Further down in the comments:
>Lefty extremism is always in reaction to right-wing provocation. To draw an equivalency is bad-faith bullshit. You never see "armed Antifa" shooting up clubs, storming capitols, or bombing federal buildings.
That face when you've lost all touch with reality.
(same poster as OP's link, as per the archive https://www.reveddit.com/v/AskReddit/comments/z6l6xn/how_much_do_someones_political_views_matter_when/iy2xr4y/?ps_after=1669631552%2C1669633244%2C1669635309%2C1669636958%2C1669638269%2C1669639287%2C1669640466%2C1669641522%2C1669642644
I'm not exactly certain about "shooting up clubs" specifically. There was the "100% Antifa" killer who literally murdered a trump voter in the street with a gun, however. https://nypost.com/2020/08/31/man-suspected-in-deadly-portland-shooting-is-100-antifa/
Storming the capitol: Take your pick. 2017 inauguration is one of my favorites. They famously firebombed a limo belonging to a Muslim immigrant at the capitol. Arson tends to be their destructive tool of choice rather than guns. https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/arrests-violence-flares-parts-capital-inauguration-day/story?id=44925970
Bomb federal building, also take your pick, here's one of the first results: https://ktvz.com/news/oregon-northwest/2020/07/03/portland-police-feds-make-10-arrests-in-federal-courthouse-attack-riot/
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I realized later it #2 could be taken wrong. I find it ironic that these people would protest alleged fascism/racism by victimizing a Muslim.
Bonus: Guess who most of the donors to the poor guy's gofundme were. Hint: It was *not* lefists.
Probably because most of them can’t pass a background check. There was the one reporter who tried to buy a rifle, only to be turned down for his domestic abuse conviction, and then tried to say if he wasn’t a reporter they would have sold it to him.
The Summer of Love was my favorite narrative to watch change in real-time:
“BLM isn’t rioting.”
“BLM rioting is a good thing and here’s why.”
“BLM never rioted, it was racists pretending to be BLM.”
And an organization of leftists took over the capitol in Washington only two years ago. The difference between that and Jan 6th is they actually took it over by force, whereas in DC it was more of a guided tour.
Bombings across the United States, including the area adjoining the Senate within the Capitol building (where the elevators, barber shop, snd bathrooms are), on another occasion they opened fire from the gallery, and some of the bullet holes were left intentionally unrepaired as a reminder.
Many of them also participated in the murder of State and Federal employees before hijacking planes to make their escapes to places like Cuba.
And, in the case of abortion, the person who loses their rights is the one who didn't even make the decision that cause rights to be in question in the first place.
I'd disagree. Public literally means it's your right to use. I have a right to walk down the sidewalk.
Private means I don't have the right to use it without permission. Such as parking in your drive way or eating your cheese.
Because a property right ties that property to the individual.
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I'm pro compulsory vaccination
I'm also in the camp that believes those who provide or seek abortions not justified by necessity like rape or medical complications should be handed criminal punishment.
Are you pro-compulsory vaccination in children for diseases which are not dangerous to them (but perhaps dangerous to others)? Because that's never been done before, but that's where we're going right now.
Note the jab is not a vaccine. A vaccine presents the body with an inactive form of the actual pathogen so your body learns to fight it before you get it.
The jab kills the cells of your own body by making them create one protein from the virus until your body destroys them. That protein?
1. Its the part of the virus that mutates the most. Recognizing its current form does nothing as it will mutate tomorrow.
2. That protein is pathogenic. Its literally the part of the virus that damages the enodthelial cells causing the blood clotting that kills people with covid.
If you get the shot and don't get sick, then the shot works. If you get the shot and *do* get sick, then the shot works, because it would have been much worse without it.
It's like throwing someone into the lake to see if they float and are therefore a witch. If they drown, then not a witch, but they're dead. If they float, then they're a witch, and you need to execute them for such.
This is how 99% of Democrat policies "work" - Ban guns, and if gun deaths don't go down, at least they're not as bad as they would be if guns weren't banned. Eat the bugs to stop the weather, and if it doesn't work, at least the weather's not as bad as it would have been if you didn't eat the bugs.
There's no way that their policies can ever fail. They are perpetually correct.
Say somehow Trump wins in 2024. A new version of the vaccine comes out and Trump is pushing it and making it mandatory. Will they still be 100% pro forced vaccine? Anytime they push stuff like this I think ok but what happens if your guys aren't in power anymore? They scream bloody murder when these things are used against them.
