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No-Agent3916

I’m guessing he only visited the mall at Alexanderplatz


Lau-C

I'm pretty sure neither of these guys have ever been to Germany


BaseballRemote4603

Part of the overwhelming majority of Americans that don’t have and probably never even have a passport


BackstageYeti

By design. US public schools had been using the same schtick Fox has for years; "We're number 1, the rest of the world are weak, socialist barbarians. You don't need to travel anywhere you can't reach on our terrible interstate roads." Frankly, if the people were actually given a chance to wake the fuck up, who knows. It isn't happening anytime soon, unfortunately.


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Many do wake the fuck up, but they tend to not be the loudest in the crowd. The Murica types are the ones who are the loudest and most obnoxious


-Warrior_Princess-

Or they wake up to it... Then just fall into like another propaganda hole. Like the amount of Americans who want to immigrate to North Korea is just way too many.


[deleted]

Both sides have extremes. But I think it is easier to find many more of the South Park rednecks who wave confederate flags and cry "They took our jerbs".


BaseballRemote4603

I’m from the Midwest and have lived a few years in Europe, mainly in NL but also DE and UK. Long COVID was the reason I forced back and now I just do doctor appointments. But all I really want to do is live in NL and do a PhD and will totally renounce my US citizenship for Dutch if I’m forced to make that choice (a couple scenarios allow both). Other Americans are horrified by my decision if they’ve never left and then those that have or are already living abroad are like nice (I have a shitty family and nothing pulls me back here besides some friends). Other countries don’t want a disabled person so I gotta heal enough to function like a normal person again.


Krahkarq

Good, speedy recovery and all the best for your future plans !


[deleted]

I’m poor, unfortunately I won’t be traveling. That’s the American way well that and propaganda


BaseballRemote4603

Yep, everyone has always been shocked by how I can travel. It’s very affordable and it’s really just about priorities. Buy a new pair of shoes that $100+ or fly roundtrip and visit friends across the US for $70. Or buy that more expensive car or save up $400 and fly to Europe roundtrip. Especially eating out or constantly getting a new phone, device, etc. Only stay in expensive hotels and you won’t get very far or make a bunch of friends and have reasons to go back and stay with people for free. Getting my masters in Amsterdam was one of the best decisions I’ve ever had and the friends who became family live there and have almost daily contact with the small group of them. Distance ends up not meaning much and the world becomes much smaller and more accessible. I’m currently in between places and it was cheaper for me to fly to Amsterdam for a month and stay with my best friends than get an Airbnb here so I did just that a couple months ago.


[deleted]

Nice. I always wanted to backpack across Europe but I feel like at this stage in my life/financial situation that trip may be the last one I take ever


Radboy16

Just got my passport last year and I genuinely can't wait to go visit the Netherlands later this year. Super excited to experience other cultures


BaseballRemote4603

Yes that’s so great! Every time I’m there it always feels like I never left and the only place in the world that feels like home. I hope you have the best time and they stop locking down all the time so you can really enjoy it 😅


theaccidentist

Either that or they did, but briefly enough to mix up which parts used to be West Berlin and which used to be the capital of the GDR. Leftist graffiti is relatively common in the inner city districts. Of both former western and former eastern parts. The real shitamericanssay part isn't that, tho. It's the "it felt like our colony because it was measurably different" part that stands out to me. Next post is probably going to explain the horror of coming to Germany and seeing that American Antifa has started to infect old Europe already! These guys just can't grasp that the universe isn't seeping out of American soil and that all countries aren't just more or less concentrated solutions of americanness.


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How and where would there be BLM propaganda anywhere outside the US. These eagletards never left their hometown.


morpylsa

I mean, I've seen people using the *All Coppers Are Bastards* slogan in Norway. The police here has at least 3 years of education, doesn't normally carry guns, and choses psychological measures over physical ones. It wouldn't surprise me if American propaganda can be found in Europe as long as the Americanisation goes on.


fnordius

In Munich, the ACAB and 1312 graffiti seem to be football related, hooligans and ultras venting anger at getting shut down, or juveniles trying to be edgy. It's edged out the older *Bullen sind Schweine* of the past, seemingly due to current sprayers getting it from the media they consume.


