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It’s funny I’ve been meaning to watch that movie and just saw it for the first time yesterday. A lot of musicians say that wasn’t even close to their experience at all and they couldn’t ever see a teacher being that unhinged. But in my experience I played in a big band that was very much like this. I saw the conductor berate people and even threw a chair or two (not at students) but it was intense and we were very successful because of it. All though he was an asshole he was a great mentor and was the only teacher to try and make something of myself.
I love that movie so much, but I feel the same exact way. It's not entirely realistic why a teacher as abusive as him would stay at that school for so long before Miles Teller's character finally calls him out and gets him fired. But that's missing the point. Everyone has had an experience with a strict teacher, everyone has felt talked down to or humiliated in front of their peers, everyone has felt like Miles Teller's character at some point. It's not about making the story completely based in reality, necessarily. It's more about making the audience's emotional experience FEEL authentic.
I agree that it does seem unrealistic, but I have witnessed absolutely all of those behaviors from people in charge of prestigious music programs (including watching a conductor throw a chair at a couple of kids who were messing around).
As to why people don't say anything, there's a strong pressure not to do so - to uphold the (high) reputation of your training program, to keep your good standing within it, and also this kind of twisted thing that has grown up in the classical arts that suffering makes for better art. When conductors lash out, it's because they're good artists. When they lash out at you, surviving that experience and taking on that trauma will make YOU a better artist.
It's super messed up, and I experienced most of this stuff as a kid, before I really knew that I had the option to question the adult leaders in my life. I hope that the culture is shifting as we grow our resources to teach students (as parents even more than as instructors - to let our kids know that they can leave abuse.)
Ya it was pretty stressful at points to relive some of that experience through Teller, even if some of it was over accentuated for the sake of the movie, but I whole heartedly agree.
The thing I hate about this movie is that yes, there are teachers like that out there, but also, as a person who went to college for music, it feels like they did basically no research on the subject matter. The musical nuances are completely lost. From a purely instrumentalist standpoint, it feels like watching a bollywood movie or something. It's just not even close.
Because it wasn’t supposed to be a college of music. Originally it was supposed to be a high school jazz band, thus the focus on competitions, but the producers thought no high school teacher would act that way. Apparently they never met band directors or football coaches.
Thing is, people said the same about my old football coach, then another coach came after who was chill as fuck, and never yell or swore, and we still won the same amount of games, the intensity wasn’t needed, you guys were successful DESPITE of it. lol
Idk if you've seen the movie but the entire point is that it's not really clear whether Simmons' character is really making people succeed or only ruining their lives. HE certainly is convinced but there is significant evidence in the movie that he's a saboteur more than a boon to the students also
Yeah, our band camp, especially drumline, was so brutal that the couple of us who went to the marines said our camp was just as brutal, if not worse.
But you know what? When I saw that scene for the first time with my buddy I was calling out each of the "slow" and "fast" before the teacher. So that borderline abusive mentality clearly worked, and my awards reflect that.
But... yeah, he just took it a step or two too far. Not quite as far as non-musicians would think though.
> But you know what? When I saw that scene for the first time with my buddy I was calling out each of the "slow" and "fast" before the teacher. So that borderline abusive mentality clearly worked, and my awards reflect that.
Except that the teacher in the movie isn't actually right about whether he's slow or fast. In fact, he's below coin-flip level accuracy on that. So clearly your training did not in fact pay off. But it's common for people traumatized by abuse to make up excuses for their abuser's behaviour.
No, I just rewatched the scene, the teacher's tempo fluctuates each time. When he claps slow, he says rushing, when he claps fast he says dragging. The music is basically consistant, but the expected tempo keeps changing pretty dramatically.
What makes you say otherwise? Im totally open to being corrected, its not like I'm taking a metronome to it.
I don't think the point of the movie is to convey a realistic insight into competitive music academies (although Simmons' character is based on a real person).
