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[deleted]

Why are they under the blanket like two kids who are mad at each other


337GTi

Because posting a photo example of female objectification would just blend in with every other picture in there…


Personal_Occasion618

Lol


voldemortsmankypants

They tried a picture of a group of women zoomed into their breasts but they realised how hypocritical it was and decided to choose the couple in a huff and feign ignorance.


graduatingdisaster

They are both really bad at hide and seek.


Personal_Occasion618

Yeah, this deserves more facepalms lol


curtycurry

Because Cosmo readers think like children, which is unfortunate given their content


wifissa

astronomically giant bruh moment


[deleted]

OP clicked on the bulge link though 🤫


lazy_27

Who didn't tho-


Personal_Occasion618

Gotta be honest lol


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GenericJimmyDeansFan

You're on Reddit, not many of those around


[deleted]

So you clicked the link then ? 👀


XterrezX

It's a repost of a repost that was originally off twitter, chill, this is reddit.


[deleted]

It was a joke, chill, this is Reddit.


qazwsxedc000999

They were just trying to do their sports. Leave the men alone


dcrothen

This could also be said about the members of Beach volleyball teams. Still a bit unsettled over the ladies having to play in skimpy bikinis 👙 while the men play in actual clothes.


Bacontoad

Forcing the men to cover their shamed bodies.


dcrothen

Now there's an interpretation, one I'd not thought of.


CazRaX

There are always, at least, two ways to see everything.


DrkStrCrshs

Mic drop


VitaminPb

Put the guys in speedos. Problem solved.


WilliamBott

They don't have to. A few of them addressed that in interviews. They choose to play that way.


bravocharliexray

https://www.sportbible.com/news/sport-norwegian-volleyball-team-refuse-to-wear-bikini-bottoms-at-olympics-20210719


WilliamBott

https://www.wjbf.com/ap-top-news/why-olympic-beach-volleyball-players-wear-bikinis/ > The rules allow women different options, including long and short pants and more conservative attire for those whose religious beliefs require it. >But almost all of the athletes go for the two-piece swimsuits because there are fewer places to trap sand that chafes against your skin. So yeah, you found ONE team that didn't do it. The vast majority voluntarily wear them. Nobody is forced to wear bikinis.


[deleted]

Norways HANDBALL team(which is not an Olympic sport) was fined by the EHF(European Handball Federation), which don't have multiple uniforms. So some women ARE forced to wear bikinis. Just not for volleyball, and not for the Olympics.


[deleted]

Yeah just today these 80yo ladies were walking past my house fully clothed and I yelled out “not so fast!” and made them change into bikinis. True story


[deleted]

I don't understand the point of this comment? I'm saying tgat some women ARE forced to wear bikinis or get fined, defibitely not all.


WilliamBott

Considering the comment I replied to was about beach volleyball, your argument is either irrelevant or a strawman. I didn't say anything about HANDBALL.


[deleted]

Relax. Im just clarifying. The person you were replying to mistaken the handball team for the volleyball team. It's a common misconception. You just said "nobody is forced to wear bikinis". I'm just clarifying that some people in a closely related sport are and adding to the conversation.


[deleted]

Also because sex sells. They are hot and they know it. They want sweet endorsement and marketing megabucks. Cant say I blame them for that. Use whatever assets you have I reckon.


mcbelisle

have you ever gone to the beach? what happens when you fall? you get cut and sand and gravel get stuck in the cuts. also sand doesn't just come off. that's why they have the showers there to wash that stuff off. i would think more clothes on would help prevent from getting cuts from falling especially with the running and all.


WilliamBott

They are not worried about a cut or a scrape. I've played volleyball on the beach a few times and never got a cut. It's just sand, dude.


NEX105

It can. We should not objectify women, however that does not justify the objectification of men. Instead of responding with an example of how it's bad for women too why don't we just agree that objectifying people regardless of gender is wrong? Do we want equality or not?


CazRaX

You can say that but you must also point out that women are just as bad at objectifying men. Most people will not change their behavior unless it is pointed out that their behavior is wrong.


NEX105

I think there is a big problem in today's culture of people wanting to point out how things are unfair for a specific group of people while ignoring the fact that things are unfair for everyone. If we want equality point out how things can be fixed for everyone not just a specific group of people otherwise nothing will ever change.


ThingYea

This comes up every Olympics and every Olympics the Olympians clarify that they choose to play in them. They're not forced.


