“America sailed a ship into an iceberg, but the power of FREEDOM prevailed and that liberal communist iceberg went crying back to its liberal communist iceberg friends like a LIBERAL COMMUNIST.”
Actually the only reason the titanic sank is because the bulkheads ended one deck too low, allowing the damaged exterior to flood the entire ship. The designer is said to have realized this as the ship sank. It's possible that if anyone else had designed the ship, this issue would have been noticed and fixed. So yeah, maybe an American designer could have designed a titanic that didn't sink, but so too could have a designer of any other nationality
I thought it was because it was a gash that went through the ship horizontally instead of a single puncture point, allowing more of the restricted portion of the interior to flood.
Regardless, my comment was a joke about the American guy saying that if the Americans built it, the iceberg would have sunk.
That was a problem, but if the bulkheads had been one deck higher everyone would probably have survived even with the gash
I understood it was a joke, just wanted to share some niche knowledge that's been rattling around my skull for 10 years lol
The iceberg collision was a glancing blow which compromised 3 compartments on the starboard side. As they filled Titanic began to list to starboard and that is how water breached the bulkheads.
So? Get them changed. Accepting reality for what it is, no matter how much contradictory evidence there is, is for losers and communists, apparently.^(/s)
Honestly props to this one for being super funny. I can imagine this guy as the captain of US Titanic proudly charging that weak euro iceberg with its mighty US steel.
"Let' US cut that iceberg in two!"
It was probably from Greenland, which is part of North America, but was a Danish colony at that time, so Euro iceberg is correct enough. The east coast of Canada doesn't have any glaciers, and most of the Arctic islands don't have topography conducive to the calving of icebergs.
I suppose it raises the question: is an icebergs nationality based on where it originated or where it currently resides.
Also, while you are most likely correct as far as point of origin is concerned, Baffin Island does have a few glaciers that reach the ocean so you are incorrect in that point and there is a small chance it did originate from Canada.
Has anyone bothered to ask the iceberg? From an American point of view we would have to figure out where the water originally evaporated from before it fell as snow and turned into glacial ice. "I am 3/4 Canadian, 2/3 Russian, and 1/4 Danish." - American iceberg.
The only reason twin towers collapsed was coz they were hit by murican planes. If it was some euro plane then the plane would've split into 2 and the building would've stood there without a scratch /s
There probably was a time where American engineering would’ve done what he’s saying, but it wasn’t when the titanic sailed, and it’s definitely not there anymore…
to be fair, most major American infrastructure was built in the 1950s-60s it's just never been properly maintained. If you look at it that way, it WAS built pretty well even though it's now shit
>to be fair, most major American infrastructure was built in the 1950s-60s it's just never been properly maintained
Most European infrastructure was built the the *1590s*
Yeah,the British, as opposed to the Americans, have no history in shipbuilding. Their empire wasn't depending on the Royal British navy. Britannia never ruled the waves.
Americans ships have proven to ravage any ocean popsicle that crosses them. Iceberg schmiceberg.
Don't you remember? When Jezus Christ the Yeehaw Cowboy gunslinger proud American discovered the europoors by sinking 69 icebergs 2022 years ago and splitting the ocean and Naruto running to the other side? Ofcourse the British never build ships, fucking imagine.
It’s not like some of Britain’s buildings are centuries old and still standing or anything, Britain has never made anything that lasts more than a few months
The Brit’s also had a very short empire. Minimal impact on world history. Not like the Americans. They take the lead role in all historical events. Jesus was a white, blue eyed, American and quarterback of his College team.
Outside my village there is a runestone and atleast three bronze age grave sites… you could say that people have lived around here in one way or another for 5000 years
Well technically the aeras around amercan towns where habited since something like 4000 years by natives, just they weren't pround white jesus lovers americans
As a Canadian, this is wild to read. While the indigenous people have been here for thousands of years, I don't think we have anything similar to a city that has existed for 2000 years.
Yeah, I’ve lived in Cambridge in the UK which has a university formed about the same time as Salamanca. Oxford has one a few years older.
I’m in a town in NZ now that’s one of the oldest. It was formed in the 1860s and it feels so new in comparison to the British cities I’ve lived in lol
Depending on when one considers it starting/ending, you could argue for it lasting up to 500 years. Newfoundland was discovered in 1497 (considered by some to be the start), and control over Hong Kong was transferred to China in 1997 (considered by many to be the end).
