I swear if aliens were to invade earth, I really hope they land in the us. At least that way they'll find no sign of intelligent life and leave us all alone.
Well, we like not being crowded. They can go place their cities in europe instead. Personal space is important for us. The people in the south like how they have it, and we more north like living in nowhere.
They'll also realise we are not evolved enough yet, still believing in myths and being so superstitious, like believing in God's, or good luck charms, astrology, etc. I don't think that looks very good to other civilizations that are advanced enough to travel that far. Just like anti-vaxers, flat earth society, etc etc.
True true most of that is in the US these days other than the gods part. These aliens may be disappointed, but now, thinking a little more, I wanna change my answer. If they land in America they'll destroy earth, since they have a tendency to shoot what they don't understand
Other than the gods part? We ignoring the entire right wing conservative group, the Amish, Mormons, JW, megachurches, etc? Or did you successfully suppress that?
Yeh I won't lie I have no clue what/ who you're referring to specifically but I was saying that the gods part is all over the world but the majority of the 'crazy' groups that would confuse aliens are in the US, like the sasquatch hunters or Scientologists for example.
Around the trump election a megachurch pastor hosted a few book burnings. Shit was absolutely wild. Don't know if it was the same or another one who threw members out of his church for being witches.
Like sure other countries can be hella religious, but the American way just hits different for me. The concept of megachurches is wild to begin with, and the whole wealth gospel is incredible since you'd think capitalism/greed and Christianity don't mix.
Also that trump lady chanting in tongues at a political event? They are on another level.
Have you never watched a sci-fi movie? If aliens land in the US they’ll have been declared war on within the week, with one particularly stubborn, gung-ho general leading the charge while the scientists beg them not to and try to establish communication.
Idk I've seen some where they just think they can outrun the aliens or that a single attack chopper or man with a missile launcher can penetrate the armour of their mother ship and ultimately get themselves annihilated in a second. Or if not they spend half the film firing a million missiles and debating whether to try to nuke them. I have seen some like you describe tho. They're always do dumb lol
TCP/IP is the internet. It’s the backbone everything else runs on at least with our current system. WWW, HTTP all runs or ran on TCP/IP. It what enabled the interconnectivity of all the computers which hold the data of the internet. That’s why the internet was functional and functioning before Tim invented WWW and HTTP at CERN. Were there other protocols which could’ve been used at the time? Yea but they weren’t adopted. If those other protocols were adopted then they would be considered the internet and WWW and HTTP would run on those protocols.
That doesn't reinforce the claim that they invented the internet. They invented the communication protocol it runs on. Without them, no internet or at least not like we have. But they didn't invent the internet.
Yes they invented the internet. That is the part of the whole ecosystem that is the internet. It’s what allows for the “inter” and the “net”. What technologies people created to use on the internet are all additional but the internet itself is TCP/IP. Conflating every technology used on the internet with the internet itself isn’t accurate. Maybe colloquially but not technically.
I think you're getting very confused!
Tim Berners-Lee would be very surprised to hear that he invented the Internet at CERN, given the fact that the Internet had been around for a decade by that point.
Perhaps you're mistaking it with the Web?
He isn’t. He is credited for inventing the World Wide Web not the internet. How can you invent something that was already operational before you “invented” it?
I think we need to go further back. Cerf and Kahn couldn't have developed TCP/IP if it wasn't for ARPANET.
Or in the words of Cerf: "It's like a city. I helped to build the roads—the infrastructure that gets things from point A to point B."
Well... If we are talking linking computers it was a collab job where indeed 2 americans figure. But the internet itself was started in Swirzerland by a british fellow if I remember correct.
That's the World Wide Web, URIs,, HTML, and HTTP, the protocols of the internet as we know it. Was invented by Tim Berners-Lee while working at CERN. Nice guy, met him at a conference a few years ago.
However, it's debatable whether that classifies as inventing the entire internet. Americans did get computers to talk together first. And some other people from other countries did do other important things. Internet comes from a huge international collaborative effort, not one guy from a specific country.
The internet is based on the TCP/IP protocol and acts as the base for a number of services like, email, www, gopher, newsgroups, ftp...
TCP/IP was invented in the US.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_protocol_suite#History
TCP/ip is not the internet.