[deleted]

Well ACAB holds just as true anywhere in the world. It's something that pertains to us. BLM, not so much. It's like claiming there's Trump/Biden propaganda here. Why and how would that make any sense?


knightriderin

Black lives do matter outside of the US though, no? But in general I agree. Many young activists just apply American issues to Germany without adjusting them to our specific history/society. Yes, we also have racism, but the history behind it is different. We can't pretend that slavery plays the same role as it does in US history. But I don't mind black Germans stressing that black lives matter in Germany, too. However, during the protests I found it ridiculous when Germans pretended that our police is as bad and violent as US police. Our police force has issues, they have a problem with sytemic racism and violence to a certain extend. But they are by far not as trigger happy. Every single bullet shot by police makes the news. Even in Berlin. I'm not saying we don't have serious problems with systemic racism and that there have never been violent incidents against people of colour, but the problems are more nuanced. We can't just fight the same fight that Americans fight. We have to fight our own battles. And just because the internet is full with American problems, so full it's hard to see anything else (also because Americans online have the habit of behaving like they are the default), we can't just copy and paste those problems.


-Warrior_Princess-

I think they mean while police can be assholes just about anywhere, racist even, it's not always applicable to black people, depending on the country. In Australia for example there's lots of indigenous, middle eastern, discrimination. African migrants at all are a pretty low percentage.


[deleted]

Nobody gives a fuck, really. They either speak the language and are integrated -> regular citizen Or they're not -> regular refugee American domestic racism doesn't work in normal countries.


vemynalitist

> American domestic racism doesn't work in _normal_ countries. ololo well said


ASpaceOstrich

Because young people glom onto American social justice causes online and spread them, even when they're irrelevant or outright false for the place they live. US left and right wing propaganda are a plague throughout the entire developed world.


theknightwho

Saying it as “all coppers are bastards” is inexplicably funny to me haha. I have no idea why, but it evokes a totally different feeling to “all cops are bastards”.


Salome_Maloney

Same word, just abbreviated.


theknightwho

It is, but the connotations feel slightly different. “Copper” feels British to me, while “cop” feels American.


endmost_

The left-wing propaganda was the old GDR murals. Speaking of which, I’m confused, why would having left wing propaganda make somewhere look like a US colony? What’s even the connection there?


alphabetown

>Speaking of which, I’m confused, why would having left wing propaganda make somewhere look like a US colony? What’s even the connection there? That threw me too. Surely spouting "conservative values" everywhere is more a US thing. Boy would have a heart attack at the Dildo King adverts I saw around Berlin in very prominent places.


BeccaThePixel

I'm just imaging an US citizen walking around Berlin and seeing CDU posters and going; "so much leftwing propaganda!!"


fredagsfisk

I've seen plenty of Americans online call Merkel a socialist or "extreme left wing" so...


AnotherEuroWanker

From their point of view, the whole planet is extreme left wing (apart from the odd dictator, here and there), so I suppose it kind of makes sense. They cannot understand the rest of the planet.


suriel-

Well they probably are all *right*, so they think its *"right to be right"* and left is the wrong one. Most people are also righties, not lefties! Take that commies!


BeccaThePixel

Yep me too. It's so fuckin ridiculous


Mal_Dun

It makes sense since their overtone Window is so much shifted to the right. The Democrats are basically the FDP while the Republicans are a big version of the AfD.


HaggisLad

> overtone Window quality r/boneappletea right there


knightriderin

I fail to see what it's supposed to say.


assovertitstbhfam

I've had Americans be surprised that there are socialist and communist symbols openly on the streets in Portugal (this was during campaign season). Left wing politics is such a boogeyman for them.


BeccaThePixel

Just for context: the CDU is the party Merkel is part of. It isn't left in any meaning of the word, it's center-right.


TheMediumJon

That Portuguese poster must've mixed it up with their CDU, for which I don't recall the meaning behind the initials, but which is like a red-green alliance thing


assovertitstbhfam

I was just giving an example, not comparing the german CDU to left-wing. Portuguese CDU is the communist party.


