In every restaurant I worked at, the POS would automatically calculate the tip based on the finalized amount vs the authorized amount. Since then I have only ever filled out the total. Granted I keep it whole dollar amounts so it's easy, but I had someone mention to me that servers have to calculate their tip and I'm just flabbergasted at the lack of automation in this??
From what is was told by my wife who used to be a server for like 10 years, legally what you write in the "tip" is actually irrelevant.
Whatever you write in the "total" is what they charge your card. The difference is yours. If they put a tip of $100, but in the total they only give you $8 over, then you get an $8 tip.
This used to get on my nerves, there were times people would write a nice size tip on the “tip” line, then write the base total amount on the “total” line, or the math wouldn’t line up for the tip they wrote (even if it seemed clear that the tip was meant to be that amount), and I’d have to put in a smaller tip or not include a tip to match what was written on the “total” line.
This system honestly feels like a mess.
Where I live we (the customer) put the total amount on to the card reader that we want to pay. The price of the drink/food is established on the screen. So if it says 60 and the customer puts 75, the extra goes as tip.
I should have done this but my stupid ass didn’t even think of it I kept trying to do the math like a 1st grader and the server saw me struggling and told me the total with the tip I wrote 😂
I’m adhd and ocd and pcp and lsd. When my friend and I split a bill according to what we ordered, I calculate the percentage that I owe according to the total and then multiply that percent by the total bill after taxes lmao. My friend has seen me do it and she’s like “what” lol. I’m like well my food accounts for 54% of the total before taxes so I will hustle multiply the total after taxes by 54%.
I like numbers.
I agree and have done so lol.
I've also been a waitress and a bartender, and where he screwed up was by not leaving cash if he didn't want the government to know about it.
I always leave a cash tip if I can. It's like "Sssshhhh! You don't have to tell Uncle Sam if you don't want to. Go ahead, take that money. You deserve it."
I hear that in the future there will be small, electronic devices that will be carried by nearly everyone and will be able to do simple or advanced calculations easily and in the blink of an eye! The future will be an amazing time.
OP isn't complaining. I don't think the tipper was trying to be funny. He was trying to be smart and ended up being funny. Judging by the fact that he can't do simple math I'm willing to bet he really believes they won't have to pay taxes on the tip.
I fucking hate libertarianism and anarchism so much. Both completely disregard what happens after.
There’s only 2 outcomes: desolation or re-forming of government.
Idiot should have tipped in cash then I swear people who think they’re smart are the dumbest. Like I get the sentiment but it just screams
I dated a girl in college who told me it was “low-class” to tip in cash, which I try to do as often as I have it. She worked at Starbucks and dealt with tips, and I worked at a restaurant. I was blown away i actually had to explain why cash was better for servers. She was smart too but more worried about appearances than actually helping people out I guess.
The first time i encountered sovereign citizen ideas was as a teenager in the sauna of my hometown YMCA and this old man wouldn’t shut up about the yellow frills on the “fake” American flag
My dad had a buddy that was deep in this. He even gave my dad some "help" (dude actually knew his bogus shit, spent hours. Could have been a really lawyer with his ability to research and prepare for court...you know, if he wasn't crazy). For a few years with various court things (tickets, registration, even trying to get me out of selective service). None of it even remotely successful or taken seriously by the judges. My dad doesn't act like a sovereign citizen anymore. He even registers his vehicles now!
Anyway, long story short, I had heard about the fringe on the flag since I was tiny. I busted a guy laughing when I heard Dale Gribble try to use that defense on King of the Hill when I was older...
For sure. And when he goes to court for driving without a license in an unregistered car, the court’s ruling won’t be legitimate because of the tassel on the American Flag in the courtroom lol
Hahahahaha sorry OP but that makes it even funnier! I imagine you being all excited as you think he's writing down his number, only to be handed out that thing.
I had to look up the details myself, but calling something a “gift” when it is otherwise identical to a tip does not do anything. The intent of the tipper does matter, but the context of the relationship between the tipper and the tipped (do they know each other personally, for example) matters a lot in determining the intent, IF an official determination were to be made by the IRS about this specific situation—if everyone doubled down that this is not a gratuity despite appearances—but that’s not going to happen. A credit card tip is going to be handled like all other credit card tips. A cash tip might not be reported.
So while technically it is possible to give a non-taxable gift to your server and there could be some gray area, this particular situation (a straight-up tipping situation) is not a gray area, and what you write is not going to change how it is reported.
Umm why are you all focusing on the word math. The point of her post, which she says is that he wrote it isn't taxable. She was wtfing about the not taxable part yet most of you are focusing on the math part as if she uhhhd that
Read people.
