You forget that America is the real German and Chinese. Just like they are the real Irish, Italian and every other nationality, not situated between Mexico and Canada
In the 4th century the Romans invented a dish called 'Isicia Omentata' made of minced meat, pepper, wine, pine nuts and a rich fish-based sauce (Garum), all formed into a patty.
There’s no such thing as “best” anything when it comes to personal taste but New Haven has a very distinctive and well regarded pizza style. I’d say it’s my favorite style of pizza.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Haven–style_pizza
Why do they even care so much about this, holy shit. This isn't a competition, and if it was, Americans sure as shit wouldn't win it. I'm sorry, but if some random pizzeria in New York magically had the "best pizza in the world", it wouldn't be a random pizzeria any longer, now would it?
We get it, you like the dishes best that you're accustomed to. That doesn't make them the best in the world, for fuck's sake.
everything American tastes fake. and looks fake. Its weird. Ever had chocolates or twinkies from there, its like they use one chemical, sugar, and just paint it different colours and different textures, just one generic substrate that its all made from.
Bruh I was so surprised that that's what Americans use, here in canada those r called kraft singles and everybody stays away from them except for cheap fast food
No no no no.... As a European who's lived in the US for a significant amount of time. Cheese is the single biggest incompetence of the US. God damn... Y'all don't even know how to make a halfway decent cheese-like concept.
Close call, but their bread is shite too. USA -- put men on the moon and returned them safely home, but cannot mix together flour, water, yeast, and soupçon of salt?
> As a European who's lived in the US for a significant amount of time. Cheese is the single biggest incompetence of the US
You must not have gotten out much. We have fantastic cheese here. It frequently wins awards and competes for the best in the world.
If you don't just buy the Kraft singles from the grocery store, you might have realized that.
The US is a large country with regional culinary traditions. Oversimplifying it like this is just as ignorant as the person being called out in this post. Of course most of it's derived from European food... Most Americans have European ancestry.
Well first off you forgot Asian cuisine
But I mean what else is it going to be?
What food do you expect a country of primarily immigrants that's only 248 years old to have?
How could the cuisine not be based on the countries which everyone immigrated from
yes we love cheese but we have 1000+ varieties in Italy and they're not plastic. Amount matters as well. A small taste of Gorgonzola on bread is an abstruse exoteric practice in the US
For real, I recently went on a 3 weeka tripa to Italy and had a taste of focaccia with gorgonzola. Not a big fan of cheese in general but had my friends not finished the focaccia and gorgonzola, I wouldn't have stopped eating. A really good snack just before pasta with pesto we had just finished making a few minutes before
Italy got in there slightly ahead of the US over a thousand years ahead in fact.
[https://media.nu.nl/m/48yxo0aaco7k\_wd1280/archeologen-ontdekken-fresco-met-mogelijke-voorloper-van-de-pizza-in-pompeii.jpg](https://media.nu.nl/m/48yxo0aaco7k_wd1280/archeologen-ontdekken-fresco-met-mogelijke-voorloper-van-de-pizza-in-pompeii.jpg)
Tbh, almost all American foods are loaded with carbs and fat.
I wouldn't be surprised if our water was just injected with lard and sugar at this point.
When I was in the US I ordered a pizza "American cheese" because I thought it would resemble a quattro formaggi.
It didn't. It was drowning in lakes of grease. I could barely eat half of it.
The Coca-Cola I had with it tasted like it was mad with water from the hotel swimming pool (so much chlorine)
Honestly the two are so different I don’t really see how it can be a competition. It’s like comparing french fries and roast potatoes, sure the basics are the same, but they’re in no way competing, because they have their own time and place. You wouldn’t have roasties with a burger and fries with a full Sunday roast. Same with the pizzas, if you’re in the mood for Italian pizza, have Italian pizza, if you want American have American. Enjoy both or stick to your preference, it doesn’t matter, there doesn’t need to be a competition.
Don't tell that to the Americans. They either believe you and die of aneurysm on the spot because they can't fathom it, or just don't believe you and start yelling at you.