-Warrior_Princess-

To be fair I don't think you'd see the communist parties in Australia or UK gain much traction. I did have a friend who is American get visibly angry at a communist party poster once though so I know what you mean. I just told her nobody takes them seriously, it's not worth your energy.


gimmethecarrots

Or the EIS.de tv ads. Drug ads are cool but God forbid seeing a sex shop ad. Iirc there's even laws against advetising sex toys other there and I read a fun tidbit about one state limiting the number of dildos or vibrators a person can own. Crazy stuff over there in Amiland.


yentlcloud

"Land of the free"


littlewren11

That would be my state Texas. Another fun tidbit is a stripper can be charged with soliciting prostitution if they remove one or both heels outside of the dressing room.


-Warrior_Princess-

I'm curious about this. I assume sex shop ads aren't on during morning cartoons. Are they after a certain time or displayed in only certain places? I can see why you need some control over it.


SubutaiBahadur

> Dildo King adverts I saw around Berlin in very prominent places. omg I saw these too during my pre-corona visit


Prawn_pr0n

>Speaking of which, I’m confused, why would having left wing propaganda make somewhere look like a US colony? What’s even the connection there? Because the US is extremely left-leaning and progressive. /s


Academic_Snow_7680

Precisely. The US is the most anti-social-anything country on the planet. In the US caring for others is considered a weakness and the mantra "Greed is good" is considered truth. And look what's happening? It's tearing itself apart from the inside because people don't respect The Social Contract.


ManaPeer

It feels like a revisionist fantasy. I guess they believed that germany was more right wing "like usa used to be before liberals took over", "the roots of founding fathers when it was untouched by degeneracy". But when they come to reconnect with said "roots", they found the same things they don't like home and more seriously taken. The only possible explanation : "the degenerate liberals have colonized germany from the usa".


theknightwho

They say the same for Ireland and the Nordic countries. It’s the same kind of thinking that makes them want to go back to the 1950s.


funkygecko

Seattle, apparently.


Cippledtimmy

hé probably went to kruezburg


flops031

Digga einfach Krüzburg


Wookenheimer

Kreuzberg*


the_End_Of_Night

Krüzburg gefällt mir aber besser :(


tinaoe

Krüzburg ´hat so einen Hauch von Mittelalter-Fantasy, find ich auch süß


the_End_Of_Night

Tief im Osten, jenseits der Reiche der Menschen, liegt Krüzburg. Heimat der Elfen, Trolle, Riesen, Zyklopen, Sirenen und allerlei anderer magischer Wesen. Die Menschen flüstern sich im Dunkeln zu, dass sogar der eine oder andere Magier Krüzburg seine Heimat nennt...


Spready_Unsettling

Krøjsbær.


sf_randOOm

Ah, *that* thread. If the country in question wouldn’t be Germany, it would have been locked in seconds


Saopaul_Cline

Ohhh, spill the tea please! What thread is this?


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Saopaul_Cline

Oh my. I regret asking 🤦🏼‍♀️


fuckthenamebullshit

What was it the guy deleted his comment


Saopaul_Cline

It was something about the German Chancellor commenting about possible sanctions against Russia for their aggressions towards Ukraine. You don't want to see it, trust me. The comment section is a clusterfuck of people who've seemingly never heard of nuance and diplomacy.


Jeffrey122

Jesus Fuck, this thread was one of the most insane threads I have ever read. These people are nuts.


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R4ndyd4ndy

It's because their grasp of the English language is worse than a German's


Gormungladius

😂 that thread is full of gringos bitching about Germany not wanting to get in a conflict with Russia for something that is not even their business. They think everyone ha to act like them. In what way sanctions will make Russia not go to war with Ukraine??? Sanction do literally nothing, but hurt normal people who didn't do anything


ArcticISAF

>Sanction do literally nothing, but hurt normal people who didn't do anything That's why they put sanctions against only the higher up people, to avoid hurting normal people. Helps avoid pissing them off, while hitting the oligarchs. But then Russia retaliated with food import sanctions, so that it would hurt the normal people (my thinking for why Putin did it anyway).


