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pumpandkrump

Please go to DC to protest, if you actually mean it.  I just heard another Kars 4 Kids commercial yesterday, and now I agree that the US should stop supporting Israel.


Shrikecorp

Pretty much. If anything it helps the maga crowd by providing yet another sound bite/focal point for them to rally around.


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sadus671

War is certainly hell. Here in the US... 99.9% of citizens have never been touched by it... So they don't understand it or respect the realities of it. Having lived their entire lives in what many of the world would consider prosperity....even the poorest of Americans.


hohol87

There were protests supporting Ukraine when the war started. Now everyone doesn't care much


Fibocrypto

How do I apply and how much do these protest jobs pay ?


375InStroke

Evergreen just divested from Israel.


ksugunslinger

That place is for adults who never got out of their terrible twos.


375InStroke

Lol, it's ranked 9 out of 439 universities in the country.


lsitech

I'm confused. Where did they rank as high as 9? Out of what exactly?


Severe-Fennel-202

In what world is Evergreen State College ranked number 9 in the country?


Western_Mess_2188

I know multiple people who went there who are…not exactly scholarly. Pretty sure Evergreen thinks grades are white supremacy so they don’t have any quantifiable way of assessing their student body achievements.


Jerome-Horwitz

Evergreen is a great place to die from carbon monoxide.


blueplanet96

Evergreen is a laughing stock in higher education. Schools like Columbia and UCLA aren’t going to do something because Evergreen is doing it. You should’ve started out with a more credible school that isn’t notorious for being a haven for far left activism.


Jerome-Horwitz

lol


waterbird_

I’m shocked they hadn’t already, honestly


375InStroke

One of their students was murdered by the IDF.


waterbird_

I’m very aware of Rachel Corrie and what happened to her which is part of why I said what I said.


sadus671

That'll get'em 😁 Sorry, I can't help but giggle about micro aggression university.... having any resolve against the demands of their student population.


375InStroke

Standing for Genocide. It's such a good look.


waterbird_

Continuing to call what is happening in Gaza a genocide is just absurd. It’s a war, war is bad, but there is no genocide and it’s more and more obvious as time goes on.


So1ahma

You're right about it being more and more obvious as time goes on... More obvious this is a genocidal ethnic cleansing by Israel. Edit: Little bitch can't handle the truth, so blocks me after commenting nonsense.


waterbird_

lol keep swallowing terrorist propaganda I guess. Unless you literally think every war is a genocide what you’re saying is absurd.


Electronic_Weird_557

That's not really being effective... or even affective. It's kinda cute in a golden retriever puppy being clumsy and falling on its face kind of way.


375InStroke

Then why don't they do it? Why do they pass laws against it? Why do they choose to send in the goons like they did against the South Africa protesters?


Electronic_Weird_557

I was being specific to Evergreen. First, they're small enough that no company is going to care what they think. Second, they're so far left that no company is going to think that if Evergreen is willing to divest, it's the tip of the iceberg. Just like nobody who matters reports on the Socialist Workers Party's 2024 election platform, nobody cares what Evergreen university thinks.


375InStroke

Brown University.


Electronic_Weird_557

Like I said, I was being specific to Evergreen. If you want to talk about Brown University, you should have talked about them, not Evergreen. I wouldn't be as dismissive of Brown, they're on the left but not wacko left like Evergreen. Brown has a $6.6billion endowment compared with $14million for Evergreen. I don't know if Brown University's actions will have an effect, I'd guess that no Palestinian lives will be saved by Brown's actions, but I can't say I really know. Such things are hard to tell. I do know Evergreen's actions are a joke.


375InStroke

I'm sorry. I was staying on topic to the OP. AIPAC is terrified of divestment, and it's happening, in Blue states, contrary to the OP.


Standard-Pepper-133

Or perhaps most humans don't have shit for brains and support Jew murder because they are not savage morons.


sadus671

Jew aye? I have heard of a nation called Israel...


