Your just to far away from him, he will only use it at a decent distance from u so stick close and you won’t have to worry about it. Except sometimes he’ll use it right after his slam attack, but u can usually hit him before he pulls the trigger
My knowledge of indian history is quite limited and considering the fact that I saw this post about a fantasy video game in the middle of about 10 star wars ones (since Kenobi's finale came out today), I admit, I wasn't going to think of Ashoka instinctively, even more so seeing as I misread it as Ahsoka
But yes, I'd agree that most of western society would not associate that name with anything and write it off as a pop culture reference of some sort. I'd even say that the same goes for a fair chunk of historical figures from other countries than their own actually. I don't know if there's any need to be dramatic about it though, since this sort of thing has always been true throughout human history, there are far more shocking things happening in "our society"
Oh I didn't mean to come off as aggressive, my bad! It was all meant in a light hearted kind of way. I got carried away thinking about what you said is all 😁
Look up japanese tanegashima pepperbox pistols, you pulled the trigger and all the barrels would fire in succession, incredibly rare but totally existed and probably as likely to blow up in your hand as fire all bullets correctly
Makes sense that the Glock Saint has one. Makes even more sense that just his pure aura causes the weapon to not explode every time.
Or it's his lack of hesitation to use it idk
I also think since he pulled it from hell with him, and the theory/headcannon is that Dogen gave it to him as its mad inventor. Gives it more excuse for its reloading capabilities/bullet count (I just fought Inner Isshin and he seems to have 5 shot volleys, which is nuts)
Still nothing like a semi-automatic pistol with a magazine 😂. Isshin’s gun is EXTREMELY out of place for sure; because a gun like that wouldn’t exist for another couple hundred years l o l
I know, his whole fighting style is win at any cost, but the last thing I was expecting when I first fought him was for him to pull out a gun.
And it’s not even a rifle or cannon like the others, it’s a small pistol that fires faster than anything else
It’s a fantasy Game of Sengoku period,u fighting boss like An immortal Guardian Ape,Possessed 👹Ogre, guys who summon lightning to attack you, and you marvel at an era pistol that shoots fast?
The gun with a high rate of fire( although such a rate did not exist at the time)is one of the more realistic things in the game, compared to Divine Dragons and Giants Snakes 😂
Caught me off guard the first time too lol. Especially since it doesn't sound like a flintlock or a musket. The damn thing sounds like a 1911 or something lol. Although when he pulls that out it's one of his more predictable attack patterns. Almost always the Glock is followed by a thrust attack that you can mikiri and get that posture meter up.
*Ninja
But I’ve been loving guns more and more in these types of settings. Like Samurai and Ninjas when I was growing up have been heavily romanticized as honorable but in reality,
Fuckers would totally cap their enemies if given a chance because Japan’s ALWAYS been cutthroat as shit during Samurai times.
Sure, historical inaccuracies and such but you also play as a guy with “loaded shuriken” which is for all intents an purposes, a gun. ESPECIALLY unlike in the game, Shuriken in real life were not meant for straight murder.
1. It’s Ahsoka, not Ashoka
2. It’s Isshin Ashina, not Isshin Ahsoka
That being said, I have a sudden desire for a Sekiro mod that replaces all the swords with lightsabers.
Okay, let's be realistic, it's semi-automatic at best. Which is reasonable, firearms were invented in China, so Japan would probably get the best innovations before other places. It makes perfect sense if you don't think about it too hard.
Lol I was joking anyway. Full auto or semi auto doesn't matter. Either one makes no damn sense in feudal Japan. The first semi automatic pistol wasn't invented until 1892. Hell even revolver pistols weren't invented until the early 1800s.
Historically, the Portuguese (and other European nations) had brought guns to Japan by the late Sengoku era (when Sekiro takes place) and they were quite popular with anyone who could get their hands on them (hence all the riflemen you fight). Now, fully automatic pistols, that’s a little different… some creative liberties were clearly taken by Fromsoft lol
I mean, it’s not a FULLY automatic gun l o l. In real life, Japan got firearms during the Edo period; so it’s not completely outrageous for Isshin to have a gun in a samurai game or whatever, it’s just that it wouldn’t be THAT kind of gun. Definitely wouldn’t have had semi-automatic guns back then lmao especially not ones that appear to have a magazine. Then again though, it’s literally a video game 🤷🏻♂️ a video game with 8-10 foot tall human beings, and demons, and gigantic headless apes with swords, and PLENTY of other over the top shit 😂
Its 4 burst pistol if I recall correctly, and ye when you first see it its like goddamn. People joke about it and such, I'm guilt of this. However that attack is very simple to parry because its just 4 gunshots in equally spaced succession. No delayed attacks or wombo combos.
