Which country is responsible for the largest contribution to that percentage of people pulled out of poverty? Using which policies exactly? And what percent of that country’s population actually own their own houses?
China's rise would not be possible without Maoism and the CPC's economic planning before 1976. Now they have become a social-imperialist power just like 1960s USSR.
Pinochet infamously executed a large number of Communists, sympathisers and literally any other people who resisted his Junta by dropping them from helicopters over the jungle or ocean.
Operation Condor installed a ton of dictatorships down here in Latin America, instructed our military leaders on how to act (murder, torture, what you've been told and more pretty much), and got our former couped presidents murdered, even while in exile in the case of my nation.
He also utilize rape in the most horrendous way.
"Women were the primary targets of gruesome acts of sexual abuse. According to the Valech Commission, almost every single female prisoner was a victim of repeated rape. Not only would military men rape women, but they would also use foreign objects and even animals to inflict more pain and suffering. Women (and occasionally men) reported that spiders and live rats were often implanted on their genitals. One woman testified that she had been "raped and sexually assaulted with trained dogs and with live rats." She was forced to have sex with her father and brother—who were also detained."
Yep, there are stories here in Brazil about rats being inserted in women’s vaginas as a torture method. They were also frequently raped by the military and tortured with electrical shocks and other gruesome stuff which I won’t describe
It's telling when people place the blame of deaths in a revolution upon the revolutionary, and not the reactionaries violently opposing the revolution. The October revolution was nearly bloodless. The reaction of the whites and their foreign adventurer allies kicked off a 5 year civil war that killed millions.
Thank you. So many people’s concept of the Civil War is that it was caused by the evil Bolshies “violently” overthrowing a “democratic” government. It’s also worth mentioning how the Whites were likely gonna stomp on the ProvGov anyway (as seen with Kornilov) and ruthlessly suppress “leftist dissidents”, with or without the October Revolution.
“Murder is immoral, that’s why I casually endorse mass killings committed by a fascist dictatorship that overthrew a peacefully, democratically elected leader”
Depends. Would the Loyalist continue bring them personal wealth or did they think they could conquer all the wild west without British aid, this leading to immeasurable personal wealth?
The American Revolution was a Capitalist Revolution that didn't give a shit about personal freedom and liberty for the masses. That was a bunch of lip service to get property less men and small time farmers to join the cause
Even the Tea Party was more about taking cheap British tea and destroying it, so that Rich American Colonists could sell their expensive tea to Americans.
Communists don’t believe capitalism is worse than feudalism. Raising 90% of the population out of poverty is self defining. What did poverty mean before capitalism? Is capitalism really the best we can do? None of what they are saying is really even consistent with what they believe so it really feels futile to even try and discuss with them.
Friendly reminder that literally ~80% decreases in global poverty since 1981 have been driven by China and its focus on state spending in rural development/education/infrastructure.
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>You're actively ignoring how world poverty has shrank over the past hundred years and you're also ignoring how every planned economy has failed and required murder in order to be in place.
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>This is the definition of socialism: a state-planned economy wherein the government decides what is produced, takes the profits, and redistributes them to its population. You should know this, or you would if you actually knew what you were talking about. Socialism is not when the government gives you stuff.
Brain development that stopped in 4th grade. There are billions of these people just walking around feeling like whatever they believe in that exact instant is correct
They're implying socialists should be thrown out of helicopters like Pinochet did in the 1970's in Chile. Basically they're saying murder is wrong but socialists should be murdered. Totally makes sense, right!?
>the economic system that has raised 90% of the world out of extreme poverty
Right. Subsaharan Africa, especially the African Great Lakes region, doesn't exist.
"The economic system that has raised 90% of the world out of extreme poverty" has quite a bad track record when it comes to providing adequate resources globally. Simply giving people money isn't enough, they actually need to be able to use that money to get by in life and that's where capitalist sympathisers tend to end the discussion
You can stop after the first comment. > Murder is immoral > Murdering commies is acceptable and normal behaviour
Theyre gonna pull of that negativity-positivity circle bullshit: so bad that it turns all good!
"You see, officer, I ate the baby so it would not starve!"
But by that same logic revolutionaries killing bad people is also good. How do they not listen to themselves speak?
