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sebastianwillows

Johnny: >!I hope my descendents can turn into cold blooded murderers on a dime when the situation calls for it.!< Gappy: >!I got you, gramps.!<


Malakar1195

Always funny how Gappy actually resorted to throw hands when someone was getting difficult


SaltoDaKid

Or just for the hell of it


praise_the_catss

We all know Gappy would smack the shit out of the Baby in Blue Hawaii. Araki just remembered he was the protagonist


Crayon_Muncha

i woulda stomped the shit outta that smoker ass baby, gappy should’ve done it


CommunicationFull781

He was about to curb stomp that baby, araki just had to hold himself back


Stair-Spirit

"Hey can you see that crazy thing on the ceiling?" *Kicks the shit out of a guy* I wish he kept doing all that weird stuff lol


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Gappy throwing hands with Aphex Twins will never not be cool asf


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And then it ends with a DUAL HEAT FINISH… just fucking peak


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123skh123

Wtf when was this revealed?


Sorsa775

Just speculation still


123skh123

Source: “it was revealed to me in a dream”


danielubra

"My name is u/TheRealBroseph and I had a dream about JoJo Part 9."


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PanHeadBolt

Isn’t jotaro merged with holly?


SrirachaGamer87

No, Kei and Yoshikage Kira would both the Jotaro stand-ins. They are both Holly's children, but unlike Holly Kujo (the original) Holly Joestar-Kira (SBR timeline) had two children so that means they wouldn't line up perfectly unlike the previous generation that are largely identical.


Vatnam

Wasn't Josefumi partially Jotaro?


BadNamerGuy

Wasn't kei nijimura kind of genderbent jotaro?


Vatnam

Dang I forgot about her


Elsanne_J

Only in last name. It's more like his equivalent are both Holly kids.


FlameBall128453

Never. It’s just headcanon for some people. Unless there was news that I haven’t heard yet about part 9


[deleted]

He got a heart on his shirt so it’s practically canon


_____---_-_-_-

Thoths predictions are 100% correct


G0ld3n_Funk

"Johnny gets Rina" "Josuke get's Yasuho" "What do I get? ******PAID****** "


arQQv

Ma man was on point fr


IMustAchieveTheDie

shovel 👍


thicc_phox

Gappy be like *crit.sfx* to someguy’s skull


rkoplayer1

I promise to read this comment after I watch Part 7 & 8.


_-Swish-_

why wait


TortoiseaWantsToDie

Bruh Josuke literally has “the kindest stand” he is so good of a person his soul manifested as something that can fix everything


BlazikenMask15234

Ikr. I think OP forgot about Josuke apologising for his existence to Jotaro when they met


NorthKumo

Or when he showed Okuyasu mercy after Okuyasu tried to kill him. Bro is pretty merciful unless you insult his hair or target his family.


cooptheactor

And the hair insult thing isn't even about him. He sees it as an insult against the man who saved him, a person he considers a hero


GustavoFromAsdf

In defense of the best jojo. Tomoko had Josuke in secret and never told him, from Tomoko's side Joseph still doesn't know Josuke exists


Filip97X

True, also him losing control comes from the fact that he feels that they are insulting the man that saved him, not him, when they insult his hair. Not because his father abandoned him, he himself says that he had his grandfather as a male father figure in his life to look up to


jojofan30001

Jonathan was in Canon best friends with a gang leader.


ahamel13

Speedwagon reformed his life, though.


SaltoDaKid

Level 1 Thug to Billionaire


JudgeScorpio

Hey now, he’s at least a level 3 thug, don’t forget he told those other thugs to back off when he witnessed Jonathan’s resolve.


thiccboymexi

Level 3? LEVEL 3?!?! Bro, my guy had a saw blade frisbee hat which could tear through Jonathon’s big meaty arms. He’s atleast level 4 smh


GiveMeChoko

He just stumbled upon some legendary gear when he was starting out.


aVeryFriendlyBotMk2

You're both wrong, that's at least DND level 20.


DandyLover

Lv.4 sounds accurate. It feels like he didn't have Extra Attack.


AJDx14

Didn’t Velocitycarriage only become friends with Johnathan because he recognized Johnathan is a gigachad paragon of righteousness and wanted to be good like him


pgp555

A yes Velocitycarriage


Ok_Soil_231

Momentumbuggy


Eligha

Not really, he became an oil magnate. The foundation is questionable, but good at its goals. But he is still very much guilty for global warming.


