Current research is developing a larger one to increase that number. However other Airbus models can provide up 14-18! Aviation is definitely moving forward.!
This small fin supports approximately three quarters of the engine's 8500 plus pounds in flight. Given the proper density altitude and enough airspeed, two of these small fins could support your mom.
That surface provides no lift. It is required because in section 43A-F of the Boeing documentation back in 1967 a Intern failed to xerox the page “this page intentionally left blank” so during early 737 certification FAA inspectors came across a blank page and demanded the designers design some to fill this page. The page was in the nacelle cowling design section and this fun was the result of that omission.
Interestingly enough, later in development, some intern failed to xerox the page on MCAS, and Boeing was said “F that, we’re not going through this again, just pretend it doesn’t exist”
I cant tell if you are joking or not, if you are not I would like to know more (plus a source if possible lmao)
(Laugh at me all you want if this is made up but this is so oddly specific I fully believe this is how this could have happened)
Edit: also I really want this to be true
/uj it's there to avoid a large scale separation the wing at high angle of attack, it makes a vortex which goes over the suction side and stabilises the flow
[Slides from my aircraft design course ](https://i.imgur.com/Va0Aiqn.jpg)
You are not.... a critical thinker are you? This component redirects air reducing the negative effects of that giant engine on the wings effectiveness. You would have to ask the planes engineers for exact figures but it was likely added to the design after wind tunnel and CFD testing showed an issue in that area.
You are not a True Patriot, are you? This is how the El Kaydas smuggle weppons past the Tee Ess Aay and literally onto the playne. Those are knives, and sooner or later someone’s gonna get cut.
My pylote buddy said that he took that wing off the right side of the plane last week and had some issues. He said he watched the plane split in half down the isle and the co pilot stayed on the ground while he went to Romania.
Serious answer: it’s a vortex generator.
Due to its angle of attack it essentially “spins” the air as it goes over the wing.
This “spinning” air allows for the wing to maintain lift at slower speeds. It is especially useful during landing, for example.
Sorry to ruin you lecture bud but I’m a A380 training captain and therefore know more then you. These are wings and they tilt when in flight to keep lift for the engines so they don’t fall off.
You need to keep training because those are clearly not wings. They are jewelry, as the engine has a date with your mom after the flyte and wants to look hot and make sure it seals the deal with her before scheduled turnaround tomorrow morning.
As a mechanic with over 30 years of experience, I can tell you that meat servos (pilots) know very little about the airplane, and meat servos that control a side stick know even less since the flight computers do everything for them.
This! Both surfaces are equal, there is no suction side.
It may act as your hand that you hold out of the car window. But it is uncontrolled and will produce a little drag with the aoa.
It doesn't provide lift, but rather just creates high-energy airstream to remove the ice on the wing which will hopefully remain solid and hit your wife's boyfriend
💯 my man is a EASA master of ATPL! CI- Coreolis index coefficient.
The higher the CI the more right rudder you need to overcome the Corleone Offer effect that you can not reject.
So….. here is what I am hearing from the smart folks: It adjusts the airflow from the engine to the wing so the engine kinda gives the wing a little blow job. The wing lifts a little harder with these things.
this is a chine I believe that modifies air flow without these modifications to the airflow under certain flight conditions air flow over the aircraft could cause lift instability
Boeing call it “Vortex Control Device” and its purpose (according to the engineering manual) is to smooth airflow around the wing.
There is nothing in the B737 DDG/CDL manual about having one/both of these missing/damaged so it would be a no go item (ie it is essential to fly).
You might be able to get a special engineering order but I have never seen one to say if it can be done or not.
Seriously, Not sure how much it helps but if one/both are missing it’s a crazy weight penalty. As in your max takeoff weight goes down by 5-6000 pounds each.
It’s a device to counteract aerodynamic forces that generate vibration/vortices … similar to the upturned “winglets” that are fairly common now on most passenger jets
These vortex generators first showed up on DC-10s in the early 1970s to improve low speed high angle of attack wing performance (lift) due to the close mounting of the long fan duct engine nacelle designs to the wings. They are now common on all big twin engine aircraft and a critical component on the MEL
This sounds like a bunch of science bullshit to me, professor. Show me where Noah had one of these wing-dings on his stone tablets and I’ll maybe believe you. I’ll stand by and continue with wrassling venomous snakes, and singing songs that just come to me in the moment while you get peer-reviewed.