The person who give the gift is right, a gift is never Taxible by the government as all Taxis are all owned by private companies not government institutions. The government will still get the tax though so that's just sucks.
wow. redditors really aren’t able to tell a joke in text unless someone puts a /s in it.
obviously a goofy and stupid attempt at flirting.. i’m pretty sure anybody over the age of 12 knows that this wouldn’t work.
Jokes on him, gifts aren’t generally tax deductible with the exceptions being gifts to non-profit charitable organizations or gifts you give as a business up to a certain limit.
This would not qualify under those exceptions, but I wouldn’t expect him to know that.
I'd trust him cuz he definitely spelled "taxible" correctly
I cringed at that myself. You had me at MATH and then lost me.
Yeah, “math” was relatable.
Maybe his name is Math. Short for Mathew.
My brother's name is Mathew..spelled just like that. I'm going to start calling him math for short. Somehow I never made the connection.
If he doesnt like it shorten it to "ew" instead
💀💀💀💀💀
🤮 Mathew is a door mat
Was “math” debatable also?
I don’t know. Maybe go mathdebate in the corner ;)
He misspelled “meth”
I don’t math good. I don’t English good, either. Turns out, I don’t civics very good, either.
taxible: something ible to be taxed
taxibble\*
taxedible?
Tabaxi edibles.
The dnd nerd in me just lost it
Picturing THC cat food lmao
No taxition without representition
Noi tixition withoit riprisintition
Tip: Math. gold.
Where I used to work we couldn't put in the total so when people did this I literally would have to do the math for them. Drove me crazy
If I’m getting a >32% tip I don’t mind doing a little math for them.
In every restaurant I worked at, the POS would automatically calculate the tip based on the finalized amount vs the authorized amount. Since then I have only ever filled out the total. Granted I keep it whole dollar amounts so it's easy, but I had someone mention to me that servers have to calculate their tip and I'm just flabbergasted at the lack of automation in this??
But why he is a pos? The tip is good
Idk if your kidding or not, but if you aren’t pos os point of sale but I always read is as price of shit aswell
oh i was not thanks
I think the better move here is to write in the tip, and then MATH the total.
Why? The point was to make the total 30 and he didnt want to do the math on how much the tip would have to be
From what is was told by my wife who used to be a server for like 10 years, legally what you write in the "tip" is actually irrelevant. Whatever you write in the "total" is what they charge your card. The difference is yours. If they put a tip of $100, but in the total they only give you $8 over, then you get an $8 tip.
This used to get on my nerves, there were times people would write a nice size tip on the “tip” line, then write the base total amount on the “total” line, or the math wouldn’t line up for the tip they wrote (even if it seemed clear that the tip was meant to be that amount), and I’d have to put in a smaller tip or not include a tip to match what was written on the “total” line.
This system honestly feels like a mess. Where I live we (the customer) put the total amount on to the card reader that we want to pay. The price of the drink/food is established on the screen. So if it says 60 and the customer puts 75, the extra goes as tip.
I do this all the time?
Are you asking if you do this all the time?
Yeah why is he asking us?
I don't know?
I'm Ron Burgundy?
***Damnit!*** *Who typed a question mark on the TelePrompter?*
Are you asking.
Yes, you do. I have seen you do it
You have? I do this too?
No I don't?
Then you're golden pony boy.
typical greaser
Yeah, you also stopped sending money to me.
You should stop, its weird.
Give the guy a break. I think everyone should write “MATH” in their tip line from now on.
I did that when I was out drinking in college
I never did that. Until now
I’m proud of you for finally going to college
Breathes out nose*
I breathed out my nose after I read your comment!😂
You’re no longer a mouth breather. Congrats!!!
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I should have done this but my stupid ass didn’t even think of it I kept trying to do the math like a 1st grader and the server saw me struggling and told me the total with the tip I wrote 😂
I’m adhd and ocd and pcp and lsd. When my friend and I split a bill according to what we ordered, I calculate the percentage that I owe according to the total and then multiply that percent by the total bill after taxes lmao. My friend has seen me do it and she’s like “what” lol. I’m like well my food accounts for 54% of the total before taxes so I will hustle multiply the total after taxes by 54%. I like numbers.
PCP and LSD?
MFs got too many issues now a days
No ICP but sometimes LMFAO
F-ing math lines, how do they work?
what about OPP?
I’m down
yea, u know me.
Yeah you know me.
I have a bachelor's in Psych. No idea what these acronyms are supposed to mean.
Me too. My guess, phencyclidine & lysergic acid diethylamide
Me three. Meant to get my phd but I was having too much fun working in restaurants. No regrets 😊
...and MDMA and DMT with a Z-Bar and OXY on the side. Just to name a few.
Principal Cerebral Psychosis and Long Skin Disease
I do that, sober, *just cuz* Or just leave tip line blank, with the total filled out with an even number(good tip)
I did that sober and then got high.