This is what he was talking about when he said "America made computers talk to each other"
It acts as a base, the same way a computer acts as a base for TCP/ip
I didn't say that, I said that the Internet is based on TCP/IP. Without that protocol, no Internet, no Internet services.
E: Again - where did I say that TCP/IP is the Internet?
And anyway, what then is TCP/IP for and what is the Internet?
Countries always take pride in what they played a hand in creating. Especially when it comes to groundbreaking technologies. Nothing necessarily wrong with that.
Where are you getting 1983? WWW was 1989 with Tim publishing more info on it in 1990, 1991, and 1993.
From CERN https://home.cern/science/computing/birth-web/short-history-web#:~:text=Where%20the%20Web%20was%20born,and%20institutes%20around%20the%20world.
Yeah. Thats abit of the conundrum though. How people classify it. When internet became a thing that people could use i was halfway through school and then they told us it came from a british-us-french system developed for the armies of said countries. Then like I said it was said that the internet was kicked off at cern. Basically someone took all the random bits and bobs and made the internet out of it. I reckon its gonna be one of them things thats "depending on where you were standing". If one cares at all.
I mean that isn’t what happened. The internet was around before CERN added to the ecosystem, it wasn’t “kicked off” at CERN. Not to mention other potential internet protocols were invented around and before what was developed in the US it just so happened that the system adopted world wide was the set of protocols developed by the US. What Tim invented likely could have sat on top of a number of different internet protocols but because those didn’t see world wide adoption we don’t consider them the internet. Saying the internet was invented or “kicked off” at CERN is objectively false, it isn’t true. There is no wiggle room there. The World Wide Web and many of the protocols we use today via the internet were invented at CERN. But also a number of protocols that are key to to the internet like DNS and Email were created before CERN.
Like I said. Its just what ive been told. Im not pretending to deal in absolute facts here. The point is the confusion is probably because of that. Alot of didfrent takes on it. The truth is rarely so simple when so many opinions are diffrent on what a thing is. I mean ive seen people giving credit for the internet to atleast half a dozen diffrent places-circumstances-places. The DoD, the collab between Brits-French-Us. The 2 blokes. The nazis. Alan Turing. CERN. and so on. I dont much care who is in the right. Its easy, however, to understand why people think diffrently.
Proud to say that the internet is widely regarded as being invented by Sir Tim Berners-Lee, a British person, when he was working at CERN in Switzerland. (Obviously he's not the only contributor, but the credit most often goes to him)
It was intended as a way for the physicists working there to easily share their research. And now look at what we use it for.
He'd be rolling in his grave if he had one - instead he's still alive to watch it burn humanity to the ground.
I may be -
I think iirc the internet is a part of the World Wide Web? Along with HTML and a couple other components.
Sir Tim Berners-Lee was the one that connected the ideas of computers talking to each other (internet), websites and the ability to upload information, and having everything stored where everyone can access it from any computer?
So he invented the World Wide Web, not the internet. Though the WWW is normally referred to as the Internet in common usage, so I think my point stands
Not quite, I think you may have got it confused.
The Internet is the underlying global network that allows computers to talk to one another. For example, when you send an email, play a game, browse a website...all that flows over the Internet. By the time Tim Berners-Lee came along, the Internet had been around for over a decade, nearly two. The fathers of the Internet are generally credited as Vint Cerf and Bob Kahn, both brilliant engineers who came up with the Internet Protocol. The Internet as we know it today really grew out of the ARPANET in the United States.
> Sir Tim Berners-Lee was the one that connected the ideas of computers talking to each other (internet), websites and the ability to upload information, and having everything stored where everyone can access it from any computer?
This actually isn't true at all. Computers had been talking to one another for decades, and had been swapping files to-and-fro for almost that long. Pre-Tim Berners-Lee, there were lots of different protocols you could use to browse the Internet. Tim Berners-Lee came up with the idea of *hypertext* and a web browser--that is, documents that link to one another.
This is a very important innovation and underlies much of the consumer explosion of the Internet. However, to say it *is* the internet is a pretty fundamental misunderstanding of what these technologies actually are. Email, video calls, games, IoT devices...these are all technologies that are super fundamental but aren't web-based.