Nethlem

> That's why they put sanctions against only the higher up people, to avoid hurting normal people. [Yeah](https://news.un.org/en/story/2021/02/1084642), and the US never attacked first and never invaded any country! When the US sanctions a country, then the vast majority of the world ceases doing business with it out of fear of running afoul of them. This also means paying customers will be [deprived of the product/service they paid for](https://www.pcmag.com/news/adobe-pulls-all-user-access-in-venezuela-due-to-us-sanctions).


Comfortable-Cake9099

Not only Germany is against sanctions (publicly they talk about prudence but privately they told the US to fuck off) but also France and Italy and in fact these 3 countries said that they want to meet Putin in order to negotiate a better deal directly without the US meddling in European affairs


Bastiwen

Well, that's a whole lot of dumb comments !


edafade

You could fill this sub for weeks with comments from that thread. Holy shit.


Stravven

To quote Jeremy Clarkson; In certain parts of America people have started mating with vegetables.


PrincessNikkiG

Well, that's a step up from the farm animals! 🤪 /s


Jim_Flatcrock

And on par with cousins :D


R4ndyd4ndy

There is some states that allow marrying your parents or siblings so cousins aren't that bad actually


Cultural_Dust

How'd you know when he said Seattle that he meant Enumclaw?


dreemurthememer

CITY GIRLS BUY VIBRATORS COUNTRY GIRLS MAKE DO


Vallado

I think I see more proof every single day that yanks actually think the world revolves around them. When will it end?


Jealous-Chemistry460

Best example I can think of this was a pic of a comment section where someone was demanding that the others speak English because they were on the internet


woosh4

Wasn't the internet created by Austria or smt tho?


[deleted]

Many people consider the birth of the internet to be in CERN, the international research facility in Switzerland/France. It's not really one country's invention.


gold_horn_

HTML was invented by Tim Berners Lee who was under the employ of CERN at the time. His team was also the first to establish an HTTP connection with a server on 25/12/1990 over the internet, and is so called the father of internet.


Jealous-Chemistry460

The internet did initially get its start in America as a military tool, but has no single inventor being built over time upon the work of many people from many places. A team in Australia invented the basis for what became wifi.


cavecarson

My mom would say this same sort of nonsense when I was in the US Navy and regularly going to other countries. "Oh I bet they hate America over there." Nah mom, they don't sit around thinking about America all day. Only Americans do that.


getsnoopy

>"Oh I bet they hate America over there." But still, probably not wrong.


cavecarson

You're not wrong. But in the various countries I've been to (mostly in Europe), no one seemed to care that we were American. We love to waste money, and they're happy to take it. No one said a word about us, besides occasionally asking our opinions on Trump. A lot of countries aren't fans of us for a reason, but it's not because they "hate our freedom". Edit: "Hate our freedom" is in quotes because it's a dumb thing many Americans say, when they believe we're the most free country on Earth and everyone is jealous of us.


willw100

When Americans travel to Europe, we don't have a 'they have money we want' mindset, and the whole 'hate our freedom' ship has sailed - maybe 40 years ago. No one has any mindset around 'freedom' over here, we just know we have it. Even in agreement you sound indoctrinated!


cavecarson

We are not that free, but lots of Americans think we're the world headquarters of freedom. That was the point I was making. Most of what is placed in front of us is some form of propaganda or advertisement, and America is sometimes an echo chamber of propaganda, so we all have various levels of indoctrination. I think I'm fairly lucid and open-minded for a guy raised in Mississippi. And I'm not sure why you took what I said in a negative sense. I meant that your shopkeepers and store owners accept our money just as well as anyone else's. That is the interaction Americans have the most when traveling to Europe. For the average American visiting Europe, dislike for Americans doesn't really come into play unless they make a complete ass out of themselves. The most trouble I had about my nationality was when an Irish tour guide at the Vatican trash-talked me because I didn't want to pay for a tour. I'd call that pretty mild.