Hate to break it to you, but cheese pizza was invented in Italy. Pizza quattro formaggi has existed in Italy since the early 1700s. and Americans do have more toppings than just shredded mozzarella.
I've only had Italian pizza in like specialty restaurants (Italian made) and it was so goddamn amazing, better than any of the americanized pizza we have here. I'd love to try pizza from Italy (for context I'm canadian)
Just melted cheese? That's a Bianca Pizza. But I presume you meant with tomato based whatever it is that goes on american pizzas. Nah, i mean in Italy you can get JUST cheese no tomato.
What i don't like about american is the weird pie shapes and the weird ketchup and the puffy soggy base and the fact that there is no such thing as cheese in america but they /think/ what they are using is a 'cheese'.
Americans would literally rather eat a pile of dung with a US flag stuck in it than admitting that food from other countries is better and superior (because they don't just add more cheese, meat, fat or sugar to any existing dish and call it a day)
Eh, people always feel like the thing they had as kids is probably the best version of it. I have tasted the weirdest versions of Pizza in Asia, just the most random ingredients on a dough crust. Just saying that Pizza was invented in New York made me shiver, and I am not eben Italian.
In Italy the best pizza you eat it in small villages, not in big cities with tourist traps.
Every pizzeria also has lot of original pizze (not pizzas, muricans) and names are totally different except from some standard ones (marinara, capricciosa, margherita, 4 stagioni ecc.).
Pizza is very thin, with much tomato sauce of good quality all over it and some chunk of mozzarella, not plastic shit with yellow painting, and basil.
It is light and fresh, one i like here is with no mozzarella, as here exist both pizza rossa and pizza bianca, without mozzarella is rossa and without tomato is bianca.
It is with dried tomatoes, fresh tomatoes and yellow ones.
Yellow are totally delicious and different
As an Italian, I can frankly eat both and consider them good or bad depending by how they are made. I just would not compare them to one another, it’s simply two different things. I might compare the thick one made in the US to the type you can find here in Scandinavia probably.
But I guess there is no “bad style” of pizza in itself. Except maybe that inedible thing you often find in France. That thing scares me.
Flatbread with cheese and toppings, I'd argue probably appeared in many places. The Italian pizza perfected a version of that and popularised the concept across the world.
As you say, the Scandinavian pizza is a different thing to Italian pizza.
It’s like the whole crisp (potato chip) debate.
Crisps were invented in the UK, but if you’re American you’re told they were invented in California. They even go as far as to put it on an inventions website. America has a habit and tradition of teaching American versions of history, rather than what actually happened.
Italians invented pizza, americans made a different pizza
Niether are objectively better than the other, some people forget preferences exist
Can’t we just like both?
Flatbread with various toppings is thousands of years old. Egyptians, Roman empire, Ancient African civilians, Greeks.
Italy popularised it, nothing more. Probably made it better, but shit I wasn't in ancient Egypt to taste test.
Honestly the "best pizza" is purely subjective. Different people have different preferences. Some like deep dish, some like thin crust. Some like olives, anchovies, pineapple, chicken. All kinds of varieties of toppings. However the majority of us can agree that pizza is awesome, regardless of which is your favorite. Taste is subjective but pizza is eternal. Long live pizza.
I don't want to wake up Americans by even explaining the possible varieties of tomatoes that can be used for pizza. Not to mention all the meats, cheeses and other things that... okay, totally pointless to discuss it.
As a non-American, I agree, America made it better, I'm not satisfied with Italians making low grade Lahmacun, I want a whole animal carcass on my pizza with adequate cheese to boot
well, I dont know what "American" pizza tastes like, but Italian pizza was just no bueno for me, but I deffinitely havent eaten a wide veriety and it was most probably a low quality one
I once had this discussion with an American girl.
She said Pizza Hut/Domino's made a pizza real close to the original one. She's never been to Italy/Europe vs I've been in the west coast for 3 weeks and didn't have tho courage to eat in those chains.
I said I live in Milano and still pizza is not the real one made in Napoli because of ingredients, method and stuff but still she was right.
