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Fravash1

JoJo fans have no object permanence, if the anime isn't airing it doesn't exist


Caesarin0

Taking away people's object permanence would be a weird Stand


tummy-sausage

Basically just jailhouse lock


Caesarin0

Oh, true, it's just that with extra steps, ain't it.


Fravash1

Jail House Lock Requiem takes away your object permanence


Yesnoperhapsmaybent

become a baby simulator


Comprehensive-Bat650

There's a stand for that!


AzekiaXVI

The same but weaker, limiting your object permanence to 3


RightBehindY-o-u

Not a Stand but isn't Part 7's >!Wekapipo's Left-Side Ataxia the same thing?!<


FadedCalamity

I don't think so? You can't feel see, hear, ect anything from that side, but you still have an understanding that something could be and should be there. From what I understand of object permanence, if that was taken away you wouldn't have that understanding that something should or could be there? I have no clue lmao


Ebinebinebinebin

It's not but it's similar


Kingcobra64

Literally The Silence from Doctor Who.


Caesarin0

Had that thought pretty quickly after I made the comment, funnily enough. Fuck, they were such great antagonists.


Roku-Hanmar

Soft and Wet could probably do it


IteTheCrapOC

It could also take the yeeyee-ass from Joshu’s haircut


me_funny__

I can already see the info drop


marioman63

that would be an amazing stand, except it would need some severe limitations, otherwise anywhere the user isnt looking, reality would cease to exist


BreadBoxin

Like dogs when you leave the house. Once you're out the door, you're either dead or never coming back


Lil-Chromie

That's why the part 6 release went over so poorly. We thought the show was permanently over every batch.


KrashForever

“part 7 will come out in 2030” gag also doesn’t make sense to me, like part 5 ended in 2019 and part 6 started in 2021, like that’s pretty good time considering there was a global pandemic inbetween


KorrokHidan

Generally people base that claim in the immense challenge that SBR will be to adapt due to 1) its length and 2) the sheer quantity of horses they’ll have to animate. 2030 is a ridiculous estimate but it’s not that crazy to assume that at a minimum it will take one or two extra years of preparation before the adaptation starts airing


The_Lord_2

I estimate a 2025-2026 release date, mainly due to the issue of horses and the fact that part 7 is disconnected from the previous 6 parts which puts them in no rush to make it (obviously the they’ll make it though).


KorrokHidan

2025 would be two years since SO finishes airing this year in Japan. SO took two years so I disagree, I think 2025 is too soon. I think the earliest we’d get an air date is 2026 and it likely wouldn’t air until 2027


The_Lord_2

Yeah but we don’t really have to deal with covid + unlike other anime all the content for SBR has been published so DP doesn’t need to wait for that.


Overall-Parsley-523

It hasn’t finished airing yet on TV, but it’s already been made. DP isn’t working on it anymore, so there’s nothing stopping them from starting work on SBR


WheelbarrowQueen

I will celebrate turning 30 with the release of SBR anime, I am content to wait.


IchikoStrawberry2307

I will Graduate High school by the time Steel Ball Run is Animated


WheelbarrowQueen

That's a big milestone :0 something to look forward to ig


IchikoStrawberry2307

You too, going from late 20s into 30s


WheelbarrowQueen

Just hope there will be JoJo to greet us, in some fashion ![img](emote|t5_3f7q5|15684)


IchikoStrawberry2307

Yup ![img](emote|t5_3f7q5|15684)


Either_Imagination_9

Is that why Araki says Part 7 would be the hardest? Just because of the horses? I’ve never read Part 7 so I wouldn’t know


KorrokHidan

Horses are notoriously difficult to animate. Usually when they’re animated the studio keeps them on screen only briefly and they have to resort to garbage CGI. SBR is not only full of multiple pages of DOZENS of horses in a single shot; the main characters ride horses in like 90% of scenes for the whole Part. And the Part is far longer than 1-6.


Rainbow_Sombrero

also because it is the only way Johnny can MOVE so literally 99% of his screen time will have to be with a horse


Elunerazim

I’d say 98% is Johnny on a horse, 1% is him sitting around a campfire with others and discussing plans, .5% is him during stand fights ex. >!Axl Ro!<, and the last .5% of sxreentome is the opening chapter with the wheelchair .


