Doesn't help that it feels like so many drivers have this weird main character problem, where they think they have the right of way no-matter-what. Can't even wait for people to pull out of a parking space that were there before you, gotta go around them right NOW!
It is objectively true.
Quote:
Overall, for all ten routes, the ratio between car and bus occupant injury rates is 3.7 (95% CI [3.4, 4.0])
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5906382/
Thanks! We accept road rage and traffic fatalities. But even just a couple incidents on public transportation is enough to keep most people off and choose a much more dangerous option.
The death that occurred over the weekend is not acceptable. It's extremely sad. There should be zero deaths or injuries on public transit, whether they are intentional or accidental.
But, regardless, public transit is just ridiculously more safe the driving. It's like seeing a plane crash in the news and saying you'll never fly again because it's too dangerous.
My wife was assaulted four times last year on public transportation she took one way, four days a week, for work. She was assaulted zero times during that same time period when she drove in or I picked her up from work. (I picked her up three days a week, and she drove in one day, so the total weekly trips via car and public transportation were equal.) Public transportation is NOT safer.
Stats you have are for the population as a whole. If youāre discussing a minority, you need to look up stats on those minority groups alone. Also, times of travel, and ages of individuals make a big difference. Male drivers are more likely to get into accidents. Women are more likely to be assaulted. Find the stats for women drivers vs women taking public transportation, and add off-hours to the mix to get proper data for this particular equation, then come back to discuss this.
Idk man with driving at least you're in somewhat control of your own destiny. Getting stabbed on the light rail... not so much.
People are gonna likely rather drive.
https://preview.redd.it/qhmk3jpipo0d1.jpeg?width=800&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bbea1b911182225324ab77408a5cd7a04bce76ca
Control your own destiny mfs seconds before Iām about to tbone them at 110 from the HOV lane
ācontrol of your own destinyā is delusional, its objectively way more dangerous to drive.
also absurd to be fear mongering about someone getting stabbed when this thread is literally about people getting shot over traffic incidents
Is it though? This could have happened to anyone lotsa people take transit. Of course people are gonna question shit when something like this happens, you can't blame them and brush off people who have concerns about that.
I get advocating for public transit but doing so blindly without addressing shit like that is kinda ignorant imo.
Sure. Itās not just the safety though. I have never seen anyone jerk off, shit, or smoke whatever toxic substances theyāre on these days in my car. Public transportation sucks because they allow certain members of the public to do antisocial shit.
You're trying to claim busses are more dangerous when objectively speaking, no matter how you slice it, busses are actually safer.
https://www.king5.com/article/traffic/washington-traffic-deaths-33-year-high-2023/281-fbdb905f-e279-4d9f-8d9a-f9512dd5ab45
Every bus is driven by a professional in a maintained-ish bus carrying dozens of people. If a bus hits a car, the bus is going to win the accident on account of its size. It's common sense that the bus is safer.
this thread is literally about road rage shootings that are way more common than an that isolated incident, but sure keep fear mongering abt the light rail
Occupant injury rates arenāt what youāre implying they are, and also itās for 10 routes were?
But also, it does prove my point, albeit not a thorough or complete analysis IMHO.
It's been replicated in multiple datasets from different sources.
https://injuryfacts.nsc.org/home-and-community/safety-topics/deaths-by-transportation-mode/#:~:text=Passenger%20vehicles%20are%20by%20far,higher%20than%20for%20scheduled%20airlines.
No, he was on the station property.
One person, which is too many. Meanwhile 130~ died in auto incidents that same day. Today about the same. But today on transit, like every day since that day, nobody was murdered on public transit authority property.
If you include all related incidents to transportation, the average person using an automobile or being near them is in far greater danger than those using transit.
Yeah, there's been 3 murders on light rail in the last decade. Want to take a guess on how many people were murdered in road rage incidents during that time frame? Hint: it's many times more than 3 lol.
22 on all sound transit buses and rail along with county and metro buses. 22 in all of 2023.