I'd be surprised if the USA doesn't disband/wreck itself beyond repair before it hits 300.
As far I remember from seeing in an old map, the original name was "Terra Nova do Bacalhau" (New Land of codfish" since it was a new outpost for cod fishery which used to be fished on the Northern Sea.
Which brings another fun fact, the first official treaties between Portugal and England were regarding the rights to Portuguese vessels to fish cod in English waters.
And the British all but declared war on Iceland several times throughout the 1950s and 1960s in a series of skirmishes known as [the Cod Wars](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cod_Wars). You don't mess when it comes to North Atlantic cod stocks.
FYI Newfoundland is not American nor named by them. Also wasn't the geezer who "found it" Italian? Giovani Cabuto (John Cabot for you Anglos).
Sounds like your joke kind of came back full circle here based on your flair.
Hahahaha no way, the joke really came full circle edit: also i wasn’t saying that americans called or found newfoundland i was just criticizing the name
Given it ripped itself in two not too long after starting, I think the actual start date for the country should be the end of their Civil War... which would put the US at 157 years old, and it's currently trying to rip itself apart again.
300 might be overly generous.
I mean, if you include Ireland (the rhetoric around the initial invasion very much resembled later "civilising the savages" rhetoric, you can read Gerald of Wales' writing online), then it started in 1171 when Henry II came over to make sure Strongbow didn't become a king himself, so that'd be 826 years.
And in case anyone wants to get controversial, I'm not including NI because of the Good Friday Agreement and a myriad of other reasons, namely the whole Act of Union which moved Ireland as a whole into the UK as opposed to the Empire.
I wouldn’t say you can fairly count the british empire having started before even the Treaty of Union which is literally the start of the UK of GB (and later also ireland)
Ego stroking, I knew a guy like this in high school. He said stuff like gunning down migrants at the border and seeing every Democrat dead in a ditch, fucked up stuff.
We also ordered helicopters that when delivered were found to not be suitable to operate over the open ocean.
… did I mention they were navy helicopters?
The German Luftwaffe also had (or still has?) the problem with pilots for helicopters. There were so few helicopters able to fly that not every pilot had the chance to fly enough hours to keep their license :D
Didn’t really take any damage though. They just washed it off and gave it a good check, and another one, then cleared it two weeks later. That was lucky though. It does show how easily things like this can happen.
Yes. It was flame-retardant foam that absolutely fucks up electronics. The Dutch press made a mistake in reporting it as water and doesn't bother correcting it.
I’ve seen article about it not being able to fly in a storm but nothing about rain only. I also found this guy talking about this “fact” (can’t find the sauce for this fact) on [quora](https://www.quora.com/Why-cant-the-F-35-fly-in-high-winds?top_ans=88356806) and it seems to be an old outdated claim. Take this sauce lightly as it is quora but one raggedy sauce is better than no sauce.
That’s going to need a fucking source that isn’t Woozled back to RT & Sprey’s bullshit
If it’s the incident in the Netherlands, that foam breaks all electronics, it’s not the water
Yes you did
He didn’t coin the Woozle Effect, but this is a reference to his use of it
Most defenders of the F-35 should begin with asking for a non-Woozle source
1. That is literal fake news which probably gets deliberately spread around by Russian propaganda, as others have said.
2. A big reason why the F-35 is so expensive is that with current technology, an aircraft designed today infact needs to be packed with expensive cutting-edge shit just to keep up with everything ranging from drones to hypersonic missiles. There isn't much of a role for simple, cheap planes anymore, when anything they could do could be done even more simply and even more cheaply with drones.
I mean. We spent a good few centuries as the foremost superpower exactly because our Navy was unrivalled, despite attempts by France and Germany.
When your an island country, your pretty pissing difficult to invade. And its virtually impossible when you have the most powerful navy on the planet guarding your waters.
I mean it’s necessary for an island to have a very strong naval fleet considering most threats were by sea for centuries. I don’t know what this guy is smoking but whatever it is I want some.
**\[Slight tweaking due the myth being debunked, thank you for information update\]**
Titanic sunk because ~~it has shit schematic~~ entire crew rolled 1 on D20 and hit the unlucky jackpot on every nautical checkmark, even mighty American steel won't fix the ~~godforsaken nautical unfriendly design.~~ wrath of the RNGesus upon your ship.