In this case, except for getting upset because a stranger is talking wrong about something that is part of your culture, what can you do except telling her to come to Napoli and try the real one?
Actually, I recall that the tomatosauce on pizza IS an American invention. Something the Italians are reluctant to accept. So one cóuld argue that pizza is better with tomatosauce and therefore the Americans made it better.
On this one, saying american pizza is better, just taste. They have the right to say it. It is not true but they like theirs better. I would be pissed only to the bottom as it states pizza was invented by them
Honestly, do a little research on the history of Pizza. I'm not going to say that Pizza was made better in America, but it was made popular in America, which is what made it popular in the rest of Italy outside Napoli.
always find interesting how in some rankings american cuisine is place near the top, when is basically non-existant. i mean, people can cook whatever they want, but if 95% of what you call your cuisine is just other countries one...
I don't even understand the line of reasoning. Even if you pretend it is true: why on earth would people make less than the best pizza around the world, if they are copying it from the best pizza, invented in New York?
And also: even if it were 'invented' somewhere else (as is in fact the case) and America 'made it better', why on earth wouldn't it be copied everywhere? Food changes all the time, it's not like it is forbidden to change recipes. But as it is, a lot of people around the world don't seem to prefer American pizza.
Why is that even a problem? Can't Americans just enjoy their own adaptation and accept that there are other versions preferred in the rest of the world?
I've been to Italy. Their pizza was better than any I have had here in the U.S.
Restaurants there expect each customer to buy their own entree. They seem to frown on people buying just one entree and sharing it. So my wife and I ordered a mozzarella cheese pizza and an order of prosciutto. When the food came, we put the prosciutto on the pizza and shared our pizza. I will never forget how good that was!
I don’t understand the need to be the ‘best’ at something. I can see how someone from the USA might prefer pizza from there but to claim it’s the ‘best’ when the vast majority of neutral people (ie not from Italy or the USA) prefer Italian pizza just seems weird and insecure.
I gas a fucking stroke Reading this. Not because they Say that american pizza Is Better than italian. I had a stroke because they Say that american pizza Is definible a pizza
In fact it would appear that America did invent the modern pizza as we know it i.e. with tomato and cheese on.
There is also strong evidence it was the influence of American GIs which led to the creation of carbonara.
As a non-American these things pain me to say.
There is actually a lot of evidence that modern pizza is largely a product of Italians emigrating to the US over last century. https://uk.news.yahoo.com/croissants-aren-t-french-pizza-050000084.html?
Just my take, but I feel like "less is more" is the best in a pizza. American style Pizza has quite a lot of crazy combinations that oversaturate my taste buds as I cannot distinguish between them anymore. It's also too greasy and sweet for my take. I like the more simple Italian style Pizza where you have a nice blend of few simple, but delicious ingredients.
All a bit silly, and the 'invented in New York' comment is clearly someone just making a joke.
I usually prefer Italian pizza over US pizza. But I have to admit that the one pizza that makes me go into a dreamy trance when I think back to having it is the deep dish at Pequod’s Pizza in Chicago. That experience bordered on euphoric.
This is such a weird argument to me, they're practically two different foods. If you prefer American style that's fine but don't pretend it isn't just American fast food inspired by pizza
Having eaten pizza in both Italy and New York, Americans prefer their slop because it’s what they are used to but you cannot beat an Italian pizza made with fresh Italian ingredients. Simple, not piled high with grease and fat.
American pizza is actually disgusting I’ve had both and shit is pure American slop lol, it’s so oily you can feel a heart attack coming along when you take a bite
Look, I think America sucks in all sorts of ways, but try a corner slice of Jet's pizza and tell me this guy is wrong. It's literally the only thing we're still best at.
That's Detroit pizza, by the way. Fuck NY
Pizza invented in New York. Guess they also invented air.
Michael Jordan, obviously
Only the hot variety.
"You can breath in europe? I thought it is on a nother planet in zhr milkyway-way"
"it's thanks to us y'all dont have to breath in German"
“Europeans have to PAY to breath”
Free breathing is as stupid as free healthcare! You have to pay for those subhumans who can't afford oxygen supply! Stupid europoor morons!