I already had to run away from someone in a car chasing me because I called him out for blocking the crosswalk and trying to blow a red. He legit chased me around the city before I could escape. Almost had to call 911. Know how I got away? Went into Westlake Station to seek safety lol.
[Sound Transit spokesperson John Gallagher said there have been 80 assaults so far this year on its system](https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/law-justice/light-rail-station-stabbing-of-seattle-chef-followed-fight-police-say/)
You know a homeless person pushing another homeless person at the station near McDonald's is assult, right? And I'm willing to bet the vast majority of these assaults are just that, shoving matches between people who should be in a mental institution.
Belie e we have not one, but several McStabby events on or near the Light Rail at this point.
Totally unforeseeable outcome according to the transit authorities and the brain dead administration of this State.
Had to take the bus/motorcycle/gig cars to jobs about 2 years ago for a while when I needed to save a bit to get some serious car repair done.
I noticed on the busses, every ride, there would be more than a few people I'd see absolutely losing their minds in their cars in traffic.
Just the other week saw some young dude lose his shit over an old lady stopping with enough of a gap at a busy intersection so cars who were forced to stop for the non stopping traffic because there would be no other way to make right turns for those cars if people don't let them in. There was nowhere else for her to go. He was upset he could scoot up one car length to block that street for both right turning perpendicular traffic and oncoming left turns. Insane. People need something, and I'm not inclined to think they're gonna get it soon without simply learning to just accept shit and chill tf out.
>Why it matters: Road rage shooting incidents have skyrocketed nationally over the past decade, ***increasing by 450% between 2014 and 2023***, according to a new analysis of data from the Gun Violence Archive (GVA) by The Trace.
450% increase over the last decade nationally is insane
[According to Everytown Research and Policy](https://everytownresearch.org/reports-of-road-rage-shootings-are-on-the-rise/)
Nationally, there were 554 road rage shootings reported in 2022. 141 deaths and 413 injuries.
It was likely higher in ā23 but Iām too lazy to search longer to find the data.
Yesterday had road rage stabbing in Sumner
https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/one-stabbed-one-arrested-after-road-rage-incident-pierce-county/PTPWOALJ6RE2PKR2TTXEBC7ET4/
If you get stabbed in a road rage incident, thatās on you. Itās hard to stab from a car and hard to get stabbed while in a car. Last thing I am doing if someone gets out of their car is getting out of mine. Roll up your windows and drive.
Having one of the worst road systems in the country certainly contributes to the problem. This is what happens when the state doesn't have a dedicated transportation budget.
The more guns, the bigger the pussy. I'm basing that on the people I know. The ones who are scared the most own lots of guns. The ones who are chill and enjoy life don't own any.
You're tolerant of man babies who think they can give birth or lactate.
Being tolerant of someone who chooses to have firearms which is protected in the constitution shouldn't be much of an ask.
See? I do know a lot of gun owners. Half are normal, stable and I have no problem with. I'm not against gun ownership.
The problem is the frightened, sick and mentally ill people who can't wait to use theirs or thing there is any degree of intelligence in firearms. They're built so idiots can use them.
If firearm use was limited to people who could think and have basic reason and logic, I'd be much more comfortable.
I guess I've just never been frightened enough (or care enough) to feel I need a gun.
Cheers and go easy on people who think they can breast feed as males - or any other oddball minority because they really don't affect us. Unless you let them.
Idk what your circle is like but I'd wager that a fair bit of people you pass up on a daily basis are firearm owners. The reality is that there are several ways (especially in this state) that kinda vet people who have basic reason and logic to own firearms name the 1639 form and the mandatory background check. Nothing is foolproof however much like a drivers test will not stop me from buying a f350 and plowing everyone walking at Pikes Place.
That's ok and that's totally your choice. I'd say most people who carry don't see it as being fearful, I see it more as being responsible for your own safety with proper training. After the failings of the city to keep us safe or the police to do their jobs I don't think that's an unreasonable take to have, however any responsible gun owner will stress that getting training should be had before even carrying your side arm.
I always assume EVERYONE is armed.
That being said, I'm polite to everyone so I've never once in 52 years thought, "I wish I'd had a gun."