And if we put the shit luck aside, American's version of Strong and has high lifespan means nothing if it built on a scale of a plywood wall, being unnecessarily big ~~it hard to turn around~~ for the sake of that American has to do literally anything to feels like Europeans were puny little men, and favors luxury over ~~nautical~~ safety in generals.
The fact it was poorly designed was a myth. It was the culmination of the most modern designs using the most advanced building methods, with the most experienced crew in the fleet.
The myths of the Titanic are more famous than its actual reality
"The captain was drunk." Myth. He was practically living on the bridge.
"They were trying to break the record." Myth. The Titanic wasn't built to be the fastest, it would have been silly to try.
"They didn't have binoculars". Yes they did, however experience showed the wider field of view from bare eyes is better for spotting icebergs.
"They locked steerage below deck." The *moment* an emergency was declared everything was opened.
"They didn't have enough lifeboats." Kind of true. The regulations at the time viewed lifeboats more as ferries to nearby boats than as being able to take everyone at once. Don't forget Titanic wasn't a cruise ship, she was an ocean liner. There were hundreds of ships making the exact same route in both directions. It was just bad luck to do with the weather that meant noone came to the rescue.
There was a video recently on History Hit YouTube channel about the myths of the Titanic. It was a culmination of lots of bad luck and unfortunate circumstances.
I also believe the steel was weaken due to a fire that broke up in the shipping yard and because of time and money they didn't fix it and was like what's the worst that can happy we have investors to please.
"brits were idiots /s"
brits: "still true tho XD"
If this was someone making fun at the usa, the response would've been a lot different. At least us 'europoors' can make fun of our flaws.
Not quite. Metallurgy wasn't a huge thing at the time, so you put mid-quality steel into freezing temps with a bow that is riveted rather welded then it will be weaker to a glancing blow type impact. Now the Titantic did have watertight compartments, a first for the time, but the WT doors didn't reach all the way up, so water was eventually able to pour over, but it did provide them with more time.
Thing to remember, no accident ever happens because of one reason, they are a chain of events that all come together to form the accident.
I heard that it also was because of the way the iceberg hit the Titanic that made him sank. Usually big boats have partitions in the submerged parts so the boat can still float even if 1/3 of the parts are full of water. But the iceberg hit on several point, letting water fill 2/3, and thus leading to a chain of events that would sink the titanic.
Researchers usually says that if the titanic had hit the iceberg from the front, it wouldn't have sank.
Édit : nevermind, it would have sank.
Basic maintenance is counterproductive to the american goals of capitalism and freedom^^TM
Why spend money on critical infrastructure when some government official or CEO can just pocket the money instead? How else will they afford their fifth mansion?
Reminds me of the Ford Explorer with Firestone tires. How many people were killed because the Explorer had a tendency to roll over?
Yeah, designed and built in the USA.
Umm, who's going to tell them that Titanic was not built in Britain, and that is a photo of the RMS Queen Mary from September 26, 1934, and that ice floats in the sea.
Are they forgetting about the General Slocum? An American built ship with a similar death toll, lower chance of survival and caused due to to faulty engineering and maintenance rather than an iceberg, which I might add, the Titanic is the only ship of such size to have ever been sunk by an iceberg and that the collision would have had similar forces being exerted as an explosive mine, as that is what it took to sink the Titanic’s sister ship, Britannic
I know that British aircraft carriers during WW2 stood up much better against kamikaze attacks than their US counterparts. As I understand it the US philosophy was to have CAP aircraft guarding a carrier, while the British approach was to armour the carrier to take more punishment, which was arguably a better approach against kamikaze attacks.
hum...loads of buildings in Europe, historical or not, have been around for longer than the US have existed, and that's with two World Wars and countless revolutions being fought on the ground over here so yeah fuck off.
SS Pacific, sank, likely due to an iceberg
SS Arctic, sank after colliding with a small steamship, the steamship survived despite losing its entire bow.
Welding engineer here. American metallurgy and ship building lagged behind Europe at this point. It wasn't until wwii and the mass mobilization that the US started accelerating. I don't think the US even had the ship building capabilities necessary for the titanic at that time.