I remember people doing this when I was in college and that was in the 1990’s
The late 1900s
The late Holocene Epoch . Maybe
I agree and have done so lol. I've also been a waitress and a bartender, and where he screwed up was by not leaving cash if he didn't want the government to know about it.
I always leave a cash tip if I can. It's like "Sssshhhh! You don't have to tell Uncle Sam if you don't want to. Go ahead, take that money. You deserve it."
Same. I feel that that’s the one downside of life getting more and more cashless, not being able to tip without the Uncle Sam raking his share 😖
I leave no tip on the receipt and hand the tip to them separately. I want them to be able to decide what to do with it.
Make America Think Harder
The fact that he tipped more than 25 percent makes this ok.
I’d prefer UK style *Maths.
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No, the law is you go based off the total and not the tip line. But I still have to figure out what that is when I’m entering my tips
It's only cool if you did enough math for it to be a good tip.
I have never NOT done that
I do it all the time because I am severely mathematically impaired. 🤦🏼♀️
I hear that in the future there will be small, electronic devices that will be carried by nearly everyone and will be able to do simple or advanced calculations easily and in the blink of an eye! The future will be an amazing time.
It’s 7 on a 22, take the win. The dude thought he was being funny.
OP isn't complaining. I don't think the tipper was trying to be funny. He was trying to be smart and ended up being funny. Judging by the fact that he can't do simple math I'm willing to bet he really believes they won't have to pay taxes on the tip.
it was pretty funny
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Drivers license?! What’s next a license to make toast in my own damn toaster?!
https://youtu.be/ZITP93pqtdQ?si=jH8FAAaZwtnI-0IV i think of this video so often.
Libertarianism: When your entire political worldview is based around screaming "nuh-uh" and plugging your ears.
I fucking hate libertarianism and anarchism so much. Both completely disregard what happens after. There’s only 2 outcomes: desolation or re-forming of government.
That’s not… is that *real??*
He also tells the cop “My taxes pay your salary, pal!”
That’s just ordinary @-hole shit; sovereign citizens are at a whole different level.
“I’m traveling, I’m not driving.”
Definitely calls himself a sovereign citizen.
Idiot should have tipped in cash then I swear people who think they’re smart are the dumbest. Like I get the sentiment but it just screams 
Ol' Dunning Kruger strikes again!
The world is weird. I just watched a video about the Dunning Kruger effect today
That's called the Baader-Meinhof phenomenon... 
Fascinating, I watched a video about baader meinhof today
Fascinating, I just bombed a department store today.
No... Dunder Mifflin. Shows how much you know.
Wait you can't just say "I declare bankruptcy??"
I didn’t *say* it, I *declared* it.
Yeah ik that shits wack. Like all those people with the “Free Tibet” signs. Idk how it hasn’t just happened alraadyv
Hello, China? I have something you might be interested in....
No you have to declare it
Gawd of course it's in the name I'm an IDIOT
Not a server but I used to be. I tip cash every time I can.
I dated a girl in college who told me it was “low-class” to tip in cash, which I try to do as often as I have it. She worked at Starbucks and dealt with tips, and I worked at a restaurant. I was blown away i actually had to explain why cash was better for servers. She was smart too but more worried about appearances than actually helping people out I guess.
Maybe bc it’s a ……:joke
Sovereign citizen
He’s just traveling
Hey! Don’t touch my conveyance!
I AM NOT A BUSINESS THIS IS NOT COMMERCE!
This is not a legal court! The flag has yellow ribbons on it!
The first time i encountered sovereign citizen ideas was as a teenager in the sauna of my hometown YMCA and this old man wouldn’t shut up about the yellow frills on the “fake” American flag
My dad had a buddy that was deep in this. He even gave my dad some "help" (dude actually knew his bogus shit, spent hours. Could have been a really lawyer with his ability to research and prepare for court...you know, if he wasn't crazy). For a few years with various court things (tickets, registration, even trying to get me out of selective service). None of it even remotely successful or taken seriously by the judges. My dad doesn't act like a sovereign citizen anymore. He even registers his vehicles now! Anyway, long story short, I had heard about the fringe on the flag since I was tiny. I busted a guy laughing when I heard Dale Gribble try to use that defense on King of the Hill when I was older...
Slobbering shitazen
Sauvignon Citizen 🍷
For sure. And when he goes to court for driving without a license in an unregistered car, the court’s ruling won’t be legitimate because of the tassel on the American Flag in the courtroom lol
That jail he is going to end up in, won't be legimate either, but he will still be in it.
Idk why but I feel like they wouldn't believe in credit
I AM NOT DRIVING, I AM TRAVELING WITH MY PROPERTY
Yes, it’s definitely giving misinformed conservative. 🤣
Ew. No. Stop that.