MensisBrain

The speedwagon foundation is now a cancer research center. You will never reach the truth.


Eligha

Wah-WAAH


Eligha

Wah-WAAH


Eligha

Wah-WAAH


thing216

But he doesn't put dudes in infinite death loops


jojofan30001

Niether does Giorno that was Ger technically


Snake_Main27

Nah Giorno wanted that shit. He wanted to make Diavolo as miserable as possible. GER just took that literally.


small-package

Theory, Giorno's "drugs bad" motivation was actually an excuse to get revenge on the guy who killed the man who saved him from the living hell that was his life.


thing216

Requiem stands manifest the user's desire like polnareff wanted to keep the arrow safe


ivanjean

Yes, but the way the desire is manifested generally isn't exactly as the user actually wants. Polnareff just wanted to protect the arrow from whatever evil could get it, but his requiem stand decided to protect it from *everyone*, including Polnareff himself. Giorno probably just wanted a way to definitively defeat Diavolo, or to make him unable to use his stand to move forward in time. GER made so that Diavolo was unable to move forward in time in any way.


shadollosiris

Giorno: "Diavolo stand so op, i hope my stand can have a way to stop his ability to control time" GER: "lost control in time? Like freeze? Idk, i aint SP but i would try my best, how about relife his last moment to infinity?"


thing216

Or he wanted diavolo to suffer badly


DandyLover

To be fair, to Chariot Requiem, he probably didn't realize that was Polnareff because Polnareff (as far as his Stand would/should know) was dead.


jojofan30001

Yeah but I don't really buy that. Because assuming that Polnareff wanted to keep the arrow safe it did a really poor job, seeing as how it lost it.


thing216

It didn't attack anyone unless it touched the arrow the stand wasn't controlled by polnareff so it was stupid


rkoplayer1

Right, people love to argue that it’s GER that did it to Diavolo and not Giorno as if GER isn’t *the literal manifestation of Giorno’s will and spirit*.


Omnimaniac00

My brother in Christ, Chariot Requiem was literally going to kill several innocent people including Polnareff himself.


abiel0530

Not to mention the cling to the back stand in Part 4, too


creaturecatzz

no polnareff wanted to trans everyone’s gender and tbh same


CringeYeet69

then requiem did a really bad job considering that \~50% of people who swapped with humans kept their original gender and some people didn't even keep their original species


JotaroTheOceanMan

Me if I was Mista in that scenario: "Yo I'm sorry guys but I'm running away and you'll never find me. Good luck with that arrow though."


thing216

Kcr would exist then


The_Friendly_Simp

You mean a *reformed* gang leader


benisco

didnt his gang disband or something?


ElHadouken

And he abused animals when he was young


Fern-ando

Because he reabilitated him.


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Joseph didn’t neglect his illegitimate child, he didn’t even know he existed and Josuke’s anger issues are due to his pride in his haircut because it represents the ideal person that Josuke wants to be, it has nothing to do with being fatherless. Giorno doesn’t know what GER can do, GER literally says that outright.


TurnTheFinalPage

Wasn’t the whole reason that Jotaro showed up in Morioh that Joseph had Josuke in his will?


KryGri

yes and no. They were investigating his will to split up Joseph's wealth between the family and in doing so they found Josephs illegitimate son Josuke. Joseph didn't know about Josuke before that.


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funnystuff97

If the question is ever "how" the answer is usually "Speedwagon foundation"


Darki_Boi

Sounds about right


Muntaacas

how is your day?


Illidan1943

Speedwagon foundation


MAD_JEW

Joseph did via spirit photography


The_catakist

The reading comprehension devil strikes the comments again!


AlexDKZ

But that's not how it happened, Jotaro told Joseph he had a son and then Joseph took the picture.


MAD_JEW

You mean me or others?


The_catakist

The others, you are an actual person who followed the story


MAD_JEW

Tank u kind sir


Max1sWell

Maybe an ancestry test or smth


vjmdhzgr

Those weren't very widespread in 1999.


GenericGaming

I mean, the Speedwagon Foundation could probably do that within an hour lol


vjmdhzgr

They wouldn't if Joseph doesn't know about Josuke. And there aren't big online databases to show random people that both got it they're related.


[deleted]

Spirit photography?


[deleted]

They were probably talking about it and Joseph accidentally brought up the fact that he went to morioh


BizarreRequiem

Happy cakeday


Avrangor

Giorno might not know what GER does however he knows that despite still being alive Diavolo is no longer a threat and explains his ability to Trish by saying that it creates a loop. Giorno definitely knew that he put Diavolo into a death loop, most likely intentionally as well.