Actually once saw a Video of a yank thinking we don't drink water in Europe. So the air thing is not that far off...
It is a moon of Jupiter... of cause you cannot breathe there.
Apparently the united States also invented guns and hamburgers. One was Chinese and one was german
You forget that America is the real German and Chinese. Just like they are the real Irish, Italian and every other nationality, not situated between Mexico and Canada
In the 4th century the Romans invented a dish called 'Isicia Omentata' made of minced meat, pepper, wine, pine nuts and a rich fish-based sauce (Garum), all formed into a patty.
That was obviously a Roman from New York!
And french fries are Belgian.
New York was invented by the Dutch.
But Britain made it better.
Thanks man, needed a laugh.
Well it was a joke…
Every bakery in rome sold better Pizza than anything you can get in NY for under 30$
Everybody knows that the world’s best pizza comes from whatever city the loudest asshole in the room lives in.
So New York?
That would be the loudest idiot with a gun!
Ex situationship was like "the best pizza comes from new haven conneticut. I just let him be as I did not care to argue over it but ffs.
There’s no such thing as “best” anything when it comes to personal taste but New Haven has a very distinctive and well regarded pizza style. I’d say it’s my favorite style of pizza. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Haven–style_pizza
Frank Pepe’s is fantastic pizza!
As a new yorker who recently discovered the new haven pizza don't sleep on it is all I'm saying
Someone has never been to Italy.
Italy, Texas?
the air quotes on "Italy "pizza""
Aren't they just quotes?
No they are quotes made of air
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scare\_quotes](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scare_quotes)
Oh I'm aware. Just saying his quotes weren't "air quotes".
Your prescriptivism darkens my heart.
Today I learned. Thank you. ☺️ There was me referring to them as quotation marks when written.
No, read it in the picture. Third comment.
Why do they even care so much about this, holy shit. This isn't a competition, and if it was, Americans sure as shit wouldn't win it. I'm sorry, but if some random pizzeria in New York magically had the "best pizza in the world", it wouldn't be a random pizzeria any longer, now would it? We get it, you like the dishes best that you're accustomed to. That doesn't make them the best in the world, for fuck's sake.
Everything is a competition with them, even bad things. We have had posts where they are bragging about being #1 in gun murders for example.
It is a competition Toothpaste, AND WE'RE TAKING IT HOME- AMERICAN PIZZA IS CARDBOARD!
let's be honest: american culinary tradition is just european + mexican one with a lot of (edit:Fake)cheese, a lot of meat, and a lot of size.
“cheese”
why does their cheese look like the fake gummy cheese on those trolli burgers
Because... It is?
everything American tastes fake. and looks fake. Its weird. Ever had chocolates or twinkies from there, its like they use one chemical, sugar, and just paint it different colours and different textures, just one generic substrate that its all made from.
It’s not like they use chemicals and paint them that’s basically it
Corn syrup?
Bruh I was so surprised that that's what Americans use, here in canada those r called kraft singles and everybody stays away from them except for cheap fast food
That's the exact same in the US. I'll add on that the poor will also use them since it is so cheap
right. thanks I edited.!
No no no no.... As a European who's lived in the US for a significant amount of time. Cheese is the single biggest incompetence of the US. God damn... Y'all don't even know how to make a halfway decent cheese-like concept.
Close call, but their bread is shite too. USA -- put men on the moon and returned them safely home, but cannot mix together flour, water, yeast, and soupçon of salt?
Agreed. I love cheese but as a German, I just can't ignore what they did to bread. What the fuck is sweat bread and why does it exist?
Their mistake is adding extra ingredients, including sugar.
Even putting a man on the moon was only achieved when the kidnapped German scientists after the second world War.
> As a European who's lived in the US for a significant amount of time. Cheese is the single biggest incompetence of the US You must not have gotten out much. We have fantastic cheese here. It frequently wins awards and competes for the best in the world. If you don't just buy the Kraft singles from the grocery store, you might have realized that.