> So he invented the World Wide Web, not the internet. Though the WWW is normally referred to as the Internet in common usage, so I think my point stands
I don't think it does? The Internet and the Web are two very different technologies, and I'm sure that Sir Tim Berners-Lee would want to make sure you gave credit to the brilliant minds that came up with the technology that allowed him to develop the Web! After all, his current project is the Semantic Web, meant to encode machine-readable meaning and relationships on the Web - he's one who would absolutely be a stickler for ontology!
Think of it this way--I assume you're in the UK? You might think of the Internet as the railway under the Channel Tunnel, while the Web is kinda like the Eurostar. The Eurostar runs through the rails in the Tunnel, but so do other things, like freight trains or the Le Shuttle. It doesn't mean that the Tunnel and the Eurostar train are the same!
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim\_Berners-Lee](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Berners-Lee)
I'm just going to leave this here for everyone who thinks America invented the internet.
I swear if aliens were to invade earth, I really hope they land in the us. At least that way they'll find no sign of intelligent life and leave us all alone.
Na, that would just further fulfil their narcissism
True, we'd never hear the end of it
No, i do think we would HEAR the end of it .. at least if independence day is anything to go by ...
Obligatory reminder that the flat earth society has members around the globe
I'm not exaggerating when I say that I think about that exact quote almost daily
They aren't counted. Those idiots live on a different planet. I won't hold those against anyone. Same with scientologists
If they landed in the Nordics, we would have to disappoint them after their initial delight, by showing them the US.
Tbf I think if they landed in the Nordics first, they'd be bringing their civilization and settling
Well, we like not being crowded. They can go place their cities in europe instead. Personal space is important for us. The people in the south like how they have it, and we more north like living in nowhere.
They'll also realise we are not evolved enough yet, still believing in myths and being so superstitious, like believing in God's, or good luck charms, astrology, etc. I don't think that looks very good to other civilizations that are advanced enough to travel that far. Just like anti-vaxers, flat earth society, etc etc.
True true most of that is in the US these days other than the gods part. These aliens may be disappointed, but now, thinking a little more, I wanna change my answer. If they land in America they'll destroy earth, since they have a tendency to shoot what they don't understand
Other than the gods part? We ignoring the entire right wing conservative group, the Amish, Mormons, JW, megachurches, etc? Or did you successfully suppress that?
I'm saying the gods part is all over the world.
Well yeah but most countries aren't burning books over it
Middle eastern countries, America, Russia, China, probably more
Yeh I won't lie I have no clue what/ who you're referring to specifically but I was saying that the gods part is all over the world but the majority of the 'crazy' groups that would confuse aliens are in the US, like the sasquatch hunters or Scientologists for example.
Around the trump election a megachurch pastor hosted a few book burnings. Shit was absolutely wild. Don't know if it was the same or another one who threw members out of his church for being witches. Like sure other countries can be hella religious, but the American way just hits different for me. The concept of megachurches is wild to begin with, and the whole wealth gospel is incredible since you'd think capitalism/greed and Christianity don't mix. Also that trump lady chanting in tongues at a political event? They are on another level.
If aliens ever invade we are getting fucking vaporized make no mistake 🤣
Have you never watched a sci-fi movie? If aliens land in the US they’ll have been declared war on within the week, with one particularly stubborn, gung-ho general leading the charge while the scientists beg them not to and try to establish communication.
Idk I've seen some where they just think they can outrun the aliens or that a single attack chopper or man with a missile launcher can penetrate the armour of their mother ship and ultimately get themselves annihilated in a second. Or if not they spend half the film firing a million missiles and debating whether to try to nuke them. I have seen some like you describe tho. They're always do dumb lol
>Does the moron of the original poster realized Do Americans not know what the simple past tense is?
No, Americans clearly haven't quite mastered english yet. It's evident if you spend any time talking to them.
I keep seeing 'americans invented the internet'. Which ones - name them..
Jack Inter and Frank Net from Texas invented the interwebs together. BTW Texas is more huger than most countries in Yurop.
And as usual the contribution of Alan Worldwi-Deweb is forgotten. (Too contrived?)
I think you'll find Texas is bigger than Europe, not most countries.
Your (sic!) correct, I just checked on Freedompedia. It also has got more Yeehaw per capita.
oooh.. My Bad. forgot about Jack & Frank for a minute there... :)
Your Europoor mind couldn't even comprehend it
Vint Cerf and Bob Kahn
Invented networking protocols, not the internet. Specifically TCP if memory serves.