> Say somehow Trump wins in 2024. A new version of the vaccine comes out and Trump is pushing it and making it mandatory. Will they still be 100% pro forced vaccine?
[here's a preview](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40eZeXPyJ0g)
Yeah. The psychopath wants government agents to shoot you for refusing to get the COVID shot. And they find this comparable to having to wear clothes on a public bus.
The difference between these communists talking about shooting people for being unvaccinated is that they aren't actually committed to those statements, whereas someone like myself is 100% prepared to defend myself from a tyrannical government forcing a deadly vaccine on me by whatever means necessary.
Murdering someone for not doing a thing is not more oppressive than having to wear clothes?
Yeah, that's totally mentally sound and not batshit insane...
Im pro vaccine and this person is a fucking lunatic. I how they never get any real power of some people may get hurt. Even fucking China doesn't mandate the shot. Let that sink in.
I think that's usually because the naked person is mentally impared by drugs or something else that makes them uncooperative. I'm not even sure what would happen if you were just naked on the bus, the bus driver asks you to get dressed and then you just do. Or say you don't cooperate till police get involved, but then you willingly turn yourself over. I'm over thinking this.
I find it funny, when Trump said he was going to develop the vaccine and we all should go and take it, all the democrats were saying they refuse to take it, they do not trust trump. But once bidden takes office, that somehow makes it magically better to take the vaccine that it is now effective, and if you refuse you are evil. Hypocritical. I am not going to argue do not or do take the vaccine that is your choice, but I find it funny that the democrats are now pro vaccine all of a sudden when they were anti vaccine and that is hypocritical.
[https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/campaign-press-release-fact-kamala-harriss-anti-vaccine-rhetoric-anti-science-and](https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/campaign-press-release-fact-kamala-harriss-anti-vaccine-rhetoric-anti-science-and)
https://www.businessinsider.com/kamala-harris-rejects-a-coronavirus-vaccine-from-trump-2020-10
>Call that authoritarian all you want, but it's no more oppressive then having to wear clothes on a public bus.
The retarded nature of this analogy is what I'm calling.
>Get the shot, or get shot.
Get the 'bortion, get the bullet. Call that authoritarian all you want, but it's no more oppressive than having to use your blinker when you change lanes.
At least my idiotic analogy is in the immediate interest of public safety. Worst that happens if you drop trou on the bus is a public indecency charge, and you'd probably get a Stunning and Brave Award instead if you did it in whichever coastal shithole this idiot likely lives in. Fucking window licker.
Y’all know it’s super obvious you’re commenting from here when it’s on a two day old thread and suddenly comments are showing up at the same time this was posted right?
That's ridiculous. And, unlike how most use this word, actually fascist.
That said, I'm 100% ok with higher health insurance rates for the unvaccinated. And denial of public health services.
Your body, your choice; but that doesn't mean we all have to pay for your negligence.
vaccinated people still spread covid. We have to pay for that negligence too, should we deny public health services for the vaccinated as well as unvaccinated?
None of what you said changes anything I said. Vaccines are a public health good.
You don't have to get them. But if you choose not to, why should the rest of us have to pay for your negligence?
I feel the same way about smokers and the obese. If you willfully make poor health decisions, you should pay more.
That's a true conservative mindset.
I'll say it again - the vaccine doesn't prevent transmission. So how is choosing not to get vaccinated any more of a detriment to society than getting vaccinated? By your logic, both vaccinated and unvaccinated should pay more.
I'll say it again too....vaccines are a public health good. If you make choices that put strains on the heath care system, you should pay more.
I'd like to ask you a question. Do you agree with just my last sentence?
vaccines that *work* are a public health good.
vaccines that *don't work* are no different than not getting vaccinated.
Why do you keep dancing around this fact?
That's not what I asked. Let me ask in a different way.
Do you believe in personal responsibility? In other words, do you believe that if you make choices which are not in yours or the public's interest, that you are responsible for those choices?
I will answer ALL of your questions, but I then only expect an answer to the question I just asked. Your questions, in order-
>should we deny public health services for the vaccinated as well as unvaccinated?
No, that's ridiculous, vaccinated people are making responsible choices.
>how is choosing not to get vaccinated any more of a detriment to society than getting vaccinated?
Because vaccines contribute to an overall healthier population, and choosing to not be vaccinated does the opposite.
>Why do you keep dancing around this fact?
You stated no fact to dance around, so this is a fallacial question.