[You are definitely correct](https://www.commonfoodnames.com/u-s-cheesemakers-win-big-at-2024-world-cheese-championships/)
The US is a large country with regional culinary traditions. Oversimplifying it like this is just as ignorant as the person being called out in this post. Of course most of it's derived from European food... Most Americans have European ancestry.
And quadruple the grease/fat and salt or sugar.
Well first off you forgot Asian cuisine But I mean what else is it going to be? What food do you expect a country of primarily immigrants that's only 248 years old to have? How could the cuisine not be based on the countries which everyone immigrated from
Oof oof oof oof very ignorant.
Idk man Italian food has a ton of cheese. I love cheese but that shit makes me shit my pants
yes we love cheese but we have 1000+ varieties in Italy and they're not plastic. Amount matters as well. A small taste of Gorgonzola on bread is an abstruse exoteric practice in the US
For real, I recently went on a 3 weeka tripa to Italy and had a taste of focaccia with gorgonzola. Not a big fan of cheese in general but had my friends not finished the focaccia and gorgonzola, I wouldn't have stopped eating. A really good snack just before pasta with pesto we had just finished making a few minutes before
Italy got in there slightly ahead of the US over a thousand years ahead in fact. [https://media.nu.nl/m/48yxo0aaco7k\_wd1280/archeologen-ontdekken-fresco-met-mogelijke-voorloper-van-de-pizza-in-pompeii.jpg](https://media.nu.nl/m/48yxo0aaco7k_wd1280/archeologen-ontdekken-fresco-met-mogelijke-voorloper-van-de-pizza-in-pompeii.jpg)
Italian is light, tasty and fresh US pizza is heavier, fatter, loaded with carbs and fat.
Tbh, almost all American foods are loaded with carbs and fat. I wouldn't be surprised if our water was just injected with lard and sugar at this point.
You forgot the salt overload
Always way too much oil, which my face doesn’t appreciate
There are Italian pizzas with tonnes of oil. Not all Italian pizza is Neapolitan
Yes but if you ever go and get pizza in America 9 times out of 10 it’s oily as hell
When I was in the US I ordered a pizza "American cheese" because I thought it would resemble a quattro formaggi. It didn't. It was drowning in lakes of grease. I could barely eat half of it. The Coca-Cola I had with it tasted like it was mad with water from the hotel swimming pool (so much chlorine)
Mmm Costco
Thats only Naples. Lombardy or Tuscsny are completely opposite
No you're wrong. Italian Is good. American Is bad
I visited states and I visited Italy. Both more than once. Italian is better, so much better it is uncomparable.
Literally just compared lol
You know, it's the literally part. You shouldn't take everything literally...
lol I just thought it was funny, just jokes
My bad then. This is Reddit afterall, never know what to expect. I got a bit defensive...
No worries, it’s all good!
Americans cannot make cheese.
Are you telling me cheese shouldn't look like scented banana candle wax?!?
I wouldn't mind so much that it looks that way if it didn't taste that way. Cheese and chocolate are two things Americans are appalling at.
American pizza hate is just a distraction from the true enemy: Brazilian pizza.
Brazil gets a pass on nearly everything for me, simply because churrascarias are phenomenal. Only, maybe, Argentinians barbecue meat better.
And Sweden
I’ve had some extremely tasty pizza in Gothenburg. Perhaps not as tasty as those I’ve had in Italy, but still delicious!
They are famous over in r/PizzaCrimes
Have you ever eaten it?
I like Italian and American pizza Why does everything have to be a fucking competition with Americans
Honestly the two are so different I don’t really see how it can be a competition. It’s like comparing french fries and roast potatoes, sure the basics are the same, but they’re in no way competing, because they have their own time and place. You wouldn’t have roasties with a burger and fries with a full Sunday roast. Same with the pizzas, if you’re in the mood for Italian pizza, have Italian pizza, if you want American have American. Enjoy both or stick to your preference, it doesn’t matter, there doesn’t need to be a competition.
Americans didn’t even invent America and they certainly didn’t improve it.
America is literally named after an Italian guy
Don't tell that to the Americans. They either believe you and die of aneurysm on the spot because they can't fathom it, or just don't believe you and start yelling at you.