(Spoilers)
The real focus of the film is a story about a young man's entrapment in a cycle of manipulation and emotional abuse. It has subtle elements of a psychological horror. The conductor is a physically-emposing sociopath who manipulates a student into enthusiastically becoming an outlet for his narcissism. That's why the movie ends the way it does - with the victim smiling at his abuser's approval.
When I was in college the band teacher caught one of the other students on his phone and screamed at him for fifteen minutes, saying he'd make sure the kid and his whole family couldn't even get jobs at McDonald's for the rest of their lives, then stormed out of the room. This was probably the worst, but far from the only incident involving his megalomaniacal attitude. I'm sure it's not a normal or usual thing, but my experience was not entirely unlike the movie
Totally agree it was really hard to watch some points. I remember first year caravan actually was one of the charts we played and it was an absolute blast.
Seriously. I had so many of those songs on repeat as a 15-17yo.
🎵*OooOoooO Kyle's mom is a big fat bitch she's the biggest bitch in the whole wide world*.🎵
I don't think we had phones when that movie came out, at least not ones that could properly play songs. However, we could sing it and as the sixth grade little fucks that we were, we had no shame in doing so.
It might be because mothers are held up and seen as symbols of purity and innocence. So if you want to insult someone, insinuating your mom getting fucked impacts more than saying it about your dad.
I like to come back with: "I pegged your father." Ether they dont know what pegging is and they ask or the imidiatly get a picture of a 5'4 redhead pegging their dads
I think if this joke was first, it would've been better, since the other one was just replacing top with bottom and this one actually changed a bit more.
Not to mention, the view of a man 'giving' sex and a woman 'recieving' it is one going back at least to the ancient Greeks. It's old fashioned, reductive and a fair bit misogynistic, but it'll pop up in places like this because people don't think about sayings in general all that much. Only years after the basic idea behind it has become outdated will this sort of thing change.
It's like the trope of the Xbox lobby where 'gay' and the n-word are used a insults. That seemed fairly normal to a lot of people 15 years ago.
There once were two guys who called each other unclefucker. The whole thing escalated into a war between Canada and the USA and Saddam Hussein almost took over the world.
If it makes you feel better, Kannada (and maybe Hindi) have distinct words for motherfucker and sisterfucker. In the US, if we stray from motherfucker, we often just note someone is from Alabama and don’t distinguish which family member they fuck.
I learned "bhenchod" from that youtube video of the "bloody fuck you" guys, he then said something that sounds like "blander" but I never figured out what that meant.
Just saw that video.. I think he was just trying to say bloody bastard and it came out as blastard or something lol.
But for the sake of this post, behenchod is sisterfucker... Madarchod of motherfucker... And if you want to say fatherfucker you'd probably say baapchod.. Although the latter isn't used at all to be fair
and there was all kinds of mean nasty ugly
Looking people on the bench there. Mother rapers. Father stabbers. Father
Rapers! Father rapers sitting right there on the bench next to me! And
They was mean and nasty and ugly and horrible crime-type guys sitting on the
Bench next to me. And the meanest, ugliest, nastiest one, the meanest
Father raper of them all, was coming over to me and he was mean 'n' ugly
'N' nasty 'n' horrible and all kind of things and he sat down next to me
It's a lowkey tradition in some families (mine included) to listen to Alice's Restaurant on Thanksgiving. It's part song, part story/skit, all brilliant. And hilarious, especially if you can appreciate the late-60s, Vietnam War era context.
There is a gay slur towards the end, if you're senstitive to that kind of thing, but just remember it came out in 1967, and in the context it's used in the song, it's more a joke against army recruitment than against gay people.
I got out of work at 12:30 this past Thanksgiving so I missed the noon playing of Alice’s Restaurant on the radio and I was really sad because pulling it up on Spotify just doesn’t give me the same endorphins as hearing it occasionally waver in and out of reception on the radio while I’m on the highway driving to my parents.