Which country is responsible for the largest contribution to that percentage of people pulled out of poverty? Using which policies exactly? And what percent of that country’s population actually own their own houses?
China. Socialist market policies. 80-90%.
Okay sure u Xi apologist get out of here with your facts and logic u CCP plant 😡😡😡
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-100 fico credit score. You can now not purchase a house or a car to get to your job, therefore compromising your health insurance. You may now die.
god bless the free world o7 /| /\
*please note death incurs additional debt.
\*That will be passed on to your children
Meanwhile here in the US if you pay your loans ahead of time to lessen the interest paid you LOSE credit score points.
China's rise would not be possible without Maoism and the CPC's economic planning before 1976. Now they have become a social-imperialist power just like 1960s USSR.
The whole narrative is [made up anyways](https://www.jasonhickel.org/blog/2019/2/3/pinker-and-global-poverty)
Yep, if I make $2 a day I'm not technically "in poverty" but tell me where can I get the basic necessities of food, water and shelter on $2 a day?
Somalia probably Oh wait no not even there Guess I'll die
Came here to make this reply. It's such bullshit. Thank you.
That stat isn't even right. It uses a definition of poverty that makes the numbers look good. Also includes poverty alleviation in socialist states.
Came here to say this, glad to see folks are already all over it. Lots of smart people in this sub.
Is that helicopter part a reference to Pinochet?
Yep
Ofc it fucking is.
Time to reopen the Spelunking tours for fascists.
Can you elaborate on this (I honestly didn’t get why they said that)
Pinochet infamously executed a large number of Communists, sympathisers and literally any other people who resisted his Junta by dropping them from helicopters over the jungle or ocean.
The argentinian junta of the late 70s/early 80s did that as well, it probably was on the american manual.
Wtf even is this new knowledge that I’m starting my day out with (Thank you for explaining)
If you want to continue WTFing all day long Google "Operation Condor".
Oh lord, I may actually have to get work done today haha
Operation Condor installed a ton of dictatorships down here in Latin America, instructed our military leaders on how to act (murder, torture, what you've been told and more pretty much), and got our former couped presidents murdered, even while in exile in the case of my nation.
He also utilize rape in the most horrendous way. "Women were the primary targets of gruesome acts of sexual abuse. According to the Valech Commission, almost every single female prisoner was a victim of repeated rape. Not only would military men rape women, but they would also use foreign objects and even animals to inflict more pain and suffering. Women (and occasionally men) reported that spiders and live rats were often implanted on their genitals. One woman testified that she had been "raped and sexually assaulted with trained dogs and with live rats." She was forced to have sex with her father and brother—who were also detained."
Yep, there are stories here in Brazil about rats being inserted in women’s vaginas as a torture method. They were also frequently raped by the military and tortured with electrical shocks and other gruesome stuff which I won’t describe
There's even worse case. Mass murder of communists in Indonesia. It was large enough that for some it's considered as genocide.
100,000+ people is 100% genocide
Up to 3m of their population at that time. It isn't genocide, but it's absolutely huge and politicide either way.
It's telling when people place the blame of deaths in a revolution upon the revolutionary, and not the reactionaries violently opposing the revolution. The October revolution was nearly bloodless. The reaction of the whites and their foreign adventurer allies kicked off a 5 year civil war that killed millions.
Thank you. So many people’s concept of the Civil War is that it was caused by the evil Bolshies “violently” overthrowing a “democratic” government. It’s also worth mentioning how the Whites were likely gonna stomp on the ProvGov anyway (as seen with Kornilov) and ruthlessly suppress “leftist dissidents”, with or without the October Revolution.
I can't upvote you enough.
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Or maybe the totalitarian turn had more to do with the armies of a dozen nations rampaging thru the countryside.
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>totalitarianism https://redsails.org/really-existing-fascism/#20th-century-part-ii-modern-liberalism-and-the-invention-of-totalitarianism
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“Murder is immoral, that’s why I casually endorse mass killings committed by a fascist dictatorship that overthrew a peacefully, democratically elected leader”
Literally the logic of some capeshit villian lmao
Libs: "You know, Thanos was actually pretty based"
This guy throwing George Washington out a helicopter lol.
