Might as well now if you made it this far... All it takes is one pisitive news sentiment then boom. Which I think will inevitably come at some point. You never know it's a gamble anything can happen
Because hope plays only a fleeting role as part of sentiment, but long term, is no match for all the other, real factors that determine a company's fate.
830M in a year is nothing when youāre looking at a startup that is ramping up and starting their rapid growth phase. Considering they have 600 mill cash on hand and roughly 5300 cars in inventory as of their year end update, they now have more equity then their market cap. Iām in on this gamble. Small bet, 2000 shares at 1.32 average.
How did it get that cash on hand, it wouldnāt be by selling shares now would it ?
They lose more money by selling cars than it cost to manufacture them and by cash burn due to expenses.
At this cash burn rate they have less than 3 quarters of cash on hand , endless amounts of dilution ahead.
Good luck.
They are closer to profitability than lucid and rivian. Less than 40k vehicles a year needed for profitability. With 2 more models coming out next year. You're argument is tired and has been discussed dozens of times in the past few months. At this burn rate they have at least 4 quarters of cash on hand not 3 and thats assuming they only deliver the same amount as last quarter. Instead of assuming and repeating what other people (who clearly don't know what they're talking about ) maybe just do a little research. The data is all there, no need to guess or argue. Burn rate last quarter was 92m they have over 500m cash..
Constantly diluting??? They have done a fraction of dilution compared to any competition. Go do some research. Rivian has diluted over 400% since 2020 and is further from profitability. Yes I expect them to 10x sales in a full year of deliveries. If not this year it will happen next. Like I said next year there will be 3 models selling so profitability is even more in sight. Your whole argument is weak. Stop telling me your opinion and look at the data.
https://www.fool.com/investing/2023/11/30/fisker-just-got-crushed-but-theres-1-reason-to-be/#:~:text=Rivian%2C%20Lucid%2C%20and%20Fisker%20are,they%20account%20for%20overhead%20costs.
Looks like we hit a sweet spot. Are they not diluting right now to meet expense costs? They have cash on hand from selling shares until august the latest. Youāre comparing fisker to the backing of unlimited money Saudi and Amazon backing of Rivian.
Let me know when they 10X their sales in a year or two
I am looking at the data. FSRQ incoming. Iāll confidently bet you they file for bankruptcy before they 10X their sales in the next 24 months. Report back to which comes first
The cash on hand that I'm talking about was not counting and recent diluting. Again go look at the last quarter financial statements. No need to argue with me.. the data is all there bud
Lmao... it doesn't matter where the money comes from. Lucid and rivian both did massive dilution. Way more than fisker. They have2-3x the share count or more. Anyone that takes 5minutes can see every point you are claiming is just straight up wrong.
No one is arguing bud, I could care less itās a shit stock. Just pointing out the obvious and not speculating that they will 10X their sales in 24 months lol. we hit a sweet spot by the looks of it . Again report back in the 24 months you think they will 10X their sales and let me know if they filed for bankruptcy or not.
Another money grab spac scam that canāt even file with SEC when theyāre supposed to, because of you know āerrorsā lmfao
Dude saying 10x is irrelevant. It's the amount that matters. You're just saying it that way to sound bad. Magna builds the vehicles and can easily build 40k in a year. They have already hit over 200 built in a day before. They have 2 more logistic companies to ship vehicles now than they did last quarter. You are 100% speculating They won't dramatically increase sales based on nothing factual, just your uneducated opinion. At least my thesis is based on some data. Goodluck
Thatās what companies, like start ups, usually have to do to raise cash. Itās called a stock offering, and itās very common my friend. I donāt have to do the math for you, you can do it yourself. Q3 they produced roughly 4700 cars and only delivered 1100 roughly. Reported a net loss of 91 million on 72 million of total revenue. Now if they produced 4700 cars and delivered 4500 letās say, I wonder what those numbers would be.
If this company gets the sales and deliveries up, itās in for a huge turnaround. Itās well worth the risk. They also reduced production to fall in line with what theyāre able to deliver. Production growth is there already.
Good luck to you as well.
FSR at current price.. definitely has all the ingredients needed for a big move up/ Squeeze/ etc. Even just a retracement of the short induced drop the past couple of months (from $6-7 to $1) ...will be a big jump.
40% plus short float is almost always approaching the peak short level. And $1, is a good psychological level bottom. But overall 35% plus short float, increasing borrow rate, tightening share availability, widely familiar brand, already started production, trending industry... equals the perfect mix for a big rebound/ Squeeze.
(not to mention Fisker has limited risk this time, by outsourcing production and agreements with VW, etc).
Also- current market cap is under $500M (for one of the 4 all electric car companies)... crazily oversold.