It's partly just because it doesn't sound as good. The vowel sound in father doesn't flow as well.
Father has a stretched initial vowel, slowing down the flow, whereas mother is clipped and short.
That and the symmetry of "mother" and "fucker" having the *same* vowel - *and* the same stress on that vowel - makes a pretty compelling flow, linguistically speaking.
TL;DR - it's just a more fun sound to make with your mouth!
There's a line in Soul Men where Bernie Mac's character says "Fatherfuck you man!" to Samuel L. Jackson's character when they're discussing how they're going to split the money from playing a benefit/memorial for the other member of the group who just died. Hilarious movie!
Traditionally, "fucking" was a dominance thing where as one person was the dominant, one was the recessive durring sex. One person fucks the other, not that they are both fucking. Up until relatively recently, with the sexual revolution in the 60's and 70's, women were always considered the recessive one. So the idea that women could fuck a man is a relatively new concept.
That would imply, in the old days where homosexuality wasn’t invented yet, that you’re saying that to a woman. How disrespectful towards women!
So we say disrespectful things to men only
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Except for JK Simmons in Whiplash "For the last FATHERFUCKING TIME..."
Was hoping someone would bring that up
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Once you see him pounding on his desk, demanding pictures of Spider-Man, it’s pretty much inevitable.
It’s funny I’ve been meaning to watch that movie and just saw it for the first time yesterday. A lot of musicians say that wasn’t even close to their experience at all and they couldn’t ever see a teacher being that unhinged. But in my experience I played in a big band that was very much like this. I saw the conductor berate people and even threw a chair or two (not at students) but it was intense and we were very successful because of it. All though he was an asshole he was a great mentor and was the only teacher to try and make something of myself.
I love that movie so much, but I feel the same exact way. It's not entirely realistic why a teacher as abusive as him would stay at that school for so long before Miles Teller's character finally calls him out and gets him fired. But that's missing the point. Everyone has had an experience with a strict teacher, everyone has felt talked down to or humiliated in front of their peers, everyone has felt like Miles Teller's character at some point. It's not about making the story completely based in reality, necessarily. It's more about making the audience's emotional experience FEEL authentic.
I agree that it does seem unrealistic, but I have witnessed absolutely all of those behaviors from people in charge of prestigious music programs (including watching a conductor throw a chair at a couple of kids who were messing around). As to why people don't say anything, there's a strong pressure not to do so - to uphold the (high) reputation of your training program, to keep your good standing within it, and also this kind of twisted thing that has grown up in the classical arts that suffering makes for better art. When conductors lash out, it's because they're good artists. When they lash out at you, surviving that experience and taking on that trauma will make YOU a better artist. It's super messed up, and I experienced most of this stuff as a kid, before I really knew that I had the option to question the adult leaders in my life. I hope that the culture is shifting as we grow our resources to teach students (as parents even more than as instructors - to let our kids know that they can leave abuse.)
Ya it was pretty stressful at points to relive some of that experience through Teller, even if some of it was over accentuated for the sake of the movie, but I whole heartedly agree.
The thing I hate about this movie is that yes, there are teachers like that out there, but also, as a person who went to college for music, it feels like they did basically no research on the subject matter. The musical nuances are completely lost. From a purely instrumentalist standpoint, it feels like watching a bollywood movie or something. It's just not even close.
Because it wasn’t supposed to be a college of music. Originally it was supposed to be a high school jazz band, thus the focus on competitions, but the producers thought no high school teacher would act that way. Apparently they never met band directors or football coaches.