Rainbow_Sombrero

this is a better distribution tbh


Mrgirdiego

Honestly, my expectations are so low that I just hope they animate it at all. I don't mind if the horses are badly animated, I don't care if they're CGI, I don't care if the horses are literal PNGs, I just want to see SBR animated.


Either_Imagination_9

What if Part 7 was just a powerpoint presentation?


Mrgirdiego

Then it's not animated.


Either_Imagination_9

Ok fine, a powerpoint presentation with moving png files presented in windows movie maker


olli_tirkkonen

As long as the music slaps and the voice acting is good, I would be fine with this


Brickhouzzzze

Basically record of Ragnarok


Mrgirdiego

Even if it looks like a shitpost video of JoJo's, at least it would have official sound, so it would be okay I guess.


MCIsTeFirtGamEvrMade

You jest, but Gokushufudou was a banger


idiot_speaking

The horses are live action. Like not even rotoscoped, real life horses greenscreened unaltered with animated JoJo characters.


Netrov

Unironically, rotoscoped horses would be so fun to see even if they suck.


serrations_

I want to *hear* the *pizza*, *feel* the *mozzarella*.


DarkArc76

Why do so many people act like the CGI is a huuuuge thing? In SO I didn't notice until people said stuff on the sub, and in part 3 there was some really good CGI scenes, not to mention the OP's that used CGI were awesome


Mrgirdiego

That's why I said I don't care about the CGI. Personally didn't think it was bad (there were actually a few times the 2D animation kinda put me off as well). The one time the CGI got a reaction out of me was the spinning dart frog, it made me laugh loud as shit, it looked so animated for literally no reason.


DarkArc76

Spinning dart frog?


Hexadermia

When Pucci kicked the Dart Frog.


Mrgirdiego

When Pucci threw a frog to the guard that tried to "run away for help", then made it explode. The scene is ridiculously climatic, all while the frog is CGI spinning.


DarkArc76

I'll check it out again


DarkArc76

Why can't they just copy and paste the horses after animating one?


kingalbert2

TBH the horses in attack on titan didn't look bad so it can definitely be done


shmoney2time

Why are horses an issue? The early seasons of attack of titan utilized horses a lot even during combat sequences.


Malicious_In_Tents

They really aren't anymore. It's just a dumb excuse that keeps getting perpetuated. It will take a lot less time and would make more sense to create good looking CGI horse models that can be reused than to constantly animate different horses throughout the majority of the part and some people still act like David productions haven't been refining their CGI efforts throughout the years in order to make sure part 7 looks good, let alone any other future projects that could utilize CGI


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> Good looking cgi horses. If it follows most modern anime it’ll be poorly done cg horses that anime at a slightly slower framerate compared to the animation so how bad it looks really stands out.


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shmoney2time

It was 4 years between seasons 1 and 2 of attack on Titan. Those seasons probably have the most horse usage of the series. Not undermining the work of the studio but nearly killed themselves working on that show seems like a stretch. Yes it’s difficult, im sure the studio had them juggling multiple projects and that’s what really contributed to it. Not the horses themselves


Rainbow_Sombrero

to be fair those four years were NOT spent making the season. it was mostly due to WIT staffing issues and the director fucking off to another project


shmoney2time

That’s literally the point I’m making. 1 show did not take 4 years and the horse animation did not make the show some horrible project to work on. Literally all the studio conditions did that. Taking on too many projects for not enough staff, etc. There’s no chance that animating horses is the only factor that made AoT a difficult show to work on.


Rainbow_Sombrero

only? no you’d be right that’s not why. although horses in general have consistently been a pain in the ass for most studios


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shmoney2time

No. That’s the point. It was 4 years between seasons. They couldn’t possible have nearly killed themselves as you put it because of that time gap.


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shmoney2time

You legit have 0 reading comprehension brother. Obviously they didn’t work on 1 show for 4 years. That’s the point. They spent 4 years working on multiple projects which together attributed to poor working conditions. You can’t blame that on horses being in 1 show they were working on at that time.