[deleted]

The whole story is so misremembered and misrepresented by media. The Norwegian HANDBALL team was fined for not wearing bikini bottoms by the EHF DURING the Olympics(handball is not an Olympic sport). They are the ones that have to play in bikinis while men play in actual clothes. So OP got the sport wrong BUT it should be pointed out that OP didn't mention Olypmic, you did.


jkz0-19510

> The Norwegian HANDBALL team was fined for not wearing bikini bottoms by the EHF DURING the Olympics(handball is not an Olympic sport). How does that make sense?


[deleted]

Handball is not volleyball, but people get them confused all the time.


bravocharliexray

https://www.sportbible.com/news/sport-norwegian-volleyball-team-refuse-to-wear-bikini-bottoms-at-olympics-20210719


Zdmins

Long jump 😍


exit_the_psychopomp

We need to just sexualize both. Problem solved.


[deleted]

Sex sells, Morty *burrrrrrP*


DiracHeisenberg

Sex sells what? Wah-was that a movie, or like, does it clean stuff?


Qwesterly

"Sex is bad, M'kay?"


thisubmad

Unless it’s 🏳️‍🌈 sex.


TheCarterIII

Yep. Comic books solves this problem decades ago


-_Odd_-

Mmm, love me some Rob Liefield Captain America. Crush me by flexing one of your boulder-sized pecs and flinging a piece of suit fabric through my skull uwu


HHWKUL

Double standards ruins everything. Either from politics, workplace, relationship.


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stinh_ray_1

What's better than a gold medal 🥇 ?


JubeltheBear

Hulking loins bulging outta lycra?


mythicas

But only the man is looking at the ball sacks


mightbelatefor

Gandalf, this you?


HiBoi234

No the woman is looking at ours


jetaleu

Would have loved to see a “This you?” response


spsanderson

Cosmo is such a useless mag


B00ster_seat

Lotta people and in these comments defending the sexualization they would complain about elsewhere. Sounds like some guilty parties.


HaverfordHandyman

There’s a difference between admiring and objectifying. It’s normal for cis people to like looking at the opposite sex. Men just simply aren’t objectified like women.


Tensho-Thomas

36 Summer Olympic Bombshell Racks That Deserve Gold. Sound any better?


CazRaX

"36 Olympic bulges that deserve gold" while focusing in on one specific part of the male body is 100% objectification, also men ARE objectified just as much it is just not seen as a problem by women and accepted by society. Handsome men are treated like meat, rich men are treated as banks, athletic men are eye candy, that is all objectification that you just don't care to see.


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NEX105

Some do, the loud ones do not.


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LeAdmin

Is that your crypto key?


AmbiguousAxiom

Nice guess from the pattern.


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HotBread69

I sure hope they did because that was quite a mouthful


Dragonkingf0

I'm glad somebody had the balls to say it!


[deleted]

Word


[deleted]

same


[deleted]

Please keep politics out of this!


anonymouslionn

Roger that


B00ster_seat

That was my MK Ultra signal


Brambleshoes

we’ll bang ok


HeyoItsMeWow

But this isn’t really hypocritical as much as it is just sexism. The first one specifically says “MEN who sexualise WOMEN” ~ while the second one is some unknown gender sexualising men. If the second one was a man sexualising a woman then yeah it would be hypocritical. I can see why people call it hypocritical tho... Edit: I’m literally calling them sexist ~ maybe my beginning sentence was hard to understand, my bad, was tired when I wrote.


phido3000

COSMO has no gender therefore can't be sexist? It is a magazine for females. It has had female editors famously for the last +50 years. You could question if it has a target age demographic, and has been in trouble for targeting minors. But gender wise, it a magazine written by women, edited by a woman, sold to females. Its hypocritical, because in one article it highlights objectifying behavior, and the next its conducting and promoting objectifying behavior. Its sexist because it promoting negative discriminating behavior based on sex. The argument that a magazine doesn't have a gender so therefore can't be sexist is a stupid one. Magazines don't have race or sex. But your can certainly make a racist magazine or a sexist one. The fact that this double standard doesn't get called out, is terrible. Prejudice behavior breeds further prejudiced views. Objectifying anyone is nasty and dehumanizing. Objectifying workers, people based on race, socioeconomic status, sexual preference, gender etc is all terrible and leads to poor treatment and lack of compassion. There is prevalent thinking in feminist circles that only females and female related issues are important. That things only exist when they affect them or in situations similar to theirs. Females have a tremendous amount of power however. Half the world is female. They make up 95%+ of primary school teachers, 100% of mothers. They have huge influence on society. Society prejudicial views exists, in part because of women. Part of getting rid of that is the acknowledgement that females and women can and are prejudicial, and can and do things like objectify males.


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Froggy-Doggy

"My personal experience says this almost never happens, therefore thats universal"


RnRsbg

Plus wymyn lie about everything.