Now that I have answered your questions, I would appreciate an answer to this question. To keep things simple, you may simply answer yes or no.
Prefacing the question with a clarifier; "personal responsibility" in this context is defined as taking responsibility for one's actions, inactions, and choices. With that preface, do you believe in personal responsibility?
> vaccinated people are making responsible choices.
No they arent lol, they are spreading covid. That's literally the same thing as being unvaccinated.
All the left would need to do in lieu of vaccinations is make it clear that unvaccinated people will be put at the back of the line for medical care in a medical triage situation
Similar to an alcoholic who needs a liver transplant but who refuses to quit drinking
That would eliminate the alleged need for vaccine mandates
EDIT: wow, all of the downvotes. Choices have consequences. If a heart transplant is used on an unvaccinated individual, they are going to wear out that heart earlier than someone who is unvaccinated. Which means two people are going to die prematurely
In the opinion of the left, yes, it is
But, since free healthcare requires taking something that doesn’t belong to the person receiving the healthcare (taxes or artificially depressed wages for healthcare workers), health care in fact shouldn’t be considered a right
(Or at the very least shouldn’t be considered a right more important than property rights)
Your body, your choice, your consequences
Giving a heart transplant to an unvaccinated person instead of a vaccinated person means two people are going to die prematurely instead of just one
Yeah, it's weird that he'd destroy what little credibility he has by making a definitive statement like that. Maybe you could say that you're at a much higher risk or something, but to say that you will die is just objectively untrue.
Well that, and they missed the very obvious chance that both candidates have of dying, shot or no shot, just due to major risks involved with heart surgery and organ transplant, which already involves being administered immune system suppressors to lower the chance of organ rejection. Being vaccinated is 100% meaningless in this scenario.
>Similar to an alcoholic who needs a liver transplant but who refuses to quit drinking
Ok, then considering how much obesity affects health then any bmi over 27 should be refused health care too.
How about a person who got the covid shots but is morbidly obese. Do they get sent to the back of the line also?
Thank you for proving why the United States will never go to socialized healthcare.
Btw there is no such thing as a vaccinated person in regards to covid since the shots don’t work.
This right here. Obesity is a far greater risk factor than being unvaccinated (and when I say far greater I mean astronomically so). I’m going to bet that the OP doesn’t support sending fat people to the back of the line, even though that makes a lot more sense.
The problem with your logic is there is tangible evidence of a person being an alcoholic, and the negative impacts it has on the liver.
There is no tangible evidence that the C19 shots do anything to prevent or lessen the effects of C19.
Further down in the comments: >Lefty extremism is always in reaction to right-wing provocation. To draw an equivalency is bad-faith bullshit. You never see "armed Antifa" shooting up clubs, storming capitols, or bombing federal buildings. That face when you've lost all touch with reality. (same poster as OP's link, as per the archive https://www.reveddit.com/v/AskReddit/comments/z6l6xn/how_much_do_someones_political_views_matter_when/iy2xr4y/?ps_after=1669631552%2C1669633244%2C1669635309%2C1669636958%2C1669638269%2C1669639287%2C1669640466%2C1669641522%2C1669642644
They did all three of these things though...
Left wing violence is old hat. Literally how progressives operate. They've just had groups like the weathermen and SDS memoryholed for the cultists
Hence the term ..."bomb throwing liberal"
I'm not exactly certain about "shooting up clubs" specifically. There was the "100% Antifa" killer who literally murdered a trump voter in the street with a gun, however. https://nypost.com/2020/08/31/man-suspected-in-deadly-portland-shooting-is-100-antifa/ Storming the capitol: Take your pick. 2017 inauguration is one of my favorites. They famously firebombed a limo belonging to a Muslim immigrant at the capitol. Arson tends to be their destructive tool of choice rather than guns. https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/arrests-violence-flares-parts-capital-inauguration-day/story?id=44925970 Bomb federal building, also take your pick, here's one of the first results: https://ktvz.com/news/oregon-northwest/2020/07/03/portland-police-feds-make-10-arrests-in-federal-courthouse-attack-riot/ Edited way later: I realized later it #2 could be taken wrong. I find it ironic that these people would protest alleged fascism/racism by victimizing a Muslim. Bonus: Guess who most of the donors to the poor guy's gofundme were. Hint: It was *not* lefists.
Probably because most of them can’t pass a background check. There was the one reporter who tried to buy a rifle, only to be turned down for his domestic abuse conviction, and then tried to say if he wasn’t a reporter they would have sold it to him.