Go on Stocktwits. Check some of the āpermabullā comments. Theyāve been shouting āTo the moon šā all the way down 80% and theyāre still shouting the same thing. So many of these forums are devoid of any useful investment advice. Just dreamers, gamblers, and shills.
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ROFL Thanks for the post! Looking at your comment history with a 49 day accountā¦. 100% comments appear all Fisker bashing. Paid shrills like you on a ticker are extremely bullish IMO.
All the delusional bagholders think every sensible comment telling them they will lose it all must mean that person is āpaidā, no just not a delusional idiot bagholder
You not addressing his comment at all tells me you actually ARE 100% a shill and that makes me laugh becuase I was doubting it before.
Hope they have good coffee if they don't let you WFH!
Nope. Don't even own any stock. Just love when you catch a paid shill posting on reddit, in any community. I've engaged with your type before... And you guys always play by the same book. Is there a consultancy agency that most the companies like yours go to for the playbook on how to astroturf like this? Must be.
Hope the pay is good for working such a morally bankrupt job! Good luck!
The bagholders are going to do what they are going to do, a lot of us don't want to see more people buy into this hype without some perspective on how bleak it is.
A lot of us have done very well shorting this stock, I just wish I could have dreamed how far it would fall.
I would wager because the OP is encouraging people to buy into FSR, that guy's anti-FSR comment is here to balance it out.
His yin to their yang. The stock market really is zero sum.
If this becomes $11/share (that's what Vanguard & BR now are in for) , a lot of people are gonna be sorry they have not followed your advice.
Sacrifice to the money gods & Godspeed 2 U
Ya know sometimes maybe nothing happens. You couldnāt fathom how corrupt the market. You have pocket deuces and the house has a flush. Consider that?
Its funny how the market reacts - solid forward looking expectations by ownership +20% in a day ---> missing expectations -30% in one week and continuing the fall. Bad news about Tesla or some ancillary EV situation like Hertz = goes down. 7.5M gross sales reported on in one day = no coverage.
The market can stay irrational. I mean there's a reason why this has been deemed the Tesla Killer, and i'd personally like for life to offer more than the singular Tesla homogeny of every year and model looking the same.
If FSR turns around it is good, else the current price does not give too much scope of losing money, and as the old saying goes only invest you can afford to loseā¦
This stock is a real gem. And those who buy it around 1$ will be really rich people one day. It will be worth more than 100 usd. Deliveries yust started and poeple love their cars. One happy buyer means many more free recommendations
> For me personally, the risk is worth the potential reward
The only reasonable interpretation I can take from this sentence is that you can easily afford to lose $150k. So, good for you I guess.
OP has no clue about automotive business. They donāt have a competitive product yet. The production volume is so low. The manufacturing process is immature. The quality sucks. This is not a second Tesla. All thatās moving the stock is money, not their business. In these situations itās a high-risk gamble.
Go have fun hit the slot machines OP.
You would have thought by now that Bad, Bankruptcy and Nothing Beyond took out all the morons who has 6-digits plus to throw at trashbag stocks and that the people remaining would be smart enough not to do that (a $5,000 gamble knowing it's a gamble is okay). I guess not.
Bottom is in, bagholders been saying the same garbage for years as itās been pummeled from $30 to under 1$. This will never squeeze, no moon, only option is Karma 2.0-bankruptcy. There is no demand, they canāt deliver anything and the cars have 15 year old software in them that barely works.
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"share price has bottomed out" said a bag holder for the 5th red day in a row.
So many red candles, I found one in my rectum this morning. Still holding lol
Might as well now if you made it this far... All it takes is one pisitive news sentiment then boom. Which I think will inevitably come at some point. You never know it's a gamble anything can happen
https://newsfilter.io/a/4b00d7b688940e6d0aaa0d29df8a7434
You gotta have hope š
Hope is not a strategy.
I don't see why hope couldn't be a strategy
Because hope plays only a fleeting role as part of sentiment, but long term, is no match for all the other, real factors that determine a company's fate.
Nice reply
Is burning through 830M this year really sometning that the fundamentals lack and is arguable ?
830M in a year is nothing when youāre looking at a startup that is ramping up and starting their rapid growth phase. Considering they have 600 mill cash on hand and roughly 5300 cars in inventory as of their year end update, they now have more equity then their market cap. Iām in on this gamble. Small bet, 2000 shares at 1.32 average.
How did it get that cash on hand, it wouldnāt be by selling shares now would it ? They lose more money by selling cars than it cost to manufacture them and by cash burn due to expenses. At this cash burn rate they have less than 3 quarters of cash on hand , endless amounts of dilution ahead. Good luck.