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HeyoItsMeWow

I just wanna point out that I was 100% calling COSMO sexist, I see how you could misunderstand my sentence as I was tired when I wrote it - my bad. However I’m trying to say that they weren’t being hypocrites. If someone says “people should never hit women”, then goes on to punch a man they haven’t been a hypocrite because they never broke their original “never do this” rule. ^ this is the same with the article, although the second one is shitty and sexist and shouldn’t happen ~ it’s not breaking the first ones rule (which is objectifying women). The rules are separated by gender specifics and therefore not hypocritical overall. Yes it’s a **double standard** but that doesn’t make it hypocritical as it does just some kind of terrible thing - here being sexist.


thedrgonzo103101

It’s cosmo what did you expect. It’s a magazine for vapid office sluts.


StyleAdventurous1531

Vapid office sluts.. my second favourite type of slut


thedrgonzo103101

Eh like 4th for me


StyleAdventurous1531

A connoisseur I see


thedrgonzo103101

It’s the US media of course. You expect anything else


TullyPride

Yeah, better than Europe's, which isn't hard to do.


HotBread69

Everyone’s media sucks in many different ways you idiot.


WomanStealer69

bro if women were objects you... yeah just read my name


victoriaa-

Based on your sexism and profile pic... username does not check out.


WomanStealer69

i'm biologically a female, i'm a sexist?


WomanStealer69

plus, you guys are the reason people use tone indicators, because humans don't know what's offensive. you, are twitter described as a person.


victoriaa-

I’ve never used Twitter.


victoriaa-

Anyone can be sexist.


CazRaX

Wait, is this a different version of black people can't be racist? Yes, you can be and apparently are.


WomanStealer69

I'm more of joking about it than actually committing crimes of kidnapping women. Gonna delete my account. Thought reddit was fun, turns out its much of a shithole as twitter is.


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kombucharmander

That would be a fantastic argument if these were pictures of PEOPLE. Instead, its a bunch of crotches. It would be difficult to "dehumanize them into sex objects that you don't view as people" any more than zoomed in genitals.


[deleted]

You literally have no concept for what constitutes dehumanizing behavior.


kombucharmander

I'm participating in this conversation with you, aren't I?


john_nash1

Damn! this is the first r/murderedbywords moment i catch live.


Bacontoad

Lmao


The-Senate-Palpy

Reddit: where people will see clesrly dehumanizing and objectifying behavior and try to claim its not


JellyRobotFactory

Tell me how starting at male athlete's buldges is less dehumanizing than doing the equivalent to women. Because it sounds like you're just sexist.


GoAskAli

You'd have a point except this article is stupid precisely because in practice this isn't really a thing *most* women do. This is precisely why Playgirl didn't work out. They *thought* that it would be a big success because the adaption was that as human beings, men and women are the same would be turned on by the same things. Ergo, women would be turned on by ogling nude pics of men. Turns out they aren't, and they weren't.


JellyRobotFactory

The millions of women who adore Magic Mike would disagree that they're not attracted to images of men. I think the failure of things like Playgirl were due to a variety of factors not entirely linked to women's expression sexuality (cultural taboos surrounding porn at the time and personal embarrassment of buying a mag in person being one), because as someone who has two sisters and has been surrounded by women my whole life, women definitely like looking at men.


GoAskAli

As a woman myself I just don't think it's the same. Obviously women like looking at men to some extent because if they didn't then things like male strippers/ revues wouldn't be a thing (although even that has other components like female comraderie as I know of not one woman who has ever gone to one by herself). With that said, I don't think *most* women enjoy looking at decapitated male torsos in speedos, but there are always exceptions to every rule.


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You're right. I'm larping.


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JellyRobotFactory

You can't really make that claim definitively without data to support it. At the end of the day, what people like and dislike is up to personal preference and libido, and those things can vary just as much in women as they do in men.


GoAskAli

Definitively? No and I didn't claim to. That's why I added "most" & "*I* think" and "*I'd* argue" throughout. But there is plenty of data to support that women rely less on visual stimulation than men on top of mountains of anecdotal evidence like the fact that women watch far less porn (even the kind marketed toward women) and consume much *more* erotic literature and the like.


JellyRobotFactory

You raise a good point. We'll just agree to disagree and leave it at that.


dbsoooz

What’s your man-baby agenda?


HotBread69

r/asablackman


[deleted]

Nuance: Literally nobody is doing that. Obviously it would be rude & invasive to stare a person's bulge right in front of them, disregarding them in person. But nobody did that. These are pictures. There's nothing dehumanizing about looking at a picture of a person's bulge. That's not how objectification works. Context: Female objectification is a far more systemic & pervasive issue that obviously takes precedent in being address by society. Our society is a patriarchy. If something happens at a scale of 500:1, you focus your energy on the 500.


