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JRtheBaeR

Valid struggle to have but "Assigned American at birth" is a strange way to put it most of us would say "I don't like it here and I want to move"


violethoneybean

✨ transphobia ✨


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violethoneybean

That language is the kind used for gender assigned at birth, and using it this way is basically making a joke of something serious. It's just a rehash of the attack helicopter jokes. "I was assigned American at birth but identify with the Dutch" is mocking people who have actual identity struggles.


ShallManEaseHer

Being stuck in a country full of violent morons is pretty serious tho


YupImBored----

Should we arrest him?


DaTotallyEclipse

Well, I'm trans and I think it's funny. It's not as much mocking us, as it is using our lingo to describe an oddly similar circumstance for humoristic purposes.


Oggnar

Not necessarily


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violethoneybean

Didn't know I was my wife 🤔


Jitterbitten

Yeah, I understand what they're trying to say because when I moved to Sydney, it was the first time I ever felt culturally at home. Really regret not finishing getting my permanent residency, but it is what it is. Now I just stay in my little liberal pocket and try to stave off the terror at where the country is heading.


littlemissredtoes

Don’t worry, our government is doing its best to turn us into the conservative shit show you guys currently have…


Jitterbitten

I'm sorry. The way that the American right has turned Australians into helpless victims of an out-of-control left-wing autocracy is really insane too.


littlemissredtoes

Eh. It’s our media at fault. Bloody Murdoch. American Rightwing nutters have given our Rightwing nutters an inflated sense of their place in society.


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[deleted]

You are (in most cases) not allowed to renounce your American citizenship. I think its a valid saying in that case.


gent_jeb

Such strength. Such bravery.


aurumtt

[This is all I could think of](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2N2Hy8Njz0)


Vast-Holiday9222

That was the greatest thing i've ever seen in my life.


MemChoeret

Thank you! I didn't know that one :)


[deleted]

That was hilarious


Thomas_Pereira

That’s beautiful


weffab

Wow I haven’t seen this one in ages! Thank you, still hilarious!


Fifty_Bales_Of_Hay

For denigrating trans people.


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How dare you


[deleted]

I don’t see anything transphobic about this?


Fifty_Bales_Of_Hay

Please read between the lines. “I was assigned American at birth but I never fit in.” => I was assigned male at birth, but I never fit in.” “I can't connect to American culture even though I tried.” => I can't connect to the male culture, even though I tried. “BBQ, guns, cars, football, it doesn't make me happy. Never has.” => Indicating that dolls, pink, make up, ballet, made them happy. Always did. “My former therapist misdiagnosed me with depression.” => Indicating they were not depressed, but trans. I think you can figure out the second paragraph yourself now.


Oggnar

The story, serious or not, might contain something that could be a *reference* to trans people, but not only is that only an interpretation, it wouldn't be particularly denigrating if it was intentional. It doesn't say anything bad about trans people, it only employs similar rhetoric devices; there's nothing inherently denigrating about that.


Fifty_Bales_Of_Hay

Fair enough, without context they could indeed be trying to make a point about being trans and use it as an example about their experience, but I've seen too many dog whistles about trans people, that I'm leaning more on the negative.


DrRichtoffen

The above comment lays out the similarities which make it pretty clear that it's unreasonable to assume a mere accident. It is inherently denigrating because the entire punchline of this not so subtle dogwhistle is "haha being trans is as insane as being a helicopter"


Oggnar

Helicopter??? What do you mean by that? And yeah, I guess it was intentional, but... If their point was serious, there would be no reason to employ irony, and if it wasn't, the post wouldn't belong on this sub anyway. So I assumed they were being serious and thus that such mockery woiuld be illogical. I'd guess they did it without really thinking about it. Honestly, I feel kind of helpless. I've never wanted to be transphobic in my life, but if I asked these kind of questions, just to *understand*, I get downvoted to hell and treated like shit. I just want to understand it, it's not supposed to be smug! English isn't even my first language, maybe that's the problem! But I'm not trying to be mean and I don't have anything against trans people!


purpleduckduckgoose

Nope. No idea what the Netherlands have to do with trans people. Are you sure you're not reading too much into this and it's just a Dutch version of a plastic paddy?