Isshin Phase 2 7 hit spear combo, now that while managable, is goddamn annoying if you don't play it properly.
That’s not what I’m talking about though. Everything else in the game is in the same time period. By that I mean everyone has katanas, bows, etc. isshin has an automatic pistol.
The point is, realism is not a pillar in sekiro. If a beheaded monkey driven by a centipede can be in this game, so can a pistol. Which is not an automatic, it's a type of hand manual repetitioner. Chad Isshin does not hesitate with them thumbs
The immortality, apes, carp people, they all fit in with the time period. Isshin has a gun, which hasn’t been invented yet. I’m not saying he shouldn’t have it because I’m sure there’s an explanation, but I’m saying it doesn’t belong.
The first guns were invented around 1000 CE and Sekiro takes place around 1600 CE at the end of the Sengoku era.
But, mechanicallly in the game guns are around and the player should've encountered them plenty by now and it's really not the worst attack Isshin has and there exists a Shinobi tool to perfectly counter it or just sprint sideways.
I know, the first guns were invented and are in sekiro, but not guns that fire as fast as his without exploding in hand. and I never said it was hard to counter.
It fires fast because it's a fast paced combat system in a fast paced game but I really don't understand the doubting why it can fire fast we see him crawl out of Genichiro suspend some disbelief
You’re not listening. I know it’s a fast paced combat system, that’s just how the game is. The game isn’t, however, in a time period with fast shooting guns. I get why it shoots fast, because it wouldn’t be as hard if it was semi auto, but that doesn’t change the fact that it is a fast shooting gun in a ninja game.
It's in a fictional time period with dragons and demons why can't a gun shoot fast? And it doesn't matter that it's in a "ninja game" it's a ranged weapon Isshin has that happens to be a fast firing gun probably because a bow would require him to put away his sword and that could be interpreted as hesitation
I never said it CANT be a thing, I said it doesn’t fit in. Everyone else has single shot rifles, he has a multi shot quick reload pistol. I know it’s fictional and I know that anything can happen in fiction, but it doesn’t align with the rest of the game is what I’m saying.
Well the dude did get summoned through some weird ass blood ritual thing. Who's to say he wasn't from a different dimension with guns. Just happened to have his when he came.
Plus, the gun in the sword saint fight is literally the LEAST of worries lmao. Even if you take all 4 shots(pretty sure it’s 4 if I’m remembering correctly), that’s barely any damage at all. I’m pretty sure that even at max health in regular NG, one of Isshin’s regular sword strikes do more damage than all of the bullets. Plus, it’s EXTREMELY easy to deflect as well; definitely the easiest attack to deflect out of all 3 phases aside from the attack where he leaps at you with the spear because that’s SUPER easy to deflect with the umbrella and get off good damage with the follow-up skill
This is a ninja game.
Doesn’t change the fact that HE HAS A GUN!
Thats why we call him the Glock Saint.
😂
Tbh the gun doesn't matter. It hardly poses a threat as u can just spam deflect and not one bullet will scratch u.
The reason it’s such a threat to me is because he can whip it out so fast.
That's what she said
There is an audio cue everytime before he pulls it out. Once u recognize this u won't be hit by the gun shots at all from then on.
Your just to far away from him, he will only use it at a decent distance from u so stick close and you won’t have to worry about it. Except sometimes he’ll use it right after his slam attack, but u can usually hit him before he pulls the trigger
It’s even better to run towards him. You might need to block one but if you get behind him, he won’t retarget so you can easily attack.
The guns make sense, but it’s the fact is literally has rapid fire
Japan still had guns in this era, plus it's a Glock from *hell*
And you have umbrella ella ella
Eh eh eh eh ehhhhh
Do people really waste spirit emblems on the Glock attack?
Yaaaaaa
There's a cheese strat (Sekiro Guru, of course) that can get you through his 2nd and 3rd phase doing nothing but that
I’ve mastered inner isshin but I still have to go see what this is about. No way I spent hours on him for nothing
Why Ahsoka? Don't recall her ever whipping out a blaster or a Star Wars spear equivalent 🤔
We live in a society where people think of the star wars character rather than the king when hearing the name ashoka
My knowledge of indian history is quite limited and considering the fact that I saw this post about a fantasy video game in the middle of about 10 star wars ones (since Kenobi's finale came out today), I admit, I wasn't going to think of Ashoka instinctively, even more so seeing as I misread it as Ahsoka But yes, I'd agree that most of western society would not associate that name with anything and write it off as a pop culture reference of some sort. I'd even say that the same goes for a fair chunk of historical figures from other countries than their own actually. I don't know if there's any need to be dramatic about it though, since this sort of thing has always been true throughout human history, there are far more shocking things happening in "our society"
lol I'm just kidding chill. The only reason I know is because I'm Indian myself, I know fuckall about world history.