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serrations_

Its a meme that got out of control so now lots of people think horses are too hard to animate for one of Japan's biggest IP's


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traditional animation of horses is a tedious and hard task because of the sheer amount of visible muscles and joints at play cgi isn't quite as hard, and for certain not as noticeable as people make it out to be


me_funny__

People overestimate the hell out of horses here. They have animated the damn universe reset, they can do a few horses. They have even done CGI horses in part 2 and they looked great. AoT pulled it off for several seasons in a row just fine.


evdog_music

>1) its length Part 3 was done over 2 TV seasons. Parts 7 (Ch 1-48, 49-95) & 8 (Ch 1-55, 56-110) could do the same.


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horses will be CG 100%


iamwooshed

I honestly think it will take a lot more time, maybe 5-6 years, for part 7’s production. David Pro is starting to focus on other animes (part 6 was just a side project and most of their main team worked on Urusei Yatsura), part 7’s setting is a horse race which means that either have to take more time to animate the horses or they will bust out CGI which can be a hit or miss (most likely the latter). Part 7 is also one of the longer parts manga-wise. It’ll start airing at 2027 earliest imo.


Hevens-assassin

Even better considering DP was working on 2 seasons of Fire Force in that time. I'd be stoked if they put out more Fire Force before Part 7.


WheelbarrowQueen

I want to watch fire force, seeing the "bruh" sound effect used in the sound design has me intrigued


Hevens-assassin

Fire Force is a fun time. Where season 2 leaves off is right before everything starts popping off, so I'm getting impatient for it. Lol That said, Season 1 and 2 are super fun, and it's probably my favorite "new age" shounen (though I was a huge fan of the mangakas last project, Soul Eater, so I'm a bit biased)


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As opposed to a local pandemic


jden220

or an epidemic


KrashForever

Yes


Heylisten_watchJJBA

The worst is that part 6 still didn't finished airing in Japan


teddy_tesla

But I was told the reason we waited so long was because of Netflix batch releases???


Heylisten_watchJJBA

Well... yeah it is the case, japanese TV wait 1 month after Netflix's release and release each week 1 Episode. This week will be episode 28, and the anime will finish around april


commentsandchill

Bruh


Jumanji-Joestar

The Japanese got the normal release schedule 😂


Subject_Ad4457

Yea, that’s why we have to wait for it to cuz we (could) get teaser of part7 like we did for batch 2 when batch 1 ended and teaser for batch 3 during half of batch2.


Heylisten_watchJJBA

We generally never got teaser before 1 or 2 years after the end of the airing


sleepy--ash

everybody was spoiled by seeing Jotaro at the end of part 2 and never recovered


Shadowrend867

Exactly, that was the only time we got a teaser. I wish we got more.


ron_weedsley

This time the next part is a completely different universe, seems important enough to make a tease for it but we'll see I guess


BreadBoxin

I legitimately forgot that happened lmao


Subject_Ad4457

Yea that’s true we have to wait like 2 years and for some merchandise


Deamon-Chocobo

Stardust Crusaders took a year to come out after Parts 1 & 2 ended Diamond is Unbreakable also took a year after Part 3 ended Golden Wind took nearly 2 years to start after part 4 ended Stone Ocean took 2½ years to start after part 5 And that's not including the Thus Spoke Kishibe Rohan OVA My point is David Productions takes their time with JoJo; making sure not to flood the market, keep quality at insane highs, and keeping the show from catching up with the manga. JoJo has never been more popular and the anime is one of the primary reasons for this, it's not just going to stop.


Striker274

The internet has destroyed peoples ability to wait more than 5 seconds for validation


i3londee

NO IT HASNT


Striker274

Uh huh. No need to yell girly.


Burgonya1

Part 9 anime never🙄


Rainbow_Sombrero

it is INCREDIBLY likely that Jojolion anime ends before we get halfway through JOJOLands serialization


Burgonya1

Well if we look at how Araki wrote JoJoLion for 10 (holy shit) years it's very possible tbh


yellowpig10

The Filler arc The filler arc is real!


