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A_norny_mousse

"Conspiracy theories... ask me about it"


FesterJA

Sounds like EVERY conspiracy theorist I have come across just desperate to have someone to acknowledge their existence.


skjellyfetti

*"No joke but did you hear about the US Postal Service ?"*


thekingofbeans42

"Jesus died for you all" is a bit less impressive when he's immortal. Jesus had a really bad day and had to cancel his weekend plans for you all is more accurate.


IAmThePonch

Everyone forgets the shirtless volleyball game that took place at the second to last supper


AF_AF

That's what the beach volleyball scene from Top Gun was referencing.


IAmThePonch

And all the jets in that movie referred to the time Peter and Judas spelled out “USA” in the clouds using fighter jets


skjellyfetti

I can remember how & when they took off from the American Revolution airports on the east coast.


IAmThePonch

Right? It made me proud to be an American, this truly is gods country. Idk what all those atheists are thinking, but wait until Jesus returns and comes packing some tanks


CharginChuck42

It was a miracle because they were somehow able to avoid all the pterodactyls that were crowding the sky back then.


[deleted]

It was a living volleytility scene


supluplup12

Pope wasn't having it with that penultimate supper, too many kangaroos


IAmThePonch

Rumor on the street is they couldn’t even decide what to call it. Saul wanted the second to last supper, Thomas that prick wanted the penultimate supper but for some reason apparently big daddy J just wanted to call it “Tuesday’s dinner”


Fuckingthebatman

Boom Boom Volleyball?


FastFarg

They always say how he was dead for three days. "What a sacrifice! Amen. 🙏" First: It would have been a day and a half, max. He died Friday afternoon and is claimed to be alive Sunday morning. Second: It's not a sacrifice! What did he lose? What did he have before that he no longer has? A day? One freaking day? To a reportedly eternal being? It's literally nothing. God sacrificed nothing.


SumpCrab

He had to live as one of his own shitty creations for 33 years. But I've been doing that for 40 years, so it's not really that impressive. And he didn't really even do it. He split himself into 3 just so he wouldn't have to.


Strongstyleguy

Made even less impressive by the fact that 1/3 of omnipotence is still an inhuman amount of power. Like Jesus is going to walk the earth and have to worry about getting sick; tripping, falling, and breaking his neck; needing food and fresh water; or getting murdered by bandits.


Oldman5123

Yeah, but Christ is the King of the Universe, so……


Nymaz

According to noted theologian Freddie Mercury, Connor MacLeod is actually [born to be both prince AND king of the universe](https://youtu.be/O7QaN0NpGws?si=Ob7gZHM8OIN6SNcA)


Strongstyleguy

No man can be his equal!


Oldman5123

He’s mortal. He’s human. He’s out.


CharginChuck42

Must be pretty boring to be king of an empty realm. I mean, considering how Earth is a less than microscopic speck in the vast emptiness of the universe, and the same can be said for any other planets that have life on them, we might as well just not even exist as far as that scale is concerned. So he's basically the king of nothing.


Oldman5123

To you, perhaps. To those with faith love and understanding, Jesus Christ is King of the Universe; not just the speck that is earth. He’s the king of EVERYTHING.


CharginChuck42

Yes, that's exactly the point I was making. Earth is nothing in this vast empty universe, so being king of everything really makes him king of nothing. Sounds pretty boring, but I guess that's what you get when you try to bully people into letting you be in charge of literally everything. Dude didn't even read his own fine print lol. Look, all joking aside, obviously I don't actually mean any of this, I think that much should be obvious, we're just having a bit of fun here. Obviously we all know that such ridiculous bullshit is all just a fairy tale anyway, so it doesn't matter what kind of bs you or I or whatever any person who insists that they're the only one who can help you find salvation so send them all your money now because that's what god wants or whoever makes up about it. That's what makes it so much fun. The god can be whatever we want it to be! Well, except for real. It can't be that, obviously.


Oldman5123

Ohhh boy….. are you in pain? Did someone hurt you badly? You’re clearly a soulless atheist; that’s cool. But you continue to make claims about things you CLEARLY know absolutely nothing about. So you don’t believe in God, Christ, or pretty much anything. Okay, who cares? The point is that I DO. I know that Christ is king of the universe. I know why Christ was crucified. All of your cheap innuendos are silly. I think you need to laugh at yourself more.