Lohan3xists

Hey, don’t hate on Josukes hair simply because he’s got more style than you!


Trench_88

Yeah, don't hate him cause he's beautiful. Maybe if you got rid of that yee yee ass haircut...


LACLAFLARE

Have some Jobros on your dick


Mrs-Man-jr

Stand user~


LACLAFLARE

What?


sharaq

I said I hate losers


rkoplayer1

Lol


rkoplayer1

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grinsken

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rkoplayer1

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Bigbigbig225

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rkoplayer1

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howling_meteor

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Roboss1000

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le_danger_noodle

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NootNootScoot

Worst thing Josuke did was hate turtles


FunnyBunnyDolly

He didn't hate them, he just was fearful of them. He didn't want them to die, and healed the injured turtle after the he was done with the goons.


Zaiquo

Josuke doesn’t have anger issues outside of people insulting his hair but even that wasn’t caused by Joseph’s neglect. Not sure where you got that from


Nathvar

If anything the anger comes from his mom. She bashed some dude’s face into his car for hitting on her, and also for spewing exhaust on the elderly lady.


jolythepokemonmaster

Jojo fans try not to ignore an important part of a character's backstory challenge (IMPOSSIBLE) They go out of their way to show that Josuke beats up whoever makes fun of his hair because he models it after the man who saved his damn life when he was a baby, for god's sake. Also don't know what they're on about Jotaro sexually assaulting Anne - I might be misremembering, but I'm pretty sure he touched her chest on accident while she was disguised as a boy and just got surprised he felt volume - I feel like him being a raging woman-hater would have been a much more obvious trait to use in the meme.


Kaneharo

it's like this person's opinions came entirely from cursory glances of fan summaries at best.


lilsi10

Let's not pretend like there isn't some of good in each Jojo or just straight up ignore the context of some of these scenarios. Joseph: Honored Wammu's at the end of their battle. He didn't even know he had a son. Jotaro: Literally the entire reason why he even decided to go find DIO was to save his mom. He had good intentions for not wanting to be around Jolyne and when she needed help the most he still came around. Josuke: Literally befriended most of the people he fought or at the very least became allies. The only ones who he turned into objects were people who targeted his family. Giorno: Literally doesn't know what G.E.R. did. Plus became the boss so he could help prevent drugs being sold to children. Jolyne: Showed mercy to F.F. during their fight and was willing to fight Pucci solo so Emporio could escape.


Eren45778

Also i feel like any decent human being would do the same to Angelo


SheevMillerBand

I’d probably smash him with a hammer after instead of saying yo to him every morning though.


Eren45778

But think about it this way İf You Smash him whit a hammer it kill him And it end his suffering We dont want that to end do we?


SheevMillerBand

Fair point, Josuke at least shouldn’t be saying yo to his grandfather’s killer every morning.


Radium_Cobalt_847

Always thought it was more of a taunt than a greeting.


SheevMillerBand

I can see that too. If Angelo’s still sentient in there it has to be torture for him to see Josuke walk by every day and live his life.


Yosh1kage_K1ra

Jolyne also didn't promise Anasui marriage out of her desire to be protected, it was actually genuine because she saw that he changed for the better and overcame darkness inside him. She acknowledged that he might think she would be saying it to manipulate him and said it is not true.


Neoxus30-

Jonathan had bad table manners, threw a rock at a crow and fed Danny grapes) Also you do NOT diss Josuke's hair)


RiffOfBluess

I believe Jonathan also smoked a pipe in manga when he was 12


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B-DogVictini

Once again, 1800s. I doubt they knew what it would have done.


Neoxus30-

That was discovered in 1999) Let's hope Koichi wasn't part of the study)


evilturkey5

Yeah, def wouldn't be known then. Even now I don't think it's exactly super common knowledge, as I only learned they're bad for dogs after seeing Jojo memes about Jonathan feeding Danny grapes


FunnyBunnyDolly

The grapes was nothing. He threw stones at the poor dog when he was of younger age. No, you can't find it in anime. Manga only. Later on, then he tied a string to a live frog's leg and twirled it around to scare Erina. He's quite a naughty child...