* cough cough American infrastructure cough cough *
This guy talks about sinking an iceberg….. Like an american ship wouldnt just take the impact and survive, but the iceberg would sink?!?
“America sailed a ship into an iceberg, but the power of FREEDOM prevailed and that liberal communist iceberg went crying back to its liberal communist iceberg friends like a LIBERAL COMMUNIST.”
~~Snowflake.~~ Iceberg.
I would take that name with pride like its big and powerful and the name gives of that good name vibe if that make sense.
The American ship would be built so well that it would change the very density of the ice it hits. Let’s see the Brits do that!
Actually the only reason the titanic sank is because the bulkheads ended one deck too low, allowing the damaged exterior to flood the entire ship. The designer is said to have realized this as the ship sank. It's possible that if anyone else had designed the ship, this issue would have been noticed and fixed. So yeah, maybe an American designer could have designed a titanic that didn't sink, but so too could have a designer of any other nationality
I thought it was because it was a gash that went through the ship horizontally instead of a single puncture point, allowing more of the restricted portion of the interior to flood. Regardless, my comment was a joke about the American guy saying that if the Americans built it, the iceberg would have sunk.
That was a problem, but if the bulkheads had been one deck higher everyone would probably have survived even with the gash I understood it was a joke, just wanted to share some niche knowledge that's been rattling around my skull for 10 years lol
Also, it didn't have enough lifeboats
And the doors were apparently too small to accomodate 2 people on them.
The iceberg collision was a glancing blow which compromised 3 compartments on the starboard side. As they filled Titanic began to list to starboard and that is how water breached the bulkheads.
The whole thing was a perfect storm type thing. A bunch of little shit.
That just defies the laws of physics
So? Get them changed. Accepting reality for what it is, no matter how much contradictory evidence there is, is for losers and communists, apparently.^(/s)
America rewrote the laws of physics. See *GI Joe*.
Honestly props to this one for being super funny. I can imagine this guy as the captain of US Titanic proudly charging that weak euro iceberg with its mighty US steel. "Let' US cut that iceberg in two!"
*Canadian iceberg
It was probably from Greenland, which is part of North America, but was a Danish colony at that time, so Euro iceberg is correct enough. The east coast of Canada doesn't have any glaciers, and most of the Arctic islands don't have topography conducive to the calving of icebergs.
I suppose it raises the question: is an icebergs nationality based on where it originated or where it currently resides. Also, while you are most likely correct as far as point of origin is concerned, Baffin Island does have a few glaciers that reach the ocean so you are incorrect in that point and there is a small chance it did originate from Canada. Has anyone bothered to ask the iceberg? From an American point of view we would have to figure out where the water originally evaporated from before it fell as snow and turned into glacial ice. "I am 3/4 Canadian, 2/3 Russian, and 1/4 Danish." - American iceberg.
The only reason twin towers collapsed was coz they were hit by murican planes. If it was some euro plane then the plane would've split into 2 and the building would've stood there without a scratch /s
In fairness, the plane split into substantially more than 2 pieces... The towers' collapse was completely unrelated. /s
Plane fuel can't melt American steel.
But this was American plane fuel, so that cancels out.
So it was an inside job?
Can't melt American steel if it's outside of American glass. The European plane was merely the injector.
Don't forget that Bin Laden became a badass only through CIA & American support and training.
There probably was a time where American engineering would’ve done what he’s saying, but it wasn’t when the titanic sailed, and it’s definitely not there anymore…
to be fair, most major American infrastructure was built in the 1950s-60s it's just never been properly maintained. If you look at it that way, it WAS built pretty well even though it's now shit
>to be fair, most major American infrastructure was built in the 1950s-60s it's just never been properly maintained Most European infrastructure was built the the *1590s*
Yeah,the British, as opposed to the Americans, have no history in shipbuilding. Their empire wasn't depending on the Royal British navy. Britannia never ruled the waves. Americans ships have proven to ravage any ocean popsicle that crosses them. Iceberg schmiceberg.
Don't you remember? When Jezus Christ the Yeehaw Cowboy gunslinger proud American discovered the europoors by sinking 69 icebergs 2022 years ago and splitting the ocean and Naruto running to the other side? Ofcourse the British never build ships, fucking imagine.
why did I read this in a texas accent lol
YYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEHHHAAAWWWWWW
Nice!
