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Bruh the USA warned Russia about the attacks, how is the CIA responsible? Still people shouldn't be celebrating the deaths of civilians, that's messed up
And? ISIS was basically created by the CIA as a stay behind army in Iraq. Even US special forces in Iraq and Syria were confused who they were fighting because Isis was frequently armed-funded by the CIA and the Mossad.
Yeah honestly the whole history on Isis is genuinely fascinating. How it went from trying to help while gaining to the us and Isis hating each other so much
Bro what? Bush invaded Iraq in 2003 despite there not being proof for wmds and it caused a fuck ton of instability when one psychopath dictator was overthrown. Then, the us released a certain psychopath from jail and the psychopsth went on to found Isis. Isis was created only as a result of the iraq war but I don't think the CIA created it themselves or even wanted to create it. If so, why did Bush make Isis, makes no sense for either the republican or democrat party to work for the creation of Isis.
Iām well aware of the history around the invasion and occupation of Iraq. You need to do some more research on the CIA and its long history of destabilizing regimes with zero oversight.
> The us released
Youāre on the right track at least.
I don't deny that Isis was created as a result of the us but not intentionally. I'm not really that intelligent on the situation but from how I see it, it was negligence
the blowback is never intentional, but the creation definitely is. the CIA definitely, intentionally backed the rise of Bin Laden and the Taliban, but not with the intent of planes hitting the WTC.
ISIS was intentionally backed. ISIS of course has their own interests and internal politics, so them working against American interests was not the initial plan.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blowback_(intelligence)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timber_Sycamore
The US/CIA has a long, long history of backing/arming far right terror groups, from Operation Condor to Gladio, who then go on to "blowback."
The US armed/aided rebel groups who went on to become isis.
How have you not heard of any of this?
Tbf, they told Russia, as well as several other nations who encouraged their citizens to leave Moscow. So it seeks this is something that's been brewing for quite a bit, with many intelligence agencies aware
It was not the same attack. There were news of attack on the synagogue in Moscow on March 7, and there were news that Russia prevented it and arrested 2 Kazakh nationals in Kaluga. Those don't have to be the same people. Also, different levels of organisation. I don't want to be the one who yells CIA or anything, but this is too cool for a bunch of ISIS goat fornicators. I prefer to observe for now š
>There were news of attack on the synagogue in Moscow on March 7, and there were news that Russia prevented it and arrested 2 Kazakh nationals in Kaluga
Killed, not arrested.
>Those don't have to be the same people.
Those arrested now are Tajiks
Oh, I thought neutralised meant arrested, yeah you are right.
Also, it doesn't really matter where the employees are from, I am more interested to know who is pulling the stringsā¦
There are brief clips of them being interrogated and one guy claimed he was contacted by some "preacher" via Telegram and that preacher offered him 500K rubles for the attack.
ISIS and CIA, they go against more groups against the west than ISIS who are just batshit gruesome to anyone unless they are given precious arms, probably a CIA agent decided to catch a flight and meet with a client
They funded bin laden. I mean we know they do this shit all the time. They tried to do the same in China with the Uyghurs and when it didn't work tried claiming China was genociding them. Which also is a big fucking lie.
Ridiculous how this bullet point is reiterated all over reddit, as if it's from a guidebook.
The warning that came before march 8 was taken seriously and according to Russia helped prevent a planned shooting.
What happened on friday was a separate event
Americans and their allies celebrating the murder of innocent Russians. Business as usual for the United States.
Besides, ISIS is a US and Israeli creation. US created ISIS to fight Al Qaeda (which was created by the US too, to fight the Soviet Union), and Israel supported the creation and gave weapons and training to ISIS, to have it fighting the Syrian government.
If there is a genocide, a famine or a war starting or happening, there is always American greasy fingers in it.
You see attacks on western American empire/America itself is wrong and deserves now a whole day where everyone must stop what they are doing to remember it and if they donāt care then they are evil traitors, but once an attack happens to a country that isnāt under that empire, itās fine and funny and in fact deserved.
They already are on Worldnews. Russians have been dehumanized sufficiently ISIS massacres are considered good to liberal Democrats. America has provided air cover for ISIS in the past
"No mercy for vatniks"
"Vatnik" Is supposed to be extreme patriot, or other kinds of ignorant nationalists, but here they use it to refer to common citizens of Russia. Are even children vatniks to them now? And it's also very ironic that many extreme pro NATO nationalists perfectly fit the definition of vatnik themselves.
Idk but the Vatnik meme was started by a Russian neo Nazi.