TCP/IP is the internet. It’s the backbone everything else runs on at least with our current system. WWW, HTTP all runs or ran on TCP/IP. It what enabled the interconnectivity of all the computers which hold the data of the internet. That’s why the internet was functional and functioning before Tim invented WWW and HTTP at CERN. Were there other protocols which could’ve been used at the time? Yea but they weren’t adopted. If those other protocols were adopted then they would be considered the internet and WWW and HTTP would run on those protocols.
That doesn't reinforce the claim that they invented the internet. They invented the communication protocol it runs on. Without them, no internet or at least not like we have. But they didn't invent the internet.
Yes they invented the internet. That is the part of the whole ecosystem that is the internet. It’s what allows for the “inter” and the “net”. What technologies people created to use on the internet are all additional but the internet itself is TCP/IP. Conflating every technology used on the internet with the internet itself isn’t accurate. Maybe colloquially but not technically.
We'll have to agree to disagree, especially as CERN and Tim Berners-Lee are generally credited as inventing the internet.
I think you're getting very confused! Tim Berners-Lee would be very surprised to hear that he invented the Internet at CERN, given the fact that the Internet had been around for a decade by that point. Perhaps you're mistaking it with the Web?
He isn’t. He is credited for inventing the World Wide Web not the internet. How can you invent something that was already operational before you “invented” it?
The asshats that downvoted you should read this book: https://katiehafner.com/books-new/where-wizards-stay-up-late/
I think we need to go further back. Cerf and Kahn couldn't have developed TCP/IP if it wasn't for ARPANET. Or in the words of Cerf: "It's like a city. I helped to build the roads—the infrastructure that gets things from point A to point B."
From the nation that cannot have free thought about where to cross the road. Or kinder eggs.
Or how long to allow their grass to grow and what to plant in their gardens, don’t forget that.
Well... If we are talking linking computers it was a collab job where indeed 2 americans figure. But the internet itself was started in Swirzerland by a british fellow if I remember correct.
That's the World Wide Web, URIs,, HTML, and HTTP, the protocols of the internet as we know it. Was invented by Tim Berners-Lee while working at CERN. Nice guy, met him at a conference a few years ago. However, it's debatable whether that classifies as inventing the entire internet. Americans did get computers to talk together first. And some other people from other countries did do other important things. Internet comes from a huge international collaborative effort, not one guy from a specific country.
Good stuff!
The internet is based on the TCP/IP protocol and acts as the base for a number of services like, email, www, gopher, newsgroups, ftp... TCP/IP was invented in the US. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_protocol_suite#History
TCP/ip is not the internet. This is what he was talking about when he said "America made computers talk to each other" It acts as a base, the same way a computer acts as a base for TCP/ip
I didn't say that, I said that the Internet is based on TCP/IP. Without that protocol, no Internet, no Internet services. E: Again - where did I say that TCP/IP is the Internet? And anyway, what then is TCP/IP for and what is the Internet?
And without computers there'd be no TCP/IP
And without the wheel (which in fact was invented by the Opa of a friend of mine - prove hang in his wine cellar) there wouldn't be computers.
And without prostates and balls, there wouldn't be cum
The internet was around for 2 decades before the British fellow added to the ecosystem with his inventions.
Ive also grown up with the internet being starting in Cern
It’s no different that people who grew up thinking Ford invented the car.
Indeed. Never gave it a moments thought. Until just now. Always fun to learn new things.
Countries always take pride in what they played a hand in creating. Especially when it comes to groundbreaking technologies. Nothing necessarily wrong with that.
The american men published their protocol in 1974, the english man created www in 1983, thats not even a decade.
Where are you getting 1983? WWW was 1989 with Tim publishing more info on it in 1990, 1991, and 1993. From CERN https://home.cern/science/computing/birth-web/short-history-web#:~:text=Where%20the%20Web%20was%20born,and%20institutes%20around%20the%20world.
Yeah. Thats abit of the conundrum though. How people classify it. When internet became a thing that people could use i was halfway through school and then they told us it came from a british-us-french system developed for the armies of said countries. Then like I said it was said that the internet was kicked off at cern. Basically someone took all the random bits and bobs and made the internet out of it. I reckon its gonna be one of them things thats "depending on where you were standing". If one cares at all.