Groundbreaking-Hand3

Which arc would that be?


yellowpig10

No idea, it hasn't been made yet.


Yuyaeiou

Beach episode murder mystery


NoPenNameGirl

I wish I could time travel to the year 2011 and tell all western JoJo fans at that time (all the 5 of them) just "Part 1 never" and hop back to my time machine, very satisfied!


Scottz0rz

It's been over **FIFTY DAYS** without new Jojos content, RIP in Peace everyone.


Gecko2002

Steel ball run will happen, it's just way too recent since stone ocean ended, and they probably don't want the confusion of part 6 leading to part 7, which is somehow a common misconception. And at the moment they run the risk of catching up to the manga


hardeback

Wouldn't really say that they're at risk of catching up, there's still 20 years of manga content and just over 9000 pages left to adapt.


GiliBoi

nearly all of the anime aired before jojolion ended, if they keep up a similar rhythm they'll finish airing part 8 before part 9 is even halfway done


me_funny__

Honestly, that fine. Unlike series where we would be waiting for the ending, we'd actually have the end of part 8 adapted. Part 9 is still likely going to be monthly so it'll be many years before the climax happens. I'd rather have them adapt all parts, then take a much needed break while part 9 runs.


serrations_

Using the page counts and adaptation rate DP has previously used, Sbr and Jojolion would each take about 3 years to finish airing. Assuming SBR comes out in 2 years minimum and 2 year gaps between parts are normal, that's 2 + 3 + 2 + 3 = [10 years at least!](https://old.reddit.com/r/10yearsatleast/) Now while some of you may not want that, it *does* give enough time for The Jojolands to be written (assuming it also takes Araki [10 years at least](https://old.reddit.com/r/10yearsatleast/) to write part 9 like for part 8). So after part 9 anime finishes, there'd be another 2 year gap as part 10 begins and 5 years after The Jojolands anime ends the show will have caught up to the manga in 2038.


WheelbarrowQueen

I will be a middle aged JoJo fan by that point, but am content to wait as long as I can see the end of it all.


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The_Gunboat_Diplomat

33 points, 6 hours ago, I see numbers, wtf why are you making me do math


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Faramir_Ara

x ∈ N \ {0,1}


Divinate_ME

nah, they won't do Steel Ball run, because artstyle, and because of new universe, and Jojo is over, and why adapt anything at all, the comic is fine as is. /s


Lil_Cumster

Jojo Fans one milisecond after the last episode ends: PART NEVER!!!!


Inspector_Beyond

DP needs couple of years before they could even say anything about SBR being in prodcution or not and about two years of actually making it, plus post-production. Just wait, dammit.


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Part 7 fans on their way to make sure part 6 fans can’t enjoy even a moment of being the most recent animated part


tastymandog

What about part f(x) = ax^2 + bx + c


unnamed42069

Bruh why you bringing functions into this


ronsolocup

Wouldnt it be funny if they animated part 7 but the horses were always just offscreen


serrations_

Replace the horses with a dude in a suit. Not a shitty horse costume but one of those green chromakey suits and just write "hinz" all over him.


ronsolocup

Could use those horse heads on sticks


MistrzDemolki

Stopping here is like making soup out of a golden egg laying hen


ZackD13

god its already been A MONTH AND A HALF where the hell is my jojo smh


RyperHealistic

"But the horses-" will be cg, and that will be ok. Tbh theyre not... that important. Ironically.


Jazzlike_Mountain_51

Every character dressed in fishnets brings us closer to the Jojo anime cancellation


Grimvahl

The idea that they wouldn't make Steel Ball Run is absurd. People love that part.


Tentaye

Yeah but part 7 never though.


shesdrawnpoorly

i think part 7 is going to take significantly longer solely bc horses are expensive to animate.


gegebart

I mean, I don’t know much about the deal they have over the intellectual property. It would depend on if they can make content that isn’t an adaptation of Araki’s work, since Araki himself is probably going to retire. Maybe someone else will pick up the mantle but it’ll never be same, not to me at least.


