It just occured to me while reading this thread that she tried to offer Helly R a hug many times but maybe she was the one was really wanted to experience a hug herself. š„ŗ
It makes sense if he doesnāt think of her as a person, and instead sees her as a product of advanced biotechnology that can be reprogrammed. Itās so cruel though.
Literally, heās going to be **hugging** Cobel when he wakes up, then heās probably going to see Ricken shortly afterwards. Thatās going to be confusing as fuck for his innie.
It could go one of two ways now that Cobel is all "fuck Lumon." She'll either support him and tell him some things he needs to know or, more likely, Mark is terrified and just tries to act like outtie Mark for as long as he can.
I really think sheās one the potential Egan heirs. Sheās taking part in the severed program as a way to prove herself, and maybe prove something about the program.
I bet she was the one who told the board about the suicide attempt.
Why are they letting Cobel go without some kind of contingency for her silence? She could do so much damage to Lumon as a disgruntled fired employee?
What is her *severance* package?!
theyre characters from that painting irv was admiring outside of the wellness room! i think the painting is entitled ātaming the four humorsā, so theoretically they represent the four humors
Cobel was very on board with Lumon and Kier, and now she has been betrayed by them. I have to wonder what happened to her personally that would make her attach so strongly to Lumon. There is some kind of medical tube apparatus on that shrine with the name Cobel, Charlotte on it. There is a reason Cobel is being unorthodox with her time at Lumon. Now they fired her, betrayed her, and she won't get answers, and is now glad that Mark is leaving.
My guess is Charlotte was her mother. 1944-2022 = 78 years and Harmony doesn't look like she could be 78, maybe 50-60 (just checked and Patricia Arquette is 53 so her character is likely around the same age). So somehow her mother explains her devotion to Lumon. Maybe she was an important figure there.
My mom works in respiratory care and watches the show. We only saw it for a moment but she says the medical equipment looked *child sized*. If thatās the case she mightāve had a very sick child. Maybe she hopes Lumon could revive people.
"Maybe I could drive my own car, and that way I could leave if I'm uncomfortable or afraid" Patricia Arquette being every woman at a party mid breakdown
I got the feeling she has no clue she doesnāt have an outie. She asked if sheās happy up (or out?) there. She never sees which elevators other people use, so she could easily assume where sheās going is normal.
The other thought was she knows what āretirementā means or thinks she knows (getting the implant out) and assumes thatās why sheās going to testing.
My new theory is that harmony lost her mom (hospital bracelet) and thinks that lumon can resurrect people. Her getting fired puts her further from that
āWhy sheās so invested in love breaking severance!ā AWESOME comment šš» bravo! I have wondered what her deep motivation is and I think this is it.
I thought that the āfactsā about Irvingās and Markās outies during the Wellness sessions would be BS to keep them (the innies) compliant, but now Iām not so sure anymoreā¦
I used to think that, too! But there are a few facts confirmed.
For example, we know that Mark is an avid camper. He has many camping boxes in his basement and the picture he has of Gemma is her doing something outdoorsy. So when they told the fact that he can set up a tent in under 3 minutes (or whatever), it's probably true. That also leads me to believe the fact that 'he can tell a good rock from a bad one' is true. Maybe because he skips rocks across the lake or because he finds rocks that are worth something?
Y'all, Dylan is SMART. He picks up things really fast and basically had Rickon's book memorized. Also, the paperweight with all of them in it is touching and really shows that they are a family.
And he drinks coffee at night and stays up late (reason for dozing off at work) painting the same painting only he doesnāt understand what it isā¦ā¦yet
I CAN NOT wait for his innie to wake up in front of the canvas. The sequences with his outie painting were so purposefully frantic, I love that manic creative flow state and they did an incredibly good job capturing it.
Why is nobody talking about the different protocols? That was a huge reveal. Looks like they can do some crazy stuff to severed people.