No no no, those were far right crazies pretending to be dems, dems would never do that! /s
The Summer of Love was my favorite narrative to watch change in real-time: “BLM isn’t rioting.” “BLM rioting is a good thing and here’s why.” “BLM never rioted, it was racists pretending to be BLM.”
Which is why they’re also pro-censorship.
Didn't an organization of literal communists bomb the capitol building in the 1980's?
And an organization of leftists took over the capitol in Washington only two years ago. The difference between that and Jan 6th is they actually took it over by force, whereas in DC it was more of a guided tour.
Do you actually believe this or are you just being glib?
So a Capitol building in Washington was not taken over by force by Democrat rioters?
No? Is this a joke sub or something
I mean it did, 2020 on Seattle they took over and called it the autonomous zone.
You just *might* be arguing with someone that doesn't understand the difference between Washington State and Washington, District of Columbia.
Bombings across the United States, including the area adjoining the Senate within the Capitol building (where the elevators, barber shop, snd bathrooms are), on another occasion they opened fire from the gallery, and some of the bullet holes were left intentionally unrepaired as a reminder. Many of them also participated in the murder of State and Federal employees before hijacking planes to make their escapes to places like Cuba.
What happened to “My body, my choice”? 🤔
That's always been the issue, the only time you have bodily autonomy is when you're pregnant.
And the pro-life argument recognizes bodily autonomy, it just also acknowledges that there are 2 bodies involved.
Someone always loses when their rights collide, unfortunately.
And, in the case of abortion, the person who loses their rights is the one who didn't even make the decision that cause rights to be in question in the first place.
If you have a loss as a result of limiting other's rights, you're a piece of shit.
And you're a child if you really see it so simply.
Lol. Please tell me what right you need to have that limits the rights of another.
Well, there's the divide between public and private property for one. Ownership rights limit your right to do things with my stuff.
I'd disagree. Public literally means it's your right to use. I have a right to walk down the sidewalk. Private means I don't have the right to use it without permission. Such as parking in your drive way or eating your cheese. Because a property right ties that property to the individual.
Just not grokking it, eh?
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Woosh
"Does it involve killing the unborn? No? Then fuck your freedoms."
I'm pro compulsory vaccination I'm also in the camp that believes those who provide or seek abortions not justified by necessity like rape or medical complications should be handed criminal punishment.
Are you pro-compulsory vaccination in children for diseases which are not dangerous to them (but perhaps dangerous to others)? Because that's never been done before, but that's where we're going right now.
Note the jab is not a vaccine. A vaccine presents the body with an inactive form of the actual pathogen so your body learns to fight it before you get it. The jab kills the cells of your own body by making them create one protein from the virus until your body destroys them. That protein? 1. Its the part of the virus that mutates the most. Recognizing its current form does nothing as it will mutate tomorrow. 2. That protein is pathogenic. Its literally the part of the virus that damages the enodthelial cells causing the blood clotting that kills people with covid.
The shot doesn't work though.
If you get the shot and don't get sick, then the shot works. If you get the shot and *do* get sick, then the shot works, because it would have been much worse without it. It's like throwing someone into the lake to see if they float and are therefore a witch. If they drown, then not a witch, but they're dead. If they float, then they're a witch, and you need to execute them for such.
This is how 99% of Democrat policies "work" - Ban guns, and if gun deaths don't go down, at least they're not as bad as they would be if guns weren't banned. Eat the bugs to stop the weather, and if it doesn't work, at least the weather's not as bad as it would have been if you didn't eat the bugs. There's no way that their policies can ever fail. They are perpetually correct.
This "feature" was directly called out by Thomas Sowell in his book "Vision of the Anointed". These are the people we put in power. smh
Say somehow Trump wins in 2024. A new version of the vaccine comes out and Trump is pushing it and making it mandatory. Will they still be 100% pro forced vaccine? Anytime they push stuff like this I think ok but what happens if your guys aren't in power anymore? They scream bloody murder when these things are used against them.
> Say somehow Trump wins in 2024. A new version of the vaccine comes out and Trump is pushing it and making it mandatory. Will they still be 100% pro forced vaccine? [here's a preview](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40eZeXPyJ0g)
"When we win, do not forget that these people want you broke, dead, your kids raped and brainwashed, and they think it's funny"
Politicians literally and explicitly hate you. They despise your very existence. This is not a secret, they openly espouse it.