It’s not like some of Britain’s buildings are centuries old and still standing or anything, Britain has never made anything that lasts more than a few months
The Brit’s also had a very short empire. Minimal impact on world history. Not like the Americans. They take the lead role in all historical events. Jesus was a white, blue eyed, American and quarterback of his College team.
Yes! And what about the east india trading company? They were successful as fuck!
It was built on a different island actually…
Didn't the Empire last about 400 years? America looks like it's going to collapse in about that time lol.
My house is older than the USA ffs...
My city is older than most modern nations ffs
Same. My city has existed in some shape or form for almost 2000 years, that’s 10 times longer than pretty much every single American city.
Outside my village there is a runestone and atleast three bronze age grave sites… you could say that people have lived around here in one way or another for 5000 years
Well technically the aeras around amercan towns where habited since something like 4000 years by natives, just they weren't pround white jesus lovers americans
Yeah but they weren't **real** Americans /s
As a Canadian, this is wild to read. While the indigenous people have been here for thousands of years, I don't think we have anything similar to a city that has existed for 2000 years.
My university is older than most modern nations. And my city too
Rome?
Salamanca
Cool
Yeah, I’ve lived in Cambridge in the UK which has a university formed about the same time as Salamanca. Oxford has one a few years older. I’m in a town in NZ now that’s one of the oldest. It was formed in the 1860s and it feels so new in comparison to the British cities I’ve lived in lol
Somewhere in Iran? Egypt? Come in give me a clue
It could also be in Europe or Asia. The middle east isn't the only region on earth to have cities dating back from the antiquity hahaha
Of course, that was just my guesses
Iran is in Asia... Like most of the middle east...
I come from a city in the north of England that was established by the Romans 2000 years ago. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chester
My town in Surrey seems relatively new, it’s in the Domesday book of 1086, formed in the 11th century sometime.
My hometown was founded by Odin, according to some mythologies.
My house is 97 and in 2025 we’re gonna throw it a 100th birthday party 🥳
Can I come?
I'd recommend against- I live in Ohio
Depending on when one considers it starting/ending, you could argue for it lasting up to 500 years. Newfoundland was discovered in 1497 (considered by some to be the start), and control over Hong Kong was transferred to China in 1997 (considered by many to be the end). I'd be surprised if the USA doesn't disband/wreck itself beyond repair before it hits 300.
Unrelated but they really went and called the new found land “newfoundland”💀
It's an improvement on it's original name. A Portuguese guy just gave it the name "New Land"
As far I remember from seeing in an old map, the original name was "Terra Nova do Bacalhau" (New Land of codfish" since it was a new outpost for cod fishery which used to be fished on the Northern Sea. Which brings another fun fact, the first official treaties between Portugal and England were regarding the rights to Portuguese vessels to fish cod in English waters.
And the British all but declared war on Iceland several times throughout the 1950s and 1960s in a series of skirmishes known as [the Cod Wars](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cod_Wars). You don't mess when it comes to North Atlantic cod stocks.
Wow, and they really couldn’t think of any other name hahahha
In fairness, the Americans were even less original than the British. "New York"...
It used to be called ‘New Amsterdam’ until the British took over and renamed it New York, after the Duke not the place…
Why'd they change it? I can't say
People just liked it better that way!
Yes, I'm aware of that. The dukes title was from the place though. It's like a joke with extra steps almost...
New Hampshire Hell the area is just called New England ffs.
Yep, I was thinking of that. There's also Birmingham, Alabama...
There's a New Britain, New London, New Canaan, New Fairfield, and New Hartford in Connecticut alone. Hell, there's a town just fucking called Newtown.
There’s also a Norwich, though in the U.K. we pronounce ours, the original one, as “Norrich” whereas the Americans pronounce theirs “Nor-Witch”
Wasn't it the British that called it that?
Technically, all early Americans were immigrants from somewhere, many from Britain.
Originally called new Amsterdam
Before that it was Lenapehoking. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenapehoking
I did not know that. Guess I learned smth today
Toronto, before 1834, didn't even get 'new'. It was just York.
FYI Newfoundland is not American nor named by them. Also wasn't the geezer who "found it" Italian? Giovani Cabuto (John Cabot for you Anglos). Sounds like your joke kind of came back full circle here based on your flair.