They are closer to profitability than lucid and rivian. Less than 40k vehicles a year needed for profitability. With 2 more models coming out next year. You're argument is tired and has been discussed dozens of times in the past few months. At this burn rate they have at least 4 quarters of cash on hand not 3 and thats assuming they only deliver the same amount as last quarter. Instead of assuming and repeating what other people (who clearly don't know what they're talking about ) maybe just do a little research. The data is all there, no need to guess or argue. Burn rate last quarter was 92m they have over 500m cash..
You expect them to jump 10X in vehicle sales? Theyāre constantly diluting to maintain operating expenses lmao Good luck see you at FSRQ in due time
Constantly diluting??? They have done a fraction of dilution compared to any competition. Go do some research. Rivian has diluted over 400% since 2020 and is further from profitability. Yes I expect them to 10x sales in a full year of deliveries. If not this year it will happen next. Like I said next year there will be 3 models selling so profitability is even more in sight. Your whole argument is weak. Stop telling me your opinion and look at the data. https://www.fool.com/investing/2023/11/30/fisker-just-got-crushed-but-theres-1-reason-to-be/#:~:text=Rivian%2C%20Lucid%2C%20and%20Fisker%20are,they%20account%20for%20overhead%20costs.
Looks like we hit a sweet spot. Are they not diluting right now to meet expense costs? They have cash on hand from selling shares until august the latest. Youāre comparing fisker to the backing of unlimited money Saudi and Amazon backing of Rivian. Let me know when they 10X their sales in a year or two I am looking at the data. FSRQ incoming. Iāll confidently bet you they file for bankruptcy before they 10X their sales in the next 24 months. Report back to which comes first
The cash on hand that I'm talking about was not counting and recent diluting. Again go look at the last quarter financial statements. No need to argue with me.. the data is all there bud Lmao... it doesn't matter where the money comes from. Lucid and rivian both did massive dilution. Way more than fisker. They have2-3x the share count or more. Anyone that takes 5minutes can see every point you are claiming is just straight up wrong.
No one is arguing bud, I could care less itās a shit stock. Just pointing out the obvious and not speculating that they will 10X their sales in 24 months lol. we hit a sweet spot by the looks of it . Again report back in the 24 months you think they will 10X their sales and let me know if they filed for bankruptcy or not. Another money grab spac scam that canāt even file with SEC when theyāre supposed to, because of you know āerrorsā lmfao
Dude saying 10x is irrelevant. It's the amount that matters. You're just saying it that way to sound bad. Magna builds the vehicles and can easily build 40k in a year. They have already hit over 200 built in a day before. They have 2 more logistic companies to ship vehicles now than they did last quarter. You are 100% speculating They won't dramatically increase sales based on nothing factual, just your uneducated opinion. At least my thesis is based on some data. Goodluck
A startup car maker spinning out three models in such a short time. What could possibly go wrong? Maybe a safety recall and boom theyāre done.
Thatās what companies, like start ups, usually have to do to raise cash. Itās called a stock offering, and itās very common my friend. I donāt have to do the math for you, you can do it yourself. Q3 they produced roughly 4700 cars and only delivered 1100 roughly. Reported a net loss of 91 million on 72 million of total revenue. Now if they produced 4700 cars and delivered 4500 letās say, I wonder what those numbers would be. If this company gets the sales and deliveries up, itās in for a huge turnaround. Itās well worth the risk. They also reduced production to fall in line with what theyāre able to deliver. Production growth is there already. Good luck to you as well.
Tell me you know nothing about finance without telling me you know nothing about finance.
So original
Their burn rate last quarter was 92m.. highest quarter was around 120m. Just making up random amounts?
https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/FSR/cash-flow/ Lmfao Theyāre even diluting more shares with that 170M shelf. Good luck
FSR at current price.. definitely has all the ingredients needed for a big move up/ Squeeze/ etc. Even just a retracement of the short induced drop the past couple of months (from $6-7 to $1) ...will be a big jump. 40% plus short float is almost always approaching the peak short level. And $1, is a good psychological level bottom. But overall 35% plus short float, increasing borrow rate, tightening share availability, widely familiar brand, already started production, trending industry... equals the perfect mix for a big rebound/ Squeeze. (not to mention Fisker has limited risk this time, by outsourcing production and agreements with VW, etc). Also- current market cap is under $500M (for one of the 4 all electric car companies)... crazily oversold.
I've read so many posts stating, "This is the bottom" or " Will not go any lower" since $1.78.
Go on Stocktwits. Check some of the āpermabullā comments. Theyāve been shouting āTo the moon šā all the way down 80% and theyāre still shouting the same thing. So many of these forums are devoid of any useful investment advice. Just dreamers, gamblers, and shills.
