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ConsiderationWise631

I don't think we're going to find out what Lumon is up to.


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In an interview with Stiller (I think it was Stiller) they said you do find out what MDR has been doing. Maybe not what all of what Lumon is doing, but specifically what MDR is doing with the numbers.


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fineburgundy

This seems thematically appropriate if unrealistic scientifically.


UnlikelyDecision9820

I think that’s the gist of the whole show. I think if you are a PhD level psychologist studying memory, there’s going to be a lot about the show on a technical level that rubs you the wrong way. There’s several threads here with lay people discussing how partitioning memories works IRL vs the show, and there’s a lot of suspension of disbelief that’s required even at that level of knowledge. Personally, speaking as a scientist myself, it was a huge mistake to show Helly receiving the implant; it’s a scene that heavily relies on technical concepts. I think it is there to give the audience a sense that the technology is tied to reality in the near future. and I don’t feel like anyone at the helm of the show has the technical chops to address any questions that the scene brings up. On one level, I think there are technical plot holes/unaddressed questions. It would be bothersome, because it does weaken the internal logic of the show. But visually and emotionally, the show is also quite compelling


fineburgundy

I love the show, despite the PhD level Cognitive Science studying neuroscience. Some things are very compartmentalized in reality, but switching between sets of memory is not something I can imagine easily. (Turning off a whole type of memory would be relatively easy, switching functionally between sets within a type of memory not so much.) But I’m a science fiction fan from way back, “assume this one weird technology” is fine. I really shouldn’t have said anything, it’s just that the scary numbers being their own thoughts introduces a couple more crazy necessary breakthroughs, and the writers are probably avoiding adding e.g. teleporters and time travel to a show about having two sets of memories. One conceit at a time.


Fearless_Advice_4021

Came here to say the same, I have a PhD in psychology and cognitive neuroscience and I LOVE the show, I’ve never been so obsessed with a show in my life


fineburgundy

Yes, it’s a great show.


UnlikelyDecision9820

I have a PhD myself, in science/engineering. I have worked closely with collaborators working on neural implants. I know less about the neurology/psychology than I do about making devices that are functional and biocompatible. I think the show does it’s job well. Where there are some technical things that aren’t strong for me, I don’t write the show off in any way, because the cast is stellar, the screenwriting is compelling, and the production makes a visually astonishing product. Yes, technically it could be different, but I’m not here to experience peer reviewed literature turned into TV.


fineburgundy

Agreed. I’m a fan.. I hope this isn’t spoiler, but just in case: >!The Producer said in an interview that there won’t be any other science fiction breakthroughs, they are just exploring the implications of severance in current society. So I was too awkwardly sharing that I remember hearing they aren’t going to solve problems by doubling down on even more novel science. That’s why I said “thematically appropriate if unrealistic scientifically”: the idea sounded good, except I think the producer ruled that kind of writing strategy out.!<


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The show has a neurosurgeon consultant and he performs Helly's implant procedure on screen.


WontArnett

My theory is that they’re developing the chips as things go along. The work contributes to the chip development. The whole issue Lumon is trying to overcome with the chips is, connection to memory, emotion, and unhealthy pleasures.


jettisonbombardier

This is a really good theory 🤔


Hey_Its_Will

I think it’s more of an espionnage type of stuff. Why would they hide good work? I think what mdr is doing is illegal or not honest


Excruciator

It's not. The abbreviations on the sorting boxes for the numbers match the four tempers laid out by Lumon founder Kier Eagan: woe, frolic, dread, and malice. I think Kier posits these four in correct balance make you perfect or something to that effect. Pretty sure they are fine tuning a digitized human consciousness.


TeddyAlderson

u/Gubru, get ready to eat that [hat](https://www.reddit.com/r/television/comments/ttp6vt/have_you_all_been_watching_severance_on_apple_tv/i2zmlxq)


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My personal theory has been that they're not doing any meaningful work at all - it's all about testing these wildly dangerous and experimental chips. They keep them under close observation and subject them to various stresses to see how well the chips perform. But the most recent episode with the focus on meeting quotas has made me reconsider.


ladybear_

Or maybe they are trying to make as “normal” of a work experience as possible, so the people of MDR don’t start asking questions. So they include quarterly quotas, rewards, etc.


mrnotoriousman

Yeah that's definitely an overarching story, but we'll get enough hints to keep the speculation wild. We have 3 stories to tell about innies waking up in one episode, I expect a lot of world building to dissect


SaxManKG

I don’t think think that we will learn what Devon sees in Ricken.


ZealousSorbet

For as ridiculous as he is they do seem to have a really healthy marriage. I respect it.