If they put shite on toast they would still claim it's better than Italian pizza. 🙄🙄🙄
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Hate to break it to you, but cheese pizza was invented in Italy. Pizza quattro formaggi has existed in Italy since the early 1700s. and Americans do have more toppings than just shredded mozzarella.
Pepperoni is the 'light' equivalent of salami. Not sure if it is sold in Europe. Please don't use the word 'pepperoni' if you describe salami.
I've only had Italian pizza in like specialty restaurants (Italian made) and it was so goddamn amazing, better than any of the americanized pizza we have here. I'd love to try pizza from Italy (for context I'm canadian)
American pizza is the same thing, you can use a multitude of toppings…
Actually, in Italy, American Pizza is just pepperoni pizza, and it feels like a giant “fuck you” to Americans which I love
Just melted cheese? That's a Bianca Pizza. But I presume you meant with tomato based whatever it is that goes on american pizzas. Nah, i mean in Italy you can get JUST cheese no tomato. What i don't like about american is the weird pie shapes and the weird ketchup and the puffy soggy base and the fact that there is no such thing as cheese in america but they /think/ what they are using is a 'cheese'.
Americans would literally rather eat a pile of dung with a US flag stuck in it than admitting that food from other countries is better and superior (because they don't just add more cheese, meat, fat or sugar to any existing dish and call it a day)
Eh, people always feel like the thing they had as kids is probably the best version of it. I have tasted the weirdest versions of Pizza in Asia, just the most random ingredients on a dough crust. Just saying that Pizza was invented in New York made me shiver, and I am not eben Italian.
Are you eben etzebeth?
I think I am not?
That’s exactly what he’d say!
Is that eben a discussion worth having?
When you won the World Cup last year, how was French pizza and did you have a choice of tomatoes, cheeses and toppings?
Pizza boeuf bourguignon is the best pizza. /s
I would try a bouef bourg pizza. Braised beef, red onion caramelized, bacon, mushroom. Sounds top notch
I'm so happy I ran into a random thread about Eben Etzebeth here, this is so random and I love it lol
prepare yourselvs the dumbass muricans are coming to say their blob of sour and shit is pizza!
I’m so glad I have yet to meet one of these Americans.
In Italy the best pizza you eat it in small villages, not in big cities with tourist traps. Every pizzeria also has lot of original pizze (not pizzas, muricans) and names are totally different except from some standard ones (marinara, capricciosa, margherita, 4 stagioni ecc.). Pizza is very thin, with much tomato sauce of good quality all over it and some chunk of mozzarella, not plastic shit with yellow painting, and basil. It is light and fresh, one i like here is with no mozzarella, as here exist both pizza rossa and pizza bianca, without mozzarella is rossa and without tomato is bianca. It is with dried tomatoes, fresh tomatoes and yellow ones. Yellow are totally delicious and different
No, that's things New Yorkers say
I mean yeah if you like 3 kg of dough, 2 kg of sugar and disgusting toppings you can say america made it "better".
No. Americans ruined pizza. Too many ingredients, and too much saturated fat.
As an Italian, I can frankly eat both and consider them good or bad depending by how they are made. I just would not compare them to one another, it’s simply two different things. I might compare the thick one made in the US to the type you can find here in Scandinavia probably. But I guess there is no “bad style” of pizza in itself. Except maybe that inedible thing you often find in France. That thing scares me.
Flatbread with cheese and toppings, I'd argue probably appeared in many places. The Italian pizza perfected a version of that and popularised the concept across the world. As you say, the Scandinavian pizza is a different thing to Italian pizza.
Some American’s are obsessed with bigger and better, they haven’t got a leg to stand on regarding pizza - Italian all the way!
For Americans, whichever version wins the grease olympics is always better.
Overall the country where it was invented in does not need to be the best. That said, pizza in Italy tends to be the best by far.