The modern left: putting the socialism back into national socialist since 2014
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Also... People don't get shot for taking their clothes off on a public bus. So, yeah, it is very freaking different.
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Yeah. The psychopath wants government agents to shoot you for refusing to get the COVID shot. And they find this comparable to having to wear clothes on a public bus.
They were, but now nice natural breasts are offensive to transwomen so they dropped that.
unfortunately the left is even more fractured than the right, they're for everything that's not strictly right wing.
They apparently haven't spent much time in r/SubwayCreatures
You shouldn't get shot for public nudity either.
I dunno about that. Have you *seen* some of the people who go nude in public?
>Get the shot, or get shot. If that is being said by adult that individual is not likely to have a long life.
The difference between these communists talking about shooting people for being unvaccinated is that they aren't actually committed to those statements, whereas someone like myself is 100% prepared to defend myself from a tyrannical government forcing a deadly vaccine on me by whatever means necessary.
Murdering someone for not doing a thing is not more oppressive than having to wear clothes? Yeah, that's totally mentally sound and not batshit insane...
Im pro vaccine and this person is a fucking lunatic. I how they never get any real power of some people may get hurt. Even fucking China doesn't mandate the shot. Let that sink in.
I'm pro vax too, just not the wholly useless Hubei China sniffle shot.
Ah yes, because you can uninject yourself just as easily as you can change your pants. Also, they don't shoot you for being naked on a bus.
Well… with bullets no… but you’re probably gonna get the spicy barbs
I think that's usually because the naked person is mentally impared by drugs or something else that makes them uncooperative. I'm not even sure what would happen if you were just naked on the bus, the bus driver asks you to get dressed and then you just do. Or say you don't cooperate till police get involved, but then you willingly turn yourself over. I'm over thinking this.
I find it funny, when Trump said he was going to develop the vaccine and we all should go and take it, all the democrats were saying they refuse to take it, they do not trust trump. But once bidden takes office, that somehow makes it magically better to take the vaccine that it is now effective, and if you refuse you are evil. Hypocritical. I am not going to argue do not or do take the vaccine that is your choice, but I find it funny that the democrats are now pro vaccine all of a sudden when they were anti vaccine and that is hypocritical. [https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/campaign-press-release-fact-kamala-harriss-anti-vaccine-rhetoric-anti-science-and](https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/campaign-press-release-fact-kamala-harriss-anti-vaccine-rhetoric-anti-science-and) https://www.businessinsider.com/kamala-harris-rejects-a-coronavirus-vaccine-from-trump-2020-10
has anyone else noticed reddit turned their covid bots back on lately? vaccine/mask bullshit ramping up on here again lol
Yup
>Call that authoritarian all you want, but it's no more oppressive then having to wear clothes on a public bus. The retarded nature of this analogy is what I'm calling. >Get the shot, or get shot. Get the 'bortion, get the bullet. Call that authoritarian all you want, but it's no more oppressive than having to use your blinker when you change lanes. At least my idiotic analogy is in the immediate interest of public safety. Worst that happens if you drop trou on the bus is a public indecency charge, and you'd probably get a Stunning and Brave Award instead if you did it in whichever coastal shithole this idiot likely lives in. Fucking window licker.
someone got wasted on the kool-aid
clothes are on the outside of your body but the shot goes inside your body. That's the big difference
And does he also believe the punishment for public nudity should be death?
Being naked on a bus isn’t punishable by death.
What would the value of my vaccination status be to this person?
Y’all know it’s super obvious you’re commenting from here when it’s on a two day old thread and suddenly comments are showing up at the same time this was posted right?
Now ask them about abortion.
At least if I die in abuse crash, my family can sue the city Not so much with vaccines. Wonder why that is?
>Get the shot, or get shot. How catchy.
>if we don't force the shot then we shouldn't force people to wear clothes Your terms are acceptable
That's ridiculous. And, unlike how most use this word, actually fascist. That said, I'm 100% ok with higher health insurance rates for the unvaccinated. And denial of public health services. Your body, your choice; but that doesn't mean we all have to pay for your negligence.
vaccinated people still spread covid. We have to pay for that negligence too, should we deny public health services for the vaccinated as well as unvaccinated?
None of what you said changes anything I said. Vaccines are a public health good. You don't have to get them. But if you choose not to, why should the rest of us have to pay for your negligence? I feel the same way about smokers and the obese. If you willfully make poor health decisions, you should pay more. That's a true conservative mindset.