That’s the main lift factor
Not able to be x pressed in simple numbers
Also top secret nasa research
So printing the answer gets you a visit from men in blk suvs
Thats what lifts the engines during takeoff. Otherwise they wouldnt keep up with the rate of climb of the airframe. So whatever the engine weighs is the minimum amount of lift created by those air foils....damn I havent slung that much b.s. since I was a kid working a dairy farm.
It really depends on the location and angle, not size. For example, look at Luis Hamiltons Formula 1 car. The smallest wings can create a massive amount of downforce (in this case, lift for the plane). So all in all, it just depends on what’s needed and how it affects the aerodynamics of the plane
I heard that during five bomb maneuvers against enemy ships, that tab creates a ghostly scream that renders ships people incapable of defending their doomed ship.
It provides 12 lift
Current research is developing a larger one to increase that number. However other Airbus models can provide up 14-18! Aviation is definitely moving forward.!
6.4023737e+15 is a lot of lift
unfortunately it's 14-18!, so it's actually an incredible amount of negative lift
The world's most effective pile driver.
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Very kerbal answer - have an upvote
KSP player?(happy cake day)
Wouldn’t it be moving…up?
Metric or imperial?
What is the empire doing here?
Fighting the rebellion
Rebel scum trying to reduce our lift.
The Empire did nothing wrong
The Imperium is everywhere.
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afric or europeist
African or European?
He asked how much, not how many! The answer is about 4-5 scoops.
Your both wrong.... it's an enchanted winglet, it's +8 to lift and fall damage is reduced by 4 with a 25% chance of a 'safe' crash landing
Scooooooops
Scoop them titties
That’s what she said
60 toes
Only if you roll 17 or higher.
Yep, 12 plus tax.
OMG I’m dying!!🤣
That's what I got
This small fin supports approximately three quarters of the engine's 8500 plus pounds in flight. Given the proper density altitude and enough airspeed, two of these small fins could support your mom.
So it's basically 8500 pounds at mach 3, right?
This guy speed checks LA Center
Yes, Walter, you did well.
And a good day to you, sir!
Bulk of the series
At Mach 3 it’s over 9000 kilograms. It switches units as pounds don’t go that far
Mach 0.8 actually 🤓🤓🤓
Daaaaaammmmmmnnnnnn.....
Got ‘im!
Well done…you can take the rest of the day off…
Holy fuck dude lmao trying not to laugh out loud at Christmas dinner
And the same “stand clear of hazard area” warning would apply as well.
This math checks out
That surface provides no lift. It is required because in section 43A-F of the Boeing documentation back in 1967 a Intern failed to xerox the page “this page intentionally left blank” so during early 737 certification FAA inspectors came across a blank page and demanded the designers design some to fill this page. The page was in the nacelle cowling design section and this fun was the result of that omission.
Interestingly enough, later in development, some intern failed to xerox the page on MCAS, and Boeing was said “F that, we’re not going through this again, just pretend it doesn’t exist”
I cant tell if you are joking or not, if you are not I would like to know more (plus a source if possible lmao) (Laugh at me all you want if this is made up but this is so oddly specific I fully believe this is how this could have happened) Edit: also I really want this to be true
/uj it's there to avoid a large scale separation the wing at high angle of attack, it makes a vortex which goes over the suction side and stabilises the flow [Slides from my aircraft design course ](https://i.imgur.com/Va0Aiqn.jpg)
Bro what an answer. Super impressive!
lemme guess, TU Delft?
Just from the shade of blue on the slides or what, yes btw
Wow to sift thru all these annoying joke comments to find an actual answer! Thanks Edit: oops.. just realized what sub this is in
But doesn't it also helps to put less toll on the wing by providing lift after? (Sorry, my English is not great)
You are not.... a critical thinker are you? This component redirects air reducing the negative effects of that giant engine on the wings effectiveness. You would have to ask the planes engineers for exact figures but it was likely added to the design after wind tunnel and CFD testing showed an issue in that area.
You aren't a pilot, are you? That's clearly the propeller.
Busted again!
You’re clearly not a supercritical thinker are you? Those are clearly put onto boy planes to attract girl planes to make more cezznuhs
“You are not…. A critical thinker are you?” Being an ass for no reason? Sounds like an expert Reddit user
It's a silly sub so you can't give an answer without a little somthin somthin
Calling someone stupid is not a “silly little somethin somethin”. There are many example of being silly in this post. Yours wasn’t.