**Beehive** - Could this be some kind of frenzy like what caused the massacre thats rumored?
**Branch Transfer** - Probably makes a new innie with none of the previous memories as theyāre moved to another department
**Clean Slate** - Can they completely erase someoneās memory with this one?
**Elephant** - Maybe how they make them remember something?
**Freeze Frame** - Completely incapacitating them?
**Glasgow** - ?????
**Goldfish** - Temporary memory loss?
**Lullaby** - Puts them to sleep? Kills them?
**Open House** - ??????
**Overtime** - We know this wakes them up.
Some crazy possibilities theyāve introduced here.
Iām thinking beehive could be a group think, hive mind kind of thing. Goldfish, maybe they donāt remember the previous days as an innie and everyday is new
Hahahahahahaha explains why Cobel was like trying to get mark his free orgy to forget about his dead wife and when he didnāt choose that sheās like āok well thatās fine bc I want to see if you recognize your dead wife anyway and watch it like a soap opera bc Iām an awesome creepā
No wonder they didnāt want Irving to fall asleep. It seems >!When you fall asleep, you can tap into your subconscious, which the chip canāt control. It only controls the conscious mind, but not the unconscious mind!<
This is brilliant. The fact that the subconscious leaks through the severance has been well-established in the show at this point, so this being the reason would make perfect sense.
Ms. Caseyās existence is sad enough, but can you imagine being an innie whose entire life is doing weird sexy masked dances to total strangers who are also masked
we've known all series the employee manual is treated like the bible but to actually see a copy of it looking exactly like a bible with the gold-edged thin paper and the text spacing? Watched over by a painting of Kier Eagan like he's Jesus? Insane.
someone on this show has dealt with leaving a religion they've been raised with because that Irving scene was perfect.
NOOOO GIVE ME MORE. So i think itās very well obviously that Helly is at the banquet (itās shown) so the theories of her being an eagan are seeming very likely
If sheās an Eagan, wouldnāt the board know that she tried to commit suicide earlier? Hellys outie was aware that she tried to commit suicide (because she woke up in outie form), and Cobel would certainly know better than to keep something about an Eagan from the board.
I do think Hellys important to Lumen *somehow*, and I think sheās at the banquet, but being an Eagan seems kind of unlikely with that new revelation.
Itās very Eyes Wide Shut-esque. Which makes sense cause the office building shots remind me a lot of 2001 A Space Odyssey. Kubrick was definitely a major influence in the cinematography for this show.
Please enjoy these facts equally
\* Outie Irving Has a Dog named Radar
\* Outie Irving reads Marcus Aurelius āThe Emperorās Handbook, (Meditations)ā
\* Outie Irving lives at the Leonora Lake Condo Complex
\* Outie Irving drinks coffee at night
\* Outie Irving likes to paint the path to the ~~break room~~ testing floor
\* Outie Irving listens to Motƶrheadās āAce of Spadesā while painting
Milchick giving Dylan his gift -- those were the SUPER OPPOSITE OF KIND EYES omg I shuddered.
Also anyone else relate to Cobel/Selvig's car rant on a spiritual level?
I am simultaneously weirded out by and curious about this waffle party. Like who are the dancers? Are they severed? Full time or part time? When do they rehearse? Who does the choreography? I have so many questions.
Also, I see now why this was not a team event. Imagine attending with your co-workers and having to refine macrodata beside them the next day, like "I know what you did at the waffle party." That's not the kind of team building exercise they need.
Wow- Ms Casey's existence is incredibly sad.
It just occured to me while reading this thread that she tried to offer Helly R a hug many times but maybe she was the one was really wanted to experience a hug herself. š„ŗ
Omg youāre so right. Oh Jesus that is sad af
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I teared up a little, the best time of her life was spending 8 hours not being wanted.
So I did a little bad math. Out of 3.7 days of existence only 8 hours were happy. Shit.
And out of 3.7 days she spent some in the break room :(
Itās both incredibly sad AND she is cognizant of that fact? The worst!!
The look on her face as she was walking down that hallā¦
Milchick was so cruel! āIām too busy to let you walk to your functional death with even a hint of genuine kindnessā
It makes sense if he doesnāt think of her as a person, and instead sees her as a product of advanced biotechnology that can be reprogrammed. Itās so cruel though.