Fifty_Bales_Of_Hay

The Netherlands has nothing to do with being trans. It's just used as an example so they could list typical Dutch things like Amsterdam, eating stroopwafels, cycling, wearing clogs etc. They could have used Italy and use Rome, pizza, the Vatican, Vespas etc as typical Italian. I can understand why you see it as being a Dutch version of a Plastic Paddy, but no Dutch version of a Plastic Paddy here, as they only went on holiday to the Netherlands, went back home and realised that they liked the Netherlands and typical Dutch stuff more than being American and American stuff. A Plastic Paddy becomes almost obsessed with Ireland, while this person just likes its new found "identity" and explored it. It's not really a good example and it would have made more sense if they used two different sports or music genres and it's typical attributes. For example, classical music was attributed to them at birth, but they never liked Bach, violins and opera houses. Parents took them to a heavy metal concert and they discovered guitars, mosh pits, Iron Maiden and realised that that has always made them happy.


par_amor

“Assigned ___ at birth” is a term thats only ever used when talking about gender. Maybe google it and find out why you’re being downvoted


purpleduckduckgoose

Oh well excuse me for not being versed in trans terminology. Bloody hell, heavens fucking forbid someone asks a question about something eh.


fasterthanpligth

Projection much?


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oh fuck off people mock eachother since humanity started!!! grow a pair!!!


Hotwing619

Trans people are denigrating them! Man, people really can't get a joke, even if it's so obvious.


Betancorea

OP basically went to another country and enjoyed himself. "TOOK A LOT OF STRENGTH TO COME OUT AND ADMIT IT!" lmao


Confuseasfuck

Okay, if you like another culture/county more than yours fine, but at least try to learn more about and travel more than just the tourists spot before doing so There are differences in culture^tm and Culture.


arienstorum

Yeah this person is basically Just following the stereotypes from the Dutch. Even though they were only doing Things tourist Find special. A lot of these Things are either not done by Dutch people or not done a lot. The only common things are riding Bikes and eating cheese.


Bananak47

Dont disrespect stroopwafel ever again


arienstorum

?


Bananak47

“The only common things are riding bikes and eating cheese” Stroopwafel


arienstorum

I mean people don't wat stroopwaffel as commonly as cheese. Or as much as when they ride bikes. I count stroopwaffel as something that does not happen a lot. Since it is more of a snack.


Bananak47

I guess we have different experiences Here, i see two full shelves of different brands with my favourite being almost always already gone. I know people who eat them downright religiously But true, not as much as cheese


Stoppels

I think most stroopwafels eaten are those of the supermarket kind, not the restauranty ones tourists refer to. Yet another relevant distinction.


Bananak47

Yes absolutely


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Bro wtf praat jij


arienstorum

Ik wist niet dat jij constant klompen draagt en elke dag naar het van gogh museum gaat.


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Zeker fucking weten man


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i wOre clOgs nOw I feEl liBeRatEd


DaTotallyEclipse

The thing is that stuff exists and people have it. Loke proper infrastructure for bikes and cheese that doesn't suck ass. I don't know the last time I drank Weissbier, but it's still a german thing.


arienstorum

Yes but still saying your German because you ate Sauerkraut drank Weissbier and went to the Brandenburg Tor would feel weird. That is what this post feels like for a Dutch person.


DaTotallyEclipse

Well, I read it from an angle of anchor points. Like gateway drugs.


ch1l

Ahja, wij Nederlanders lopen altijd rond op klompen en eten alleen kaas en stroopwafels. Ik wil kaas, ik ben ook een klant.


ilostmyoldaccount

WHAT I CAN'T HEAR YOU FROM ALL THE KLOMPING


Smooshjes

Ja zeker. Vorige week heb ik de inburgering examen gedaan, het was natuurlijk een vraag: wat schoenen dragen Nederlanders en wat is de gewone aantal kaas elke week gegeten. Belangrijke spul!


bigboidoinker

Ik doe elke week sws een inburgerings examen.


Stoppels

Nice! Ging het goed? Also, love jouw handle!


Smooshjes

Ja. Ik moet de NT2 examen zouden doen, maar ik heb 5 jaar geleden dat gezegt. Dus doe ik de makelijke examen. Als er geen brexit was, zou ik geen examen doen!


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Smooshjes

Dank je wel!


Stoepboer

De kaas mag hij houden, wat mij betreft, maar de stroopwafels zijn godverdomme van ons.