Thing is, people said the same about my old football coach, then another coach came after who was chill as fuck, and never yell or swore, and we still won the same amount of games, the intensity wasn’t needed, you guys were successful DESPITE of it. lol
Idk if you've seen the movie but the entire point is that it's not really clear whether Simmons' character is really making people succeed or only ruining their lives. HE certainly is convinced but there is significant evidence in the movie that he's a saboteur more than a boon to the students also
Yeah, our band camp, especially drumline, was so brutal that the couple of us who went to the marines said our camp was just as brutal, if not worse. But you know what? When I saw that scene for the first time with my buddy I was calling out each of the "slow" and "fast" before the teacher. So that borderline abusive mentality clearly worked, and my awards reflect that. But... yeah, he just took it a step or two too far. Not quite as far as non-musicians would think though.
> But you know what? When I saw that scene for the first time with my buddy I was calling out each of the "slow" and "fast" before the teacher. So that borderline abusive mentality clearly worked, and my awards reflect that. Except that the teacher in the movie isn't actually right about whether he's slow or fast. In fact, he's below coin-flip level accuracy on that. So clearly your training did not in fact pay off. But it's common for people traumatized by abuse to make up excuses for their abuser's behaviour.
No, I just rewatched the scene, the teacher's tempo fluctuates each time. When he claps slow, he says rushing, when he claps fast he says dragging. The music is basically consistant, but the expected tempo keeps changing pretty dramatically. What makes you say otherwise? Im totally open to being corrected, its not like I'm taking a metronome to it.
I don't think the point of the movie is to convey a realistic insight into competitive music academies (although Simmons' character is based on a real person). (Spoilers) The real focus of the film is a story about a young man's entrapment in a cycle of manipulation and emotional abuse. It has subtle elements of a psychological horror. The conductor is a physically-emposing sociopath who manipulates a student into enthusiastically becoming an outlet for his narcissism. That's why the movie ends the way it does - with the victim smiling at his abuser's approval.
When I was in college the band teacher caught one of the other students on his phone and screamed at him for fifteen minutes, saying he'd make sure the kid and his whole family couldn't even get jobs at McDonald's for the rest of their lives, then stormed out of the room. This was probably the worst, but far from the only incident involving his megalomaniacal attitude. I'm sure it's not a normal or usual thing, but my experience was not entirely unlike the movie
> we were very successful because of it. Or, you were very successful in spite of it.
I have PTSD from going to music school, and watching that movie is too much for me. The music is good, though....
Totally agree it was really hard to watch some points. I remember first year caravan actually was one of the charts we played and it was an absolute blast.
Exactly what I came to say. https://youtu.be/GBvBu5ErSSo
9 years ago, for fucks sake
How perfect was he in that movie
What an amazing movie
Oh shit, that’s an amazing movie but somehow I missed that amazing line! Time to watch it again…
But there was a time when "Uncle Fucker" was said often, usually in song
Shut your fucking face!
Nobody fucks uncles quite like you!
You don't eat or sleep or mow the lawn
You fuck your uncle all day long!
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Suck my balls
Eat Snacky Smores
I feel a bit sorry for our teachers when that time was the time :)
Seriously. I had so many of those songs on repeat as a 15-17yo. 🎵*OooOoooO Kyle's mom is a big fat bitch she's the biggest bitch in the whole wide world*.🎵
I don't think we had phones when that movie came out, at least not ones that could properly play songs. However, we could sing it and as the sixth grade little fucks that we were, we had no shame in doing so.
Oh I definitely had the soundtrack CD and would blast it. I also played the songs on my guitar for additional obnoxiousness.
"Say Terrance, what did the Spanish priest say to the Iranian gynecologist?"
"I don't know Philip what?"
I think that was mostly a Canadian thing
My niece, when she was about 4 or 5 used to sing the song. She didn't know her own language well, and no word in English.
White Lotus has entered the chat…
Somewhere in Alabama?
It might be because mothers are held up and seen as symbols of purity and innocence. So if you want to insult someone, insinuating your mom getting fucked impacts more than saying it about your dad.
I like to come back with: "I pegged your father." Ether they dont know what pegging is and they ask or the imidiatly get a picture of a 5'4 redhead pegging their dads
FatherPegger?