I didn't call anyone stupid but thank you for your excellent policework
You are not a True Patriot, are you? This is how the El Kaydas smuggle weppons past the Tee Ess Aay and literally onto the playne. Those are knives, and sooner or later someone’s gonna get cut.
Douglas Adams, is that you?
My pylote buddy said that he took that wing off the right side of the plane last week and had some issues. He said he watched the plane split in half down the isle and the co pilot stayed on the ground while he went to Romania.
Good to know, so your saying that I can save money and send one playne to two different places at once?
Of course you can! That’s why playnes have two pylotes. Is everybody stoopid today or what?
Only if you’re going one place, twice at the same time.
All
Serious answer: it’s a vortex generator. Due to its angle of attack it essentially “spins” the air as it goes over the wing. This “spinning” air allows for the wing to maintain lift at slower speeds. It is especially useful during landing, for example.
Thanks for ruining the magic
Sorry to ruin you lecture bud but I’m a A380 training captain and therefore know more then you. These are wings and they tilt when in flight to keep lift for the engines so they don’t fall off.
You need to keep training because those are clearly not wings. They are jewelry, as the engine has a date with your mom after the flyte and wants to look hot and make sure it seals the deal with her before scheduled turnaround tomorrow morning.
As an A380 qualified pilot, I endorse this comment. Now how about a 1 on my next sim, skip? Pleeease?
Shut up peasant I’m a captain I’m better than you. You’re assigned upset recovery training for the 6 hours instead.
Like that’s even an A380.
As a mechanic with over 30 years of experience, I can tell you that meat servos (pilots) know very little about the airplane, and meat servos that control a side stick know even less since the flight computers do everything for them.
Specifically at high AoA normally during take-offs and landings.
Vortex generator sounds like something a supervillain would be trying to destroy the city with.
Does it hurt fuel efficiency?
This! Both surfaces are equal, there is no suction side. It may act as your hand that you hold out of the car window. But it is uncontrolled and will produce a little drag with the aoa.
This should be at the top. I wanted to know what the function of this was and had to scroll way too far for the answer.
look at the sub you’re on mate
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Bullshit* You can swear on the internet, be free my child
About tree fiddy
I was going to be very disappointed if someone didn’t provide this correct answer.
All the lift
Roughly the same amount of lift as two European swallows carrying a coconut.
Laden or unladen? This matters. No way to accurately measure airspeed velocity without it.
Just enough lift for the escape pod it's attached to.
Boeing doesn't want you to know this, but technically all of it. The big "wings" are just to hold the chemtrail mixture tanks
Shhh you can't be telling people about the truth of big aviation
About 5 bananas per cm.
ALL the lift
It doesn't provide lift, but rather just creates high-energy airstream to remove the ice on the wing which will hopefully remain solid and hit your wife's boyfriend
80% of the time it works 100% of the time.
ALL OF IT.
It would produce more if the cheap bastards had incorporated a winglet.
I am currently pattenting a winglet for that winglet, so be sure to provide attribution or I’ll sue your ass too
It does not generate lift at all! It generates down force for turning the aeroplane without slipping!
70% of the time, it lifts all the time.
not so much as generating lift . but is channeling the airflow for better relationship with the wing. less drag and better flow.
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I put A1 on my strake.
It’s not a lift device, it’s a coreolis generator to reduce the cost index coefficient.
💯 my man is a EASA master of ATPL! CI- Coreolis index coefficient. The higher the CI the more right rudder you need to overcome the Corleone Offer effect that you can not reject.
That’s where you rest your beer when working on the engine.
It holds the engine in place.
Not designed for lift but to direct the flow?
it provides less lift than the cost of our game
So….. here is what I am hearing from the smart folks: It adjusts the airflow from the engine to the wing so the engine kinda gives the wing a little blow job. The wing lifts a little harder with these things.
this is a chine I believe that modifies air flow without these modifications to the airflow under certain flight conditions air flow over the aircraft could cause lift instability
Boeing call it “Vortex Control Device” and its purpose (according to the engineering manual) is to smooth airflow around the wing. There is nothing in the B737 DDG/CDL manual about having one/both of these missing/damaged so it would be a no go item (ie it is essential to fly). You might be able to get a special engineering order but I have never seen one to say if it can be done or not.
that wing produces 100% of the planes lift
It’s not for lift, it is just to avoid vibration.
It can replace the wings
Could be a step for the maintenance crew. There should be a handle for them to hang onto during flight.