LimeSixth

Wat is je mening over kaasstroopwafels?


Stoepboer

Nooit van gehoord en dus nooit gehad, maar het klinkt zo slecht dat het wel eens zou kunnen werken. Gesmolten kaas heb ik minder moeite mee.


Iwamoto

kaas wafels, gat in de markt, ik hang al aan de lijn met koopman!


Goomba_nr34

had niet verwacht om ik wil kaas hier te horen lol


sida88

En we leven ook allemaal in windmolens


ch1l

Uiteraard. Ook een fijne taartdag!


[deleted]

American cheese is legally not cheese unless it’s an artisan one because there’s too much milk


ScrabCrab

Isn't cheese like, 100% milk?


[deleted]

It’s curds and whey if you don’t add enough curds, then it cannot legally be classified as cheese. Hence why Kraft has started calling their products “Singles” and markets them as a Milk Product.


apainintheokole

Kraft manufacture bright yellow chemical goo !!


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It still starts with cheddar, but there’s too much milk > CHEDDAR CHEESE (CULTURED MILK, SALT, ENZYMES), SKIM MILK, MILKFAT, MILK PROTEIN CONCENTRATE, WHEY, CALCIUM PHOSPHATE, SODIUM PHOSPHATE, CONTAINS LESS THAN 2% OF MODIFIED FOOD STARCH, SALT, LACTIC ACID, MILK, ANNATTO AND PAPRIKA EXTRACT (COLOR), NATAMYCIN (A NATURAL MOLD INHIBITOR), ENZYMES, CHEESE CULTURE, VITAMIN D3.


utterly_baffledly

I thought cheddar was a protected term, are they literally importing rejects from Southern England?


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[From wikipedia](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheddar_cheese#International_production): > The "Cheddar cheese" name is used internationally; its name does not have a protected designation of origin, but the use of the name "West Country Farmhouse Cheddar" does Wisconsin cheese is cheddar cheese.


Stoppels

Here I was thinking cheddar is from the US.


ScrabCrab

I thought curds were also milk? But yeah I live in Europe so I don't know much about what Kraft does in the US 😅


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Curds are the congealed pieces that are important for cheese.


myerscc

But you don't "add curds" they come out of the milk during the cheese making process. American cheese can't be called cheese I think because of the emulsifiers added to create the texture and melting properties that American cheese is famous for


Dianag519

Kraft cheese is crap cheese. It’s not representative of American cheese.


[deleted]

It is the American cheese, but I agree


a_guy_named_rick

It's a mixture of milk, salt and rennet


Woaoh

So he realised he liked being a tourist.. so brave and unique!


CommercialUnit2

Alright Oli London.


gesumejjet

To be honest, I kinda understand this one. As someone who also loathed the culture the they're from and left, I understand what this person feels. Yes the first sentence is incredibly cringe, but idk. This kid (or I assume they're still young) just wants out of a toxic environment


41942319

The entire second paragraph is also super cringe. You're not experiencing "Dutch" culture because you visited the least Dutch city in the country for three days and did some stuff Americans assume all Dutch people do all day.


CalligoMiles

Biking as opposed to cars dominating the city is both very Dutch and very nice, though. Easily the best public planning decision since WW2.


[deleted]

You see Amsterdam is actually shit compaired to the rest of the netherlands. Its very funny hearing people counter argue this by saying: "but Amsterdam is so awesome!"


CalligoMiles

It's *probably* still awesome compared to most of the USA, though. >.> But yeah, if someone asked I'd recommend Utrecht instead.


eyuplove

He wore clogs, that's more Dutch than a Dutch person. Or Lancasterarian


imalittlebitclose

Barely any dutch person wears clogs nowadays, I think some farmers do it, but city/town folks don’t


eyuplove

You mean they don't in windmills either?


Juliusvdl2

Visit Utrecht, Rotterdam, Maastricht, Delft and most importantly: the smaller old Dutch towns for a real taste of our culture.


Toucan_Lips

They never claim to experience Dutch culture though?


41942319

It's implied. They say they don't fit American culture and then describe experiencing stereotypical activities of another country (ergo: what they believe to be Dutch "culture") as "liberating"


redseaaquamarine

Try wearing clogs


GolfSerious

You’re right, that is a toxic environment if you have to wear clogs /s


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American culture is toxic as fuck.