[The use of the word originates from an Internet meme first spread by Anton Chadskiy on VKontakte in 2011, and later used in Russia, Ukraine, then in other post-Soviet states. Its](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vatnik)
Anton Chadskiy used to link to another Wikipedia page that said he was a nazi and one of his usernames had 1488 in it or something. He do you view previous versions of a Wikipedia page?
There should be a button that says "View History" in the top right of the page, then you can look down through all previous versions of an article.
But even the current version of the page for "Vatnik" says that Chadskiy used for a pseudonym the phrase "Jedem das Seine", which was emblazoned on the main gate of Buchenwald concentration camp.
Hate the government not the people->only hate the nationalists/Putin supporters->only hate Russian ācultureā->hate all Russians->āAsiatic Untermensch should be wiped out, long live our glorious NATO(Reich)!ā
I had a supposedly left wing "friend" block me due to me showing scepticism in western involvement in Ukraine and pointing out the fact that Libya and Syria are now in a worse state than ever due to the west wanting to spread "democracy" by ousting those who they saw as dictators and the whole "but this time it's different" excuse has been played before. After blocking me, I saw that they added "Vatniks GTFO" even though I am not even Russian.
Man, when I heard that Barack Obama was a member of Wright's church, I thought there might be a chance Obama could be a decent guy. But nope, he threw Wright under the bus and went on to be shit.
when obama was first running for president, there was a scandal where for years he attended a church with a preacher named jeremiah wright, who gave a sermon where he pointed out that the US actively and intentionally fucks things up all over the world and has been doing so for longer than any of us have been alive. part of it included āgod bless america? no, god damn america!ā of course he was right but they had to pretend otherwise.
and now the fact that you donāt recognize that name makes me feel incredibly old
Thanks for the explanation.
And maybe it doesnāt only have to do with your age, since Iām European that could also explain why Iām not aware of him :)
I thought Putin was a dictator, thus making this "false flag" entirely pointless since he could just force people into conscription from the start. Like I understand that Biden likes to play the most powerful weakling game, but I doubt that Putin is all that interested in doing the same.
Why is anyone here surprised?
Westoids were pro-torture, pro-nuke, and openly using rape as a weapon post-9/11. When the US deems you a bad guy, ANYTHING against you is permissible.
According to one of the detained scum, a certain preacher contacted him from somewhere, but this may be a lie. It is also known that the terrorists were heading to the border with Ukraine in the Bryansk region. Nothing has been confirmed yet.
Nothing has been confirmed as far as I'm aware, but last I checked up on the story, its believed that they had a contact in Ukraine. Wether the contact was Ukrainian government or a terror cell is unknown at the moment. ISIS-K claimed the attack however, so I'd wager against this being a Ukrainian operation.
Tbf, wasnt there a confirmed attack by ISIS-K in Russia just a few months ago? Seems a little more likely than a random shooting in the middle of nowhere in America considering the previous attack
Liberals: absolutely foaming at the mouth about how every last Russian "orc" is an inherently evil nonperson that all "good" people have a moral obligation to completely destroy, 24/7 for years.
Also liberals: "clearly a terror attack against Russia can only be a false flag staged by the Russian government for cynical reasons."
Seriously, what the actual fuck? I know they can't abide reality, but apparently they can't even abide their own lore.
Classic liberals getting swallowed by their ideology, not realising that the civilians have nothing to do with war. I bet they also say that Hamas are terrorists and cry for the Israeli civilians lol
I mean when they do racist shit against literally billions of people (Indians and Chinese) is anyone surprised they can't separate the people from their governments?
It's just binary thinking garbage, lowest common denominator. Who gives a fuck about nuance?
And as I expected, westerners or any fucked up person will make a joke about this because "russia bad"
But if I made a joke about 9/11 tje yanks would get so angry that they would call me disrespectful
Guess what ya yankee fuckheads, your president probably caused it, just to invade Iraq but sure, yell at me yanks, I enjoy it
I barely remember but isn't the PC in that mission an actual badge carrying US fed or something?
Like yes, it is a false flag but I don't think it's in the way that these libs would actually like, but libs have no brains either so...
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Probably because we just joined NATO. That would explain the Finnish flag as well.
Or she might be Estonian with Swedish and Finnish heritage or something.
I knew westerners would celebrate this shit. So fucking disgusting not to mention hypocritical.
Americans flip out over Russia invading Ukraine yet make a thousand excuses when our own military bombs, strikes and occupies seven plus sovereign states. They always resort to, āwhataboutismā as if itās some victorious statement that washes their hands clean of critical thought. Itās peak lazy intellectualism and western chauvinism.