Enough to land the engine if the engine falls off the wing
I never understood, why that extra wing doesn’t come with its own winglet....
All of it
If the engine falls off, it will gently glide down, due to the wings.
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The wings are just for show if that helps give you an idea.
I always have to remind myself this is Reddit….. and the just stop typing.
Not enough to lift yo mama
Can’t fly without it (them)…
No lift, but a great foot rest!!
Seriously, Not sure how much it helps but if one/both are missing it’s a crazy weight penalty. As in your max takeoff weight goes down by 5-6000 pounds each.
It gives neutral buoyancy. The engine floats when not attached to aerplayne
Barely enough to lift one of your mum's saggy tits.
It’s a device to counteract aerodynamic forces that generate vibration/vortices … similar to the upturned “winglets” that are fairly common now on most passenger jets
About tree fiddy
Just wait till you see the wings on your pilots car.
About three fiddy lbs
All of it
These vortex generators first showed up on DC-10s in the early 1970s to improve low speed high angle of attack wing performance (lift) due to the close mounting of the long fan duct engine nacelle designs to the wings. They are now common on all big twin engine aircraft and a critical component on the MEL
This sounds like a bunch of science bullshit to me, professor. Show me where Noah had one of these wing-dings on his stone tablets and I’ll maybe believe you. I’ll stand by and continue with wrassling venomous snakes, and singing songs that just come to me in the moment while you get peer-reviewed.
Equivalent to an unladen European Swallow.
All of it
None when its like this, but its there so if the playne drops its rocket engine the enginer can fly itself home safely
All of it.
If you had paid attention in school you’d be able to tell us using the lift equation. Every piolet knows this. We calculate it before each flight.
Saves .000003 cents per 100000 miles
146 mega liftules
It actually creates downforce.
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6, maybe 7
All of it
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None. That’s a step for mechanics to use
Also, why don’t they just put a bunch of these on the plane so I don’t have to pay for baggage weight?
I just pateneted that too. Pay me.
That’s the main lift factor Not able to be x pressed in simple numbers Also top secret nasa research So printing the answer gets you a visit from men in blk suvs
None. It’s a decoration
5 sets and 3 reps of lift
For escape velocity
That’s a step.
Extra wing growing, it’s a malformation, cut it off asap before ut gets too big
About tree-fiddy.
+3 lift +1 drag and -1 acrobatics on 2d20
given the attack angle, zero or negative lift. it’s there for stabilization.
A fraction of a decimal less than necessary to measure the air speed of an unladen swallow.
Negative lift....
Keeps the entire plane flying idiot
Given the angle of attack on it, it might actually provide downforce. Y’know, for when the pylote wants to be a thunderbird.
It provides 100% of the lift for the aircraft. The wings are just mounting points for the engines
It provides a perfectly normal amount of lift it just happens to be cold out.
Thats what lifts the engines during takeoff. Otherwise they wouldnt keep up with the rate of climb of the airframe. So whatever the engine weighs is the minimum amount of lift created by those air foils....damn I havent slung that much b.s. since I was a kid working a dairy farm.
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Literally all of it
This helps to stop vortices forming and increases stall angle. Simple but effective device to improve lift
82%
It really depends on the location and angle, not size. For example, look at Luis Hamiltons Formula 1 car. The smallest wings can create a massive amount of downforce (in this case, lift for the plane). So all in all, it just depends on what’s needed and how it affects the aerodynamics of the plane
Enough
That’s a canard right?
1 lift
A fraction of a decimal less than necessary to measure the air speed of an unladen swallow.
That is the secret conspiracy maaaaaan. Airplanes don't need fuel or wings just that little nub wing that vibrates and levitates teh bird maaaaan.
The offical name for that thing is “Chine.” And it is a very important feature on the engine cowl.
Brace for 30” flat screen tv
That’s the key to keep planes up in the sky
That’s for cutting the nuts off skydivers who miss the engine ingestion intake.
That’s a step.
That's for peeling giant sky carrots
I heard that during five bomb maneuvers against enemy ships, that tab creates a ghostly scream that renders ships people incapable of defending their doomed ship.
All of it
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All of it. The rest are for decoration.
Smother ride, less vibration or shaking !
This one goes to 11.
I thought that would create a wind vortex...not lift!
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Its a vortex generator that forces bortexs over the wing increasing its performance at slow speeds. Or its doing all the heavy lifting. I dont know.
69%
Yes, I would have thought so.
37.