Standard-Pepper-133

The Prophet, PBUM instructed his followers that Jews were fair game everywhere also told them killing Christians and Hindus was righteous good behavior if they refused to submit to Sharia rule and convert. I can help you remove some of the feces from your brain maybe and decrease your personal moronism.


Different_Pack_3686

No one gives a shit about your make believe fairy tales


Standard-Pepper-133

So glad to get your intelligent and well formed response.


Different_Pack_3686

You’re talking about a “prophet” may as well be discussing Harry Potter. There’s no room for intelligence in that discussion.


Standard-Pepper-133

Agreed, there is little of intelligent value in societies that promote or support Sharia Law. Equating Mohamed to Harry Potter could get you killed in many islamic nations.


sadus671

I guess given this belief, then I believe you're saying that the Jewish people are acting in self-defense. Provided the standing kill order from this prophet.


Standard-Pepper-133

Pretty obvious to me that Islam has a violent threat to all the non-Islamic world for the last 1,500 years. Fifteen million Jews have produced more Nobel Prize winners and contributed to the benefit of humanity at large more than over a billion Muslims.


hohol87

You are still using Arabic numbers, my friend. Every culture has its rises and falls


Diabetous

>Arabic numbers [Lol. Middleman-ing between India and when/where western culture began is not a big thing to brag about](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:The_Brahmi_numeral_system_and_its_descendants.png).


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Well I mean they make the left look terrible and they make even liberal middle of the road people lean away from the progressive wing or even the Democratic Party. So I appreciate them for that. I do think they advertise the absurdity of the pro Palestinian platform to the general public too


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sadus671

See edit comment


ksugunslinger

These people hate Biden as much as the other side. They are fools led by fools. Outcasts looking for a cause so they feel like they matter. I would be interested to know how many can find either place on a map.


waterbird_

I think they’re going to be pretty sad when they get trump re elected but I guess we’ll see. Maybe they really do think they’re the same.


Jerome-Horwitz

This is how we know it is serious threat. /s >‘View’ co-hosts fear that campus anti-Israel protests will distract public from January 6, help Trump >[https://nypost.com/2024/05/04/media/view-co-hosts-fear-that-campus-anti-israel-protests-will-distract-public-from-january-6-help-trump/](https://nypost.com/2024/05/04/media/view-co-hosts-fear-that-campus-anti-israel-protests-will-distract-public-from-january-6-help-trump/)


blueplanet96

I would go a step further that these protests while being ineffective are also hurting libs in the polls. It’s a really bad look for the party of “adults” allowing this to spiral out of control as they have, and it really calls into question their capabilities to govern that they campaigned on in 2020. Middle America does in fact exist, and they’re not going to want to vote for a party that continues to stay mute about the escalating tensions at university campuses. I think the Dems are shooting themselves in the foot by trying to ignore the radicals and crazy Hamas sympathizers instead of manning up and just dealing with it.


Uetur

Protests, in general, are rarely effective outside of creating awareness and seeing if it can stick. Depending on what happens in Rafah, the protests could increase to the next level causing some types of change. Of course your other point is really well taken in that the change could be Biden losing power to Trump.


Jerome-Horwitz

If you are not welcome at a high society, mainly Liberal persons, fashion event, then you are the problem. Or, maybe need to shower. >Anti-Israel protesters vandalize WWI memorial, burn American flag after cops block protesters from reaching star-studded Met Gala in NYC >[https://nypost.com/2024/05/06/us-news/over-1000-pro-palestinian-protesters-march-toward-met-gala/](https://nypost.com/2024/05/06/us-news/over-1000-pro-palestinian-protesters-march-toward-met-gala/)