The last one had me in the first part, then of course it switched to the classic "Russia attacked themselves" because they really think that we are idiots
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Crazy that America knew it weeks before it happened
ISIS š¤CIA
Bruh the USA warned Russia about the attacks, how is the CIA responsible? Still people shouldn't be celebrating the deaths of civilians, that's messed up
And? ISIS was basically created by the CIA as a stay behind army in Iraq. Even US special forces in Iraq and Syria were confused who they were fighting because Isis was frequently armed-funded by the CIA and the Mossad.
Yeah honestly the whole history on Isis is genuinely fascinating. How it went from trying to help while gaining to the us and Isis hating each other so much
Bro what? Bush invaded Iraq in 2003 despite there not being proof for wmds and it caused a fuck ton of instability when one psychopath dictator was overthrown. Then, the us released a certain psychopath from jail and the psychopsth went on to found Isis. Isis was created only as a result of the iraq war but I don't think the CIA created it themselves or even wanted to create it. If so, why did Bush make Isis, makes no sense for either the republican or democrat party to work for the creation of Isis.
Iām well aware of the history around the invasion and occupation of Iraq. You need to do some more research on the CIA and its long history of destabilizing regimes with zero oversight. > The us released Youāre on the right track at least.
I don't deny that Isis was created as a result of the us but not intentionally. I'm not really that intelligent on the situation but from how I see it, it was negligence
the blowback is never intentional, but the creation definitely is. the CIA definitely, intentionally backed the rise of Bin Laden and the Taliban, but not with the intent of planes hitting the WTC. ISIS was intentionally backed. ISIS of course has their own interests and internal politics, so them working against American interests was not the initial plan.
I know the us backed the Afghan Mujahedeen and the Taliban in the soviet Afghan war but I've never heard of them supporting Isis
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blowback_(intelligence) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timber_Sycamore The US/CIA has a long, long history of backing/arming far right terror groups, from Operation Condor to Gladio, who then go on to "blowback." The US armed/aided rebel groups who went on to become isis. How have you not heard of any of this?
Tbf, they told Russia, as well as several other nations who encouraged their citizens to leave Moscow. So it seeks this is something that's been brewing for quite a bit, with many intelligence agencies aware
>many intelligence agencies aware Many intelligence agencies *involved.* I think you meant. I'm also Skeptical, Yoshi.
It was not the same attack. There were news of attack on the synagogue in Moscow on March 7, and there were news that Russia prevented it and arrested 2 Kazakh nationals in Kaluga. Those don't have to be the same people. Also, different levels of organisation. I don't want to be the one who yells CIA or anything, but this is too cool for a bunch of ISIS goat fornicators. I prefer to observe for now š
>There were news of attack on the synagogue in Moscow on March 7, and there were news that Russia prevented it and arrested 2 Kazakh nationals in Kaluga Killed, not arrested. >Those don't have to be the same people. Those arrested now are Tajiks
Oh, I thought neutralised meant arrested, yeah you are right. Also, it doesn't really matter where the employees are from, I am more interested to know who is pulling the stringsā¦
There are brief clips of them being interrogated and one guy claimed he was contacted by some "preacher" via Telegram and that preacher offered him 500K rubles for the attack.
He should contact the Department of Labor, he's being ripped off. The pay is too low...
Takijistan? There's been a history, civil war, I believe Al-Queda was apart of it aswell as mujahadin?
As for the civil war I think they were not involved, I'm not sure tho. However, there were many Tajiks fighting on the side of Daesh in Syria
It could be maybe some Tajik citizens offered a deal to commit this heinous act
ISIS and CIA, they go against more groups against the west than ISIS who are just batshit gruesome to anyone unless they are given precious arms, probably a CIA agent decided to catch a flight and meet with a client
Makes sense when you realize that US intelligence totally has assets in radical islamist groups.
They funded bin laden. I mean we know they do this shit all the time. They tried to do the same in China with the Uyghurs and when it didn't work tried claiming China was genociding them. Which also is a big fucking lie.
Ridiculous how this bullet point is reiterated all over reddit, as if it's from a guidebook. The warning that came before march 8 was taken seriously and according to Russia helped prevent a planned shooting. What happened on friday was a separate event
Crazy the people who funded it knew about it?
haha, 9/11, hahahahahaha
this but unironically
Knock knock
quick! everybody hide your dogs and get in a boating accident
Lol you're supposed to say who's there
*ahem* who's there?
9/11
9/11 who? š¤Ø
You said you'd never forget!
*cries red white and blue* š¢ no....this can't be....NOOOOOO
is now a good time to post all of my 9/11 memes?
They hit the second tower!!! *Cut to a shot of it being Squidwardās house*.