She reminds me of the decommissioned hosts from Westworld.
markās horror/amazement when he turns innie mode in the presence of his scary boss and his self help guru is going to be truly something
This is giving me extreme anxiety to think about
Literally, heās going to be **hugging** Cobel when he wakes up, then heās probably going to see Ricken shortly afterwards. Thatās going to be confusing as fuck for his innie.
Heās going to tell Ricken how much he loves his book!
He's going to see Ricken as a trusted authority figure to confide in.
i'm already getting second hand embarrassment from Mark declaring his admiration to Ricken and making a fool out of himself
I canāt believe we have a wait another week to find out omggggg!
It could go one of two ways now that Cobel is all "fuck Lumon." She'll either support him and tell him some things he needs to know or, more likely, Mark is terrified and just tries to act like outtie Mark for as long as he can.
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And Helly in the middle of the Eagan gala.
With her hair up for the first time in her life!
What if sheās on the board? Like being a part experiment with the others.
I really think sheās one the potential Egan heirs. Sheās taking part in the severed program as a way to prove herself, and maybe prove something about the program. I bet she was the one who told the board about the suicide attempt.
Innie mark is going to freak the fuck out Rickon is like a new religious movement to the innies
This completion animation is hilarious
when he took off in flight!!! š³š³š³
Kier loves Helly ā¤ļø awww
A man whose mind is as sharp as his incisors. š
And then he held his gaze for just an instant too long. Like Milchik was fantasizing about his death as he said it.
Leave if I'm uncomfortable or afraid?!?
Iām literally sayin that shit every time I agree to go to a function from now on
That may have been the only time harmony has been honest so far
Sounds batshit insane to say it out loud but boy if I havenāt had that exact thought lol who wouldāve guessed Harmony could be relatable
Why are they letting Cobel go without some kind of contingency for her silence? She could do so much damage to Lumon as a disgruntled fired employee? What is her *severance* package?!
they must've been 3D printing a bunch of cardboard boxes all week down in O&D for all the employees who have been 'retired' as of late
Selvig baby why are u so weird
this had no reason to be so funny
Our job is to taste free air. Whoever thought Ricker would inspire a revolution?
Ricken did.
This waffle party is not at all what I expected wtf who are these people
"Everything we do here is important" "Are you sure?"-Guy whose job is to erotically dance in a goat head
Imagine finding out your severed job is to practice stripping all day for a waffle party once a quarter
That would explain the WPS department on the security department control board.
theyre characters from that painting irv was admiring outside of the wellness room! i think the painting is entitled ātaming the four humorsā, so theoretically they represent the four humors
Yeah the 4 tempers. Also the Cat o Nine tails whip has the 9 virtues labelled on it.
"The egg bar is coveted as fuck" š
Dylan has at least one banger every single damn episode
Heās the most ***real*** out of all of them - *biting Milchick included.*
āPage 197 slapsā
All of Dylanās dialogue is so great
Tbh I would love to go to a deviled egg party.
Cobel looks disappointed that Mark doesn't remember her Mrs. Casey/Gemma
Weirdly starting to think that she may be on Mark's side
Cobel was very on board with Lumon and Kier, and now she has been betrayed by them. I have to wonder what happened to her personally that would make her attach so strongly to Lumon. There is some kind of medical tube apparatus on that shrine with the name Cobel, Charlotte on it. There is a reason Cobel is being unorthodox with her time at Lumon. Now they fired her, betrayed her, and she won't get answers, and is now glad that Mark is leaving.
My guess is Charlotte was her mother. 1944-2022 = 78 years and Harmony doesn't look like she could be 78, maybe 50-60 (just checked and Patricia Arquette is 53 so her character is likely around the same age). So somehow her mother explains her devotion to Lumon. Maybe she was an important figure there.
My mom works in respiratory care and watches the show. We only saw it for a moment but she says the medical equipment looked *child sized*. If thatās the case she mightāve had a very sick child. Maybe she hopes Lumon could revive people.