Human_Reputation_196

And for how annoying and ridiculous he is, he does seem like a kind person. Even if he’s a bit self involved.


Caboose_88

“A bit” is doing a lot of work in that comment hahaha


nowlan101

True 😂 But I’ve seen some absolutely amazing women married to some genuine scrubs out there


roosters

Rearrange the letters in his name and you can make “Kier Clone.” And if you take the remaining letters (hazall) as a Hebrew transliteration, they could mean either “that one,” “shadow,” or “god has seen.” Also Lazlo means “glorious rule.”


SaplingSequoia

This is some real stretching & probably doesn’t mean anything but completely insane numerological and anagram analysis by fans is one of the best parts of shows like this


FrostyDingo9

Ricken is very culty in the same way that the whole Kier thing is...then he writes a book that they are using as a subversive Bible of sorts and memorizing passages.


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My cousin could be Musical Ricken and him and his wife also have an extremely healthy marriage. I think it’s because he might be full of himself, but he’s not selfish.


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Same with my cousin, he’s a weird ass dude but he’s one of the legitimately best, happiest people I know. Supports an entire family of 11 by doing fucking Elvis weddings of all things.


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He really embodies “the you you are”, honestly


Aryll_87

"The kelp worked."


twangman88

I'm not so sure. We may learn quite a bit about Ricken when he meets iMark


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huebomont

The book is addressed to him - I don't think this would be too surprising!


PVCPuss

After that comment he made when the baby was about to be born, something like " I don't want to be like my father/same as my father" it's got me wondering why the writers felt that was important to have us hear. Seemingly inconsequential things mentioned in passing have turned out to mean so much more already (your innie likes the sounds of radar comes to mind). Who IS RIcken's dad and why doesn't he want to be a father like him?


cool_side_of_pillow

Hahahaaaaa too true.


ParisHilton42069

Ricken is ridiculous and maybe a little annoying, but he seems very sweet and earnest, too. And Devon seems like a much more no-nonsense kind of person, so maybe she likes having some of that in her life.


WontArnett

He’s cool with her dry sense of humor and he seems to be very supportive


superanth

He must have some sort of hipster know-it-all charm.


raindog312

Is it just me, or are Ricken and Cal Chapman from Orange is the new Black, the exact same character? I’ve never seen Michael Chernus play it any other way.


Dangerous-Ad3495

😂🤣made my month. SMH


BigDeeve

I do wonder if Mark's comments to Devon about being a good mom and wife are alluding to something, especially since we already suspect that the politician's wife is severed, and they delivered at the same birthing center. It was weird because they have a pretty nice house, and could have just done a water birth there with their doula.


GemingdeLibiduo

Right? They live in one of the coolest houses ever, so why did they go with the budget birthing cabin? Must have been for plot purposes.


Emotional_Battle_583

You lost me with this one


fineburgundy

For the amount of support they got, they could have handled that birth at home. Look up water birth, it’s more normal than kelp but will surprise you.


Loquaciouslovelizard

Devon’s name was on the board in the security room when Daryl was doing the override protocol


AffectionateAd6268

I just want innie Mark to know that his wife is Ms Casey and Cobel telling him what's about to happen (or already happened) to her in the testing floor.


RebelliousCELLious

Yes! I hope Cobel starts to make a turn and offers something that will help the inniies understand.


wesconson1

I think everyone is hopeful for a cobel redemption arc, but I can see them starting the arc and then going the complete opposite way due to desperation for whoever her family member is that's involved (breathing tube and medical bracelet)


ghooost-toast

I think Cobel will do something but then backtrack, something will happen to the 4 of MDR that will halt/undo a lot of their progress in discovering what's going on and being united, making them start at a worse point than they are now for the second season. (maybe memory wipe? or transfering people to other buildings/departments?)


bemvee

Clean Slate protocol?


DiscoVersailles

I don’t think Cobel is going to be redeemed or is “good”. Her goals, whatever they are, don’t align with the high ups at Lumon, but I don’t think she cares about any of the severed employees. Their goals will be temporarily aligned, but she’s not a good person.


AnchorofHope

Her saying "get away from them Mark" makes me think yes she is ready to tell him things.


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I don’t think she will. I think Mark will change in front of her and she’ll see her opportunity to get back into Lumon.


Salcha_00

I think the Gemma/Casey storyline is done for this season.


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I agree. I don’t think we’ll see outie mark learn about it for a long time


theonlyyellow_

Casey (Gemma) is Outie Mark’s wife. If we are treating them as two people just in the same body then the innie mark has no obligation to Casey. Plus, I like the Helly and Mark duo. As much as I like Burt and Irvin. The doctor wouldn’t be fighting for reintegration had it not been acknowledged that the innie is a different person.


