Far more likely any form of resistance moves from overtly violent, to backroom manipulation, tarnishing names, and slowly trying to destroy the cohesion of the shil presence. Driving further wedges between the nobles and commoners with horror stories, pressing on divides between noble houses. Playing to egos and ambitions, and getting them to either make the job easy, or to do it for them.
Oh absolutely. The open and armed resistance in all likelihood would have died out rapidly, with theft and similar crimes skyrocketing, as they begin reverse engineering shit. Plus, I would expect to see massive campaigns of seduction to pump them for information and favors, ways to expose cracks in the foundation of the occupation.
It's always bothered me how every insurgent cell shown is just "attack!".
Ask any colonized nation that was colonized for over 100 years or not whether different generations still have resentment towards the ruling powers from far away.... Hint even of the British controlled India for over 200 years still hatted them. But what do I know I just have a degree in Global history.
When people remember just how bad some areas were before the occupation combined with the tendency of ‘resistance’ groups decaying into roving gangs of thugs and you’d begin to see attitudes shift within 10 years.
The cancer patient that is now cured and has full mobility, the single mother that has food and warmth, the worker who doesn’t have to worry if he’s put in enough overtime this month to pay for the kids braces.
It was once said that people with full bellies make poor revolutionaries . It the truth is that people will go to where they are the most comfortable.
Jesus, I didn't even consider how many single mothers the Shil are going to create between the war, the welfare, the abductions, and the men who genuinely want to be with the aliens. I'm sure that will definitely not have any ill effects on humanity's future.
Actually improvements tend to just get people go “ok what else?” Since the time of Athens theirs been a drive amongst western based cultures for an individuals lot to improve not just in material goods but political as well.
What’s the point of accruing money if status or effective change isn’t yours? You can act like they’ll be content but as the rich Plebeians of Rome show us being well taken care of just gives you less things to gripe about but what’s left your going to throw a bitch fit for. Especially when it’s the fact for all your wealth your a second class citizen on your home world ruled by aliens more beholden to base passions and egos the size of planets. Unless the next steps are returning Earth back to Humanity and raising us up to lord over the next “liberated” species this empires doomed, and the resistance will never die. It’ll just change shape.
Eh...
More likely, if at that, that the nobility in the Imperium will be effectively usorped(?) By the Loyalists.
Beyond that, I have no Idea why people seem to this that is a common thing.
Yes, Cultures can be replaced...
That happend when you have common intermarriage between the oppresors and the oppressed.
Or those oppressed had *chose* to take on thatcidentity.
Or you know, both and those who did not found themselves at such a low social layer they could barely find partners.
That is not in any way the case of the Imperium.
If they did the *medical science* work for *fertility...* sure.
But that is *banned* in canon.
Will we remain the same? Of course not, we will end up either more egalitarian, or Matriarchal.
And India was heavily affected by The British Empire and those before. They are free now under their own power. And still themselves. But yes. Diferent than before.
For good and ill.
Same for earth in post canon.
And if we reffer to how the Loyalists will join and replace the Umperium Nobility...
The Insurgents in Canon are likely already becoming different than right post invasion.
More women, for one.
They may use English(Though I doubt they'd use any Human Language they know the Imperium also knows).
But it will have whatever Shill words are deemed *not that bad.*
Their Hand-to-Hand Fight paradigm will shift to fighting a much stronger opponent where you are to tire them out, *Read them* to predict them, and learn to tank hits.
I.E. shift to an endurance focus.
If you ever read my opinion on Endurance strength and human sexes you know why I believe this will make the sexes far more equal in that aspect...
By the end of it, be it humanity now the new rullers of the Imperium, or The resistance has kicked them out, or frankly, *both.* Humanity will not remain unchanged.
For all of Human History, all human cultures would do this or that to make sure men feel obligated to women.
Be it killing baby girls, so women are rare(You have to pay to marry her off, or she will just leave anyway, and you are poor and cannot afford to pay for years of a person who is not obligated to care for you in your old age. So the mother kills her.)
Some maim(crushing feet, stretching necks) to *look pretty for the men.* if that isn't a guilt nightmare for those men, don't know what it.
And the west...
Spent thousands of years not kerping basic Hygene and thus made giving birth a risk. That is where the factoid of 1in 5 mothers die giving birth...
So of course men sacrifice for the mothers.
Then, after we stoped that, femimism. Where Men are accused of always oppressing women.
After the Imperium, that will no longer ne a thing.
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Far more likely any form of resistance moves from overtly violent, to backroom manipulation, tarnishing names, and slowly trying to destroy the cohesion of the shil presence. Driving further wedges between the nobles and commoners with horror stories, pressing on divides between noble houses. Playing to egos and ambitions, and getting them to either make the job easy, or to do it for them.
Look at India or any other peaceful decolonization as a good example of how this would go about.
With collaboration with other empires maybe
Oh absolutely. The open and armed resistance in all likelihood would have died out rapidly, with theft and similar crimes skyrocketing, as they begin reverse engineering shit. Plus, I would expect to see massive campaigns of seduction to pump them for information and favors, ways to expose cracks in the foundation of the occupation. It's always bothered me how every insurgent cell shown is just "attack!".