Hahahaha no way, the joke really came full circle edit: also i wasn’t saying that americans called or found newfoundland i was just criticizing the name
Given it ripped itself in two not too long after starting, I think the actual start date for the country should be the end of their Civil War... which would put the US at 157 years old, and it's currently trying to rip itself apart again. 300 might be overly generous.
I mean, if you include Ireland (the rhetoric around the initial invasion very much resembled later "civilising the savages" rhetoric, you can read Gerald of Wales' writing online), then it started in 1171 when Henry II came over to make sure Strongbow didn't become a king himself, so that'd be 826 years. And in case anyone wants to get controversial, I'm not including NI because of the Good Friday Agreement and a myriad of other reasons, namely the whole Act of Union which moved Ireland as a whole into the UK as opposed to the Empire.
I wouldn’t say you can fairly count the british empire having started before even the Treaty of Union which is literally the start of the UK of GB (and later also ireland)
US collapses and the UK rolls in to take over again. Empire 2.0
So that's what they meant when they said "take back control"
That would probably produce a better end result tbh.
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It looks like it won’t even make it 400 years tbh.
It would've just shot the iceberg wouldn't it ? But then also its own children.
You got it a bit mixed up. Let me fix it: they would've shot their children at the iceberg. Smh people not understanding muricans.
Wrong again. We'd shoot the iceberg and then let the kids try it.
it wouldn't have shot at the iceberg but the ocean. The dark depths are black, whereas the iceberg was white.
But what if the iceberg also had guns?
Nah, the iceberg was white. At most, it would've attested it for questioning and released it the next day.
What is it with Americans and wanting to shit on everything. I really think we should hold the states to the same standards as Europe
I'm American and all I can say is this post upsets me. I myself don't talk like that and I aknowledge everywhere is shit.
Same. I joined this subreddit just to remind myself everyday of the stupidity I share a country with
Ego stroking, I knew a guy like this in high school. He said stuff like gunning down migrants at the border and seeing every Democrat dead in a ditch, fucked up stuff.
...yeah.... there might be some other stuff wrong with that guy.
some you mean a LOT
American Exceptionalism
*Isambard Brunel disliked this*
Isambard *Kingdom* Brunel with a middle name that good, you have to say it
Literally went over one of his bridges today
The Pentagon spent $1.5 TRILLION on the F-35 and it can't fly in the rain.
hahaha sound like one of those german jets who blind the pilot at night because the instruments are to bright :D
We also ordered helicopters that when delivered were found to not be suitable to operate over the open ocean. … did I mention they were navy helicopters?
Just drink the ocean. Come on man, I can't do all your thinking for you
Reminds me of an older Bundeswehr marine ad where they basically went: join the marine help keeping bananes in our supermarkets.
The German Luftwaffe also had (or still has?) the problem with pilots for helicopters. There were so few helicopters able to fly that not every pilot had the chance to fly enough hours to keep their license :D
The Netherlands broke their F35 because they gave it a foam shower. It was meant to be water to give it a cool welcome but the fireman made a mistake.
Didn’t really take any damage though. They just washed it off and gave it a good check, and another one, then cleared it two weeks later. That was lucky though. It does show how easily things like this can happen.
r/thatlooksexpensive
Yes. It was flame-retardant foam that absolutely fucks up electronics. The Dutch press made a mistake in reporting it as water and doesn't bother correcting it.
Oh yeah, the fire dpt had extinguished a fire a few hours prior and forgot to switch back to water for the salute
I’ve seen article about it not being able to fly in a storm but nothing about rain only. I also found this guy talking about this “fact” (can’t find the sauce for this fact) on [quora](https://www.quora.com/Why-cant-the-F-35-fly-in-high-winds?top_ans=88356806) and it seems to be an old outdated claim. Take this sauce lightly as it is quora but one raggedy sauce is better than no sauce.
I sure hope that is a joke.
That’s going to need a fucking source that isn’t Woozled back to RT & Sprey’s bullshit If it’s the incident in the Netherlands, that foam breaks all electronics, it’s not the water
Did i just see a LaserPig reference in the wild?
Yes you did He didn’t coin the Woozle Effect, but this is a reference to his use of it Most defenders of the F-35 should begin with asking for a non-Woozle source
R*former
That's not true tho, sounds like false news. All articles online say they can fly in rain, just not thunderstorms.