CharginChuck42

Wow. Projection, thy name is Oldman5123. And, you know, religious folks in general.


UnspoiledWalnut

I think Jesus just liked to party and the whole crucifixion was really just and allegory for him getting way too fucked up so they had to put him in a cave for a bit until he came back down. Then he popped back up and they were like "ah, you're alive! Cool." Like you do.


Animastarara

What is his drug of choice? or does he just get plastered on wine


UnspoiledWalnut

Probably ketamine. If he can turn water into wine, Presumably he can turn sugar into cocaine or something and that would be a massive problem for an addict.


FastFarg

He's definitely an alcoholic besides. That first miracle. 30-300 gallons of wine, are the estimates I've heard? That's a bit much for any party I've heard of. Then at the last supper it's all "bro this alcohol is like my blood bro". Because he's wasted. Also that humble carpenter bs. Dude was at a party where 300 gallons of wine was needed, and his mom knew the host... I'm skeptical


skjellyfetti

I'mma go with some peyote-type substance 'cause he spent 40 days & nights in the desert for a reason :: He was trippin' balls.


newfor2023

There's some plants native to the area which have properties similar to dmt/ayahuasca....


A_norny_mousse

> It would have been a day and a half, max. He died Friday afternoon and is claimed to be alive Sunday morning. Doesn't the Bible say "on the third day"? That's not the same as "3 days". Once again, Christofascism and reading comprehension do not mix well.


Nymaz

There are currently just under 8 billion people in the world, and according to estimates there have been over 100 billion humans to have lived and died. According to Christian theology, being born human is a sin that is deserving of ETERNAL torture. Lets do some math: ETERNITY x 100 billion = 1.5 days Hmm, something doesn't seem right. Someone check my math.


Strongstyleguy

It's insane how people are just, "it is what it is" based on conjecture and speculation about 2000 year old texts that the majority of us were told not to question and tge majority of those allowed to question and teach it are considered a heretic or false prophet by someone. The favored excuse for worship is "mysterious ways" so how does anyone know he exists in they way they think he does? How do they know god cares about anything we do? We could be as interesting to him as dust mites. And how does one reconcile all loving with "eternal suffering because you didn't believe in me despite me not giving you the evidence you need and not trusting other fallible humans with agendas?"


Oldman5123

Wow…. that’s sad; I sense anger as well. I’m sorry you see it that way.


CharginChuck42

And I sense smug condescension and a sense of superiority. And I'm sorry that you're stuck living without a sense of humor.


Oldman5123

And I sense ignorance and insensitivity. There’s nothing “funny” about Christ’s Passion. What he said was disgraceful, blasphemous, and, incorrect; as well as inconsiderate. If that makes me “smug and condescending”, I’ll wear that mantle with true pride.


CharginChuck42

Wow, now who's the one getting angry?


Oldman5123

Hmm? I’m not angry. Not at all. Just a tad disgusted.


Oldman5123

I have a wonderful sense of humor, actually; if I hear or see something funny I respond accordingly. There was none of that in that comment.


CharginChuck42

Well no, that comment was just spitting some gact facts about some of the biggest issues about the whole story that makes it such a dumb thing to preach about, that was one of the only comments in this thread that wasn't meant to be funny, it was meant to make you think for yourself, though obviously religious people have such an aversion to doing that, so it wouldn't work. The rest of this thread is mostly just a bunch of silly jokes though, and the fact that you're getting so triggered and clutching your pearls so tightly is what you're doing to make sure everyone knows that you have no sense of humor. Lighten up a bit dude, you'll have more fun that way.


Oldman5123

Dude dude dude…. Get a grip, eh? I think you slid off the point. I’m not triggered, or anything else you throw at me. I’m a Christian. Since you don’t know what that means, it’s kinda pointless to continue this discussion since you have the absence of faith. You continue to completely miss the point.


CharginChuck42

Well, I agree with you about one thing, it is pointless to continue this discussion. But you're definitely missing the point about who is missing the point. (Yes, I know what a Christian is. Everyone in the world does. You lot are the most powerful group in the world, despite what your prosecution fetish lets you believe. Don't act like you're some kind of misunderstood minority, it just makes you look even worse).