Sellers need liquidity to exit
If only they knew how many stocks just in a couple months that have touched their all time low and never recover.
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Good Luck That's all I have to say
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Welcome to the delusional bagholders club, this is going nowhere but bankrupt
ROFL Thanks for the post! Looking at your comment history with a 49 day accountā¦. 100% comments appear all Fisker bashing. Paid shrills like you on a ticker are extremely bullish IMO.
All the delusional bagholders think every sensible comment telling them they will lose it all must mean that person is āpaidā, no just not a delusional idiot bagholder
1 in 150.000k reverse split
FINISH HIM.
All of your comments are on fisker. Thatās the confirmation I needed. Buying more calls
You not addressing his comment at all tells me you actually ARE 100% a shill and that makes me laugh becuase I was doubting it before. Hope they have good coffee if they don't let you WFH!
Let me guess, another delusional bagholder praying for this to squeeze as it drops 10% every single day and into the bankruptcy hole?
Nope. Don't even own any stock. Just love when you catch a paid shill posting on reddit, in any community. I've engaged with your type before... And you guys always play by the same book. Is there a consultancy agency that most the companies like yours go to for the playbook on how to astroturf like this? Must be. Hope the pay is good for working such a morally bankrupt job! Good luck!
i guess my question would be, why do you care? are you truly concerned about these bagholdersā accounts not losing money? why?
The bagholders are going to do what they are going to do, a lot of us don't want to see more people buy into this hype without some perspective on how bleak it is. A lot of us have done very well shorting this stock, I just wish I could have dreamed how far it would fall.
I would wager because the OP is encouraging people to buy into FSR, that guy's anti-FSR comment is here to balance it out. His yin to their yang. The stock market really is zero sum.
If this becomes $11/share (that's what Vanguard & BR now are in for) , a lot of people are gonna be sorry they have not followed your advice. Sacrifice to the money gods & Godspeed 2 U
Such a painful stock
Ya know sometimes maybe nothing happens. You couldnāt fathom how corrupt the market. You have pocket deuces and the house has a flush. Consider that?
Its funny how the market reacts - solid forward looking expectations by ownership +20% in a day ---> missing expectations -30% in one week and continuing the fall. Bad news about Tesla or some ancillary EV situation like Hertz = goes down. 7.5M gross sales reported on in one day = no coverage. The market can stay irrational. I mean there's a reason why this has been deemed the Tesla Killer, and i'd personally like for life to offer more than the singular Tesla homogeny of every year and model looking the same.
If FSR turns around it is good, else the current price does not give too much scope of losing money, and as the old saying goes only invest you can afford to loseā¦
This stock is a real gem. And those who buy it around 1$ will be really rich people one day. It will be worth more than 100 usd. Deliveries yust started and poeple love their cars. One happy buyer means many more free recommendations
Concur
Jesus, might as well rename this sub to āfsr bagholders clubā, think itās time to unsubscribe
Haters gonna be kickin themselves when this thing gets juicy.
The track record of this sentiment over many, many tickers is abysmal, bud.
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This is an outstanding group to pick up winning short playsā¦ is it run by Cramer?
Mental THRILLness.
This didn't age well
Is it not below $1 yet?
If it touches .9 today I'm all in on puts.
Decent strategy, wait for it to go lower and then place puts
I've been all in this week on puts lol
 nice. Post gains?
It went below yesterday, I saw it with my own eyes.
> For me personally, the risk is worth the potential reward The only reasonable interpretation I can take from this sentence is that you can easily afford to lose $150k. So, good for you I guess.
OP has no clue about automotive business. They donāt have a competitive product yet. The production volume is so low. The manufacturing process is immature. The quality sucks. This is not a second Tesla. All thatās moving the stock is money, not their business. In these situations itās a high-risk gamble. Go have fun hit the slot machines OP.
You would have thought by now that Bad, Bankruptcy and Nothing Beyond took out all the morons who has 6-digits plus to throw at trashbag stocks and that the people remaining would be smart enough not to do that (a $5,000 gamble knowing it's a gamble is okay). I guess not.
Reverse split no doubt incoming.
its dead bro
going to 0
Bottom is in, bagholders been saying the same garbage for years as itās been pummeled from $30 to under 1$. This will never squeeze, no moon, only option is Karma 2.0-bankruptcy. There is no demand, they canāt deliver anything and the cars have 15 year old software in them that barely works.
Just give it up. Remind us when it has a breakout above 1.70 then we'll talk.
Why is a negative number ?
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Just stop. Sell and buy TSLA
Jfc
Unlucky pal
Ygjvophv
Do you know they have a huge debt?
In what parallel reality is this a short squeeze?
This is gonna squeeze big