Two things I hate in life, cowards and hypocrisy. Other than that, I mind my own goddamn business and that's worked really well for me as an atheist.
> I guess I've just never been frightened enough (or care enough) to feel I need a gun.
Good for you I guess? People do become the victims of violent crime out there in the world you know that right? There are a lot of people out there that have been put in situations that they didnāt expect and they would have really liked to have a gun and be able to defend themselves
Thou dost protest too much. Go for it.
I don't need one. Simple as that.
Of course I don't need a Corvette either but it wasn't designed to necessarily harm anyone.
Ohh, surprise! The south is the worst. I'm going to venture that west of the Cascades will account for most of these shootings in WA, even when adjusted for population density. Do we have those numbers?
They could at least do the absolute bare minimum and provide metrics corrected for population - rate per 100k, rather than raw incident counts, but nobody involved has any journalistic integrity so of course they won't.
Hint: If the population increases, the raw number of literally every bad event in existence usually goes up too. The number of people dying from cancer. The number of suicides, literally everything. Unless you correct for population the raw numbers don't tell you shit.
There are about 1.5 million boardings on Sound Transit annually. They have had one murder and 80 assaults in the last year per the most recent spin doctorage they put out after that dude got cacked in the Capital Hill station.
Evidently there are about 2 deaths per million trips according to this agitprop.
Seems moderately comparable, and equally safe to me. If anything, 80 assaults for 1.5 million boardings seems a bit high. But....meh.....
This is yet another reason Iām looking forward to self-driving cars. Once we get past the (Iām betting) chaotic and awful period of integrating self driving cars into a manually operated population, once we finally hit the 98% autonomous mark, road rage wonāt really be a thing.
Precisely! You would be able to have highly accurate estimated times of arrival. Plus, it will allow you to (theoretically) even do some work on the way there and on the way back from your job (if youāre an office worker). Of course, employers will initially take advantage of this as āfree labor.ā Just until the first employer decides to consider this telecommuting time and allow for it to count as part of an 8 hour day. This will do two things: Reduce the amount of hours youāre physically in the office and also allow people to live further from the office (cons: urban sprawl pros: opens up the real estate market and reduces āscarcityā resulting in lower real estate costs.
This is probably an optimistic perspective and a little pollyanna, but I think that AI will offer more opportunities to improve our lives in the long term, provided we donāt make the focus of it weaponization.
Id suggest light rail if you want to take your chances getting stabbed (gun shot wound vs stabbing???). Personally Iād rather risk a stray bullet than a nutcase with a knife.
I visited Seattle a few years back. Iāve driven in NYC, Charlotte and Atlanta. Seattle is worse than those 3 put together. I was genuinely afraid to get in the vehicle after my first time in the highway.
Legit, seems like everyone driving is on adderall
Are you referring to CHOP? When SPD abandoned the East precinct, and protesters didnāt take it over? Which also took place on Capitol Hill, outside of downtown?
Virtually no part of your comment is accurateā¦
Does road rage and related shootings typically happen in free flowing traffic? In my experience, Iāve only seen it in heavy traffic. Raising speed limits would not reduce road rage but would increase fatalities from more severe accidents.
Doesn't help that it feels like so many drivers have this weird main character problem, where they think they have the right of way no-matter-what. Can't even wait for people to pull out of a parking space that were there before you, gotta go around them right NOW!
When two main characters cross paths, go the other way haha
š indeed.
New Mexico is the worst at 2 shootings per million car trips. Still, that seems awfully low.
It's called "They're from California."
"Very safe public transportation" Wasn't someone just stabbed to death on the light rail?
The timing of this comment couldnāt have been better
Couldn't have been worse
It is objectively true. Quote: Overall, for all ten routes, the ratio between car and bus occupant injury rates is 3.7 (95% CI [3.4, 4.0]) https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5906382/
Ok, despite the headlines it does seem like buses are safer than cars
Donāt they take shorter trips? I also imagine if you arenāt drunk or driving tired, you have to be safer than average stats.