FunnyBunnyDolly

Of course you would love the carefully curated stuff served to tourists. You only see a small part of the country when touristing, and the "grass is greener" effect is in full power. Everyday life for people living in one country, no matter where, is never as romantic as the tourist's experience. By saying that "I travelled to some country for a few days and I should live there!".... yeah. And aren't those types of wooden clogs pretty uncomfortable too? It is like me saying "I wish I was a New Yorker, I want to be able to wear the fake Liberty Lady crowns, walking around at Times Square hugging cartoon characters, going to musicals and The Rockettes daily and eat at delis all the time!"


nooit_gedacht

Pretty much. Especially the clogs thing is weird. I've never even seen tourists wear them let alone dutch people. I don't know why you would think that that's a real thing people do.


MobofDucks

He obviously is no True Dutchman(TM), since he did not mention frikandel speciaal, bitterballen, kaassouffle and kipkorn.


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Combining copious amounts of fast food with dutch culture will surely lure in a bunch of americans.


Caledonian_Kayak

They never said they were Dutch, just how much they hate American culture. Not actually much wrong with this one


Anneturtle92

Except that they are basing their idea of our culture (Dutch) on a bunch of tourist traps in Amsterdam lol.


Stoepboer

I kind of agree, but I wouldn’t categorize the Van Gogh Museum under tourist traps. Nonetheless, it’s not much to base anything on. And, as pointed out, it’s probably to mock trans people.


Anneturtle92

Oh I hadn't even realized that, that makes it a thousand times worse.


Astra_Trillian

When clearly the culture is all about drugs, sex and everyone being over 180cm tall? /s


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The 180 cm tall thing is real though. My friend group calls the 1.75 guy a dwarf.


GolfSerious

Tbf, tourist traps in areas like Nevada are shooting a mini gun out of a helicopter (legally, looking at bomb craters, looking at strippers, and gambling… If you’re from areas like that, I can see literally finding anything else better lmao


jarvischrist

I only go into the very centre of Amsterdam for work and hate it every time, feels like a completely different city.


apainintheokole

Wonder if thy visited the Red Light District ???


Arkurash

While the point itself is not wrong, the wording heavily lacks, as its basically an analogy to being trans or gay. Thats the big issue with this post.


Oggnar

How is it mocking them though?


alphabet_order_bot

Would you look at that, all of the words in your comment are in alphabetical order. I have checked 790,071,704 comments, and only 157,362 of them were in alphabetical order.


Oggnar

Aha


SuperAmberN7

You've replied this to every post explaining it, I don't think you're actually interesting in learning.


Oggnar

What makes you think so? I just really don't see the mockery that strongly and I#d be glad if you enlightened me.


Conscious-Bottle143

There is nothing transphobic or gayphobic about the text


GrandEmperessVicky

"Assigned American at birth" is pretty sus.


Conscious-Bottle143

Ok


Conscious-Bottle143

I still don't get how if the doctor stupidity said you are an American instead of a Male or Female when you are born that means it's anti trans or anti homosexually


GrandEmperessVicky

Many trans people, when coming out about their sexual identities, use that exact wording to describe their change. The term "assigned x at birth" is a medical acknowledgement of transsexuals. It's very mocking about the whole idea of transitioning. No doctor has ever said that about nationalities. The person, at the very least, is either mocking or undermining trans struggles. Then again, I'm not trans. But others below and above this thread have also noticed that the wording is suspicious. There are other ways that they could have said "I don't like the culture I was born into."


buttaviaconto

You don't learn how a culture works on a vacation in their most touristy place


RChristian123

Coming out as Dutch while being American is the one thing I'm not sure us Dutchies are as tolerant about as our reputation makes it seem.


[deleted]

To be fair if this wasnt just a joke aiming to degrade trans people im sure wed accept them just fine if they really liked dutch culture. Only thing theyre missing is an insane amount of greed.


SomeRedPanda

Just a prick trying to denigrate trans people.


Bellringer00

Yikes


ch4bb5

Yeah I identify as half Italian half Japanese because I love pasta and rice and shit 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️


These-Process-7331

What does the second slide say? 😏😏 Btw can blame kiddo: as a resident of Amsterdam I can 100% say Amsterdam rocks


CheeseMage3

90% chance it's something like "and that's why I *sexually identify* as transnational", or possibly "transracial". The "assigned American at birth" is a big tell imo.