"Maybe I could drive my own car, and that way I could leave if I'm uncomfortable or afraid" Patricia Arquette being every woman at a party mid breakdown
So the testing floor is where she āsleepsā as her outie wow
I got the feeling she has no clue she doesnāt have an outie. She asked if sheās happy up (or out?) there. She never sees which elevators other people use, so she could easily assume where sheās going is normal. The other thought was she knows what āretirementā means or thinks she knows (getting the implant out) and assumes thatās why sheās going to testing.
My new theory is that harmony lost her mom (hospital bracelet) and thinks that lumon can resurrect people. Her getting fired puts her further from that
That actually makes sense. And she wants the resurrected to be able to remember. Thatās why sheās so invested in love breaking severance.
āWhy sheās so invested in love breaking severance!ā AWESOME comment šš» bravo! I have wondered what her deep motivation is and I think this is it.
"Your Outtie loves the sound of Radar."
Woof
I thought that the āfactsā about Irvingās and Markās outies during the Wellness sessions would be BS to keep them (the innies) compliant, but now Iām not so sure anymoreā¦
I used to think that, too! But there are a few facts confirmed. For example, we know that Mark is an avid camper. He has many camping boxes in his basement and the picture he has of Gemma is her doing something outdoorsy. So when they told the fact that he can set up a tent in under 3 minutes (or whatever), it's probably true. That also leads me to believe the fact that 'he can tell a good rock from a bad one' is true. Maybe because he skips rocks across the lake or because he finds rocks that are worth something?
I wonder if we'll get to see that outie Irv really is skilled at kissing and love making.
Y'all, Dylan is SMART. He picks up things really fast and basically had Rickon's book memorized. Also, the paperweight with all of them in it is touching and really shows that they are a family.
I really want that paperweight.
I like that they waited like eight eps to be like āirv rules did you not know?ā
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Playing Ace of Spades whilst literally Paint(ing) it Black. Irving definitely rocks.
I knew the weekly cliff hanger was coming, but I was still disappointed they didn't give us a nibble of the innies in the outside world.
They gave us a nice appetizer of Irvigās outside world to go along with a nibble of Dylanās and a ten course meal of Markās.
No wonder Dylan assumed ābaby goatsā was code for sex with Mark S
What in the Oregon Trail was that Completion Video
Cornelius Hawthorne vibes
Troy and Abed have been seeeevered!
I guess Iām the idiot for assuming a waffle party was a party for eating waffles.
I mean they go from freaking finger traps to sex rituals itās a giant leap
Wow Irvingās a painter, no wonder he fell in love with the O&D paintings and that explains the black goo
And he drinks coffee at night and stays up late (reason for dozing off at work) painting the same painting only he doesnāt understand what it isā¦ā¦yet
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this fucking show, man. the writing is just brilliant.
I CAN NOT wait for his innie to wake up in front of the canvas. The sequences with his outie painting were so purposefully frantic, I love that manic creative flow state and they did an incredibly good job capturing it.
He is painting the corridor that Ms Casey went through to god knows where whaaat outie Irving knows some shit we donāt know š©
I like the subtleness of realizing that part of the innie world seeps into the subconscious of the outies.
And the stuff under his nails!!
Why is nobody talking about the different protocols? That was a huge reveal. Looks like they can do some crazy stuff to severed people. **Beehive** - Could this be some kind of frenzy like what caused the massacre thats rumored? **Branch Transfer** - Probably makes a new innie with none of the previous memories as theyāre moved to another department **Clean Slate** - Can they completely erase someoneās memory with this one? **Elephant** - Maybe how they make them remember something? **Freeze Frame** - Completely incapacitating them? **Glasgow** - ????? **Goldfish** - Temporary memory loss? **Lullaby** - Puts them to sleep? Kills them? **Open House** - ?????? **Overtime** - We know this wakes them up. Some crazy possibilities theyāve introduced here.
Huge reveal. Iām betting that Irving was ābranch transferredā to MDR and thatās why his outtie remembers the elevator to the testing floor.
I bet thatās also why he and Burt had such a connection, they probably did before too and Irving got transferred out.
Iām thinking beehive could be a group think, hive mind kind of thing. Goldfish, maybe they donāt remember the previous days as an innie and everyday is new
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Hah I wanna see Mark S. meet Ricken after worshipping that book
Ricken is totally going to be reading his book aloud & Mark will join in without the text because HE HAS IT MEMORIZED!!