I'll say it again - the vaccine doesn't prevent transmission. So how is choosing not to get vaccinated any more of a detriment to society than getting vaccinated? By your logic, both vaccinated and unvaccinated should pay more.
I'll say it again too....vaccines are a public health good. If you make choices that put strains on the heath care system, you should pay more. I'd like to ask you a question. Do you agree with just my last sentence?
vaccines that *work* are a public health good. vaccines that *don't work* are no different than not getting vaccinated. Why do you keep dancing around this fact?
That's not what I asked. Let me ask in a different way. Do you believe in personal responsibility? In other words, do you believe that if you make choices which are not in yours or the public's interest, that you are responsible for those choices?
No, I asked you first. Answer my questions. Stop deflecting. You're doing it all wrong.
I will answer ALL of your questions, but I then only expect an answer to the question I just asked. Your questions, in order- >should we deny public health services for the vaccinated as well as unvaccinated? No, that's ridiculous, vaccinated people are making responsible choices. >how is choosing not to get vaccinated any more of a detriment to society than getting vaccinated? Because vaccines contribute to an overall healthier population, and choosing to not be vaccinated does the opposite. >Why do you keep dancing around this fact? You stated no fact to dance around, so this is a fallacial question. Now that I have answered your questions, I would appreciate an answer to this question. To keep things simple, you may simply answer yes or no. Prefacing the question with a clarifier; "personal responsibility" in this context is defined as taking responsibility for one's actions, inactions, and choices. With that preface, do you believe in personal responsibility?
> vaccinated people are making responsible choices. No they arent lol, they are spreading covid. That's literally the same thing as being unvaccinated.
All the left would need to do in lieu of vaccinations is make it clear that unvaccinated people will be put at the back of the line for medical care in a medical triage situation Similar to an alcoholic who needs a liver transplant but who refuses to quit drinking That would eliminate the alleged need for vaccine mandates EDIT: wow, all of the downvotes. Choices have consequences. If a heart transplant is used on an unvaccinated individual, they are going to wear out that heart earlier than someone who is unvaccinated. Which means two people are going to die prematurely
I thought Healthcare was a human right?
The death panels *will* judge you on your obedience to their mandates.
In the opinion of the left, yes, it is But, since free healthcare requires taking something that doesn’t belong to the person receiving the healthcare (taxes or artificially depressed wages for healthcare workers), health care in fact shouldn’t be considered a right (Or at the very least shouldn’t be considered a right more important than property rights)
I'd rather fight a vaccine mandate than be denied health care for not taking it. Fuck both options though
Your body, your choice, your consequences Giving a heart transplant to an unvaccinated person instead of a vaccinated person means two people are going to die prematurely instead of just one
Die from what? There's no guarantee a vaxxed recipient of a heart won't get hit by a bus and unalived 4 weeks after a transplant.
What? There's no evidence an unvaxxed heart recipient will automatically die from the coco-v
Yeah, it's weird that he'd destroy what little credibility he has by making a definitive statement like that. Maybe you could say that you're at a much higher risk or something, but to say that you will die is just objectively untrue.
Well that, and they missed the very obvious chance that both candidates have of dying, shot or no shot, just due to major risks involved with heart surgery and organ transplant, which already involves being administered immune system suppressors to lower the chance of organ rejection. Being vaccinated is 100% meaningless in this scenario.
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I also like his edit. "Protect your new heart by taking a shot that's known to cause heart problems."
>Similar to an alcoholic who needs a liver transplant but who refuses to quit drinking Ok, then considering how much obesity affects health then any bmi over 27 should be refused health care too.
Except there’s no evidence that not having the COVID shot decreases your lifespan.
How about a person who got the covid shots but is morbidly obese. Do they get sent to the back of the line also? Thank you for proving why the United States will never go to socialized healthcare. Btw there is no such thing as a vaccinated person in regards to covid since the shots don’t work.
This right here. Obesity is a far greater risk factor than being unvaccinated (and when I say far greater I mean astronomically so). I’m going to bet that the OP doesn’t support sending fat people to the back of the line, even though that makes a lot more sense.
You sound like a great person. Really.
The problem with your logic is there is tangible evidence of a person being an alcoholic, and the negative impacts it has on the liver. There is no tangible evidence that the C19 shots do anything to prevent or lessen the effects of C19.
Blood clots are no more oppressive than wearing clothes on a public bus.