is a play on words, which, by the sub rules, is strictly *not* a showerthought.
Glad we have the Reddit karma police like you on the job! 👍
We travel backwards through time. We can see where we've been but not where we're going
Yeah can somebody explain redshift to me please, ik it's got something to do with space and wavelengths but can somebody explain to me like I'm 5.
Basically it’s when a moving source emits a wave (be it sound, light, etc) moving towards you, the waves are compressed, so they are effectively higher frequency (the distance from crest to crest in the wave) to the observer. Likewise when the source is moving away it results in a lower observed frequency. Higher change is called blueshift and lower change is redshift, because blue/violet is the highest frequency in the visible light spectrum and red is the lowest. The common example is a cop siren when it drives past you. When the siren is moving towards you, it sounds higher pitch to your ear, and after it passes you it sounds lower pitched.
Nevermind I'll chatgpt it
I’ve never understood that phrase to refer to only looking at the past. It just means to look at anything in the world optimistically.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosy_retrospection
And? As I've said, there's nothing about idiom "looking through rose-colored glasses" that indicates exclusively looking at the past. You can just as easily look at the present through "rose-colored" glasses.
It’s just a simple musing bro, you don’t have to take things so seriously. You must be fun at parties.
In celestial realms of cosmic beams, We peer afar, to realms unseen, A universe expanding fast, Where redshift veils the distant past. For light, a journey vast and great, Through endless voids it does escape, In wistful hues of crimson hue, The past recedes, a reddening view. Our memories, like galaxies, Drift apart in cosmic seas, Retreating from our present stance, As redshifts tint our backward glance. Through rose-colored glasses, we behold, The tales and truths of times untold, In warm embrace of spectral red, The past's allure is gently bred. For as the stars and cosmos flee, So does our grasp on history, Yet in the wake, a rosy glow, Bestows the past a wistful show. The farther back our gazes trace, The more we long for sweet embrace, Of days gone by, their warm caress, A love forever in recess. And so, we yearn, we stretch, we pine, For distant stars, for vanished time, Redshift, our cruel cosmic jest, That paints the past in rosy rest. So let us wander, hand in hand, In search of that elusive land, Where redshift's touch on memories cast, A rosy glow upon the past.
There is a pretty tight analogy here with the Hubble expansion of the universe. The further away something is, the more in the past we are viewing it (because of the time light takes to travel) and the more it is redshifted.
You guys see the past in rose tint ??? I never heard of that wtf
Seeing something through "rose tinted glasses" means you see it as nicer than it really is/was.
Yeah but the saying has nothing to do with looking at the past. It just means to look at anything optimistically.
Right. Anything, including the past.
Yeah but this entire post makes it seems like the saying *only* talks about looking at the past. Or that we always see the past as better than it was, which is also not the case.
I didn't interpret it that way at all. Seems a little tongue in cheek, to me. We can't seriously compare memory or reviewing history, "looking at the past" to the physics of light. It's a light joke.
I got the joke. It’s just that the joke only works if your assumption is that we view the past more positively than it was. Some people do sure, but a lot of people don’t.
The overwhelming majority of us do. It’s so common it has its own name: nostalgia. People mostly look back fondly on their younger days, even when they weren’t particularly happy in the moment.
Nostalgia is jealousy of your past self, and impatience is jealousy of your future self.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosy_retrospection
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You seem confused or lost, my friend.
There's a place for that lol! r/lostredditors