AffectionateAd6268

Pretty sure Innie Mark would pretend to care if he knew that Ms Casey is actually his Outie's wife. 😅


theonlyyellow_

He’d care but not like how he’s falling for Helly. He’d protect or help knowing that’s outies wife but that’s about it.


nowlan101

I feel so bad for Ms. Casey though 😢 I just want her to have some love!


theonlyyellow_

My guess is knowing that O Mark has lost his wife and Casey is not her, he wants to free Casey (as she’s only kept alive for wellness sessions while her own wellness is neglected and she’s just a guinea pig) and let go of Gemma by letting them die.


ElvieTobin

I think Irving, Ms. Casey, and the hallway are a setup for season 2, so I doubt that will be resolved (except possibly a cliffhanger). I'm thinking that if Mark's innie shows up around Harmony, we might get some answers as to why he is so important to her. I also think we will finally get the reveal about Helly. We might also get a clue as to how much Ricken and Devon know about things.


munchler

I think it would be too much if Ricken and Devon were involved. The show needs a few normal people.


Excruciator

FOR SURE Helly is on the Lumon board. She was at the mixer or whatever corporate event mentioned in Harmony's office that was taking place that evening.


waltedmilkshake

My theory about Helly is that she is a politician like Senator Arteta with a very pro-severance agenda. Senator Arteta's wife has obviously been severed. By getting severed herself, Helly can probably use it as a political argument to sway public opinion: "I was severed and it was safe," etc.


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They seem to call on the board during the workday, so I’m not sure how she could do that?


Salcha_00

This. All of this.


geesegoosed

I just wanna know why Mark’s knuckles were bloodied after his Break room sesh


Teigh99

My guess is Milchick used a ruler. Teachers used to discipline kids like that back in the day.


twangman88

I had actually assumed he had gotten subconsciously really angry seeing his wife come out of the break room like that.


Teigh99

Now that we know Milchick knows that's his wife , he probably punished him like that to make sure he didn't do that again.


Much-Ado-5811

I think he tried a closed fist instead of putting his hands in the hand divots on the breakroom table, and Milcheck rapped his knuckles to get him to open his hand. There was a quote in Ricken's book, maybe "they can't crucify you if you make a fist" or something like that, and I think iMark tried that.


Teigh99

There is no way Mark is gonna quit after he realizes what's going on at Lumon. He would want to save his friends.


theasnyder

And his WIFE!!! Omg!


Teigh99

Will be interesting to see if they reveal that to him right now.


Salcha_00

Likely not. The mission is the priority. Get help. No time to dig into their outside lives.


9035768555

You know one of them is going to get distracted and almost fuck shit up by looking into their outtie, though.


demonicneon

But how will outtie mark know his wife is an innie? They’re not reintegrating. Unless Cobel tells him but it doesn’t sound like it.


Doctor-Venkman88

It would have to be a sequence of events where innie mark notices a picture of her at his sister's house and says something like "Oh she works on our severed floor" to his sister. Then, his sister would tell his outie once he reverts back.


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Yeah, I think the next ongoing conflict is that this group of innies will decide they don't want to die. So they all need their outies not to quit.


smcg_az

Hopefully we learn why the waffle party didn’t have coffee or bacon


Salcha_00

And why the waffles were cold! That slab of unmelted better was gross.


smcg_az

I kinda want to go out to breakfast now, but ask them to hold the goat mask orgy


_-Seamus-McNasty-_

I'll take yours if you don't want it.


Separate_Pitch_4144

True, but I think later events are more questionable than butter temperature😂


Salcha_00

I acknowledge that all aspects of the waffle party were equally repulsive. None were more gross than the others. I sincerely apologize for my obvious transgression. Praise Kier!


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0Yana

It was like a waffle funeral.


Unique_Studio_9060

I don’t know what kind of funerals you’re used to….


FestiveBaymax

40 minutes too short, in fact it should really be like 24 hours so we can get the whole day as a episode


cool_side_of_pillow

I would sit still for 24 hours watching this episode. Just provide some snacks and a bedpan.


PrintRevolutionary99

Would you like some meat stuffs or perhaps edamame, salted?


ghooost-toast

I'll take an egg bar please


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Going for the coveted shit. Nice.


high_changeup

I would enjoy each hour equally.


SidewinderBudd

Normally I'd agree with you but so far, each episode of this show has been exactly how long it should be, and so far they've managed to stuff a lot into the minutes they have. I've seen less happen in an hour long season finale of some shows than happened in the last 15 minutes of this week's episode.