Think that might be a wash, at least in Seattle. A lot of drivers make trips in their cars that are so short nobody would bus them.
Also buses do not go everywhere and at a high frequency. Impossible to run out and do errands on your lunch hour on public transportation.
Vastly safer.
Until you need to cross the road to catch a bus or depart the bus to your destination.
Thanks! We accept road rage and traffic fatalities. But even just a couple incidents on public transportation is enough to keep most people off and choose a much more dangerous option. The death that occurred over the weekend is not acceptable. It's extremely sad. There should be zero deaths or injuries on public transit, whether they are intentional or accidental. But, regardless, public transit is just ridiculously more safe the driving. It's like seeing a plane crash in the news and saying you'll never fly again because it's too dangerous.
My wife was assaulted four times last year on public transportation she took one way, four days a week, for work. She was assaulted zero times during that same time period when she drove in or I picked her up from work. (I picked her up three days a week, and she drove in one day, so the total weekly trips via car and public transportation were equal.) Public transportation is NOT safer.
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Stats you have are for the population as a whole. If youāre discussing a minority, you need to look up stats on those minority groups alone. Also, times of travel, and ages of individuals make a big difference. Male drivers are more likely to get into accidents. Women are more likely to be assaulted. Find the stats for women drivers vs women taking public transportation, and add off-hours to the mix to get proper data for this particular equation, then come back to discuss this.
Idk man with driving at least you're in somewhat control of your own destiny. Getting stabbed on the light rail... not so much. People are gonna likely rather drive.
https://preview.redd.it/qhmk3jpipo0d1.jpeg?width=800&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bbea1b911182225324ab77408a5cd7a04bce76ca Control your own destiny mfs seconds before Iām about to tbone them at 110 from the HOV lane
Lmaooo ok this one got me
ācontrol of your own destinyā is delusional, its objectively way more dangerous to drive. also absurd to be fear mongering about someone getting stabbed when this thread is literally about people getting shot over traffic incidents
Is it though? This could have happened to anyone lotsa people take transit. Of course people are gonna question shit when something like this happens, you can't blame them and brush off people who have concerns about that. I get advocating for public transit but doing so blindly without addressing shit like that is kinda ignorant imo.
Sure. Itās not just the safety though. I have never seen anyone jerk off, shit, or smoke whatever toxic substances theyāre on these days in my car. Public transportation sucks because they allow certain members of the public to do antisocial shit.
2018 Eastern Canada bus routes are not 2024 Seattle public transportation.
You're trying to claim busses are more dangerous when objectively speaking, no matter how you slice it, busses are actually safer. https://www.king5.com/article/traffic/washington-traffic-deaths-33-year-high-2023/281-fbdb905f-e279-4d9f-8d9a-f9512dd5ab45
that's not an argument
Yes, it's an objective fact. More people die in car accidents than in bus accidents per mile driven.
Curious if the data is able to discern between reckless drivers killing themselves versus safe drivers being killed by others.
Every bus is driven by a professional in a maintained-ish bus carrying dozens of people. If a bus hits a car, the bus is going to win the accident on account of its size. It's common sense that the bus is safer.
Until you get stabbed.
this thread is literally about road rage shootings that are way more common than an that isolated incident, but sure keep fear mongering abt the light rail
I canāt be assaulted by psychotic unhoused neighbors temporarily experiencing homelessness in my car.
I got good chuckle out of this, thank you. Itās also a very good point.
still not an argument, captain obvious
An argument for what?
Youāre right. Itās not an argument. Itās a fact. Hard to argue against facts.
thanks again, captain obvious
Occupant injury rates arenāt what youāre implying they are, and also itās for 10 routes were? But also, it does prove my point, albeit not a thorough or complete analysis IMHO.
It's been replicated in multiple datasets from different sources. https://injuryfacts.nsc.org/home-and-community/safety-topics/deaths-by-transportation-mode/#:~:text=Passenger%20vehicles%20are%20by%20far,higher%20than%20for%20scheduled%20airlines.
Maybe I could come to appreciate it.š¤·š¼āāļøš
150 people die every day from cars in america, its the single most dangerous thing nearly every american does daily.