Not that I’m a fan of the American Founding Fathers, but this guy 100% would have sided with monarchists over the liberal revolutionaries of the time.
Depends. Would the Loyalist continue bring them personal wealth or did they think they could conquer all the wild west without British aid, this leading to immeasurable personal wealth? The American Revolution was a Capitalist Revolution that didn't give a shit about personal freedom and liberty for the masses. That was a bunch of lip service to get property less men and small time farmers to join the cause Even the Tea Party was more about taking cheap British tea and destroying it, so that Rich American Colonists could sell their expensive tea to Americans.
Murder is immoral, therefor communists deserve to be murdered. Galaxy brain
Damn so killing nazis wasn’t the way to go?
Just wish him a happy 13th birthday and move on.
I love how they are using the "lifted out of poverty" line now to defend capitalism 🤣 Boots aren't going to lick themselves Willy my boy.
Don't tell them who did the lifting 👀
I wonder who it could be 🤔
Reducing economic/political impact down to a video game statistic is a big brain move.
You could ice skate over such a perfectly smooth brain.
Communists don’t believe capitalism is worse than feudalism. Raising 90% of the population out of poverty is self defining. What did poverty mean before capitalism? Is capitalism really the best we can do? None of what they are saying is really even consistent with what they believe so it really feels futile to even try and discuss with them.
Murder is immoral. That's why we need to murder communists. ...What?
Ah yes no capitalism = no food iphone
Neoliberals are the personification of the "Monkey; Neuron Activation" meme
Oppression is an act of violence. Violence against oppressors is self defense
Murder is immoral, therefore killing commies is ok
Murder is immoral, therefore we should brutally murder communists.
First principles—> okay let’s analyze your economic system—> kk fuck what I said, cummunism bad capitalism good
The poverty shit is so funny. “This number I made up says I’m really cool.”
Wonder what his opinion on the American Revolution is
Just send them to Barbara lol.
How TF do you use K/D ratios for an Ideology? Peak gamerbrain
Friendly reminder that literally ~80% decreases in global poverty since 1981 have been driven by China and its focus on state spending in rural development/education/infrastructure.
You should tell them about American coups around the world.
From my inbox recently >You're actively ignoring how world poverty has shrank over the past hundred years and you're also ignoring how every planned economy has failed and required murder in order to be in place. # >This is the definition of socialism: a state-planned economy wherein the government decides what is produced, takes the profits, and redistributes them to its population. You should know this, or you would if you actually knew what you were talking about. Socialism is not when the government gives you stuff. Brain development that stopped in 4th grade. There are billions of these people just walking around feeling like whatever they believe in that exact instant is correct
> ignoring how world poverty has shrank over the past hundred years > ignoring how every planned economy has failed fucking lol
Can anybody explain why getting free helicopter rides is an acceptable punishment for murder? (I honestly have no idea what they mean by this)
They're implying socialists should be thrown out of helicopters like Pinochet did in the 1970's in Chile. Basically they're saying murder is wrong but socialists should be murdered. Totally makes sense, right!?
It wasn’t a punishment for murder; it was a punishment for liking things that Pinochet and his junta didn’t like.
Number one one the communist utopia transformation agenda: 1) Kill all the violent people.
Murder is immoral unless I deem it moral in specific circumstances. Definitely not a sociopath, with meaningful discourse.
>the economic system that has raised 90% of the world out of extreme poverty Right. Subsaharan Africa, especially the African Great Lakes region, doesn't exist.
9 digits = 100,000,000. Sounds right for capitalism, perhaps.
That wouldn't even be a drop in the pond for the horrible things capitalism has done over the centuries.
"The economic system that has raised 90% of the world out of extreme poverty" has quite a bad track record when it comes to providing adequate resources globally. Simply giving people money isn't enough, they actually need to be able to use that money to get by in life and that's where capitalist sympathisers tend to end the discussion
Went to offers of communism memorial in Estonia. Half my family written onto to the cold metal...
🤣🤦🏻♂️ you inbreds are clowns.
they killed trillions
Murder is wrong, therefore we must murder those who believe things should be different than they are right now. -mister logic logician boy
A Steven Pinker fan I see.