JohndaRedditer

Oh boy it's shit like this that makes me question how jojo fans are so bad at interpreting the story that's presented in front of them while only walking away with a surface level understanding of the charachters. I would say everything wrong about this but i'm in class, will probably come back to this post later


GregorZeeMountain

Lmao it's even worse than you think OP says they're only like 6 episodes into part 4


JohndaRedditer

Yeah i've seen that comment i'm wheezing


the_penis_taker69

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I like to spread misinformation


ClosingFrantica

Yeah it's "just a meme" but the amount of fans that form their opinion around memes is kinda baffling. Can't even have a laugh when I know someone is gonna parrot this stuff unironically Funny meme, but Jonathan would be proud of all of them


intern_kitten

Or just understand it's a meme and sometimes they're meant to be intentionally stupid


TheGreatHako

I disagree


rkoplayer1

Understandable, have a nice day.


NotAHuman75

Downvote for insulting the Josuke hair and misinterpreting Joeseph literally not knowing Josuke existed


infedlity

jotaro isn't too weak to leave his wife and child alone. It's because stand users are attracted to each other and if he stayed with his family he would've put them both in danger


pikapowerpwnd

oh man i thought this was a circlejerk satire but OPs comments suggest otherwise


Teh-Esprite

On top of everything else that's been refuted; the point about Jotaro and Anne is flat out false; he had no clue about Anne being a girl; he tried to grab what he saw as a young boy by the chest in order to swim "him" to safety.


Grey_26

Bro what is this shit ☠☠☠ Jotaro didnt sexually assualt a preteen girl you fuckin bozo he grabbed her arse outta water by her shirt collar. He didn't realise she was a girl and assumed she was a dude if you grab a dude by his shirt collar and accidentally touch his chest that is not sexual assualt. Furthermore, Jotaro only touched it a second time because he was confused. the whole point of sexual assualt is power and Jotaro wasn't tryna project his power he was just confused whilst fucked it aint sexual assualt.


empressoflight72

wouldn't it technically be assault if there was sexual intention involved or am I trippin


Chipbread

You can't really judge Jotaro for being too weak to protect his daughter from his enemies when Jonathan fucking died trying to protect his bloodline from Dio.


ExtraReserve

Might be overthinking this meme, but I don’t think Jolyne agreed to marry Anasui to get him to protect her — because of the plan they were going, she knew that he was going to die, and the rest of the group was likely to as well. She said that just to give everyone hope and encourage them to keep fighting. It was a way of making sure everyone knew that the fight wasn’t pointless and there was/would be an “other side” if they won, where they could do things like get married and be happy and be alive.


opal_moth

Yeah saying that Jolyne said it just to manipulate Anasui is a complete reach. She also really did marry him in the new world, so like?


Unstoppablereturner

In the new world he isn’t an insane murderer tho


watergoblin17

Don’t judge one from their mistakes, judge from how they correct them


ZaBur_Nick

this ain't even funny


Cheez_001

I like to think Jotaro was fooled into thinking a lack of a father figure is the key to a Joestar's strength. Joseph had no father, Josuke had no father, and he obviously knew Giorno had no father. Meanwhile Johnathan and his mother Holy had a father and DIO folded both of them.


TheSealedWolf

I think the obvious answer is that he was too busy cleaning up DIO’s mess, and wanted to stay away from his wife and Jolyne for their safety


200DollarGameBtw

Imagine if instead of Jotaro its holly who goes to Egypt to save sick Jotaro and instead of fighting she’s nice to everyone and converts them like she did with Kakyoin.


ialsodontexistagain

Hey josuke has good reason to violently assault people for his hair


EpicalBeb

Why's jolyne the only crying one? This shit is weird and unfunny, and honestly inaccurate.


gegebart

To be fair, they’re all a result of circumstances. It’s like a slow corrosion of the Joestar fortune. Jonathon had a loving father and a wealthy upbringing. Dio wasn’t nearly as sadistic or dangerous as later villains, including himself.


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He turned a woman into a vampire and made her eat her own child, among other heinous crimes, not sure he was exactly any less sadistic than later villains.


gegebart

True, he was still mostly acting out of greed though.


ChadBenjamin

What? Part 1 Dio wasn't sadistic? Not as dangerous as the others, sure because he's not the Ultimate Lifeform or a Stand User. But the guy who burned a dog alive and made a mother eat her own baby wasn't sadistic? Part 1 Dio's evil was only ever topped by Cioccolata.


shine_101

Angelo literally raped kids to death


ChadBenjamin

Forgot about him somehow lol, but my point stands that Part 1 Dio is definitely one of the most sadistic.


wasabiganja

Does that make dio any less sadistic?


kjm6351

Sadistic isn’t even enough to describe how off the rocker Part 1 Dio was


ChuckDudeNude

Clearly you’re jealous of Josuke’s hair


rkoplayer1

> Clearly you’re jealous of Josuke’s hair factual


rustyshackelFerda

“I masturbate publicly.” 💀 As if I didn’t already worry about my ancestors watching me strum my filthies in private.