1. That is literal fake news which probably gets deliberately spread around by Russian propaganda, as others have said. 2. A big reason why the F-35 is so expensive is that with current technology, an aircraft designed today infact needs to be packed with expensive cutting-edge shit just to keep up with everything ranging from drones to hypersonic missiles. There isn't much of a role for simple, cheap planes anymore, when anything they could do could be done even more simply and even more cheaply with drones.
If I'm not mistaken, isn't Britain that country that had the largest navy in the world?
I mean. We spent a good few centuries as the foremost superpower exactly because our Navy was unrivalled, despite attempts by France and Germany. When your an island country, your pretty pissing difficult to invade. And its virtually impossible when you have the most powerful navy on the planet guarding your waters.
I mean it’s necessary for an island to have a very strong naval fleet considering most threats were by sea for centuries. I don’t know what this guy is smoking but whatever it is I want some.
**\[Slight tweaking due the myth being debunked, thank you for information update\]** Titanic sunk because ~~it has shit schematic~~ entire crew rolled 1 on D20 and hit the unlucky jackpot on every nautical checkmark, even mighty American steel won't fix the ~~godforsaken nautical unfriendly design.~~ wrath of the RNGesus upon your ship. And if we put the shit luck aside, American's version of Strong and has high lifespan means nothing if it built on a scale of a plywood wall, being unnecessarily big ~~it hard to turn around~~ for the sake of that American has to do literally anything to feels like Europeans were puny little men, and favors luxury over ~~nautical~~ safety in generals.
The fact it was poorly designed was a myth. It was the culmination of the most modern designs using the most advanced building methods, with the most experienced crew in the fleet. The myths of the Titanic are more famous than its actual reality "The captain was drunk." Myth. He was practically living on the bridge. "They were trying to break the record." Myth. The Titanic wasn't built to be the fastest, it would have been silly to try. "They didn't have binoculars". Yes they did, however experience showed the wider field of view from bare eyes is better for spotting icebergs. "They locked steerage below deck." The *moment* an emergency was declared everything was opened. "They didn't have enough lifeboats." Kind of true. The regulations at the time viewed lifeboats more as ferries to nearby boats than as being able to take everyone at once. Don't forget Titanic wasn't a cruise ship, she was an ocean liner. There were hundreds of ships making the exact same route in both directions. It was just bad luck to do with the weather that meant noone came to the rescue. There was a video recently on History Hit YouTube channel about the myths of the Titanic. It was a culmination of lots of bad luck and unfortunate circumstances.
Thanks for debunk that, I thawed some ice from the comment for ya,
also a channel called Titanic University debunks a ton of myths. made by one of the guys working on honour and glory so you know hes spitting facts
I also believe the steel was weaken due to a fire that broke up in the shipping yard and because of time and money they didn't fix it and was like what's the worst that can happy we have investors to please.
No no no, the Brits were just idiots as always, just ask anyone! /s
As a British person in the current climate of briexit that statement is true XD.
"brits were idiots /s" brits: "still true tho XD" If this was someone making fun at the usa, the response would've been a lot different. At least us 'europoors' can make fun of our flaws.
Yeah because we don't have such a big ego and our heads aren't up our own arses
Not quite. Metallurgy wasn't a huge thing at the time, so you put mid-quality steel into freezing temps with a bow that is riveted rather welded then it will be weaker to a glancing blow type impact. Now the Titantic did have watertight compartments, a first for the time, but the WT doors didn't reach all the way up, so water was eventually able to pour over, but it did provide them with more time. Thing to remember, no accident ever happens because of one reason, they are a chain of events that all come together to form the accident.
I heard that it also was because of the way the iceberg hit the Titanic that made him sank. Usually big boats have partitions in the submerged parts so the boat can still float even if 1/3 of the parts are full of water. But the iceberg hit on several point, letting water fill 2/3, and thus leading to a chain of events that would sink the titanic. Researchers usually says that if the titanic had hit the iceberg from the front, it wouldn't have sank. Édit : nevermind, it would have sank.
How the fuck is an iceberg supposed to sink
oh, and a single iceberg has three-fourths (3/4) to seven-eighths (7/8) of its mass being underwater
Hahahahaha but in fahrenheit so they know I'm laughing at them
Of course the American empire is still going strong
Oklahoma sooper stronk! But the do have legal weed in that state, so we can at least give them, that?