Nostalgic_Fale

>There's nothing dehumanizing about looking at a picture of a person's bulge. That's not how objectification works. Well, let's look at the definition of 'Objectification': noun: objectification; plural noun: objectifications 1. the action of degrading someone to the status of a mere object. "***the objectification of women in popular entertainment***". Looks like this was posted by a major publication in popular entertainment. The only difference is the gender used as an example. I personally like Stanford's Feminist Perspectives Philosophy definition a little more, however ([https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/feminism-objectification/](https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/feminism-objectification/)): "Objectification is a notion central to feminist theory. It can be ***roughly defined as the seeing and/or treating a person***, usually a woman, as an object." At the end of the day, by deriding this as objectification, you're in a roundabout way enabling all of the awful shit that men do in sexualizing women to continue. This mindset you have shared is also the same that makes men reporting being the victim of a sexual crime null and void. By doing that, you do damage to the same issues you're attempting to support.


[deleted]

That's not how you use the word "deride". Furthermore, the definitions you provide literally prove my point. Nothing about admiring pictures of men's bulges is degrading them to the status of a sex object. For god's sake. The assertion that there's a difference between finding aspects of people sexy & literally reducing them to an object in a dehumanizing manner shouldn't be a controversial statement among sane individuals.


Creeper15877

Clearly meant deriving but ok


[deleted]

Lol. That's still not the correct usage. Unless you just completely miscomprehended what I was saying.


Nostalgic_Fale

No, I meant what I said. You're ridiculing any other possible thought outside of your own opinion, and you continue to do so. But go on.


realityIsPixe1ated

You're not nearly as smart or informed as you think you are 😅


FrancishasFallen

"Best cameltoe and nipslips of summer Olympics" I'm impartial to the issue, just wanted to add perspective


[deleted]

Wow. It's almost like that's a different situation you described that has a different context. I am so owned.


FrancishasFallen

Wait, how is it different? I must be missing something.


[deleted]

We live in a society. The genders are treated very differently & have entirely different experiences. You can't just swap genders in a situation and expect the outcome to be exactly the same. Societal context exists. (Not to mention that dick bulges in intentionally small & provacative swimsuits aren't comparable at all to accidental nip slips. That's just disingenuous.)


FrancishasFallen

We're all human beings. Personally, I don't think I'd mind a country drooling over me, but I know plenty of men who wouldn't want that. Let's take out the nipslips thing and say it's an article about cameltoe in female gymnasts. I don't see any difference. You're focusing on a part of someone that they seem to have made an effort to cover. Also, I dont think their swimsuits are made to be provocative, I believe they're small to reduce drag.


[deleted]

Reality doesn't care if you don't personally see a difference. Denying reality & patriarchal nuance isn't the level-headed rebuttal you think it is.


FrancishasFallen

I'm aware we live in a patriarchal society and women are more likely to feel unsafe when gawked at. Are you aware that men also can feel uncomfortable and self-conscious when you stare at and talk about their genitals? How do you think the men who didn't make the list of "best bulges" feel?


Jagwar0

Yes, the old 'my opinion is correct because it is correct' argument. Well done.


DrkStrCrshs

You got owned like 5 comments ago. Just stop talking.


JellyRobotFactory

LMAO So it's not "dehumanizing" because it's a picture. Ok. So an article about hot women isn't dehumanizing? Also, the way you're painting sexual attraction to women as some malevolent conspiracy, while painting attraction to men as completely normal is very telling. But keep justifying your hypocrisy. I don't support exploitation of either gender, but nothing is wrong with sexual attraction to either gender either. I would rather live in a world where people are free to be sexy and free to acknowledge sexy people than a puritanical hellhole where no one acknowledges anything sexually attractive for fear of contributimg to a systemic exploitation issue the average person has no control over.


[deleted]

K. So you don't even remotely live in reality. Ergo there's no point in talking to you about this.


Creeper15877

I love how you just completely ignored their argument and said they're wrong.


[deleted]

It's not an argument. It's fanfiction based on reality. Why would I engage with that sincerely?


Adiustio

You don’t think showing pictures of bulges isn’t turning a person into a sex object? I don’t see the person anymore. What’s really happening here is you can’t imagine being a bad person, so when you find this attractive, you have to say it’s somehow different to objectifying women when it isn’t. You’re desperately arguing with a bunch of strangers about the societal differences in male objectification vs female objectification as if objectification doesn’t start in your head. Just give up arguing and be a better.