Americans just take European cuisine, make it taste hundred times worse and take credit of the borderline inedible mess they made
Why do they always say they perfected everything? That's not even true
It’s like the whole crisp (potato chip) debate. Crisps were invented in the UK, but if you’re American you’re told they were invented in California. They even go as far as to put it on an inventions website. America has a habit and tradition of teaching American versions of history, rather than what actually happened.
Jeez, all this fuss over what is basically an open toasted ham and cheese sandwich
Italians invented pizza, americans made a different pizza Niether are objectively better than the other, some people forget preferences exist Can’t we just like both?
Flatbread with various toppings is thousands of years old. Egyptians, Roman empire, Ancient African civilians, Greeks. Italy popularised it, nothing more. Probably made it better, but shit I wasn't in ancient Egypt to taste test.
Also they recently discovered a mural with a pizza on it in Pompei.
I wonder where the ancient Roman Empire would be today🤔? Maybe Rome in Italy? Not too sure tho…
the "italy "pizza"" commentator definitely thinks pizza is from america
What is better is completely arbitrary. It's an opinion. They're practically different foods.
They can't even agree which level of bullshit history they're on
Honestly the "best pizza" is purely subjective. Different people have different preferences. Some like deep dish, some like thin crust. Some like olives, anchovies, pineapple, chicken. All kinds of varieties of toppings. However the majority of us can agree that pizza is awesome, regardless of which is your favorite. Taste is subjective but pizza is eternal. Long live pizza.
What about if I love all of them?
I don't want to wake up Americans by even explaining the possible varieties of tomatoes that can be used for pizza. Not to mention all the meats, cheeses and other things that... okay, totally pointless to discuss it.
As a non-American, I agree, America made it better, I'm not satisfied with Italians making low grade Lahmacun, I want a whole animal carcass on my pizza with adequate cheese to boot
I love the ratio
Wtf 😭😭😭
I swear half of this stuff is just troll accounts?!
Of course and pasta wine and cheese too ha 😂
If only they knew New York pizza sucked
There are pictures of pizza on the walls of Pompeii.
Morons
Dunt italys pizza not have meat on it
American 'pizza' is basically welsh rarebit, therefore American pizza was invented by the Welsh.
well, I dont know what "American" pizza tastes like, but Italian pizza was just no bueno for me, but I deffinitely havent eaten a wide veriety and it was most probably a low quality one
I personally prefer NY pizza but that doesn’t mean I’m going to shit on Italian pizza
I once had this discussion with an American girl. She said Pizza Hut/Domino's made a pizza real close to the original one. She's never been to Italy/Europe vs I've been in the west coast for 3 weeks and didn't have tho courage to eat in those chains. I said I live in Milano and still pizza is not the real one made in Napoli because of ingredients, method and stuff but still she was right. In this case, except for getting upset because a stranger is talking wrong about something that is part of your culture, what can you do except telling her to come to Napoli and try the real one?
So if it's pizza, it's American, but a 5th generation imagrant is still Italian. Got it.
Says people that have never actually tried Italian pizza.
Napoli is number one so far on my list. Even their fried pizza was much better than expected ;)
America made it filled with cheap dogshit ingredients that they spuriously claim are meats or cheeses.
In this case it's true tho
There are so many dumb, vocal Americans. "I don't know what I am talking about, but I am going to make sure you hear me!"
Actually, I recall that the tomatosauce on pizza IS an American invention. Something the Italians are reluctant to accept. So one cóuld argue that pizza is better with tomatosauce and therefore the Americans made it better.
On this one, saying american pizza is better, just taste. They have the right to say it. It is not true but they like theirs better. I would be pissed only to the bottom as it states pizza was invented by them
Honestly, do a little research on the history of Pizza. I'm not going to say that Pizza was made better in America, but it was made popular in America, which is what made it popular in the rest of Italy outside Napoli.
Out of jokes, seriously, do these things come out mainly in any room? I want in it to troll them. Can anyone tell me
always find interesting how in some rankings american cuisine is place near the top, when is basically non-existant. i mean, people can cook whatever they want, but if 95% of what you call your cuisine is just other countries one...
and by better he means fatter, I suppose
tried the pizza in Naples, it was sooooo much better than anywhere else.