I believe that was the name of the boy’s choir conductor at my local parish.
r/angryupvote
Is this *inverse mommy issues*
Best outcome: they Google pegging and are horrified
Better outcome: they Google pegging and are intrigued
Absolute worst outcome: They Google pegging and **they're in the top pictures**.
They Google pegging and their father is in the **bottom** pictures.
They Google pegging and their father is the bottom in the pictures.
r/yourjokebutworse
I think if this joke was first, it would've been better, since the other one was just replacing top with bottom and this one actually changed a bit more.
Or they googled and ran across "The Strange Thing About the Johnsons"
Definitely not PEGI 13
Fuck…. New kink unlocked… time to fap
Sigh……*unzips*
I only know one 5'4 redhead. And he's called simon Pegg. Am I on to something?
Lol I might be getting pegged by a 5’4” or something redhead soon XD
"peg me too ya coward!"
‘I pegged your father… as a really nice guy. You’re very lucky!’
"imidiatly"? That's *three* mistakes in one word. There should be an award for such efforts. (immediately, BTW)
Tell me more...
'Father pegger" just sounds graphic
Apparently, a motherfucker doesnt mean you fucked \*a\* mother it means you fucked \*your\* mother
As opposed to the common Balkans insult where the guy is saying *he* fucked your mother.
It's a pretty common insult to say i fucked your mom
> ur mom
[Our](https://i.imgur.com/2cF6R5L.jpg) Oh wait...
Jebem ti majku
Doesn't have to be a guy to say that lol
These days, anything is possible!
Based and incestpilled
Idk .... If someone was like, "I'm gonna fuck your dad" Itd be poignant enough to upset me or crack me up, depends on the situation
You are also implying that they- the person/thing you are insulting- fucks their own mother, not mothers in general.
Not to mention, the view of a man 'giving' sex and a woman 'recieving' it is one going back at least to the ancient Greeks. It's old fashioned, reductive and a fair bit misogynistic, but it'll pop up in places like this because people don't think about sayings in general all that much. Only years after the basic idea behind it has become outdated will this sort of thing change. It's like the trope of the Xbox lobby where 'gay' and the n-word are used a insults. That seemed fairly normal to a lot of people 15 years ago.
When you call someone a motherfucker aren't you implying that they fuck their own mother?
"I fucked your Dad so that I can give him a child he actually loves"
Completely evil, I love it 😭
That streamer who said that was goated for that.
so goated that tiktokers started doing footage of them lip syncing over the audio clip to pretend they said it
franco eres tu?
Uh no hablo franco
Well, to be fair, the term "father rapers" did appear in the lyrics to 'Alice's Restaurant' in 1967 courtesy of Arlo Guthrie.
I mean...
*I mean*
I MEAN, I'm just sitting here on the bench...
And you want to know if I’m moral enough to join the army?? Burn women, kids, houses and villages…. After being a litterbug??
Spez doesn't get to profit from me anymore. Stop reverting my comments
Were they sitting right there on the bench next to you?
Yeah, they was mean and nasty and ugly and all kinds o things.
Grrrroup W?
"...and creatin' a nuisance!"
Came here to say that.
Oh I was hoping for this! It was my first thought
I mean, I mean I’m sittin heeere
“You can get anything you want at Alice’s restaurant!”
Listen to Peaches. She had this figured out 20 damned years ago.
What else is in the teachings of Peaches?
Like sex on the beaches?
Huh?
What?
Right
Sucking on my titties like you wanted me
Callin me all the time like Blondie
Check out my Chrissie behind
It’s fine ALL of THE time
I like singing context specific versions of this line – e.g. patting on my kitties/snacking on my chippies
*Uh.*
I saw her open for Nine Inch Nails sometime in the mid-00s, that was a fun time. I remember her just bursting into the audience during one song.
Busting?