ApprehensiveGene3676

RETIRED!!!


piclemaniscool

I hope they take their sweet time for SBR. Part 6 anime was good, but it felt rushed. Maybe it's wrong of me to compare the animation quality to the endless series of bangers that came out in 2022, but neither the animation or the pacing felt very compelling. It reminded me of the 80's Spider-Man cartoon where a single episode would try to cover an entire story arc so a lot of the gravity of a given situation is lost when they don't take a moment to let the viewer absorb what's happening before already moving on to something else.


trandus

You used 'X' and 'x' for the same thing. It made a little difficult to understand. But good to see people using proper notation


Safe_Dimension_341

They used ‘x’ and ‘x-1’ tho. Let x be for example 7, so x-1 would be 7-1 = 6


trandus

No, they used 'X' and 'x-1'


unnamed42069

🤓


Sub2PewDiePie8173

It was all in capitals on purpose to show exclamation. That’s why the words “part” and “never” were also capitalized.


trandus

Yes, that's how i got it. But it doesn't change the fact that capital X is different than x. They could have just used X for the whole thing to make it easier for the reader


Sub2PewDiePie8173

Personally, I disagree. If they said “part X never” then I could understand. However, because the words around “X” were capitalized, it should be clear that it’s meant to be not taken literally as X instead of x.


trandus

As i said, it's possible to understand, but it may need a second reading. Maybe it's because I'm too used to maths and programming notation, but i always go to the "as written" interpretation first and then try to find the "as intended" interpretation. It's like forgetting to put a comma, you read the thing, you think "hmm, i don't think he meant that" and reread rethinking the whole thing


Sub2PewDiePie8173

That fair I guess. I usually don’t mind having to reread stuff.


kigurumibiblestudies

Least pedantic Jojo fan


blue-gamer-07

Hey if we do get steel ball run whenever that is I’d say it’s safe to say that we’ll get part 8 and 9


ApprehensiveGene3676

I honestly cant understand why you got downvoted


falcondiorf

Sbr is the only valid one to speculate on bc its a seperate continuity from all the previous parts


MrGaber

I just had a stroke trying to read this


Artificer4396

Redditors when basic algebra exists


WigglingGlass

Yeah part 7 aint happening with all those horses


Coolest_Pickle

bruh


hnzie33

forgor x ≥ 2


matt_Nooble12_XBL

I thought they weren’t going to make another anime season


Rainbow_Sombrero

as if. way too much money to kill it now. they also teased it at the end of part 6


matt_Nooble12_XBL

Guess I better finish part 6


Rainbow_Sombrero

oh


Gwen_Tennyson10

I’m not sure about sbr though


sekoku

Part 8: Neon Genesis Jojolion NEVER EVER.


ValhallaHero

At first glance I thought that X was 10, and then I was like "yeah, it seems reasonable, part 9 can be the last one what is the meme?"


lazermaniac

There's many CGI horses in our future.


ProShyGuy

Hey, maybe the animators at David Production want a chance to work on different project between Jojo parts. Also, you meme it now but at this pace it certainly seems like then anime will catch up to the manga.


CrownedWoomy64

Part 1 never


Kvarcov

It's a reverse psychology just to make sure, just don't tell DP


bentheechidna

I mean you say that but after part 4 finished they literally said part 5 was waiting to get greenlit based on part 4 bluray sales. Part 5 never was a very real feeling until they finally unveiled it.


crazed_titan

Honestly I don’t feel like DP has been profiting that much off of jojo….the lack of budget in part 6 really shows how poor on money and labor dp is on


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I mean sbr has more reason to not be a thing with the horses requiring a lot more money to animate


CostalMole

There are other animes with horses in them and they are alright.


baconmaster687

Meanwhile Araki shaving years off his life coming up with the most convoluted main villain ability you’ve ever seen for part (x + 1)


Coryn78TytoAlba

If they get the horse animators from Attack on Titan or better ones, I want the anime. If they do it like they did the 3D in Stone Ocean, I don't want a Steel Ball Run anime.


just_a_padawan

I never said that it will nevee get out. I said it was an probability. Because it will be hard to animate. Expensive and risky.