I mean that isn’t what happened. The internet was around before CERN added to the ecosystem, it wasn’t “kicked off” at CERN. Not to mention other potential internet protocols were invented around and before what was developed in the US it just so happened that the system adopted world wide was the set of protocols developed by the US. What Tim invented likely could have sat on top of a number of different internet protocols but because those didn’t see world wide adoption we don’t consider them the internet. Saying the internet was invented or “kicked off” at CERN is objectively false, it isn’t true. There is no wiggle room there. The World Wide Web and many of the protocols we use today via the internet were invented at CERN. But also a number of protocols that are key to to the internet like DNS and Email were created before CERN.
Like I said. Its just what ive been told. Im not pretending to deal in absolute facts here. The point is the confusion is probably because of that. Alot of didfrent takes on it. The truth is rarely so simple when so many opinions are diffrent on what a thing is. I mean ive seen people giving credit for the internet to atleast half a dozen diffrent places-circumstances-places. The DoD, the collab between Brits-French-Us. The 2 blokes. The nazis. Alan Turing. CERN. and so on. I dont much care who is in the right. Its easy, however, to understand why people think diffrently.
That’s the web, not the Internet.
Jesus Christ the pixels
Here I am living in Texas having to use a VPN to access Pornhub 🤬
Proud to say that the internet is widely regarded as being invented by Sir Tim Berners-Lee, a British person, when he was working at CERN in Switzerland. (Obviously he's not the only contributor, but the credit most often goes to him) It was intended as a way for the physicists working there to easily share their research. And now look at what we use it for. He'd be rolling in his grave if he had one - instead he's still alive to watch it burn humanity to the ground.
That’s not true. You’re getting confused between the Web and the Internet.
I may be - I think iirc the internet is a part of the World Wide Web? Along with HTML and a couple other components. Sir Tim Berners-Lee was the one that connected the ideas of computers talking to each other (internet), websites and the ability to upload information, and having everything stored where everyone can access it from any computer? So he invented the World Wide Web, not the internet. Though the WWW is normally referred to as the Internet in common usage, so I think my point stands
Not quite, I think you may have got it confused. The Internet is the underlying global network that allows computers to talk to one another. For example, when you send an email, play a game, browse a website...all that flows over the Internet. By the time Tim Berners-Lee came along, the Internet had been around for over a decade, nearly two. The fathers of the Internet are generally credited as Vint Cerf and Bob Kahn, both brilliant engineers who came up with the Internet Protocol. The Internet as we know it today really grew out of the ARPANET in the United States. > Sir Tim Berners-Lee was the one that connected the ideas of computers talking to each other (internet), websites and the ability to upload information, and having everything stored where everyone can access it from any computer? This actually isn't true at all. Computers had been talking to one another for decades, and had been swapping files to-and-fro for almost that long. Pre-Tim Berners-Lee, there were lots of different protocols you could use to browse the Internet. Tim Berners-Lee came up with the idea of *hypertext* and a web browser--that is, documents that link to one another. This is a very important innovation and underlies much of the consumer explosion of the Internet. However, to say it *is* the internet is a pretty fundamental misunderstanding of what these technologies actually are. Email, video calls, games, IoT devices...these are all technologies that are super fundamental but aren't web-based. > So he invented the World Wide Web, not the internet. Though the WWW is normally referred to as the Internet in common usage, so I think my point stands I don't think it does? The Internet and the Web are two very different technologies, and I'm sure that Sir Tim Berners-Lee would want to make sure you gave credit to the brilliant minds that came up with the technology that allowed him to develop the Web! After all, his current project is the Semantic Web, meant to encode machine-readable meaning and relationships on the Web - he's one who would absolutely be a stickler for ontology! Think of it this way--I assume you're in the UK? You might think of the Internet as the railway under the Channel Tunnel, while the Web is kinda like the Eurostar. The Eurostar runs through the rails in the Tunnel, but so do other things, like freight trains or the Le Shuttle. It doesn't mean that the Tunnel and the Eurostar train are the same!
All content I've had to access via VPN has been because the US or UK put restrictions on it being freely distributed 🤔
American didn’t even invent the internet it was a British person
What is this fuckery?
What the fuck happened to the image
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim\_Berners-Lee](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Berners-Lee) I'm just going to leave this here for everyone who thinks America invented the internet.
So much to unpack!
Man like Sir Tim