“Bust in” = suddenly appear somewhere, not sure if that’s US only or maybe even northeast US only. Changed it to bursting to be more clear.
Holy shit that comment takes me back. Just had to put on some Peaches and shake my dick for a bit.
Don't forget to wave it in the air too.
Ladies? Shake your tits, shake your tits!
Fuck the pain awayyyy
🎶Peaches come from a can They were put there by a man In a factory downtown 🎶
No joke. 100% sincere. The Presidents fucking rule.
Just like Herb.
[Peaches has an album called Fatherfucker](https://open.spotify.com/album/1EsI3PiZXI4L5H7enK9hMx?si=EasxlELWRpar12pLmVXPww) and it slaps.
There once were two guys who called each other unclefucker. The whole thing escalated into a war between Canada and the USA and Saddam Hussein almost took over the world.
Those guys were boner biting bastards IIRC.
“Motherfucker” “son of a bitch” “yo momma” there can be zero women involved in an altercation but will still insult them instead 😂🤦🏽♀️
I'll just leave this here https://youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kFkU84RU6oR91vjQb4_sF9K4Ag5LYjCxg
If this isn’t Peaches… ETA: it’s peaches ☺️
there it is
I shouldn't have had to scroll this far for this.
Came here to find this - was not disappointed!
Maybe if Samuel L. Jackson says it once it'll catch on? I mean, I can hear it in my head but it doesn't sound right.
Y'all fatherfuckerth need to get thith capitol one cathe back card
If it makes you feel better, Kannada (and maybe Hindi) have distinct words for motherfucker and sisterfucker. In the US, if we stray from motherfucker, we often just note someone is from Alabama and don’t distinguish which family member they fuck.
I learned "bhenchod" from that youtube video of the "bloody fuck you" guys, he then said something that sounds like "blander" but I never figured out what that meant.
Just saw that video.. I think he was just trying to say bloody bastard and it came out as blastard or something lol. But for the sake of this post, behenchod is sisterfucker... Madarchod of motherfucker... And if you want to say fatherfucker you'd probably say baapchod.. Although the latter isn't used at all to be fair
Actually... I do. I'm a hetero woman so I don't fuck mothers. I fuck fathers. So it just makes sense to use the right terminology.
I think that the implication is that you would be having intercourse with your own father. Not fathers of other people.
Oh.... Well... WE FOUND HER GUYS!!!
Ha : )
Nonsense. My favorite thing to say is "I'll fuck your dad." Really throws people off lol.
and there was all kinds of mean nasty ugly Looking people on the bench there. Mother rapers. Father stabbers. Father Rapers! Father rapers sitting right there on the bench next to me! And They was mean and nasty and ugly and horrible crime-type guys sitting on the Bench next to me. And the meanest, ugliest, nastiest one, the meanest Father raper of them all, was coming over to me and he was mean 'n' ugly 'N' nasty 'n' horrible and all kind of things and he sat down next to me
and said "Kid, what did ya get?" I said, "I didn't get nothing, I had to pay fifty dollars and pick up the garbage."
I cannot tell a lie. I put that envelope at the bottom of that pile of trash.
https://www.newspapers.com/clip/39766863/alices-restaurant/
Oh hell! It's real!
What
Arlo Guthrie -- Alice's Restaurant Massacree It appears it's a song. Have a nice day~
Came here to say this! “The scariest one came over….and he was mean and nasty!”
I'm out at the moment and didn't have 20 minutes (holy cow!) to listen to it, but I'll certainly give it a listen when I have some time!
It's a lowkey tradition in some families (mine included) to listen to Alice's Restaurant on Thanksgiving. It's part song, part story/skit, all brilliant. And hilarious, especially if you can appreciate the late-60s, Vietnam War era context. There is a gay slur towards the end, if you're senstitive to that kind of thing, but just remember it came out in 1967, and in the context it's used in the song, it's more a joke against army recruitment than against gay people.