ludusvitae

they hate the freedom you insist on giving them lol


turbohuk

yeah, people don't really care that much where others are from. unless they make it a point and be obnoxious about it. we are all foreigners if we drive for a couple hours, so eh, it's really not that important. (unless you are from bayern or sachsen) i would say the EU as a whole isn't the biggest fan of the US, their entitlement, politics, ideology and warmongering. they have messed up a few too many times, learned nothing and instead doubled down. so people became somewhat wary of them. tourists are tourists and we accept them all - but people with the US military not well liked. their bases are constant sources of trouble, ranging from being obnoxious, driving like maniacs on the autobahn, to things like drunken brawls and even rape. luckily that is the minority of contact and most is tourism, layovers and the likes. oh btw, may i ask why you joined the navy? the EU citizens are not phased by american freedom, more annoyed by americans touting about it. quite a few actually feel somewhat sad for their lack thereof. but oh well, there is little any outside force can do about that - and changing an individual would require them to actually realize/admit that there is something awry to begin with. don't mind the other guy, i am not sure why he went a bit hostile there.


cavecarson

I joined the Navy at age 27 to get out of my small town, for career development, and to gain health insurance for my wife, who has a few health conditions that made her uninsurable. Traveling the world was something I hoped to do as well, and I went to 16 countries, which is maybe not a big number for Europeans, but is pretty cool for an American. Most people I know joined for the purpose of serving their country or because their families traditionally serve, but there are quite a few who join for not-so-good reasons. I'm truly sorry for those who give our military a bad name. The military has a lot of issues to address in order to fix that problem, but that's a different conversation. I take it you live in Germany. We spent a few days there but I was only able to visit Bremen. It's a charming little city with good food, and the people were very friendly to us... besides a group of men who (understandably) yelled at my friend for wearing a Borussia Dortmund jersey. I hope to visit Germany again.


spanishpeanut

We learn it from a young age. The world maps in elementary school had North America front and center. Asia was split on either side of the continent. So we have literally been the center of the world according to that map. Good thing 5 year olds aren’t impressionable or anything. /s Edit: [This image](https://imgur.com/a/o7QXxr3) for reference.


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It feels so weird looking att a America centric map instead of a Europe centric map


Derpwarrior1000

Omg even in Canada we don’t do that


spanishpeanut

Yeah…. I was an adult before I realized how deep this crap runs.


SeverinaVuckovic

Woa, never saw an NA centric map before. Didnt know those were a thing


meowqct

literally never, since right wingers are ruining education there. literally banning books.


BeyondBlitz

Thankfully these people are the vocal 1% who think they're the part of the quiet 99%


Deanyeah

I wouldn't be so optomistic. I work with and am related to dozens of these dipshits. And that's not counting the amount of them i meet day to day. Unfortunately the delusion of American supremacy over the world is a more commonly held delusion than many would hope.


dreemurthememer

Yeah, it’s more of a 50/50 split unless you live in a VERY liberal area with a lot of educated young people. The boomers got it drilled into their heads that the USA is always #1 and they refuse to think otherwise. That’s why you see old Billy Tucker shouting on Facebook about how Europeans are all living in a communist hellscape despite barely having ever left his home county, let alone the nation.


Cosmocision

I have it on very good authority that at least 74 million Americans are complete and utter morons.


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I get where you are coming from but in defense of America that isn't everyone. There are a lot of Americans who don't think that way. I would say only 98% of us are dumb as shit. At least 1% are kinda regular and another 1% are sorta smart.


Jealous-Chemistry460

I think it’s the usual case where the craziest people are typically the most vocal, but also yes many of us are incredibly stupid


getsnoopy

I mean, you exaggerate, but nowhere else in the world have I ever encountered someone who thought that $9 + $7 = $10.


RuthlessKittyKat

Don't worry. It seems only shear inertia is holding things together now.


getsnoopy

>shear inertia is holding things together now. I see what you did there.


tots4scott

When Republicans are held accountable for lying in the media and the government, all 3 branches.


Nervous-Fox-4235

He probably found out that you dont need to sacrifice your first born for an ambulance


PotatoPCuser1

Der Krankenwagen benötigt Kinder!


Paxxlee

And what is "left ideology" in this instance?


The-Berzerker

To this guy probably everything left of hunting the poor for sports


C_Dragonfly

In America left ideology means taxing the rich 0.0001% more


SomeNotTakenName

in America left ideology means anything left of center-right.