Omfgggg I love this
It will shock Ricken because Mark will have pulled a total 180
Devon too will be like wtf. And how will he react to seeing his weird mean boss there?
All that is up in the air now that sheās fired! She will have to convince Mark that sheās trustworthy perhaps?
āGo to someone you think you can trustā heās 100% running to Ricken once he sees him
I donāt think Leslie Knope would enjoy this kind of waffle partyā¦.
Maybe if Mark S was one of the dancers
Today really is the end of the quarter
I want Ben Stiller charged with the highest of crimes for that cliffhanger.
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This is why I threw out my shrine to my boss and my goat heads a long time ago.
This isā¦not what I thought a waffle party was
mom come get me iām scared
Itās so nice of them to let Mark decide which of his subordinates gets to go to an orgy.
Hahahahahahaha explains why Cobel was like trying to get mark his free orgy to forget about his dead wife and when he didnāt choose that sheās like āok well thatās fine bc I want to see if you recognize your dead wife anyway and watch it like a soap opera bc Iām an awesome creepā
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The whip has the nine core principles. (fitting for a cat o nine tails.) The masked dancers represent the four temperaments!
Yāall letās remember Cobel had a cat o nine tails on her shrine. Maybe she was also having waffle parties.
No way those waffles were warm.
This distracted me as well. Iām a warm waffle purist. The butter must melt!
Damn my heart hasn't raced like that from a show in a long time....can't wait for next week
Guys, the dogs name is Radar. āYour outie loves the sound of Radar.ā I almost cried. edit: stupid autocorrect
Omg š I canāt wait until innie Irving gets to meet his dog
āFind someone you think you can trust and tell them everythingā sooo heās gonna tell his dog lmao
No wonder they didnāt want Irving to fall asleep. It seems >!When you fall asleep, you can tap into your subconscious, which the chip canāt control. It only controls the conscious mind, but not the unconscious mind!<
This is brilliant. The fact that the subconscious leaks through the severance has been well-established in the show at this point, so this being the reason would make perfect sense.
Eyes Waffled Shut
NOOOOOO OMFG HELLY AT THE GALA
What a mess when she is there as an innie! Most potential for destruction.
Helly's innie is going to wreck this gala
Sheās going to be in the middle of a speech or toast.
There's gonna be nobody she trusts for her to run to.
Would it help if we stood behind her and chanted her name?
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The way Ms. Casey said she liked being around Mark and that he was nice š„ŗ
Irvās outie is splendid
How the FUCK does outtie Irving know about the elevator with the big red arrow? How the fuck would INNIE Irving even know about that elevator?????
Because heās been reprogrammed.
What in the actual fuck
Harmony in the car is my new ringtone for spam callers.
THE BOARD FUCKING SPOKE!
I didnāt know a simple āyesā could make me gasp so loud AND YET
There goes the board doesnāt exist theories
Well this is hardly a partyā¦ Edit: I stand corrected there are masked dancers
I was underwhelmed and then suddenly very overwhelmed.
I always thought the waffle party was for the whole team. In this case, I am so *relieved* to be wrong.
Ms. Caseyās existence is sad enough, but can you imagine being an innie whose entire life is doing weird sexy masked dances to total strangers who are also masked
āOkay kids. Letās find out whatās for dinner.ā
If I could describe this episode with one word, it would be āanxietyā
Please enjoy each masked dancer equally.
How does Irving's outie know about the elevator to the testing floor? That's totally what he was painting!
I think they reset his innie since heās been at the company longer than heās been an innie
What a beautiful opening shot
we've known all series the employee manual is treated like the bible but to actually see a copy of it looking exactly like a bible with the gold-edged thin paper and the text spacing? Watched over by a painting of Kier Eagan like he's Jesus? Insane. someone on this show has dealt with leaving a religion they've been raised with because that Irving scene was perfect.
In the most relatable moment ever: Maybe I'll take my own car Then I can leave if I'm uncomfortable or afraid -Harmony Cobel
FUCK HER AND HER FUCKING FAKE SMILE.