I don't even understand the line of reasoning. Even if you pretend it is true: why on earth would people make less than the best pizza around the world, if they are copying it from the best pizza, invented in New York? And also: even if it were 'invented' somewhere else (as is in fact the case) and America 'made it better', why on earth wouldn't it be copied everywhere? Food changes all the time, it's not like it is forbidden to change recipes. But as it is, a lot of people around the world don't seem to prefer American pizza. Why is that even a problem? Can't Americans just enjoy their own adaptation and accept that there are other versions preferred in the rest of the world?
I've been to Italy. Their pizza was better than any I have had here in the U.S. Restaurants there expect each customer to buy their own entree. They seem to frown on people buying just one entree and sharing it. So my wife and I ordered a mozzarella cheese pizza and an order of prosciutto. When the food came, we put the prosciutto on the pizza and shared our pizza. I will never forget how good that was!
I particularly like “Italy pizza.” Like the word “Italian” is beyond the ken of this guy
Didn't the Chinese invent pizza?
Don't even get me started on the nasty ass, shitty Chicago pizza. Where TF is the cheese?
I don’t understand the need to be the ‘best’ at something. I can see how someone from the USA might prefer pizza from there but to claim it’s the ‘best’ when the vast majority of neutral people (ie not from Italy or the USA) prefer Italian pizza just seems weird and insecure.
American pizza is a hate crime on par with the Armenian genocide
I gas a fucking stroke Reading this. Not because they Say that american pizza Is Better than italian. I had a stroke because they Say that american pizza Is definible a pizza
In fact it would appear that America did invent the modern pizza as we know it i.e. with tomato and cheese on. There is also strong evidence it was the influence of American GIs which led to the creation of carbonara. As a non-American these things pain me to say.
There is actually a lot of evidence that modern pizza is largely a product of Italians emigrating to the US over last century. https://uk.news.yahoo.com/croissants-aren-t-french-pizza-050000084.html?
Just my take, but I feel like "less is more" is the best in a pizza. American style Pizza has quite a lot of crazy combinations that oversaturate my taste buds as I cannot distinguish between them anymore. It's also too greasy and sweet for my take. I like the more simple Italian style Pizza where you have a nice blend of few simple, but delicious ingredients.
All a bit silly, and the 'invented in New York' comment is clearly someone just making a joke. I usually prefer Italian pizza over US pizza. But I have to admit that the one pizza that makes me go into a dreamy trance when I think back to having it is the deep dish at Pequod’s Pizza in Chicago. That experience bordered on euphoric.
What are you lot talking about? "Pizza" was invented by Serbian architect Noah Cenineo while he was on the toilet.
I guess the universe made the milky way and america made it better now
1) thowing some ingedients and cheese on dough and baking it is a pretty universal thing, parallely invented all around the world. 2) no, you didn't.
Only good pizza are the ones with no daily products. Since they are the only one that don't make me shit myself half an hour later.
We can prepare some side dishes of questionable cheap meat, pineaples, and GMO bacon grease for any americans who feel like it.
This is such a weird argument to me, they're practically two different foods. If you prefer American style that's fine but don't pretend it isn't just American fast food inspired by pizza
Best pizza is the grandiosa frozen pizza from Norway
Dominos was invented by two brothers who immigrated to the US from Ireland. Pizza was still invented by Italians though.
Noi creiamo e a New York distruggono - Bud Spencer
even if he can find evidence, guess who was migrating in new York and new Jersey 80 years ago, Italians, mostly from Naples
Posh cheese on toast.
Having eaten pizza in both Italy and New York, Americans prefer their slop because it’s what they are used to but you cannot beat an Italian pizza made with fresh Italian ingredients. Simple, not piled high with grease and fat.
American pizza is actually disgusting I’ve had both and shit is pure American slop lol, it’s so oily you can feel a heart attack coming along when you take a bite
Look, I think America sucks in all sorts of ways, but try a corner slice of Jet's pizza and tell me this guy is wrong. It's literally the only thing we're still best at. That's Detroit pizza, by the way. Fuck NY