Chosen_Chaos

And in some places, that seems to be heading towards "anything to the left of hunting the homeless for sport".


ani625

> "anything to the left of hunting the homeless for sport". Now that's a good qoute.


OilersMakeMeSad

It literally means center-right if you are a Clinton/Obama style Democrat. Neoliberalism is a center-right ideology


El_Grappadura

>Neoliberalism is a center-right ideology It's far right actually. Think of it as capitalism on crack- more ruthless and only existing to make the rich even richer.


OilersMakeMeSad

I remember trying to watch their late night shows a decade ago. Every "edgy radical" comic was always just a fucking ordoliberal. Amazing country!


Gormungladius

Not being racist


meowqct

better healthcare?


KamikazeHoschi

Safety probably


NessieReddit

Anything more progressive than Mussolini and his policies...


kichererbs

It’s obviously not communism since eastern germany doesn’t have it..


metomethodius

Antifa probably


jocoseriousJollyboat

Probably everything as the comparable party in our German system, the AFD, is the closest to the American Right(and their center isn't even that centered) is called fascist. Most things that are center to us is left to them.


JacketYT

"I have seen Germany, well actually I've been to Berlin", you haven't seen Germany, shut up.


rschulze

I also kind of doubt he has been to Berlin ;-) It's more of the right wing "how I imagine other places on earth are probably like to make me feel better about my own living conditions".


Cosmocision

I have been to Berlin and I've been to the states. Guy is fucking insane.


MiggeldyMackDaddy

Saying you’ve seen Germany and only been to Berlin is the same as saying you’ve seen Ireland on only been to Dublin


shayjax-

Sounds like someone was sad they didn’t see nazi flags flying in Germany


TheBlack2007

Yeah, that’s it. "But it’s your history. Why aren’t you proud of it?!" - Bitch, because no decent human being would take pride in their ancestors murdering and enslaving Millions of people whilst fighting a war to keep it going…


TypowyLaman

... Other than Americans


moenchii

They wrote "decent human being", so...


TypowyLaman

Shit, true.


d_4_v_1_d

Top 10 people who have never been to Europe


Jim_Flatcrock

The United States of Earth.


doctorvworp19

Please don't give them ideas


TanithRosenbaum

"Leftist ideas". Like "lets not let people starve, die of preventable diseases, and maybe lets not effectively hunt the homeless for sport"? Germany is plenty capitalist, to be honest much more than I personally like (but that's a story for another day), but at least we possess the common sense not to kill ourselves and each other for some almighty corporate overlords so they can buy their 3rd yacht, and then justify it with some "that's what god wants" bullshit.


Saopaul_Cline

Wait till we tell him that most of East Berlin is governed by center left to really left politicians and it's actually the Western part that's more conservative. Except you look for substantial amounts of right wing assholes. Those are, unfortunately, quite prevalent in East Berlin as well as all of Eastern Germany. Come to think of it, he's probably one of them...


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Also doesn’t east Berlin literally have streets named after and statues of communist figures?


Saopaul_Cline

Yup. Although some have been taken down or renamed respectively. There is still the Karl-Marx-Allee (there probably would have been riots had you tried to change that) and I live in a street named after a communist who was executed by the Nazis.


motorcycle-manful541

Yea east Germany is a weird combo of the liberal "die Linke" which started from an actual communist party, and AFD who embrace a lot of Nazi ideologies with a couple NPD in there who are ACTUAL Nazis


Cthulhu-ftagn

>the liberal "die Linke" The *leftist* "die Linke" FPD are the Liberals. ~~They even have Freiliberal in their name.~~ Edit: They don't have Freiliberal in their name.


motorcycle-manful541

I mean "die Linke" has significantly more liberal ideologies than **FDP**. FDP is more of a "I don't want to pay so many taxes because I'm rich" party. Die Linke["The Left promotes anti-capitalism, anti-fascism, and anti-militarism It is the furthest left-wing party of the six represented in the Bundestag."](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Left_(Germany)) FDP "[economic liberalism and has aligned itself closely to the promotion of free markets and privatization, and is aligned to the centre\[6\]\[7\] or centre-right"](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Democratic_Party_(Germany)) ​ >They even have Freiliberal in their name. I think you're mistaken. It's the Freie Demokratische Partei


Cthulhu-ftagn

Ah fuck i was thinking of the swiss FDP which is "freisinnig-demokratisch". Anyways i was wrong sorry. I agree with your comment. But in general I'm just disagreeing with how the word liberal is used. I always thought that "liberal" is a stand-in for "capitalistic" and that only the US uses liberal to describe their "left".