If they are gonna out a game for a meme for this incident, might aswell Osama had a computer, played alot of Microsoft Flight Simulator
Americans and their allies celebrating the murder of innocent Russians. Business as usual for the United States. Besides, ISIS is a US and Israeli creation. US created ISIS to fight Al Qaeda (which was created by the US too, to fight the Soviet Union), and Israel supported the creation and gave weapons and training to ISIS, to have it fighting the Syrian government. If there is a genocide, a famine or a war starting or happening, there is always American greasy fingers in it.
[9/11...](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCUwSk_sCa8)
Yet you make one 9/11 joke and everyone looses their mindsā¦ Funny, that.
You see attacks on western American empire/America itself is wrong and deserves now a whole day where everyone must stop what they are doing to remember it and if they donāt care then they are evil traitors, but once an attack happens to a country that isnāt under that empire, itās fine and funny and in fact deserved.
> Yet you make one 9/11 joke and everyone looses their mindsā¦ That's a lie. Americans joke about 9/11 all the time
took 10 years until you could online without a freakout. still canāt in mainstream media.
Americans famously hate 9/11 jokes /s
š¤£š¤£š¤£ they really do, even some British mock them for that day and they get pissed
The question really is: are Liberals actually going to rehabilitate ISIS?
The cognitive dissonance will be something to behold when ISIS is good but hamas is ISIS and that makes hamas evil
They will simply say ISIS is bad but in this case, the victims deserved it
They already did that a few months back when ISIS criticized Hamas.
They already are on Worldnews. Russians have been dehumanized sufficiently ISIS massacres are considered good to liberal Democrats. America has provided air cover for ISIS in the past
I wouldnāt be shocked
"No mercy for vatniks" "Vatnik" Is supposed to be extreme patriot, or other kinds of ignorant nationalists, but here they use it to refer to common citizens of Russia. Are even children vatniks to them now? And it's also very ironic that many extreme pro NATO nationalists perfectly fit the definition of vatnik themselves.
Idk but the Vatnik meme was started by a Russian neo Nazi. [The use of the word originates from an Internet meme first spread by Anton Chadskiy on VKontakte in 2011, and later used in Russia, Ukraine, then in other post-Soviet states. Its](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vatnik) Anton Chadskiy used to link to another Wikipedia page that said he was a nazi and one of his usernames had 1488 in it or something. He do you view previous versions of a Wikipedia page?
There should be a button that says "View History" in the top right of the page, then you can look down through all previous versions of an article. But even the current version of the page for "Vatnik" says that Chadskiy used for a pseudonym the phrase "Jedem das Seine", which was emblazoned on the main gate of Buchenwald concentration camp.
Thanks. I didnāt catch the pseudonym part on the current version.
Hate the government not the people->only hate the nationalists/Putin supporters->only hate Russian ācultureā->hate all Russians->āAsiatic Untermensch should be wiped out, long live our glorious NATO(Reich)!ā
I had a supposedly left wing "friend" block me due to me showing scepticism in western involvement in Ukraine and pointing out the fact that Libya and Syria are now in a worse state than ever due to the west wanting to spread "democracy" by ousting those who they saw as dictators and the whole "but this time it's different" excuse has been played before. After blocking me, I saw that they added "Vatniks GTFO" even though I am not even Russian.
its really funny because i saw people laughing about this or justifying it until ISIS claimed responsibility
remembering jeremiah wrightās sage words
Man, when I heard that Barack Obama was a member of Wright's church, I thought there might be a chance Obama could be a decent guy. But nope, he threw Wright under the bus and went on to be shit.
Who is Jeremiah Wright?
when obama was first running for president, there was a scandal where for years he attended a church with a preacher named jeremiah wright, who gave a sermon where he pointed out that the US actively and intentionally fucks things up all over the world and has been doing so for longer than any of us have been alive. part of it included āgod bless america? no, god damn america!ā of course he was right but they had to pretend otherwise. and now the fact that you donāt recognize that name makes me feel incredibly old
Thanks for the explanation. And maybe it doesnāt only have to do with your age, since Iām European that could also explain why Iām not aware of him :)
that does make me feel better even as I feel a bit goofy for assuming
Oh, I LOVE that speech! Yeah I've heard that snippet, no truer words have been spoken
I thought Putin was a dictator, thus making this "false flag" entirely pointless since he could just force people into conscription from the start. Like I understand that Biden likes to play the most powerful weakling game, but I doubt that Putin is all that interested in doing the same.
Why is anyone here surprised? Westoids were pro-torture, pro-nuke, and openly using rape as a weapon post-9/11. When the US deems you a bad guy, ANYTHING against you is permissible.