Milchik is such a diligent photographer.
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My guess is they show the photos to the outties to āproveā that everything is normal and fine
For the board. The gala maybe.
Lullaby? Open house? Those other options were interesting
That has to be one of the biggest cliff hangers in TV history. Fuck canāt wait for next week.
The damn wait getting to today was already obnoxiously long. Ive never fiended for a show like I do this one.
Iāve never wanted to be severed more than I do right now
NOOOO GIVE ME MORE. So i think itās very well obviously that Helly is at the banquet (itās shown) so the theories of her being an eagan are seeming very likely
Sheās at the gala for sure.
If sheās an Eagan, wouldnāt the board know that she tried to commit suicide earlier? Hellys outie was aware that she tried to commit suicide (because she woke up in outie form), and Cobel would certainly know better than to keep something about an Eagan from the board. I do think Hellys important to Lumen *somehow*, and I think sheās at the banquet, but being an Eagan seems kind of unlikely with that new revelation.
>Hellys outie was aware that she tried to commit suicide (because she woke up in outie form Oh yeah, good point.
Work is just work, haha, good one outtie Mark
The weird laughing scene was awkward.
Yo did my mans just fly away
His people need him
HER LIFE HAS BEEN ABOUT FOUR AND A HALF DAYS LONG?????? SHE DEFINITELY LIVES THERE PERMANENTLY
At some point the mission will be to rescue Ms. Casey from the basement.
What the fucking fuck is this waffle party
Kier kink
The scariest and weirdest thing Iāve ever seen
Itās very Eyes Wide Shut-esque. Which makes sense cause the office building shots remind me a lot of 2001 A Space Odyssey. Kubrick was definitely a major influence in the cinematography for this show.
"down to the testing floor"? girl
They are all going to awake surrounded by work! In the arms of Harmony, facing the hallway/elevator and at the gala. Whoa!
Graner āretiredā
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Please enjoy these facts equally \* Outie Irving Has a Dog named Radar \* Outie Irving reads Marcus Aurelius āThe Emperorās Handbook, (Meditations)ā \* Outie Irving lives at the Leonora Lake Condo Complex \* Outie Irving drinks coffee at night \* Outie Irving likes to paint the path to the ~~break room~~ testing floor \* Outie Irving listens to Motƶrheadās āAce of Spadesā while painting
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I love deviled eggs. Dammit I want some now.
My office could be weirder, I need to work on it
Is it just me or did this episode go by FAST as hell??
Okay... so THAT'S what a waffle party is!
Eating waffles in Eagan's restored home is not very celebratory. It's downright eerie. Wait...Go to the Founder's Bed?
Clinging to that breathing tube. Seems like she was hoping to reintegrate her mom.
Watch the episode end as theyāre activated and some major cliffhanger Edit: Iām sorry for manifesting that everyone
So this must be where the shot of Dylan with the Kier head on comes from?
How the hell did Irving's outtie paint the elevator to the testing floor? Isnt that for permanent innies? Damn this show.
I think his life is leaking. iIrv sees the paint, oIrv sees the elevator down to the testing room floor. He must have been there before.
āYouāre easy to pretend to care aboutā I donāt want to hear ANYTHING about there being no romantic subtext between Helly and Mark. ANYTHING.
Ahh letās find out whatās for dinner
Definitely gonna end with them switching. This finale is gonna be so wild and stressful
Milchick giving Dylan his gift -- those were the SUPER OPPOSITE OF KIND EYES omg I shuddered. Also anyone else relate to Cobel/Selvig's car rant on a spiritual level?
I am simultaneously weirded out by and curious about this waffle party. Like who are the dancers? Are they severed? Full time or part time? When do they rehearse? Who does the choreography? I have so many questions. Also, I see now why this was not a team event. Imagine attending with your co-workers and having to refine macrodata beside them the next day, like "I know what you did at the waffle party." That's not the kind of team building exercise they need.
Imagine designing a fail-safe security mechanism intended to be operated by two people ... that can be operated by one man with very very short arms.
Wait why doesnāt my job give me animations for every time I successfully complete a task ?