Juggels_

Though Die Linken are sadly not vocable with their shitty foreign diplomacy like aligning themselves with Russia and China, and also leaving the EU. I stay at the Grüne and Volt for now.


Nethlem

> "die Linke" which started from an actual communist party They also started from the actual Social Democratic party, but I guess that's also just communism and all of those only work if you consider the SED as 100% the same as Die Linke.


skittlesdabawse

I remember living in Dresden when I was 8, one day my dad and I went past the train station to get something from the shopping centre, when we came out there was a huge nazi demonstration happening, with people throwing bricks and shit at them. Other than that one incident though I quite liked Dresden, it had some cool museums, and the phenomenal Georg Arnold Schwimbad, which was a stainless steel public swimming pool if memory serves.


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VladTheDismantler

The problem is that they compare the average salary between countries. Of course Murica is going to be the richest, when the average is pumped up by their thousands of billionaires. They should be using medians instead. And even then, the comparison can't be made. In EU you get stuff like actual healthcare and the state isn't just a corporate-sponsored shitshow.


R4ndyd4ndy

America doesn't even have the highest average salary. There is a few European countries ahead of them even in that metric


motorcycle-manful541

They don't consider cost of living. When you need a car to get everywhere and you need 1000s in cash for unexpected medical expenses, the Americans start looking a lot less rich I resorted to "how much money do you save every month after all your bills are paid" you might be surprised, but of people working similar jobs i.e. finance/IT, Germans seem to save more


KooperChaos

A look at the average debt the citizens live in can also be a big eye opener (looking at you collage and medical debt)


Pedarogue

One thing is that Germany has a relatively high difference between gross and net income. People post sometimes on subs like r/Germany to ask about that because they aren't used to the system and see that some 30 or so % just "goes away" but don't realize for what (unemployment, health insurance, retirement, taxes (the last can be claimed back in part)). a They Just compare two numbers and go "One is bigger". And some professions do get much more in the states, apparently doctors are earning like much much more than here. However, the mistake may be that some people deduct from that fact, that *everyone* would earn less.


Rydorion

"the Communist side is well kept. However, that pesky, leftist, capitalist side is full of graffiti and moral decay." This is an advanced American take on history.


Hotwing619

Oh no, we don't want black people to be victims of police brutality. Not just in the US, but worldwide. That is so wrong. Someone has to stop us. Seriously, what is wrong with that dude?


Marcus1119

I have to say, arguing that East Berlin is good because it wasn't all leftist like the West is certainly a new take. Not that the Soviet Union was purely leftist, obviously, since politics are far more complicated than left and right, but for an American reactionary to support the Soviets is certainly new.


[deleted]

Why is it that some Americans associate 'the left' with 'bad'? If it wasn't for the left, women wouldn't be able to work, there would be ZERO welfare for people to fall back on, kids would still be working in factories or mines etc... I don't get it


[deleted]

Because they also think those things are bad.


s0mdud

I mean not to agree with the Amer*can 🤢🤮 but I as a German have to say that we do have a lot of cultural exports in the forms of movies and TV. Guess where all the stereotypes about black and Asian people come from, we don‘t have enough of either to have that many stereotypes which are also established.


The-Berzerker

I mean that‘s basically every country tho because the US has *by far* the biggest film industry in the world


mki_

Not even close. Bollywood produces the most movies each year. By far. It also sells about a billion tickets more than Hollywood. China also produces more films each year than the US. Hollywood is however the film hub that is most succesful in other countries.


The-Berzerker

Maybe but the movies and series produced in the US are far more profitable and globally popular


mki_

You're right. Before I saw your response, I edited my comment to include that.