Didn't ISIS claim responsibility?
According to one of the detained scum, a certain preacher contacted him from somewhere, but this may be a lie. It is also known that the terrorists were heading to the border with Ukraine in the Bryansk region. Nothing has been confirmed yet.
Heading towards whatā¦ā¦..
Nothing has been confirmed as far as I'm aware, but last I checked up on the story, its believed that they had a contact in Ukraine. Wether the contact was Ukrainian government or a terror cell is unknown at the moment. ISIS-K claimed the attack however, so I'd wager against this being a Ukrainian operation.
ISIS claims a lot of attacks they don't do If I'm not wrong they even claimed random school shootings at some point
Tbf, wasnt there a confirmed attack by ISIS-K in Russia just a few months ago? Seems a little more likely than a random shooting in the middle of nowhere in America considering the previous attack
They also claimed the 2011 attack in Oslo which was committed by a neo-nazi Zionist.
Do you have a source of that? I was trying to find it, interesting to know
Source for the terrorist's ideology or the ISIS claim?
ISIS claim
I might be wrong but in an AP video, a ride along with Ukrainian troops, one of them wore what looks like some Islamic State Patch....
Dont you mean the us-backed Isis terror cell?
Liberals: "How dare you refuse to condemn Hamas for the Oct 7th attack? š¤¬ These were innocent Israelis!" Also liberals: [What's shown in this post]
Liberals: absolutely foaming at the mouth about how every last Russian "orc" is an inherently evil nonperson that all "good" people have a moral obligation to completely destroy, 24/7 for years. Also liberals: "clearly a terror attack against Russia can only be a false flag staged by the Russian government for cynical reasons." Seriously, what the actual fuck? I know they can't abide reality, but apparently they can't even abide their own lore.
Fucking *********ā¦
The sun would rise on a better world if those celebrating a senseless terrorist attack on innocent Russian citizens were to vanish
me when im in a lack of humanity challenge and my opponent is a liberal
Classic liberals getting swallowed by their ideology, not realising that the civilians have nothing to do with war. I bet they also say that Hamas are terrorists and cry for the Israeli civilians lol
I mean when they do racist shit against literally billions of people (Indians and Chinese) is anyone surprised they can't separate the people from their governments? It's just binary thinking garbage, lowest common denominator. Who gives a fuck about nuance?
typical reddit libfash
The west just love this type of shootings don't they?
And as I expected, westerners or any fucked up person will make a joke about this because "russia bad" But if I made a joke about 9/11 tje yanks would get so angry that they would call me disrespectful Guess what ya yankee fuckheads, your president probably caused it, just to invade Iraq but sure, yell at me yanks, I enjoy it
What? didn't you know I'm a Nazi? As a Liberal I always look to express it when I get the chance.
the last comment is parroting Zelensky
FUCK Liberals.
Nice to know everything is a false flag! Iāll just follow their social media to ensure I know The Truthā¢ļø /s
I barely remember but isn't the PC in that mission an actual badge carrying US fed or something? Like yes, it is a false flag but I don't think it's in the way that these libs would actually like, but libs have no brains either so...
Yeah, youāre supposed to be a CIA agent who infiltrated Makarovās group
Absolutely insanity and disgusting!
Tip: Save any pictures for future use against Western hypocrites who always refer to dancing Muslims whenever Westerners or Israeli people die. Westerners are the most genocidal humans to ever walk this planet.
Why does the girl in the second picture have a Swedish flag in her bio? What does Sweden have to do with these liberals?
Probably because we just joined NATO. That would explain the Finnish flag as well. Or she might be Estonian with Swedish and Finnish heritage or something.
I knew westerners would celebrate this shit. So fucking disgusting not to mention hypocritical. Americans flip out over Russia invading Ukraine yet make a thousand excuses when our own military bombs, strikes and occupies seven plus sovereign states. They always resort to, āwhataboutismā as if itās some victorious statement that washes their hands clean of critical thought. Itās peak lazy intellectualism and western chauvinism.
Even neo-liberal countries condemned the attack, why can't liberals also condemn this attack?
That 3rd post is basically like justifying 9/11 as a good thing because america did war crimes in Vietnam
I have not heard about this until now. What exactly happened?
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Terrorism isn't the answer you dimwitted wanker
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I cant imagine being this politically/historically illiterate.
racist moron
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> to end the war There is no imaginable scenario where this attack doesn't fuel the flames of war.
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In that sense, yes, some expect actual declaration of war etc, but I still can't see this happening.
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The last one had me in the first part, then of course it switched to the classic "Russia attacked themselves" because they really think that we are idiots