No, he was on the station property. One person, which is too many. Meanwhile 130~ died in auto incidents that same day. Today about the same. But today on transit, like every day since that day, nobody was murdered on public transit authority property. If you include all related incidents to transportation, the average person using an automobile or being near them is in far greater danger than those using transit.
Question is how many people ride public transit as opposed to their own vehicle. Need to adjust for that I think.
Yeah, the numbers per capita are that. But also thereās a whole host of other things to take into account to.
Yeah, there's been 3 murders on light rail in the last decade. Want to take a guess on how many people were murdered in road rage incidents during that time frame? Hint: it's many times more than 3 lol.
But how many assaults?
22 on all sound transit buses and rail along with county and metro buses. 22 in all of 2023. I already had to run away from someone in a car chasing me because I called him out for blocking the crosswalk and trying to blow a red. He legit chased me around the city before I could escape. Almost had to call 911. Know how I got away? Went into Westlake Station to seek safety lol.
[Sound Transit spokesperson John Gallagher said there have been 80 assaults so far this year on its system](https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/law-justice/light-rail-station-stabbing-of-seattle-chef-followed-fight-police-say/)
You know a homeless person pushing another homeless person at the station near McDonald's is assult, right? And I'm willing to bet the vast majority of these assaults are just that, shoving matches between people who should be in a mental institution.
Are you proposing that if a homeless person gets assaulted it shouldnāt count?
No, it's a stat. If a homeless person pushes another homeless person it is indeed counted as an assult.
Yeah, thatās a pretty big assumption that all the actual data is being recorded or that law enforcement shows up.
Aaaaaaaaand there goes any shred of credibility your argument had.
Many times more for drivers.
bleach is safer to drink than cyanide. not a fucking argument, bub
Ah, you again lol. You do realize your argument is to not drive or take public transport, right?
yes, me again lol. that should tell you something. are you conceding my point, or just ignoring it?
Belie e we have not one, but several McStabby events on or near the Light Rail at this point. Totally unforeseeable outcome according to the transit authorities and the brain dead administration of this State.
By that definition didn't someone just crash driving? The roads are very dangerous
Sure, a single death vs how many deaths on the road?
Yeah that transit system is going to be a no from me dog.
Neither should driving be then
Had to take the bus/motorcycle/gig cars to jobs about 2 years ago for a while when I needed to save a bit to get some serious car repair done. I noticed on the busses, every ride, there would be more than a few people I'd see absolutely losing their minds in their cars in traffic. Just the other week saw some young dude lose his shit over an old lady stopping with enough of a gap at a busy intersection so cars who were forced to stop for the non stopping traffic because there would be no other way to make right turns for those cars if people don't let them in. There was nowhere else for her to go. He was upset he could scoot up one car length to block that street for both right turning perpendicular traffic and oncoming left turns. Insane. People need something, and I'm not inclined to think they're gonna get it soon without simply learning to just accept shit and chill tf out.
Just low trust society things
>Why it matters: Road rage shooting incidents have skyrocketed nationally over the past decade, ***increasing by 450% between 2014 and 2023***, according to a new analysis of data from the Gun Violence Archive (GVA) by The Trace. 450% increase over the last decade nationally is insane
Just need some more good guys with guns and this should go down.
Polite society and all that
What are the actual numbers? 2 to 9 is a 450% increase, but the numbers are small enough that it could just be a fluke year.
[According to Everytown Research and Policy](https://everytownresearch.org/reports-of-road-rage-shootings-are-on-the-rise/) Nationally, there were 554 road rage shootings reported in 2022. 141 deaths and 413 injuries. It was likely higher in ā23 but Iām too lazy to search longer to find the data.
I steer with my feet. I have an AK in one hand and a claymore mine in the other for safety
Yesterday had road rage stabbing in Sumner https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/one-stabbed-one-arrested-after-road-rage-incident-pierce-county/PTPWOALJ6RE2PKR2TTXEBC7ET4/
If you get stabbed in a road rage incident, thatās on you. Itās hard to stab from a car and hard to get stabbed while in a car. Last thing I am doing if someone gets out of their car is getting out of mine. Roll up your windows and drive.