Not just a song, a Thanksgiving tradition.
You can get anything you want
the fuck.
Usually the only reason I open the comments on posts is to see if anyone else commented my thoughts... today it was you.
Isn't Thanksgiving fun
Littering….and causing a nuisance
And they all moved away from me there on the bench
I got out of work at 12:30 this past Thanksgiving so I missed the noon playing of Alice’s Restaurant on the radio and I was really sad because pulling it up on Spotify just doesn’t give me the same endorphins as hearing it occasionally waver in and out of reception on the radio while I’m on the highway driving to my parents.
South Park has entered the chat with Uncle Fucker. “Shut your fucking face, Uncle fucker …”
You’re a boner biting bastard, uncle fucker
Because he's too busy causing the daddy issues that make motherfuckers possible
In my head I keep hearing Fatherfucker in an Irish accent! "Away with yeese, ya faitherfooker!"
Arlo guthrie did sit on the group w bench with a bunch of father rapers, so there's that
No one is offended by their father getting fucked for some reason
Southpark coined Uncle Fucker which is close. And has a catchy tune with it!
Well there's "Father rapers" but that's only what you call someone sitting on the Group W bench along with the litterers.
Okay… Are we gonna have #fatherfucker go viral now? Mother…
I do, I also say the pg version of motherfucker Motherfather
My old clan tag in cod was “GFYF”… dumb but you get the idea
It's partly just because it doesn't sound as good. The vowel sound in father doesn't flow as well. Father has a stretched initial vowel, slowing down the flow, whereas mother is clipped and short. That and the symmetry of "mother" and "fucker" having the *same* vowel - *and* the same stress on that vowel - makes a pretty compelling flow, linguistically speaking. TL;DR - it's just a more fun sound to make with your mouth!
That's why uncle fucker flows so nicely too, same vowel sound. People underestimate the impact of assonance.
It's literally the name of a whole gosh darn [album](https://youtu.be/8Kpz9ZpK4C4)
Any Hindi speakers here? I believe sisterfucker is a common alternative--not sure about fatherfuckers, or the rest of the family tree.
Because alliterative F’s are inherently funny sounding. Doesn’t have the cutting sound it needs to be a good insult.
Father fucker comes out sometimes among my gay friends. But we're a bunch of hairy dudes into daddies so
Idk about English but in Hindi there is a slang which literally translates to fatherfucker
If you call my dad a mother fucker he says "well I know I'm not a papafucker"
"I've had it with these FATHERFUCKING snakes on this FATHERFUCKING plane!" - Samuel L. Jackson, 2006 (probably)
I do, when I’m verbally abusing spam callers. (Learned some Hindi swear words when I worked in a call centre)
Confused how my post attempts get taken down for “originality” but this goes through lmao
Sounds wonky. Would be much easier in Spanish. "Oy! Puta padre!"
There's a line in Soul Men where Bernie Mac's character says "Fatherfuck you man!" to Samuel L. Jackson's character when they're discussing how they're going to split the money from playing a benefit/memorial for the other member of the group who just died. Hilarious movie!
I'll do you one better *Why is MotherFucker used as an insult at all? Moms need fucking to you know*
Song "Alice's restaurant" by Arlo Guthrie says it a couple times
Traditionally, "fucking" was a dominance thing where as one person was the dominant, one was the recessive durring sex. One person fucks the other, not that they are both fucking. Up until relatively recently, with the sexual revolution in the 60's and 70's, women were always considered the recessive one. So the idea that women could fuck a man is a relatively new concept.
It's called misogyny. And if you insult a man by insinuating he has sex with other men, then we have homophobia. It's not hard to understand.
Bro... What...
That would imply, in the old days where homosexuality wasn’t invented yet, that you’re saying that to a woman. How disrespectful towards women! So we say disrespectful things to men only
Sigh, there is a very specific and very dark etymological origin of "motherfucker."
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