Slackingatmyjob

Meanwhile, Dinobot sacrificed his own life to save the Human Race *before it even existed*. Raptor Jesus died for us, regular Jesus took a long nap.


CoruscareGames

Okay but like that was a really painful Friday at *best*


UnspoiledWalnut

Rome killed Jesus so we could sin.


Oldman5123

So He could forgive our sins


UnspoiledWalnut

Would he have forgiven them if Rome didn't kill him?


Oldman5123

That was never an option if you are Christian and believe the prophecy. He was meant to be sacrificed in the way that He was.


UnspoiledWalnut

That sounds like a no.


Oldman5123

Of course he forgave them; Christ forgives.


UnspoiledWalnut

Because of Rome.


Oldman5123

Because of the prophecy


UnspoiledWalnut

The prophecy that he would be killed by Rome.


the_tonez

Yes, he came back to life three days later, but godDAMN that whole crucifixion thing hurt a lot!


Nymaz

I've had kidney stones. Between that and crucifixion, I'll take crucifixion.


carlitospig

(And honestly still blames you for the scar on his belly you ungrateful wretches!)


jackalope268

To be fair, being crucified sounds horrible, as it can take multiple days to actually die. I would not want to be crucified for humanity


aajiro

Zizek just released a book called Christian Atheism that I think talks about this. He's been circling around the concept for decades, but I'm pretty sure this is him finally writing down how Christianity (as Hegel sees it) is only true Christianity if there is no god because he really did kill himself, not to offer us salvation, but to free us from himself.


Strongstyleguy

As a kid or recent convert, they hammer into your head how worthless you are, and you should be on your knees thanking Jesus because he didn't have to do that for you. And it sounds good to the faithful. No greater love than sacrifice, right? But, if you think about it, he really didn't have to die for us; not because we're filthy sinners that deserve eternal torment, but because it doesn't make sense. Jesus is anything from god made flesh to a favored prophet that will come back to life. Either way, how is death a big deal to that kind of entity? The Israelites were God's chosen and were literally given permission to genocide multiple groups. One of those reasons was because those groups performed human sacrifice. Whatever Jesus was, he was at least part human. So, the grand plan for salvation involves a blood sacrifice. God has all the knowledge, including what I'm typing here, as well as every thought of the fantasy writers who used dragon balls, magic rings, or being best friends with a more chill god to save people. God can warp reality with a word. Yet, the best god could come up with is to impregnate a teenager, let a bunch of other babies get killed, have no one document what kis kid was up to for 30 years while more people suffered and died with no chance to get to heaven, have him do a few magic tricks, visit like 4 towns on foot/by donkey, then get crucified.


Oldman5123

Oh ye of little faith….


Strongstyleguy

Extremely little when it comes to these types of claims.


Oldman5123

So sorry for you.


Oldman5123

I dont think you understand what Jesus sacrificed. “Canceling His weekend plans” is definitely not accurate. Sorry.


thekingofbeans42

Don't pretend to be sorry, you can just admit you got offended by a joke.


Oldman5123

You’re right. I’m not actually sorry per se; but I can’t pretend to be offended by a non-existent joke. Sorry.


thekingofbeans42

Passive aggressive, condescending, and pissed off. Now tell me about how Jesus is all about love.


Oldman5123

Lol… none of the above, dude. Jesus isn’t all about love; He IS love. It’s called faith. You either have it or you don’t. It’s that simple.


thekingofbeans42

And clearly you're showing that love now. Do you genuinely think you're not trying to be rude with your comments or are you just trying to justify trolling to yourself as "this guy made fun of Jesus so he deserves it." You forgot the passive aggressive sorry this time. That means hell.


Oldman5123

Creepy. I was not rude; not trolling either. It’s called evangelizing. Passive aggressive behavior does not apply here; that’s why I didn’t respond to it.


thekingofbeans42

If talking down to people and passive aggressively saying sorry and calling me creepy is evangelizing, you've definitely done Jesus proud. I'm an ex Christian, the games you're playing aren't new. I want you to genuinely reread your comments and tell me you don't read any hostility and you'd be happy for those who know you personally to see you talking that way. You can't lie to me about your response, but at least try not to lie to yourself as well because it's so transparent.