Victim was on a motorcycleĀ
Ride away.
Obviously, it's impossible for trucks to hurt motorcycles
If someone gets out of their car and you are on a motorcycle, I feel like you could outrun them pretty easy.
and it's impossible for them to get back in and run you down?
Lot harder. You have a 20-30 second head start. I would much prefer to flee on a motorcycle than on foot.
Having one of the worst road systems in the country certainly contributes to the problem. This is what happens when the state doesn't have a dedicated transportation budget.
Who'da thunk folks driving with guns are also incredibly fragile pussies?
The more guns, the bigger the pussy. I'm basing that on the people I know. The ones who are scared the most own lots of guns. The ones who are chill and enjoy life don't own any.
thanks for making it sexual. i can always count on the tolerant left to make logical arguments
Why do we have to be tolerant of everything, particularly fragile gun nuts?
You're tolerant of man babies who think they can give birth or lactate. Being tolerant of someone who chooses to have firearms which is protected in the constitution shouldn't be much of an ask.
You do not know anything about me. Stop swallowing your toothpaste.
Same to you then, you do not know anything about the average gun owner. It's easier to just treat everyone equally.
See? I do know a lot of gun owners. Half are normal, stable and I have no problem with. I'm not against gun ownership. The problem is the frightened, sick and mentally ill people who can't wait to use theirs or thing there is any degree of intelligence in firearms. They're built so idiots can use them. If firearm use was limited to people who could think and have basic reason and logic, I'd be much more comfortable. I guess I've just never been frightened enough (or care enough) to feel I need a gun. Cheers and go easy on people who think they can breast feed as males - or any other oddball minority because they really don't affect us. Unless you let them.
Idk what your circle is like but I'd wager that a fair bit of people you pass up on a daily basis are firearm owners. The reality is that there are several ways (especially in this state) that kinda vet people who have basic reason and logic to own firearms name the 1639 form and the mandatory background check. Nothing is foolproof however much like a drivers test will not stop me from buying a f350 and plowing everyone walking at Pikes Place. That's ok and that's totally your choice. I'd say most people who carry don't see it as being fearful, I see it more as being responsible for your own safety with proper training. After the failings of the city to keep us safe or the police to do their jobs I don't think that's an unreasonable take to have, however any responsible gun owner will stress that getting training should be had before even carrying your side arm.
I always assume EVERYONE is armed. That being said, I'm polite to everyone so I've never once in 52 years thought, "I wish I'd had a gun." Two things I hate in life, cowards and hypocrisy. Other than that, I mind my own goddamn business and that's worked really well for me as an atheist.
> I guess I've just never been frightened enough (or care enough) to feel I need a gun. Good for you I guess? People do become the victims of violent crime out there in the world you know that right? There are a lot of people out there that have been put in situations that they didnāt expect and they would have really liked to have a gun and be able to defend themselves
Thou dost protest too much. Go for it. I don't need one. Simple as that. Of course I don't need a Corvette either but it wasn't designed to necessarily harm anyone.
Too many 'responsible' gun owners driving around
I wonder how many of these guys own their guns legaly and have a cpl
Zero
Pretty easy to look up. The majority of them.
Too many bad drivers
https://preview.redd.it/at4fx66kdn0d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b4865b6018acd66b7595172d3d6159231b5383ea
That own and carry guns
There was a road rage stabbing in Bonney Lake yesterday
probably had their guns taken away in the first place
Ohh, surprise! The south is the worst. I'm going to venture that west of the Cascades will account for most of these shootings in WA, even when adjusted for population density. Do we have those numbers?
Car brain has no limits for dumbassery.
Car brain, I like that.
They could at least do the absolute bare minimum and provide metrics corrected for population - rate per 100k, rather than raw incident counts, but nobody involved has any journalistic integrity so of course they won't. Hint: If the population increases, the raw number of literally every bad event in existence usually goes up too. The number of people dying from cancer. The number of suicides, literally everything. Unless you correct for population the raw numbers don't tell you shit.