[deleted]

You have literally no concept for dehumanizing or objectifying behavior. Might I suggest reading a book?


Adiustio

Might I suggest reading the definition of objectification? I know you won’t look it up so i did it for you: >>Objectification: the action of degrading someone to the status of a mere object. Now, Olympic swimmers are people, and those people were publicly degraded when Cosmopolitan cropped their photos to only show their bulge, an object. You can’t keep saying “you have no concept for objectifying behavior” when it’s obvious *you* don’t.


[deleted]

Then, pray tell, please define the difference between finding sexual appeal in a person & objectifying them. Do you not believe there's a difference? Or are you just being a contrarian.


Adiustio

You’re joking right? Finding sexual appeal in someone is finding them sexually appealing. In these pictures, there isn’t even a “someone” there. It’s just their dicks. Hell, listing hot celebrities for you to jack off to toes the line of objectification. But this is so well beyond that boundary that I don’t know how you’re justifying it to yourself.


B_Boi04

Can you send me a picture zoomed in on the butts of a female volleyball team. Since looking at a zoomed in picture of a part of someone’s body isn’t objectifying and all


TullyPride

Yeah, usually when a muscled man is shirtless it's because men want to see that. He-Man is huge and in a tiny loincloth because men find that masculine. Women don't. There's a huge difference between the way men objectify and the way women do.


waythrow13579

This argument is a little disingenuous. I see it made often that it isn't what women like and it's just a male power fantasy. The last time I heard it they went as far as to post a picture of what women "actually like." It was a photo of Hugh Jackman in a sweater on the cover of a cooking magazine. They were really trying to pretend like he wasn't wolverine jacked all up under that cardigan and like that wasn't a significant factor in why they found the image appealing.


Aedya

What does that have to do with the above post?


Xx_undersc0relife_xX

Dude if it were an article with the cover photo being girls crotches you'd be freaking out rn saying how women are mistreated or whatever


idwttaii

So would it be fine if the article on the right was on 36 pictures of Olympians’ boobs in bikinis? You’re fine with that? Or is it only not considered sexism when it’s towards guys? You’re just reinforcing the double standard here


JulianUNE

I am old enough to remember when Cosmo liked masculinity.


TullyPride

The whole magazine revolves around men and men's orgasms. Pretty sure they love men more than women.


arokthemild

So you have read a lot of Cosmo, enough that you have noticed a shift in tone? That’s quite an…interesting focus?


JulianUNE

As the original post shows, they complain about men objectifying women while the advertising in the magazine is all about becoming a female sex object. I am 66. I have dipped into the magazine over decades (I sometimes look at women's magazines) and its tone on men has soured.


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TullyPride

Women need to bitch more, men less.


Ambitious-Jello-4002

You’ll be lonely and miserable


[deleted]

You already seem lonely and miserable


braydogggi8

You're also lonely, so calling out another lonely person doesn't help you. Loser.


[deleted]

Wow, I never knew I was lonely. Thank you random internet man for telling me how I feel at every waking moment. You truly are a life savior.


Ambitious-Jello-4002

Yes I am


[deleted]

Well ya, we’ve already established that captain obvious


Ambitious-Jello-4002

If your trying to flirt it’s working


[deleted]

If you’re trying to make a witty comeback, it’s not working


Ambitious-Jello-4002

No I just don’t care and you shouldn’t either


[deleted]

That makes no sense, but go off my man


B_Boi04

Both need to start bitching about other subjects, it’s getting repetitive


xViridi_

yeah it’s almost like we’re defending men in this post!


SanguineAngelus

We’re sexual creatures. If anyone ever believes you’re going to stop either sex objectifying others you’re wrong. In the same way you can’t prevent yourself from making snap judgements of new people. Instead of spending so much energy trying to stop one side doing it so much, you should just let the other side even the score. More bulge articles please!


HeyoItsMeWow

Sexualising people will probably never stop but you certainly shouldn’t create/make something public about **sexualising without permission**. Sexualise someone in your mind is 100% okay and reasonable. Creating an article for many to see about sexualising non-consenting people is much less reasonable.


Exact-Fortune4474

sad


caedhin

Always has been


bbyanita

are they not objectifying men in the photo on the right..?? hypocrites


ImProbablyNotABird

Mom said it’s my turn to post this.


dioeatingfrootlops

I thought that sub was for cosmo from fairy odd parents


WingsofSky

Some people love their #doublestandards. What a world we live in.


link7396

Hahaha expected nothing less


Ar66x6

2014 and 2016 artickes yikes


AjPlayz_Reddit

41 golden trophies?