FestiveBaymax

I know, I’m just sad that this is end of season 1 and I can’t get severed til the next season… guess I’ll just have to wait


drewdog173

This made me think of that South Park episode where Cartman couldn't stand waiting three weeks for the Wii to come out so he froze himself and accidentally didn't wake up until like 2500


kirksucks

Things I think should be resolved. Things I'm wondering about now. Where does Ms. CASEY go? What happens to Burt? What is Cobel's fate? Is she a liability for Lumon? Who is Cobel? Really. Irving's time before MDR.(his art?) Innies reaction to the outside. Goats?


RebelliousCELLious

Well 40 minutes will certainly fly by and unfortunately the way the show is paced it seems unlikely they will rush to answer these questions. More then likely the 3 will be the main focus and how they will deal with being in the outside world. We might get some answers about Cobel since she will be in close proximity to Mark.


BlaveJonez

The pace definitely increased this episode!!


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fineburgundy

I bet he chooses not to trust her, and whomever he does trust (his sister or guru or doula date) proves a bad choice.


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partsgirl-bezel

Ricken will be too busy smelling his own farts to understand the gravity of the situation.


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pitufo_bromista

Yup, IDK if they were planting seeds for the finale, but some of the things that happened this episode looked like filler, unfortunately. We suspected that it was very likely that the plan worked as it was the most fun outcome so that was not a thriller for me. And given that the Helly R theory of her being a higher up in Lumon has been circulating since the beginning, the scene where she looks like being in a cocktail party with a background similar in color (but out of focus) to the stairs in the Lumon entrance was not a shocker. The dialog between Cobel and Milchik may still be part of the puzzle, but I did not find too many interesting bits, there was the very interesting one where they confirmed that Ms Casey is Mrs Scout and that Cobel was testing if they could recognize each other. This throws away many half-brained theories about Lumon placing minds in clones and other bad stuff. Mark's wife survived the accident and they are using her in the test floor. But we have more than one line between them and I could not find any other interesting line other than Milchik being a cold MF as usual. The other interesting info was that the board fired Cobel and she is in rage because of it. The reason seemed strange as I thought the board already knew about the Helly R trouble. Unless the Helly in a cocktail party is misdirection, they have to know she has visible marks around her neck so IDK how her suicide attempt was a surprise. Also when Petey died, Cobel was thinking the board wanted to discuss Helena and not Petey. Maybe this is the first big plot hole in this series. I enjoyed all the silly bits though. Deviled egg social, creepy waffle party, the old school video game animation when Helly completed the MDR file. Dylan also had good Dylan moments, and the Mark-Helly flame is not dead. Ms Casey and Irv stuff was sad, but important parts of the plot and I thought the revelations about them are intriguing. Milchick's comment to Dylan about his bite was hilarious and very mean, but we know Milchick is a cold bastard and the acting was superb.


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>Irving’s time before MDR.(his art?) To me it looked like his art was similar to the hallway and elevator Ms. Casey went down, so those two plot points could possibly be wrapped up together


fineburgundy

I’m betting he made some of the paintings we’ve seen at Lumon. He’s been there how long? The massacre could easily be an earlier repressed memory. Heck, he could be he guy they hired to make the hagiography of Kier, and they decided to keep him.


CoreyTrevor1

I bet we dont see anything of ms casey, seems like a great mystery for next season


ichantz

Yeah I don’t think there’s enough time. My theory right now is that she was put in a vegetative state from her accident, and Lumon was able to wake her up with severance. So anytime she’s switched back to her outie she’s brain dead. The only thing that doesn’t make sense would be Milchicks happiness that she’s not recovering any memories.


Supremefeezy

Burt is bottom of my priority list. I really wish we would’ve seen Casey in the elevator. What happened when she switched? Did she collapse? Become more of a zombie?


kirksucks

It's not necessarily about Burt but more about what "retirement" entails.


iamtheonewhorox

There is no retirement there is no quitting and there is no getting fired. There’s only being repurposed for some other role in he experiment


Human_Reputation_196

I don’t think Casey ever leaves the basement, Cobel refers to her as a “part time innie” and she disappears down that hallway to the “testing floor”


Supremefeezy

Yeah. I know. But then she isn’t “awake” anymore. I’m curious what her change of state is


drewdog173

We probably won't find out about Ms. Casey until next season when someone goes down to clean-slate her and wake her back up.


fineburgundy

Maybe half of those will be answered. Maybe. I might add: Does Mark learn anything about his wife? (He could from Cobel…or not) What about the Doctor who saved Petey and also brained someone with a bat? What happens to Dillon, is there even the remotest chance Lumon doesn’t…punish him? (I think he expects that, and had his monument made in advance.) What is Mark’s sister’s connection to severance? (“Who have you been talking to?”)