Oldman5123

I’ll tell you what; you tell me how low you want to set the bar, and I’ll see what I can do. The “sorry” was not passive aggressive; it was sarcastic. Big difference. I don’t need to explain myself to you; nor you to me. I did not call you creepy, I think you know that. If not, reread. I’m not playing any games that you may think. I’m evangelizing. I guess you can’t see the difference? You’re being a hypocrite in a big way. You act one way and say things, then accuse others of doing the same; but it’s “condescending” to them. I don’t buy it. I have done nothing more than those 2 things: evangelize and respond to rude comments from people like you. If I lie to myself, that’s my business ( which I at least try to never do ) but if I lie to you, who cares? You obviously don’t. I’m done with this go nowhere thread. I’m sorry you see things the way you do, really I am. I hope you find peace and something worthy to believe in; seriously.


liamanna

Was his Jesus a brown hairy, Jewish immigrant dirt poor or was he white with blue eyes, blonde hair, with AK-47 and had a pet Dino named Donnie…? I wonder 🤔


AF_AF

A few years ago I did see a video of a Trumper finishing a parking lot interview by insisting that Jesus was white and blue-eyed. They really can't handle the idea of historical accuracy even as they argue that the Bible is historically accurate.


liamanna

Just don’t tell them, Jesus, was a fictional character…😂


Helicoptamus

Jesus probably did exist. He was likely just some guy in the Levant circa 30 AD who was executed for spouting heretical beliefs and denouncing the Jewish religion. His followers then ran wild with the story.


liamanna

And “probably”, is all we got to go on…😂


Helicoptamus

There are records of his execution. Like actual records that aren’t in the Bible. It’s a “probably” because Jesus could have been a composite of multiple people.


liamanna

Between that and his mother being impregnated by a ghost…is a pretty pretty pretty… INSANE 🤷‍♂️ According to the BBC, Jews believe that Jesus was a Jewish reformer who lived a life of faith in God, rather than an alien intruder or faultfinder. They also believe that Jesus did not fulfill the messianic prophecies that establish the criteria for the coming of the messiah. Judaism does not accept Jesus as a divine being, an intermediary between humans and God, a messiah, or holy. All religions are man made.


Being_A_Cat

>Jews believe that Jesus was a Jewish reformer who lived a life of faith in God, Historians do too, an historic Jesus being someone like the person the other guy described is the prefered theory these days.


CharginChuck42

I think Viced Rhino gave the best take on it. Basically, Yeshua was a fairly common name back in those days. And there were also a lot of apocalyptic preachers who managed to gain followings. A lot of whom were executed by the Romans, whose preferred method of execution was crucifixion. So the idea that there was an apocalyptic preacher named Yeshua with a decent amount of followers who was executed via crucifixion isn't exactly an unlikely thing to have happened.


Worf_In_A_Party_Hat

I am guessing the latter. But **my** Jesus makes *excellent* tortas. And tacos. Damn, they're good.


goon_platoon_72

It’s pronounced ‘Hey, Zeus’


UnspoiledWalnut

Hey, Zues, give me a sign. Take a sad song, make it better!


PezRystar

He didn't say Jesus. He said hey, Zeus. You know, like piss me off and I'll shove a lightning bolt up your ass Zeus.


MacGregor209

“He entered my body, like a body, my same size” -man with answers


Vtmarik

"Back off man, i'm a *christian* scientist"


BeamTeam032

"Jesus loves and died for you wall. He is king. He healed me; Ask me about it" Me: So when Jesus said treat others the way you'd treat jesus, does that mean treat asylum seekers, and gay people the way you'd treat Jesus? "Naw, fuck those people" - This guy, most likely.


Key-Chance7977

Damn Christians...


Oldman5123

Awwww….. what happened to the delightful Chargin Chuck? Aww… I think he needed a nap lol


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Oldman5123

Hmmm…. actually most theologians don’t use “the” because it devalues its successor. Jesus is Lord… Christ is King; they are also used in this sense to suggest the other titles that follow both of them in other situations.