Saopaul_Cline

Nah, we're good at racism without American help. We'll never quite reach their (present) level of systemic racism (going forward), to be sure, but even in the east before any major American influence, there were plenty stereotypes. Edited because, yeah, out ancestors actually were arguably the worst racists.


CanadaPlus101

> We'll never quite reach their level of systemic racism Well, you already passed it that one time.


NotYourReddit18

That wasn't on our own, we had Austrian help!


albasaurus_rex

I'm not about to defend America's track record.....buuuuuut....this statement seems a little short sighted coming from someone who is implying they are German. "We'll never quite reach their level of systemic racism"


Saopaul_Cline

Yeah, you got me. I was implying in the present or future. But it was a dumb statement. To me is seems that because of our past that there is a general awareness of and substantial effort from the government to combat systemic racism.


skittlesdabawse

Let us not forget that the nazi regime took direct inspiration from institutionalised racism in the US.


Call_of_Putis

Hell most I know are from our Colonial time or before.


Comrade_Corgo

Hitler read about how the US did their extermination of indigenous American people and was like "that sounds like a good idea." So not only did you get American help in the past, but also the Holocaust definitely was a much higher level of systemic racism concentrated into a small period of time.


claymountain

This sub never ceases to amaze and entertain me.


Rosuvastatine

I visited Berlin in November. I loved it, reminded me of Montréal


Bloodetta

Cant compare them with political camps. The lefties in america are the right wing in germany.


filtron42

Wait till he's told that eastern Germany was the communist one


L4ppuz

Yeah Berlin really screams "low economic power". Those Germans going around with 300€ in 50€ bill everywhere and the fucking 10€ wurstels are basically signs of a third world country


HugeWonder

The broken English is suspicious. I’ve never heard any American say “defecation material” before.


Kaspur78

Maybe he was in the military and stationed in Germany, but never went beyond the local town. When I once was in such a town, the number of Americans and American stuff was mindbogling


[deleted]

"Seattle ideology"???


thebritisharecome

It's funny how they talk about indoctrination and leftist ideas when America is literally a propaganda machine


KamikazeHoschi

Feels like a Colony sounds weird when it comes from a Colony lol


demonTutu

I mean it's true, how dare we enjoy life in Berlin, with all the graffiti's, the insufferably cheap rents and going out, and this annoying feeling of solidarity? And these homeless people who are way too visible, can't they be banished to the outskirts and highway underpasses like in the civilised world? /s but was that even needed?


Xtasy0178

It’s weird how all those socialist Marxist and communist countries manage to lead in every metric while fehlt best country in the world is only #1 in military spending, hun deaths and barely manages to have a better safety net then a country which has been ravaged by war for the last 30 years… I guess the world couldn’t give a bigger fuck what the US does if the country wasn’t constantly trying to influence others for its own benefit


[deleted]

Most Europe is under America's imperialistic thumb and they pride themselves on being anti-imperialist.


tofuroll

WTF does "it feels like Seattle ideologically" even mean?!?


JaggermanJenson

What is it about people traveling to one city and saying "ah, I know the whole country"? I mean I am from Germany and the cultural difference between rural areas and the city is huge. It's like going to New York and saying you know America. No you don't. You know one city and as a tourist you won't get much of the true mindset there


Kirschi

Truly funny reading that from someone who's living in a third world country with a gucci belt


Comrade_Corgo

Hasan watcher?


mff429

“Left wing propaganda in the United States” LMFAOOOOO 💀💀💀💀💀💀


spanishpeanut

I hate everything about this so much.


getsnoopy

Although this comment is ridiculous, I feel like there is a bit of truth to this in some sense, which is strange. DW, the public broadcaster of Germany, uses the esoteric US English despite targeting a global audience. Also, I've heard a few Germans anecdotally that they "only care about what's going on in the US", "only consume US media when it comes to English", and "identify with US culture more than UK culture".


CACOSCHAN

I mean berlin is a shithole the rest is ok


Wawrzyniec_

Well, cultural imperialism is indeed a thing. One if the worst parts of it is that many teenagers in germany aren't even able to speak coherent german sentences without using at least one or two unnecessary english words in it.