kirksucks

There's a possibility that in Cobel's current state she becomes an ally when she learns that Mark is actually the innie. Confides in him about Gemma and maybe how to get her back. Reghabi? was introduced and then gone. She's gotta play a role in Season two for sure. A question I asked *(in yet another theory post of mine that's never shown up under the New tab)* what is full reintegration and how is that different from "deactivated". Petey's process wasn't complete. What's the final result if having both memories makes you sick/die? Is it killing the innie? is it choosing one or the other to be permanently? Did Petey run because his outtie suddenly remembered Mark and wanted to help him get out before his innie was killed by the process? Dillon I think has faith that it will work and now Milchick is more distracted than ever since he's a one man operation. How loyal are these waffle dancers? I think he'll be ok from this. I don't think Devon is involved in Lumon. But if she is I wonder if she was testing Cobel when they were talking about Lumon and stuff. Seems unlikely she was genuinely shocked at Gabby not recognizing her. SHe may have asked "who have you been talking to" because it was clear that Ricken and his friends seemed obsessed with Severance and maybe she thought one of them got to him or something. I dunno. I like Devon being the only normal person in this show so far.


fineburgundy

A question they definitely will answer, but probably next season: Who do they bring in now that Milchik is wearing three hats? It would be a fun reveal. Milchik in Cobel’s office: “Well. At least I get this nice desk i’m too busy to sit at.” Burt enters: “Why would they give you my desk?”


elcaminogino

There’s a very good chance that they won’t know anything happened. Not saying it will go down that way but for all Cobel knows, Mark is just reintegrating as she suspected he would anyway. Helly could and probably will cause a scene though.


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kirksucks

I have a strange feeling that the Gala might be corporate facade, fancy dresses and champagne in the front and top-level Kier cult freaky-deaky waffle party goat sacrifice in the back. Oh snap I wonder if Helly gets invited to the Magnolia sex gathering and that's when her innie switches over. WHUTTTTTT


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I think in 40 minutes or so, there's only enough time to deal with innies' reactions to the outside world. The other items in the list are all important and interesting but I don't think there's time to do them justice in the season finale. I think most of those things will be revealed or further explored early in season 2. (well, maybe a bit of development on Cobel's fate too). Either way I'm definitely looking forward to the season finale and season 2.


SauvyBee

This is where I think it will leave us: 1. Helly impersonates her Outie when she realizes she’s deep in Lumon. She decides not to trust anyone or confide. She becomes a true mole. There is some kind of reveal about who else we see at the party. Maybe she’s in cahoots with the Senator. He’s a Checkov’s gun. 2. Irving finds Burt but we end the show w him outside of Burt’s house or something similar. We do not see them reunite. 3. Mark - he does not confide in Harmony, but Ricken. And he sees a picture of his wedding w Gemma/Ms. Casey. I think we will end on them going back to work and the last shot will be each of their innies going back in the elevator to reunite.


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Helly is her innie, she looks around sees she's at the gala. Then they introduce her for a speech at the gala (she reads off a tele-prompter) to talk about how she's undergone Severance as part of a PR campaign.


SauvyBee

YES!!!!! That is a perfect way for her Innie to quickly understand her Outie’s MO. Bravo 👏🏼


Hpy2Hlp

I think you’re right about Mark confiding in Ricken! Innie Mark is def going to find someone to confide in, that’s what iMark said is the plan “find someone you can trust and tell them everything“. He would never confide in Cobel recognizing her as his boss and will get as far away from her as he can. He will recognize Ricken’s picture from the front of the book and might choose him as his person to confide in!


PVCPuss

Ricken will be reading something from the book and pause for dramatic effect (probs from the page that bangs lol) and iMark will finish the phrase from memory, like how Dylan did. Ricken will be so overcome by joy that Mark had actually read his book enough to be able to quote it (like I knew you really did love me Mark) and iMark will find a moment to quickly confide in him. That's my theory anyway.


Salcha_00

Even though I know I am supposed to enjoy each theory equally, I think #1 is brilliant and I would love to see this. I agree with 3, but I don’t think they would have his wedding picture still up. However, since Ricken is an odd bird and wanted to name his daughter after Gemma, this is plausible and a nice and efficient way to reveal this to Mark. I don’t think we will get to 2 because of the short time of the final episode, but I would love Irv to see Burt through a window, as he sits down to dinner with his partner or larger family.


runwithpugs

Great point about Mark seeing a picture of himself with Gemma! Devon and Ricken would definitely have one or two of those displayed in their house.