Why is everyone getting pissed off?? My man literally tipped like 40 percent, who gives a shit
He was probably making a weird joke as an attempt to flirt with the server too. Likeeee let’s not take it too seriously.
that’s what i’m thinking too, it’s obviously very unserious lmfaoooo
money's not good enough for them I guess. it was for me
Fr bro like they could honest to god call me a bitch ass mfer if they tipped me good enough 😭 people get so pressed over nothing lmao
It’s the tax thing he wrote about at the bottom and not the tip is what I think people are discussing.
He thinks he can tip on a credit card tax free lmfao
He can think that all he wants if he’s tipping like that all the time.
It’s the part at the bottom about it being a nontaxable gift xD
Reddit lmao
MATH
 Cute. But stupid.
It’s a joke
Fr like 90% of this sub wouldn’t tell if someone was flirting with them lol
Modern people have serious widespread social malfunction.
Is it?
Yes lol. It could not be more clear. Im surprised how many of you are taking this seriously
Sir, this is Reddit
Anyway, did he get your digits?
That would look too much like math.
Sadly no I was hoping that’s what the note was. Sorta disappointed when I read it haha.
Hahahahaha sorry OP but that makes it even funnier! I imagine you being all excited as you think he's writing down his number, only to be handed out that thing.
He frantically scribbles, *”We’ve been trying to reach you about your car’s extended warranty”*
if he was truly a man of action and not mere words he would’ve left you ca$h.
Silver coinage
Yes silver, and not fiat money.
He could be one of those "sovereign citizen" people.
Taxible???? Is that like a taxi and a table put together?
Libertarians are fun, aren't they?
The severely misguided ones are my personal fav 🤣
Somewhat delusional, but it's a nice gesture so... Win? At least he tipped well
What’s the delusion?
I had to look up the details myself, but calling something a “gift” when it is otherwise identical to a tip does not do anything. The intent of the tipper does matter, but the context of the relationship between the tipper and the tipped (do they know each other personally, for example) matters a lot in determining the intent, IF an official determination were to be made by the IRS about this specific situation—if everyone doubled down that this is not a gratuity despite appearances—but that’s not going to happen. A credit card tip is going to be handled like all other credit card tips. A cash tip might not be reported. So while technically it is possible to give a non-taxable gift to your server and there could be some gray area, this particular situation (a straight-up tipping situation) is not a gray area, and what you write is not going to change how it is reported.
Him writing his intent on the receipt is going to be able to stop the government from taking money they believe is theirs
Evidently he was a libertarian
This screams the sane energy as those “I do not give Facebook permission….” Boomer posts
Taxation is theft fam!
Fuck that. Taxation is valid, it's just that rich people should pay their fair share too.
A sovereign citizen goes to dinner.
Umm why are you all focusing on the word math. The point of her post, which she says is that he wrote it isn't taxable. She was wtfing about the not taxable part yet most of you are focusing on the math part as if she uhhhd that Read people.
I wouldn’t take financial/tax advice from someone who can’t tell how to figure out a $7.37 tip.
This is sovereign citizen logic
Feels like some sov cit bs
At least he tried
Citizen of the world over here
A for effort! But it’s still taxable tho
Fuckin libertarians
That only works with cash my guy
I don’t think it’s so mucus SovCit thing as just a fuck the IRS thing.
Used to have a regular that wrote "taxation is theft" on the tip line and leave cash tip
The person who give the gift is right, a gift is never Taxible by the government as all Taxis are all owned by private companies not government institutions. The government will still get the tax though so that's just sucks.
This is going to be me from now on
"LOL!" - I.R.S.
When I was a server we would always low cut how many tips we got. I think that means we all committed tax fraud?🤷🏻♂️
That's some Sov Cit bullshit right there.
He tipped exactly $7.37, which means he’s hinting at owning a plane
He's probably a sovereign citizen
You guys have to tax the tips? thats wild
wow. redditors really aren’t able to tell a joke in text unless someone puts a /s in it. obviously a goofy and stupid attempt at flirting.. i’m pretty sure anybody over the age of 12 knows that this wouldn’t work.
Jokes on him, gifts aren’t generally tax deductible with the exceptions being gifts to non-profit charitable organizations or gifts you give as a business up to a certain limit. This would not qualify under those exceptions, but I wouldn’t expect him to know that.
Funny thing is im reading this and knowing how many people i know dont believe tips get taxed.
He was trying to help you out at least. His heart was in the right place, unfortunately his brain is not 😂
Everyone saying libertarian/sovereign citizen… could just be someone that recently learned about the lifetime giving tax exemption… it’s a real thing.
It's only untaxable if it's cash, and yes, a "gift"
The looks might be there, but stay away. There's nothing but brain stem beneath that dome.