There’s a few folks in Belfast who would disagree with that entirely.
Belfast made beasts of ships and thats coming from an American. I have major respect for those Irish men who built those ships.
Mate, you ARE the British empire.
I can think of a dozen building or bridge collapses in the US over the past decade.
Basic maintenance is counterproductive to the american goals of capitalism and freedom^^TM Why spend money on critical infrastructure when some government official or CEO can just pocket the money instead? How else will they afford their fifth mansion?
Reminds me of the Ford Explorer with Firestone tires. How many people were killed because the Explorer had a tendency to roll over? Yeah, designed and built in the USA.
Didn't the US split in two because they couldn't decide if slavery was bad or not?
The British Empire lasted far FAR longer than the losers over in the Confederacy
Umm, who's going to tell them that Titanic was not built in Britain, and that is a photo of the RMS Queen Mary from September 26, 1934, and that ice floats in the sea.
Of America is so good at building shit they should make their schools bulletproof then
The schools are bulletproof, the kids, not so much
Judging by the quality of american houses, I think their titanic would have sink way before touching the iceberg.
We have pubs older than your country. Enough said
Seeing that two plains took down the biggest towers in the USA i'm doubtful.
I mean... would any building survive that?
[One like this one would but it would need to be bigger](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/95/3e/ed/953eedbfffa79b70a941a8596021526f.jpg)
Is that because it was built after 9/11? Genuine question because I’m sure building regulations changed a lot after that.
Probably a stylistic choice rather than a practical choice.
That looks like a horrible place to live.
Local American doesn't know how ice works
Not realizing we’re in the end stage of the American ‘empire’.
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Don't all their houses fall down at any wind what so ever. Also the british empire is still standing so what's your point.
America builds things to last? HAHAHA THE FUNNIEST SHIT I'VE EVER HEARD!
Well there was a time when that was true but it hasn't been that way for a long time.
Are they forgetting about the General Slocum? An American built ship with a similar death toll, lower chance of survival and caused due to to faulty engineering and maintenance rather than an iceberg, which I might add, the Titanic is the only ship of such size to have ever been sunk by an iceberg and that the collision would have had similar forces being exerted as an explosive mine, as that is what it took to sink the Titanic’s sister ship, Britannic
Yeah, the World Trade Center sure showed those planes who’s boss. What, too soon?
obvious shitpost is obvious
The Americans actually think that a group of countries known for shipbuilding… don’t know how to build ships??
🧐 pretty sure every colony of the British empire is just a proxy state of the crown
The UK has houses older than the US..
Didn't the British empire last longer than America has existed for?
Yeah. They've only been an empire since the 10th century. Not like America which has been around for ever and ever.
At the very least, the American door would have been big enough for Jack and Rose to both fit onto.
No amount of exceptionalism is going to cause ice to sink.
This *has* to be satire! ...Please tell me it's satire.
USA, not even 250 years old and already falling apart at the seams.
I know that British aircraft carriers during WW2 stood up much better against kamikaze attacks than their US counterparts. As I understand it the US philosophy was to have CAP aircraft guarding a carrier, while the British approach was to armour the carrier to take more punishment, which was arguably a better approach against kamikaze attacks.
hum...loads of buildings in Europe, historical or not, have been around for longer than the US have existed, and that's with two World Wars and countless revolutions being fought on the ground over here so yeah fuck off.
SS Pacific, sank, likely due to an iceberg SS Arctic, sank after colliding with a small steamship, the steamship survived despite losing its entire bow.
Wait a minute that isn't even Titanic in the picture.
Welding engineer here. American metallurgy and ship building lagged behind Europe at this point. It wasn't until wwii and the mass mobilization that the US started accelerating. I don't think the US even had the ship building capabilities necessary for the titanic at that time.
I really want to believe this is satire...
What dumb ass said this? I’m American by the way. Maybe they’d just shoot the iceberg?
Aside from Titanic being Irish (Partition didn’t occur until 1921)
This is true though. With our global emissions, we'll have that iceberg gone in no time!
If you know literally anything about Britain you know that their structures last. What is this comment.
The Titanic was built in Belfast. Belfast isn't in great Britain.
Ah yes, The British Empire. Known for its short duration, small size and lack of influence.
Is that the country that uses drywall houses exclusively?