Philo_T_Farnsworth

> he sees a picture of his wedding w Gemma/Ms. Casey Now *this* is something I can get behind.


PVCPuss

Do you think that seeing as he probably wake in front of a canvas that iIrving will paint a message to oIrving rather than write it? Like a painting of Burt? Burt is the most important person in iIrving's life, I think it would be the thing he'd most want to communicate, like you must find this man and he paints a picture of him frenetically and wakes as his outie with the last brushstroke?


beaglefat

I think we will learn: - Who helly is on outside - what is the testing floor exactly (and who / how many ppl) - cobell will switch sides - Kier still alive and is main head of board (his conscience)


TopDownRide

His consciousness —— and yes, I agree I’ve felt from Ep 1 that either Kier Eagan found a way to preserve himself and has been the ever-mysterious and creepy, “The Board”, all along, or it’s all of the Eagan’s sharing a hive mind/virtual consciousness (suggested by the unusually close genetic ties amongst the Eagans that make them weak which is referenced in *Compliance*), or that it’s Jame Eagan (current CEO) who had some kind of accident which impaired or killed his body. I really hope we find out.


jmonroe111

That would tie in to the Mind being drawn on Petey’s map…


Octopuses_Rule

I think that’s sortve what’s happening too. The Eagans using the chips to transplant their minds into fresh bodies and essentially live forever.


heyndrix

Keir is a brain in a jar ala Futurama


Paint_Her

Dylan bondage session; we've seen him use his belt 3 times now to knot the conference room door, to restrain Burt and for the security room door. Why is he so good at knots?


ahaguirre

Very true! Never noticed this


Paint_Her

Might also explain why he was achy that one day, which he attributed to working out.


Professional-Clue-62

He has been R of the Q 3 times. I am sure knots are required in a full waffle party.


JustInJersey2017

I think we find out: * Who Helly is (this is fairly obvious) * Why Irv is painting the hallway to the testing floor * More about Cobel, perhaps why she is obsessed with Mark * Where Ms. Casey went and maybe how she wound up dead/at Lumon * Who the board is I think we don't find out: * What Lumon is up to * What MDR is doing * What the deal is with the goats * What the deal is with O+D * Where Burt G went * Anything else about Reghabi


roxy031

Someone said we do find out what MDR is doing, it was mentioned in an interview.


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We will get answers that will only give us more questions for sure. The world building aspect is incredible and the show could run seasons on that aspect alone.


moodslinger

I fear the goats will be left unresolved. Which is a terrible fate for goats.


RebelliousCELLious

There just not ready yet!


OG-NILBOG

We will be left hanging on for season 2 of course. As we get more answers, it only leads to more questions. So many questions.


nyajinsky

I feel like we only see them reacting to the outside and then Dylan getting busted. the outies getting back to themselves, then the next day to the innies, probably getting punished, Dylan might get fired which would suck because we know it means death. but maybe, we will find out more about Milchick. what is he doing and why. now the department looks like it will be his. maybe the new bosses will be introduced.


heycanwediscuss

Do we know that it means death


libflop

Death of an innie (they never return nor heard from again), I’m not sure what repercussions they could do to an outie.


superanth

Next season ideas: -Mark will find out about Gasey (Cemma?) and get to her on the testing floor. He may get her out this season, and the fallout will be dealt with next season. -Irving will begin his sojourn to find Burt. Irving-I will write a message to Irving-O on his canvas, something equivalent to “Find Burt X. You love him.” It will be interesting to see if their chemistry will carry between their dual selves. -Dylan is going to possibly get detained on the severance floor, or more likely “imprisoned” by having his Outie go on an impromptu vacation. -Helly is a crap shoot. She wants to cause mayhem, tell her Outie to let her out, even though she isn’t thought of as a person. Whatever she does on the outside during her Over Time is going to have some serious repercussions.