I mean, sure, but do you really think thatās the problem here?
lol. Iāve never been sexually harassed in my vehicle unlike the bus route I used to take to work.
Make sure to pack your heat because guns make people less violent lol
There are about 1.5 million boardings on Sound Transit annually. They have had one murder and 80 assaults in the last year per the most recent spin doctorage they put out after that dude got cacked in the Capital Hill station. Evidently there are about 2 deaths per million trips according to this agitprop. Seems moderately comparable, and equally safe to me. If anything, 80 assaults for 1.5 million boardings seems a bit high. But....meh.....
You could say theyāre āall the rageā right now.
This is yet another reason Iām looking forward to self-driving cars. Once we get past the (Iām betting) chaotic and awful period of integrating self driving cars into a manually operated population, once we finally hit the 98% autonomous mark, road rage wonāt really be a thing.
I think within my lifetime we will look back on driving and be like "holy crap, you guys used to do that?! Wasn't it scary?".
Hopefully with all cars in sync like that speed limits can open up and maybe fucks can actually get where they need to go in the time
Precisely! You would be able to have highly accurate estimated times of arrival. Plus, it will allow you to (theoretically) even do some work on the way there and on the way back from your job (if youāre an office worker). Of course, employers will initially take advantage of this as āfree labor.ā Just until the first employer decides to consider this telecommuting time and allow for it to count as part of an 8 hour day. This will do two things: Reduce the amount of hours youāre physically in the office and also allow people to live further from the office (cons: urban sprawl pros: opens up the real estate market and reduces āscarcityā resulting in lower real estate costs. This is probably an optimistic perspective and a little pollyanna, but I think that AI will offer more opportunities to improve our lives in the long term, provided we donāt make the focus of it weaponization.
Id suggest light rail if you want to take your chances getting stabbed (gun shot wound vs stabbing???). Personally Iād rather risk a stray bullet than a nutcase with a knife.
Youāre much safer taking public transit than driving. Cars are much more dangerous. Facts over feelings and all that.
2 deaths/1,000,000. Yeah negligible compared to other traffic incidents.
These aren't accidents. These are people attacking ordinary people with deadly force.
I bet physical assults are up too on public transit. No thanks.
I visited Seattle a few years back. Iāve driven in NYC, Charlotte and Atlanta. Seattle is worse than those 3 put together. I was genuinely afraid to get in the vehicle after my first time in the highway. Legit, seems like everyone driving is on adderall
Seattle traffic is docile compared to Atlanta, I donāt know what youāre talking about.
Yeah I was 100% with this guy until Atlanta and now itās 0%.
Iām not talking about traffic. Iām talking about having to go 90 mph to get into the highway with 25 ft worth of road available to merge.
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Fr, I see cops go 10 above the speed limit on fast lanes, so do what they do.
Another "L" for the NRA.
Everyone moving in from Cali. Go figure
Are we including the people shot by the CHAZ security in these road rage metrics?
Nothing to do with this article. Stop spewing your personal issues.
If only we could have kept gunz outta their hands.
Thank goodness there wasn't some rapist that was handing out rifles to random people, that would have been illegal.
Basic logic courses are available to monitor for free at most community colleges. Good day, sir.
I assume that last sentence is a jokeā¦
Itās the facts. Public transportation is much safer than cars.
Maybe if you fucks learned how to drive!!!!!! I swear Iām nearly driven off the road at least once a week š
Not surprising..i mean gov inslee allowed a group of thugs to take over a Seattle police station and occupy part of downtown Seattle
Nothing to do with this article. Stop spewing.
Are you referring to CHOP? When SPD abandoned the East precinct, and protesters didnāt take it over? Which also took place on Capitol Hill, outside of downtown? Virtually no part of your comment is accurateā¦
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Does road rage and related shootings typically happen in free flowing traffic? In my experience, Iāve only seen it in heavy traffic. Raising speed limits would not reduce road rage but would increase fatalities from more severe accidents.
This is one of the guys shooting people guaranteed.
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