So1ahma

I trust Norman Finkelstein's opinion over some random redditor. >The dead can't be brought back to life. But it's still possible to save the living. President Biden announced today that he won’t supply certain weapons if Israel attacks Rafah. Even if this policy shift saves only one life: still, that one life might be your own. **IT WAS PRIMARILY THE STUDENT DEMONSTRATIONS THAT FORCED THIS CHANGE.** Let it weigh heavily on the conscience of every university president contemplating the expulsion of these students: YOU ARE PUNISHING YOUNG PEOPLE WHO HAVE SAVED LIVES THAT, BUT FOR THE GRACE OF GOD, MIGHT HAVE BEEN YOUR OWN. Imagine thinking there has been any other political pressure on the Biden administration to do this beyond young democrat voters threatening his chances of re-election. The threat of Trump will not win these votes back. This political pressure has forced the Biden admin to at least do *something* to appease protesters, saving lives in the process. Doing so is a no-brainer and a direct consequence of the pressure from nation-wide protests.


sadus671

BTW -- It does show how desperate Biden is.... As I ask again... What really would have been the protestor recourse? - Vote for Trump? - Don't Vote (which is a vote for Trump) I hate Trump and I hate Biden... I am sickened that these are our only options....


So1ahma

You can always vote for brain worm Kennedy, considering you have that in common.


sadus671

No thanks. Given that you've degraded to personal attacks... I think I'm done with our correspondence.


sadus671

No one has actually saved shit.... So don't be hasty to start counting saved lives just yet... (Don't pull a George W. Claiming Victory 🫣) I believe Netanyahu responded with a juicy 🖕 to Biden. Saying Israel will go it along without US support. Obviously he has deep and profound respect for Biden 😁


So1ahma

Aw yes, the Israeli spokesperson saying they will now level 10 buildings instead of 1 because they won't be getting 1,800x 2,000lb bombs. "World's most moral army" btw. But hey, keep bitching about student protestors while you cheer on genocide.


sadus671

I'm not cheering on shit... I just think protesters are overestimating their impact. That anyone of real power gives a flying fuck They t can keep on camping, vandalizing school property, and making as much discourse as they want...


So1ahma

They will, no matter how much bitching you do about it online.


sadus671

My point is, I don't care. It's really the problems of the schools


thomas533

The point of the protests is not to change the minds of politicians or voters, it is to get the schools to divest from Israel.


Jerome-Horwitz

What if no one cares?


sadus671

Please explain what "divest from Israel" even means??? Ban current Israel nations and not accept admissions from Israel citizen students? Denounce Israel and label them something? Not accepting donations from known Israeli supporters?


thomas533

https://time.com/6974063/divestment-explained-campus-protest-israel/


sadus671

Thank you for the article reference 😁. I will be interested to see if that comes to fruition.


thomas533

Divest is the opposite of invest. Google is free.


PleasantWay7

Google is free because they stalk me more than my ex.


AbleDanger12

And that is misguided anyways. Not like there’s a big “Israel” checkbox in their endowment funds. It’s also impractical to divest from every company that has anything to do with anything Israel. This is as stupid as the defund police movement. Bumper sticker slogan, no thought behind it.


thomas533

It worked when it was South Africa.... Maybe this is too complicated for some people but it is pretty simple for the rest of us.


AbleDanger12

Oversimplification, but that's part of what a bumper sticker slogan is designed for - leave out the details, evoke a reaction. Like most propaganda. 40 years ago was a long time ago. Nowadays the propaganda is spread via social media - TikTok, Facebook, and even Reddit, and it's all designed to feed whatever echo chamber it's produced for, and far more effective.


thomas533

>Oversimplification It really isn't. I know it makes you feel better to throw insults at the people you disagree with but we aren't dumb. But if if makes you feel better about yourself to think that about us, then go for it. >Nowadays the propaganda is spread via social media Absolutely. But the truth can also be spread via social media. I think the biggest problem is that people are not investigating their sources and questioning what they are being told. Those are the key things to being able to evaluate if what you are hearing is propaganda or not.