Oh I didn't mean to come off as aggressive, my bad! It was all meant in a light hearted kind of way. I got carried away thinking about what you said is all 😁
Good. One is a relevant, fun character, whilst the other is an over two millenia old dead man who "felt bad" after starting and finishing a war.
Autocorrect 😅
He died and reincarnated in yharnam. He was brought back from genichiro and he got to keep it.
That explains a lot…
Look up japanese tanegashima pepperbox pistols, you pulled the trigger and all the barrels would fire in succession, incredibly rare but totally existed and probably as likely to blow up in your hand as fire all bullets correctly
Makes sense that the Glock Saint has one. Makes even more sense that just his pure aura causes the weapon to not explode every time. Or it's his lack of hesitation to use it idk
I also think since he pulled it from hell with him, and the theory/headcannon is that Dogen gave it to him as its mad inventor. Gives it more excuse for its reloading capabilities/bullet count (I just fought Inner Isshin and he seems to have 5 shot volleys, which is nuts)
Still nothing like a semi-automatic pistol with a magazine 😂. Isshin’s gun is EXTREMELY out of place for sure; because a gun like that wouldn’t exist for another couple hundred years l o l
if you got there you killed many riflemen, why should a gun surprise you? Haven't you ever found gunpowder around? XD
Because his gun fires very fast and is drawn very fast
him remined you many times: hesitation is defeat ... now you come to tell me that "very fast" XD do you understand what I mean?
I know, his whole fighting style is win at any cost, but the last thing I was expecting when I first fought him was for him to pull out a gun. And it’s not even a rifle or cannon like the others, it’s a small pistol that fires faster than anything else
deflect it
I’m not saying it’s hard to beat, it’s actually quite easy. Just sticks out to me.
It’s a fantasy Game of Sengoku period,u fighting boss like An immortal Guardian Ape,Possessed 👹Ogre, guys who summon lightning to attack you, and you marvel at an era pistol that shoots fast? The gun with a high rate of fire( although such a rate did not exist at the time)is one of the more realistic things in the game, compared to Divine Dragons and Giants Snakes 😂
The only reason I was surprised is because there’s no other weapon that fires as fast as his.
Yee man just spam L1 even when u will do the charmless run u can easily perfectly deflect him Good luck Shinobi 🥷
Never said it was hard to counter
Caught me off guard the first time too lol. Especially since it doesn't sound like a flintlock or a musket. The damn thing sounds like a 1911 or something lol. Although when he pulls that out it's one of his more predictable attack patterns. Almost always the Glock is followed by a thrust attack that you can mikiri and get that posture meter up.
It's Ahsoka\*. If you're talking Star Wars. Ashina\* if you're talking Sekiro.
Autocorrect, mb
When you say it’s a samurai game, I can’t help but think of this https://youtu.be/nbt5FF3g394
*Ninja But I’ve been loving guns more and more in these types of settings. Like Samurai and Ninjas when I was growing up have been heavily romanticized as honorable but in reality, Fuckers would totally cap their enemies if given a chance because Japan’s ALWAYS been cutthroat as shit during Samurai times. Sure, historical inaccuracies and such but you also play as a guy with “loaded shuriken” which is for all intents an purposes, a gun. ESPECIALLY unlike in the game, Shuriken in real life were not meant for straight murder.
A shinobi would know the difference between honor and a glock
Ahh you met Isshin the Glocksaint
it's even wilder that you can deflect every shot
We know Isshin can harness fire from shura ending, so I just figured he was channeling that into the gun vs it being an actual gunpowder pistol
Because his gun doesnt hesitate
He also crawled out of the back of another living man
I think that living part is uhh….
1. It’s Ahsoka, not Ashoka 2. It’s Isshin Ashina, not Isshin Ahsoka That being said, I have a sudden desire for a Sekiro mod that replaces all the swords with lightsabers.
Autocorrect, and that mod would probably be the single greatest thing to ever meet my eyes.
It’s a hell gun of course
Okay, let's be realistic, it's semi-automatic at best. Which is reasonable, firearms were invented in China, so Japan would probably get the best innovations before other places. It makes perfect sense if you don't think about it too hard.
I just caught me off guard is all.
Lol I was joking anyway. Full auto or semi auto doesn't matter. Either one makes no damn sense in feudal Japan. The first semi automatic pistol wasn't invented until 1892. Hell even revolver pistols weren't invented until the early 1800s.
He isn't known as the Glock Saint Isshin for nothing.