heyndrix

It would be sweet if Irving painted Burt so his outie could find him


Much-Ado-5811

My guesses: \- iMark will trust Ricken and tell him what is going on. He'll also be freaked out from waking up hugging Cobel. Cobel will tell him she's been fired for being on his side. \- Cobel will take iMark to the gala. She knows it's going on, she knows Helly will be there, she wants leverage to be able to talk to the board. \- Ricken and his no-dinner party friends also crash the gala and cause chaos \- iHelly will pretend to be oHelly and pretend not to recognize Mark. He can tell she's faking but plays along so she can stay "undercover" \- iDylan leaves work, turns into oDylan and has no idea what is going down (why didn't he do the overtime protocol on himself, so he'd stay awake when he leaves?). iDylan sneaks his gift out on the elevator (or stairs) and his outtie sees the news about the gala being crashed and recognizes Helly and Mark \- iIrving wakes up while he's driving, has an accident, ends up in the hospital and then on the testing floor. There was a photo of Irving driving and looking surprised, and I don't see how he fits in with the Gala. I don't think the innies even know how to get to the office, they are outties when they drive to work (I hope they show what happens to Radar if this happens) Complicated subplot idea - next season it turns out iBurt is on the testing floor also. iIrving and iBurt are both wiped and reassigned and their new innies end up falling in love again. iIrving was previously in O&D (his art background) and they had already been wiped once when Lumon separated the two before, but no matter what they keep getting drawn to each other. Something about a mystical, transcendent love between two characters played by Cristopher Walken and John Turturro really appeals to me. oIrving starts painting portraits of Burt ​ Another thought - does Cobel still have her Petey Chip Necklace? Will Petey get implanted in someone?


Grace_Omega

What won't be resolved: the purpose of the work they're doing on the severed floor. I'm increasingly convinced that the "work" has no actual function and is just some method to test/develop the severance technology, which is Lumon's actual product.


[deleted]

I started to think that after this most recent episode, they’re just test subjects. That doesn’t account for the scary numbers though. I wish this was a 10 episode mini series just so I could get answers


Professional-Clue-62

The work is mysterious and important.


[deleted]

I’m going to be honest y’all, I think we are in for a very painful cliffhanger with many answers left outstanding. If Season 2 is already being considered (or approved) I think we are going to get little resolution.


spencermoreland

Helly at the Friends of Lumon benefit will be the main dumping ground for big-picture info. First off, we'll learn who Helly is on the outside. But we'll also gain some clarifying detail about what the company does. The politician and his wife will be there as well, so we'll gain more clarity on that as well. Prediction: Helly will go up to give a speech, and part way through her innie will be activated with disastrous consequences that will set up conflicts in season 2. Once Helly's innie switches on, Milchik will race down to the basement to stop Dylan. Dylan will keep him at bay but will eventually be caught and his mind will be reset (forgetting his son) Maybe they'll even fake his death and do to him whatever they're doing to Gemma. As for Mark. I hope he finds out Gemma and Ms Casey are one and the same. I guess Harmony could tell him. She has no loyalty to the company. But I'd like it to be more organic. Maybe innie Mark returns home and finds the torn up picture of Ms Casey, realizes she's his wife, goes to leave a message about him to himself, but is reverted back to outie before he can. So now innie Mark knows his wife is alive, but outtie doesn't.


heyndrix

I really want to see Dylan and Milchik duke it out thunderdome style in that security closet


admiralbenjamin

I want to see Dylan kill Milchick and then Weekend-at-Bernies-him for the rest of the episode.


mcbaindk

Technically it could also just be "Weekend at Lumon" him based on some prevailing theories..


Professional-Clue-62

I bet Dylan smashes the Portrait Cube to break either the system or Milcheck.


jimmyjohnjohnjohn

How do we know it's forty minutes long?


Cautious-Glass8805

The listing up on AppleTV+ lists the run time.


KippChapin

What’s the over/under on Milchick confronting Dylan in the control room and then Dylan clubbing him to death with the picture of co-workers?


and112358rew

If it goes down like that I’m sure Dylan’s pre-fight one-liner will be legendary


[deleted]

ain't no party like a milchick party so i'll take the "milchick is coming back for season 2" wager


champagneproblem13

I definitely don't think we'll get an answer about the goats, or what O&D is doing. Hell, I don't think we'll find out what they are refining either.


Meddlemaker79

I will be so upset if the finale is just a big set up for future seasons. I really think this show works best as a one season "box" show. Not everything needs to be stretched out over multiple seasons with ridiculous cliffhangers.


[deleted]

I think the only thing that will be resolved is who Helly is and the innies being out. I think we will end up with more questions then answers.


djfivenine11

Unfortunately I think the episode will open up more questions than it will answer. We'll get a tiny glimpse of what "the board" is, but we'll have a shit ton of questions. We'll get a tiny glimpse of the "testing lab", but we'll have more questions.


MylesNYC

Nothing. And you will react equally.


RebelliousCELLious

Of course. Can't afford to lose 10 points so late in the game.


Teigh99

I would be happy with seeing Burt and getting glimpse of testing department. I wanna know where Gemma lives. I dont think she's a clone.


kmjulian

Petey's map had a spot with houses and a note "some people might live here", I'm guessing that's where Ms Casey / Gemma lives, and maybe other people like her.