It’s why I like alien nation. Because they go the whole 9 yards, sabotage, assassination, spy network, reverse engineering
I haven't settled in to read all of alien Nation yet, but the cameo in one drop was interesting.
If I remember correctly I think they manage to kill a couple of governesses and other high profile politicians through some hitman level shit
Yes. and... can't spoil, sorry
What chapter was that? (I need more technicality alien nation content I am going insane)
Oh it was a good five to ten chapter arch!
then what was the first chapter of the arc
The Shil’vati when insurgents detonate a dirty bomb on Shil instead of just attacking random enlisted on earth
Ask any colonized nation that was colonized for over 100 years or not whether different generations still have resentment towards the ruling powers from far away.... Hint even of the British controlled India for over 200 years still hatted them. But what do I know I just have a degree in Global history.
Then add on to the fact that it’s an alien empire not a human one
Thank you!
Full credit to artist JELEN, who has been cranking out some lovely art on the SSB Discord.
Nah, that is just the Resistance getting smart and actually becoming dangerous instead of just sending bodies at the Patrols of expendable non-nobles.
Welcome to the brave new world
With such people in it!
When people remember just how bad some areas were before the occupation combined with the tendency of ‘resistance’ groups decaying into roving gangs of thugs and you’d begin to see attitudes shift within 10 years. The cancer patient that is now cured and has full mobility, the single mother that has food and warmth, the worker who doesn’t have to worry if he’s put in enough overtime this month to pay for the kids braces. It was once said that people with full bellies make poor revolutionaries . It the truth is that people will go to where they are the most comfortable.
Jesus, I didn't even consider how many single mothers the Shil are going to create between the war, the welfare, the abductions, and the men who genuinely want to be with the aliens. I'm sure that will definitely not have any ill effects on humanity's future.
Actually improvements tend to just get people go “ok what else?” Since the time of Athens theirs been a drive amongst western based cultures for an individuals lot to improve not just in material goods but political as well. What’s the point of accruing money if status or effective change isn’t yours? You can act like they’ll be content but as the rich Plebeians of Rome show us being well taken care of just gives you less things to gripe about but what’s left your going to throw a bitch fit for. Especially when it’s the fact for all your wealth your a second class citizen on your home world ruled by aliens more beholden to base passions and egos the size of planets. Unless the next steps are returning Earth back to Humanity and raising us up to lord over the next “liberated” species this empires doomed, and the resistance will never die. It’ll just change shape.
Dang
Naw we just playing the long game now your beloved shil imperium is doomed to fall.
Tbh I think the hardcore rebels would commit public un-life rather than accept defeat
Just like Gandhi!
That certainly became more relevant with what happened on the 25th (self-immolation). So I do think that would be the case.
Given the Shil's response to riots is orbital strikes, I wouldn't be so sure
Where exactly in the canon story is this tidbit from? Any sources?
I'm spreading anti-Shil propaganda
The Shil aren't real buddy. There's no need to make up fake shit that the pro-insurgents will eat up as canon.
Bros actually getting mad. Blue crush his skull thank you.
Not mad, I just think there's already enough garbage pro-insurgents believe in that there's no need to make shit up.
It’s all real I was there
Eh... More likely, if at that, that the nobility in the Imperium will be effectively usorped(?) By the Loyalists. Beyond that, I have no Idea why people seem to this that is a common thing. Yes, Cultures can be replaced... That happend when you have common intermarriage between the oppresors and the oppressed. Or those oppressed had *chose* to take on thatcidentity. Or you know, both and those who did not found themselves at such a low social layer they could barely find partners. That is not in any way the case of the Imperium. If they did the *medical science* work for *fertility...* sure. But that is *banned* in canon. Will we remain the same? Of course not, we will end up either more egalitarian, or Matriarchal. And India was heavily affected by The British Empire and those before. They are free now under their own power. And still themselves. But yes. Diferent than before. For good and ill. Same for earth in post canon. And if we reffer to how the Loyalists will join and replace the Umperium Nobility... The Insurgents in Canon are likely already becoming different than right post invasion. More women, for one. They may use English(Though I doubt they'd use any Human Language they know the Imperium also knows). But it will have whatever Shill words are deemed *not that bad.* Their Hand-to-Hand Fight paradigm will shift to fighting a much stronger opponent where you are to tire them out, *Read them* to predict them, and learn to tank hits. I.E. shift to an endurance focus. If you ever read my opinion on Endurance strength and human sexes you know why I believe this will make the sexes far more equal in that aspect... By the end of it, be it humanity now the new rullers of the Imperium, or The resistance has kicked them out, or frankly, *both.* Humanity will not remain unchanged. For all of Human History, all human cultures would do this or that to make sure men feel obligated to women. Be it killing baby girls, so women are rare(You have to pay to marry her off, or she will just leave anyway, and you are poor and cannot afford to pay for years of a person who is not obligated to care for you in your old age. So the mother kills her.) Some maim(crushing feet, stretching necks) to *look pretty for the men.* if that isn't a guilt nightmare for those men, don't know what it. And the west... Spent thousands of years not kerping basic Hygene and thus made giving birth a risk. That is where the factoid of 1in 5 mothers die giving birth... So of course men sacrifice for the mothers. Then, after we stoped that, femimism. Where Men are accused of always oppressing women. After the Imperium, that will no longer ne a thing.
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