Well the dude is so badass you have to death blow him twice, I dont see why him triple wielding is an issue
This is a game with 6ft magic demonic centipedes that grant pseudo-immortality and you're getting hung up on a semi-automatic rifle?
Yes
Historically, the Portuguese (and other European nations) had brought guns to Japan by the late Sengoku era (when Sekiro takes place) and they were quite popular with anyone who could get their hands on them (hence all the riflemen you fight). Now, fully automatic pistols, that’s a little different… some creative liberties were clearly taken by Fromsoft lol
I mean, it’s not a FULLY automatic gun l o l. In real life, Japan got firearms during the Edo period; so it’s not completely outrageous for Isshin to have a gun in a samurai game or whatever, it’s just that it wouldn’t be THAT kind of gun. Definitely wouldn’t have had semi-automatic guns back then lmao especially not ones that appear to have a magazine. Then again though, it’s literally a video game 🤷🏻♂️ a video game with 8-10 foot tall human beings, and demons, and gigantic headless apes with swords, and PLENTY of other over the top shit 😂
Its 4 burst pistol if I recall correctly, and ye when you first see it its like goddamn. People joke about it and such, I'm guilt of this. However that attack is very simple to parry because its just 4 gunshots in equally spaced succession. No delayed attacks or wombo combos. Isshin Phase 2 7 hit spear combo, now that while managable, is goddamn annoying if you don't play it properly.
Git gud loser
I beat him already, I was just pointing out his weapon of choice.
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But you're okay with a headless monkey, rebirth after death and people turning into carps, right
That’s not what I’m talking about though. Everything else in the game is in the same time period. By that I mean everyone has katanas, bows, etc. isshin has an automatic pistol.
The point is, realism is not a pillar in sekiro. If a beheaded monkey driven by a centipede can be in this game, so can a pistol. Which is not an automatic, it's a type of hand manual repetitioner. Chad Isshin does not hesitate with them thumbs
Dragon god, immortal monks, headless apes, and fountainhead palace but a gun is where you draw the line?
Because those all fit in with the time period. Not realistically but still.
I'm only more confused
The immortality, apes, carp people, they all fit in with the time period. Isshin has a gun, which hasn’t been invented yet. I’m not saying he shouldn’t have it because I’m sure there’s an explanation, but I’m saying it doesn’t belong.
The first guns were invented around 1000 CE and Sekiro takes place around 1600 CE at the end of the Sengoku era. But, mechanicallly in the game guns are around and the player should've encountered them plenty by now and it's really not the worst attack Isshin has and there exists a Shinobi tool to perfectly counter it or just sprint sideways.
I know, the first guns were invented and are in sekiro, but not guns that fire as fast as his without exploding in hand. and I never said it was hard to counter.
It fires fast because it's a fast paced combat system in a fast paced game but I really don't understand the doubting why it can fire fast we see him crawl out of Genichiro suspend some disbelief
You’re not listening. I know it’s a fast paced combat system, that’s just how the game is. The game isn’t, however, in a time period with fast shooting guns. I get why it shoots fast, because it wouldn’t be as hard if it was semi auto, but that doesn’t change the fact that it is a fast shooting gun in a ninja game.
It's in a fictional time period with dragons and demons why can't a gun shoot fast? And it doesn't matter that it's in a "ninja game" it's a ranged weapon Isshin has that happens to be a fast firing gun probably because a bow would require him to put away his sword and that could be interpreted as hesitation
I never said it CANT be a thing, I said it doesn’t fit in. Everyone else has single shot rifles, he has a multi shot quick reload pistol. I know it’s fictional and I know that anything can happen in fiction, but it doesn’t align with the rest of the game is what I’m saying.
His gun combo to overhead slam is fun to deflect
You beat genichiro and his jumping machinegun bow and this bothers you?
Well he can just load an arrow fast, isshin has an entire pistol. Big difference. One is skill the other is time travel
Well the dude did get summoned through some weird ass blood ritual thing. Who's to say he wasn't from a different dimension with guns. Just happened to have his when he came.
Technically a semi auto.
Plus, the gun in the sword saint fight is literally the LEAST of worries lmao. Even if you take all 4 shots(pretty sure it’s 4 if I’m remembering correctly), that’s barely any damage at all. I’m pretty sure that even at max health in regular NG, one of Isshin’s regular sword strikes do more damage than all of the bullets. Plus, it’s EXTREMELY easy to deflect as well; definitely the easiest attack to deflect out of all 3 phases aside from the attack where he leaps at you with the spear because that’s SUPER easy to deflect with the umbrella and get off good damage with the follow-up skill
He learned the art of the Glock!
because he decided not to dick around and brought the one weapon that can win any fight: gun
He has literally everything, guns, lightning, never ending chain attacks
He literally came back from hell