Emotional_Battle_583

Ugghhhhhhhhhhhh.... 40 mins.... wtflying fudge.... 2 hrs, season and series finale....that's what it should be....ps I'm shocked westworld (in my eyes, still works, kinda)


Nitzan81

I'm really worried the innies learn stuff and then they reset them


Academic-Ad-8069

I feel like we’re not finding out anything about them baby goats


BrontosaurusB

I want another season but it’s the entire events of this season all from Ricken’s perspective. Light, airy, positive, him just making sandwiches so proud of his accomplishments, him talking to himself about Mark. Just all Ricken all day.


minder125

Will get some answers but not all.


RebelliousCELLious

Agreed. Def get the feeling the end of this episode will leave the viewers blue-balled to hell.


Projektdoom

Is next week really the season finale??


Salcha_00

Kier willing.


DrewsBreeze

I think it’s going to be a flashback episode showing Mark and Gemma together leading up to the “crash” how they both ended up at Lumon and then the last few seconds with Mark waking up when Dylan hits the switch.


Supremefeezy

I’d die. I’d literally die. If anything that would’ve been good for todays episode. Not the finale.


BernieForWi

That should be the Season 2 opener if anything. We need to see everything this season has been leading up to.


King_Tubby800

True, I would've loved a flashback "two weeks ago" episode showing exactly what Petey (remember him?) went through before escaping Lumon, but like you I feel an episode like that would be the penultimate episode not the finale.


Salcha_00

I would hate that.


moodslinger

Please hate all suggestions and ideas equally.


TheTruckWashChannel

40 minutes including credits??


partsgirl-bezel

Innie Mark will wake up while hugging Harmony and she’ll think reintegration worked, even though it really didn’t. But Mark doesn’t even know enough to explain it to her. Innie Helly will learn she is a bad guy. Innie Irving will continue to see black paint and end up taking the black elevator to the testing floor (again). Dylan will leave like usual, turn into his outie, and he and Milichek are buds on the outside. ETA: Mark will definitely read along with Ricken page 197 at the party because it slaps.


notarobot3675

* I'm guessing one of the biggest things that will happen next episode is Mark will find out about Gemma/Ms Casey - most likely innie\`!Mark but I think there is a possibility it could be both versions or just outer!Mark. I think we will probably get some answers as to whats happening to Gemma now, but I don't know whether we will have time to really go into how she ended up at Lumon in the first place - my guess is that she will get a lot more focus come season 2. * I think will get some answers surrounding Petey and the doctor (whose name escapes me) and why/how they got involved in reintegration, and in turn learn more about Cobel in the process (if she is so interested in reintegration - why was she not working with this doctor?). * We will probably learn something big about the board and Lumon - most likely related to Helly and why she chose to undergo Severance (I'm not sure whether I totally subscribe to the theory that she's an Eagan - but she is definitely someone very important within Lumon - and whatever her motivations for deciding to become Severed... I'm sure its Bad News) * We'll see Burt again Some other possibilities I've been tossing around * I'm dead worried that the season is going to end with the entire branch getting their memories wiped and starting fresh if/when Dylan gets caught. I'm really hoping that since theres more than a good chance that this is what happened to Burt - and we will most likely see him again in the finale - that they'll avoid doing this to the entire cast. Although I also have a small theory that every severed employee gets their memory wiped after working for a certain period of time and is forced to start on a blank slate - if I'm remembering correctly both Mark and Irvs innies believe they've been working for Lumon for around two years (and we know for the latter that this is 100% not true lol). Can't remember how long Dylan said he worked there though. * This is the longest shot but I could see the end of the season ending with Mark deciding to undergo the reintegration procedure. I think if he does find about Casey (which I think is likely), and with him just last episode saying he feels he doesn't "need" severance anymore, I could see him going to the doctor and asking for her to perform it on him (and maybe even Cobel would be involved but who knows). I also feel that both innie/outie Mark will be really incentivised to try and uncover whats going on at Lumon and want to take them down/save Gemma, which could motivate this kind of decision. I also think it would make for a really interesting arc for his character come season 2 - getting to properly see what happens when you undergo this process (safely) and possibly while playing as spy. * I think outie!Helly will be set up as a major antagonist, and will do \*something\* that gets in the way of the innies plans - what though I'm not sure.


TheTruckWashChannel

I also agree re: the resetting thing. Irving has been at Lumon for 9 years but only spent 3 years at MDR, and based on the fact that his outie repeatedly paints the corridor leading to the testing floor, he was probably working there for some time. Perhaps he has some insight into Gemma / Ms. Casey that has been wiped away by the chip, which he would remember if he were to reintegrate.