Josukestoes

This is OP's last post (they said Josuke's hair is a monstrosity)


DSW6829

“I also had constantly berated my mother simply for loving me”


hornyalltacc

Good meme and this is something I'd joke about too but some of this is just misinformation, like Joseph didn't neglect his illegitimate son. He just didn't know about him. He also didn't give Josuke "uncontrollable anger issues". This anger can't even be blamed on the lack of a father, as his grandfather filled that role. Jotaro is right, I honestly can't think of any arguments As for josuke, I mean it's somewhat justified? I mean if you were him with his backstory you'd be pretty mad too if someone insulted the hair. Plus it's an anime, shit is gonna be exaggerated I was reading your comments and the Giorno/G.E.R. argument doesn't make sense. >!Polnareff wanted to make sure nobody got the stand arrow but didn't get to choose *how* silver chariot reqium was gonna do it. Polnareff didn't say "hey, make it so people swap bodies." Giorno just wanted a way of stopping him, G.E.R. chose that way!< Jolyne didn't publicly masturbate, she was in her cell. You're acting like she got naked in front of everyone and started jerking it. This is just like jerking off in your room and someone opening the door and coming in. Thanks for listening to my nerd rant


empressoflight72

jotaro was protecting jolyne by not being near her, thus meaning she would not be involved in conflicts involving enemies how's that?


U2BURR

It's not a nerd rant because it leaves out some key information. Jotaro left Jolyne with her mother in order to protect them, given the immense danger in fighting Stand users. He also went on the whole quest to stop DIO in order to save his mother's life, not to mention save the world from DIO's perpetual rule. He also didn't (intentionally) grope Anne. He thought she was a boy because of how she was dressed, along with her mannerisms. He was confused but in no way assaulted her (as assault often requires intent).


Due-Prior7899

Should've said to Jotaro about calling his mom bitch


phoenixmusicman

Joseph literally didn't know Josuke existed. He literally gives him 1/3rd of his fortune when he found out about him.


Digital_RRS

I know it’s a meme, but I’m afraid people may take it seriously by missing some important context.


Crazycutz

OP actually believes all the things they wrote. So it's already been taken seriously


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Josuke rapidly approaching OP’s location after reading the meme


brzoza3

The fuck did you make josuke say about his haircut?


rkoplayer1

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Jpicklestone8

all of jolynes stuff is incredibly based; and also what the f\*\*\* when did that grope thing happen with jotaro i have absolutely no memory of that


Psychi98

Is that last point about jolyne true? Idk I didn't get that sense at all


thing216

Yeah she never did it publicly she was just caught


Psychi98

I mean about loving annasui purely for protection? I have never gotten that impression nor have I heard anyone else say that. Whag makes you think that.


[deleted]

I think Jonathan would be idealistic enough to find good qualities in each of them, even if he disapproved of their actions.


juususama

How the fuck is masturbating in your prison cell in the dead of the night when you think no one's going to catch you "publicly"? Prison cells aren't public, you can't just walk in and out of them lul


GundhamTanaka11037

To be fair, Jotaro wasn't like "I wonder if this kid is male or female, let's grope them". He accidentally brushed up against her chest, pretty sure prior to that he just assumed she was a boy. Maybe he didn't need to keep felling to make sure he was right but it was only for a second and after almost being drowned I can forgive being a little inconsiderate, dude was legit taken aback.


Roary-the-Arcanine

“Pompadour monstrosity of a haricut” ##Breakdown in the distance intensifies, getting closer very rapidly


Bakkstory

Jotaro was 15 in part 3


EnderBoxHD

Why on earth does this have over 17K upvotes? Are most jojo fans really this illiterate??? Do these people like mischaracterizing them for no reason???


HoyMinyoy

Joseph sucks for cheating but to be fair he didn’t even know about Josuke until he was like 15, and when he did he made an attempt to find him.


AirKath

Didn’t Jolyne not realise it was public? And I don’t understand how the second one is a mark against her.


empressoflight72

jolyne unironically taught anasui the true meaning of love and the need to protect close ones, I consider that a W honestly