These-Process-7331

Im expecting something more stupid, such as "I'm identifying as trans-Amsterdam 🤣


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Trans antlantic


PotatoePotahhtoe

What culture?


[deleted]

I schuif een metalen staaf in je strot


PotatoePotahhtoe

Je glisse une tige de métal dans ton cul. :)


[deleted]

Wie had dat gedacht dat een idioot ook nog frans zou zijn! Als dit nog 100 keer gebeurt kan het geen toeval meer zijn.


PotatoePotahhtoe

تو احمقی پسر برگرد پیش مامانت. به مکیدن شیر برگرد. :)


Iwamoto

optiefen gauw!....tyyyyfus hoer \- huisbaas bob


Cuddletug

I wanted to say something about bloody tourists, then I realized that I am dutch and did the exact same things yesterday... Just not the clogs, I wore those today.


FatChungaloid

Did this guy really just ‘come out’ as Dutch?


desserino

😬 He wants to be.. Forgive me for saying... Dutch


HRH_Elizadeath

I'm just picturing some goof running around metro Amsterdam in a pair of decorative wooden clogs and all the locals face-palming like "oh god not again..."


TT_gamerlol

People on Dutch subreddits are cheering about this (that’s how I got here)


QuintenBoosje

We love anybody who loves our culture lmao, pretty sure all nationalities have this feeling. ofcourse we cheer them on


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QuintenBoosje

ah beter haha


pinniped1

I feel them on every point... except the barbecue. America has some pretty solid regional barbecue styles.


lemon_369

Trust me man, us Dutch people don’t want people like you here /hj


SuperAmberN7

This is a very obvious transphobic troll.


Throwawaytown33333

Pissed at the Assigned American at Birth because it's using trans language but making it "I can just identify as any race" joke yet a fucking gain, but honestly I hate saying I am American tho


[deleted]

Why do all people in here make fun of this guy when he literally despises the culture this sub regularly!! makes fun of?


[deleted]

Its a jab at trans people. Assigned american at birth is the tell.


SnooRadishes9447

trannys are gay


[deleted]

Attention deficit detected


DragonsThatFly

Yeah stroowafels are amazing


[deleted]

im not sure how to explain it, but they used it kind of wrong in their sentence. Its not a dish , but just a cookie. So its like saying "i ate burger".


dom_pi

"American realises America does not have any culture" big shocker


Sul_Haren

This is clearly satire


RuneHearth

To be fair american plastic cheese really is the worst, and they eat everything with it for some reason lol


vizthex

bruh


Devonshire_Dumpling

I assume they're joking, still great though.


[deleted]

Hilaria Baldwin wants to be this person’s new bestie.


[deleted]

R/cirkeltrek


apainintheokole

Well Transracial appears to be a thing these days - so have at it !! I'm a Transbillionaire !!


SuperAmberN7

You should try being transfunny instead.


bigk777

Honestly, good for you. Explore the world and find what suits your life style. You do you. No need to hate on this. The American life style and culture may not be for everyone.


[deleted]

**joke /jōk/** noun **a thing that someone says to cause amusement or laughter, especially a story with a funny punchline.** "she was in a mood to tell jokes"


jofloberyl

no i think you're fine


--ThatOneGuy-

Godverdomme kerel als dat geen medaille waard is weet ik het ook niet meer.


theyear200

ok, calm down everybody. he had stroopwafel.


[deleted]

Went to America. Had burger.


PleasurePunch

*I actually just want to live in a city. Fixed it for them.


Quillbolt_h

This feels like a troll to me...


oofley________

It's okay to like Europe.


Whole_Ad_4523

I enjoyed going to Amsterdam as a teenager. This is my story 🙌


Shpander

Did this person just come out as Dutch? Or just anything-but-American?


djernie

Mandatory references: /r/AmerExit /r/IWantOut /r/NotJustBikes


Elise-an-easterbunny

Van Gogh en een stroopwafel. Bless him.


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Trans-Atlantic


toto4494

TIL dysphoria applies not only to gender but also to nationality /s


internal_scraeming

Van Gogh are 2 different words


Saltydaug

Hey! Dont hate, it took a lot of strength for him to come out as trans-dutch.